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Audition excerpts: Contrabass/Bass trombone comparison of "Das Rheingold", by Richard Wagner 

Christian Jones Bass trombone
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Part of my series of the most common orchestral/opera excerpts requested for auditions. Filmed in Opera North's Howard Assembly Room (Leeds, UK) these videos have been created as a study aid for my students at the Royal Northern College of Music (Manchester, UK), but I am happy for them to be shared with anyone who finds them useful.

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@EK6O3O
@EK6O3O 3 года назад
This is a really nice comparison of the contra vs the bass, I don't know about the comment below the difference was day and night to me. The contra has much more power, depth and presence and I can see the cumulative power when this excerpt is played within the low brass section! The bass trombone suddenly sounds more like a tenor now haha
@ChristianJonesBasstrombone
@ChristianJonesBasstrombone 2 года назад
Thanks Eric: it does make a big difference to the section sound!
@jahi5
@jahi5 3 года назад
WOW AMAZING, there definitely is a difference in the two. Love your sound !
@ChristianJonesBasstrombone
@ChristianJonesBasstrombone 2 года назад
Thanks Jahi!
@OMurchadha
@OMurchadha Год назад
Thanks for your excellent playing. I'm a woodwind player but also a conductor and "low brass enthusiast", and I so enjoy both of these horns. Here, they sound more similar than I thought they would, but not much more. The contra sounds like what it is: a bigger horn; one more tiny step in the direction of a tuba, acoustically. But your bass playing sounds likewise so "large", that in a large space the clarity that the bass offers might be preferred. I have a feeling however, that what I'm missing, even with headphones, is the resonance. Just through headphones, the contra almost sounds like it has its own quiet tuba accompaniment; it's fun to imagine how huge this would be in person. Again, great playing; a real pleasure.
@perecptions1772
@perecptions1772 Год назад
🤓
@ChristianJonesBasstrombone
@ChristianJonesBasstrombone Год назад
Thanks for your message Philip and I'm glad you enjoyed the video! It's so difficult to appreciate the differences of timbre in most musical situations, so it's been my pleasure to illustrate them directly in the same acoustic! Thanks again & I hope you enjoy the rest of the series too :)
@ninjettifire
@ninjettifire Год назад
As a composer scoring with both instruments in mind, I am grateful for the existence of these videos. Thank you, sir for providing them. This showcases the differences in timbre between the two instruments.
@ChristianJonesBasstrombone
@ChristianJonesBasstrombone Год назад
Thank you for your kind comments - and do let me know if you write any solos for us on either instrument! :)
@ninjettifire
@ninjettifire Год назад
@@ChristianJonesBasstrombone You’re welcome. I will. Right now, I’m composing an opera but exploring these instruments through solo pieces sounds fun. Let’s connect on Facebook.
@ninjettifire
@ninjettifire Год назад
@@ChristianJonesBasstrombone You’re welcome. I am composing an opera, so I don’t see myself composing a solo for instruments. However, I may do that as an experiment. What’s the best way to contact you?
@ChristianJonesBasstrombone
@ChristianJonesBasstrombone Год назад
@@ninjettifire thank you for your message & my email is cjbassbone@me.com (Happy New Year too!)
@reecemirkes5745
@reecemirkes5745 8 месяцев назад
3:57
@ChristianJonesBasstrombone
@ChristianJonesBasstrombone 8 месяцев назад
I like that bit too ;)
@bobboscarato1313
@bobboscarato1313 Год назад
The width of the slide in the trombone seems to be same as a tenor trombone; my bass trombone's slide is wider than my tenor!
@ChristianJonesBasstrombone
@ChristianJonesBasstrombone Год назад
It depends on the make and model: some players really prefer a 'wide slide' while others hate it! :)
@bobboscarato1313
@bobboscarato1313 Год назад
@@ChristianJonesBasstrombone Crazy!
@bobboscarato1313
@bobboscarato1313 Год назад
@@ChristianJonesBasstrombone Trombone players are never happy! lol
@devinspaulding107
@devinspaulding107 Год назад
what version of this piece is this, because on my score i believe the 7th and 8th to last bar is different. I completely like whatever you played much better
@ChristianJonesBasstrombone
@ChristianJonesBasstrombone Год назад
Thanks for your message: I copy the notes from the tuba part, so here I play a dotted 8th (quaver) pedal F to a 16th (semiquaver) pedal Gb which isn't officially in the contra part...?
@jamesmorris1657
@jamesmorris1657 3 года назад
What Wagnerians watch when bored😁
@ChristianJonesBasstrombone
@ChristianJonesBasstrombone 2 года назад
Hopefully not too bored ;)
@jamesmorris1657
@jamesmorris1657 2 года назад
@@ChristianJonesBasstrombone Sorry as that wasn’t the right word at all. I actually find these solo videos very interesting. I think I was trying to be funny 😬
@ChristianJonesBasstrombone
@ChristianJonesBasstrombone 2 года назад
@@jamesmorris1657 no worries! :)
@zaydenm
@zaydenm Год назад
3:08
@ChristianJonesBasstrombone
@ChristianJonesBasstrombone Год назад
I like that bit too! :)
@montagne8820
@montagne8820 3 года назад
Thein contrabass and shires bass trombone..?
@ChristianJonesBasstrombone
@ChristianJonesBasstrombone 3 года назад
Thein contra, then Conn 62HI bass :)
@montagne8820
@montagne8820 3 года назад
@@ChristianJonesBasstrombone sound terrific on both! I'd love to try out a contra someday ;P
@ChristianJonesBasstrombone
@ChristianJonesBasstrombone 3 года назад
@@montagne8820 thank you - and I hope you can try one sometime because it's great fun :)
@montagne8820
@montagne8820 2 года назад
@@ChristianJonesBasstrombone Not sure if you are still checking comments on this thread Mr. Jones, but getting a contra has been something I’ve wanted for ~2 years now. Been playing tenor for ~8 years. Now that I’m getting closer to actually being able to acquire one, (Wessex, not Thein haha) I was wondering what month piece you use for the contra? I currently use a Greg Black 4.5G-5G on my shires tenor. I saw Greg black does offer one model for contra and was wondering if you have any advice? Any other advice on beginner contra playing/ choosing a contra is also appreciated!
@ChristianJonesBasstrombone
@ChristianJonesBasstrombone 2 года назад
@@montagne8820 yes I'm still here! Thank you for your comment, but I am a little confused because nearly everybody moves to the contrabass trombone from the bass trombone, rather than the tenor? I play a Bach 2G mouthpiece on my bass, moving to a Rath CB2 mouthpiece for the contrabass trombone: both are considered quite small by international standards, but they work well for me. I don't know about the Greg Black contra mouthpiece, but you are welcome to send me any further details & questions to cjbassbone@me.com if you like? Best wishes, Christian
@brassbones
@brassbones 5 лет назад
Seems like a lot of money and effort for little difference aurally? Obviously the contra looks good, but do audiences look?
@ChristianJonesBasstrombone
@ChristianJonesBasstrombone 4 года назад
Dr. JPW during the Ring the difference really comes across when it’s played in a full section, as the contrabass frequently adds a tuba-like timbre at the bottom of chorales not otherwise using the tuba
@leader_big_shiee
@leader_big_shiee 5 лет назад
1st!
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