Austin Desanto vs Vito Arujau | 61kg 2023 US Open Final 

Good point. Both were pretty respectful of each other, and Desanto has definitely come a long way from the antics he pulled during his earlier years in college

@@brendan638everyone always bashed Desanto. Drexel never even tried to control his antics. Everyone who doesn’t like Iowa just chalked him up to a dirty wrestler, while everyone at Iowa could see the progression throughout the years.

Ikr

@@Thatthar899 like??

Austin has always been a bit of a punk I think. Kinda funny watching him get teched in 30 seconds

he seems to realize that on this stage of wrestling its unacceptable, in college i'd say you can be an ass and get away with it. but not at the world level.

He is out. Dude, he is not in the top 5, for sure, of his class. Not even close. He is a really good 2nd tier, at this level. But he cannot pull through for a world team level. He just is not that good.

Wait for him to win or lose before conclusions.

I am against the leg lace beyond two turns. Most other moves require the hold to be reset. You can't just put a half-nelson in and rock the opponent 4 times. It is not as exciting as a throw and should not be a match ending technique, almost on par with a pin.

vhw baby

@@lilrewb4646 eyyyyy. Nassau Community College here.

@@mentalfloss46 i was on the team too in 2019-2020. literally was wearing the shirt today

@@lilrewb4646 i probably know you lol. Well if if was the season of when covid happened.

@@mentalfloss46 it was I’m josh rubin idk if you remember that name

Can you please SHUT UP. Like you mfs always feel the need to say something that’s gon jinx it. Like just let the man wrestle and prove himself 🤦🏽‍♂️. Like y’all doing this to yallselves at this point. First Spencer, then RBY, now what Vito? Just chill tf out and let the man chase his damn dream without being put to a ridiculous pedestal.

That’s a bold statement

not to mention he got beat by latona a few months ago.

@@BarefootMediaTV he proceeded to then pound Latona at NCAAs if I recall. Your point?

@@xzjayz7925 no the rematch was kind of close too. And when theoretically talking about who is pound for pound the best, you have to discuss recent losses. duh

It is freestyle once back is exposed you get 2 so since he kept rollling he kept getting two

No kidding

in freestyle u get two points for exposing the opponents back to the mat. and vito just rolled him on his back over and over so he got two points every time

10 points he won by tech fall.

He spun him out with a corkscrew.

Agreed

It's freestyle not folkstyle so there's no nearfalls, just 2 points each time you expose but yeah the rules are a bit whacky

What? This is freestyle there is no nearfall

The point to this technique is control and dominance. If you don't want to get turned by your opponent, then stop him from initiating the lace. If you can't stop your opponent from initiating the lace, then you are not in control... you are being controlled and thus dominated by your opponent.

I Don't Care It is BORING.

@@imacarrot6570 Completely dominating your opponent and ending the match early is NOT boring, but if you're an immature child it is.

Agreed

I can agree with dominance but if you look at the way it is locked with ankle anatomy and also having shoes on, its hard to justify that it is completely dominating. Freestyle should be done without shoes on and allowing for more more slip. Upper body handling is justified because the shoulder has three planes of motion and is much harder to torque if people are flexible and they don't have boxing gloves on. The ankle is pretty much one plane of motion as eversion and inversion only account for around 45 degrees of total flexibility. If you add a shoe in the mix and cross the legs, it's like putting a padlock on it. Rolling them repeatedly, as far as exertion on the body, once it is locked is negligible. Take the shoes off and we are talking a different story.

that match was like 50 seconds long bro

😂😂😂 Magomedov A. From Russia🇷🇺, declassified him.

@@tuttam8744 yea I got hyped, still think he can pull it off though. He’s still young!

​@@tuttam8744 Vito world champion🇺🇲☝️

@@pechenegs judge👨‍⚖️ world champion

Nah, couldn't have happened to a better guy

Only better thing that could have happened was Vito throwing DeSanto straight to his back and pinning him.

@@cdrtej Desanto has not been cocky since 2019. Stop bringing up things that happened 4 years ago

@@KK-wj4gz Vito would have to do that real quick .because if Desanto knows he's about to get pinned ,He will scream out in agony at the top of his lungs .....and ref will stop it ...He pulled that trick twice against RBY at the Iowa -Penn St. dual .when RBY locked up cradles on him

Only did some freestyle, but when I did it was explained by "exposing" the back. So say you have the back exposed in a "dominant" position (back faces the Mat) that's points for you.

exposing someone’s back is worth 2 points. doing it repeatedly is worth 2pts per exposure. 10 points is a win by technical superiority, so he won after exposing his back 4 times

Because it's a hard technique to do and You're exposing their back to the mat. Every time your opponent's back is to the mat it's two points.

The ole rollie pollie

Ahhhh thank yall! Been confused on that for a while but makes sense😆

Yes

Rules are rules

@@JesseStevenTrumm3992 rules change as often as the seasons in this sport. I think that one needs to happen.

I'm gonna keep posting this... Wrestling shoes and taped ankles are a huge disadvantage to escaping an ankle lock freestyle roll. In folkstyle, you can only hang on to someone's ankles for a few seconds until you get called for stalling. Freestyle should be done without shoes on and allowing for more slip. It would add an exponential amount of grip required. I don't care how tough you are, the way your heel is shaped and adding something as grippy as a wrestling shoe, you aren't getting away. Upper body handling is justified because the shoulder has three planes of motion and is much harder to torque if people are flexible and they also don't have an anchor such as a boxing glove on their hands. You don't see many wrestlers taping their upper bodies because they know it makes hand control that much easier from neutral. The ankle is pretty much one plane of motion as eversion and inversion only account for around 45 degrees of total flexibility. If you add a shoe in the mix and cross the legs, it's like putting a padlock on it. Rolling them repeatedly, as far as exertion on the body, is negligible once you have it locked. Take the shoes off and we are talking a different story.

@@Yinzer808 Or shoes that can pop off? LOL

The tape is optional. They can wear shoes where the laces are tucked or they can tape the laces in a way that does not wrap around the foot. Also, they aren't "ankle locks" it's called a "leg-lace" and it has been a part of freestyle wrestling since freestyle wrestling was freestyle wrestling. In the past the rules were different and you could not just continue the leg-lace until you tech falled your opponent, you would only get 2 points for the first turn, then you'd get 1 point or no points for the second depending on the year, since both rules existed at different times. Then if you released the leg-lace and re-secured a new leg-lace and turned your opponent, you'd get 2 points for another turn. That was then changed back to the old rules, which are the rules that are currently in place, where you can just keep the original leg-lace and keep turning your opponent until you tech fall them. They made this change because it makes matches more exciting and it raises the stakes. The message to the wrestlers is : "Be aggressive and get the leg-lace first, that way you can win. Or don't and you can lose. Be aggressive." The problem at the higher levels of freestyle and greco is a lack of action and scoring. All high level wrestlers are really good at defense and stalling. They are also very explosive, which means they can stall out periods, wait until the final seconds to try and score to win, and hopefully steal matches where they did very little. That may be effective, but it's boring to watch. Fans hate watching those matches. How do you incentivize wrestlers to constantly attack? You reward them for scoring. You penalize wrestlers for being passive. Which is why the push-out, shot clock, and criteria rules are a nice addition to the sport. More ways to to incentivize attacks: you lower the tech fall score requirement, you make scoring easier, you give more points to wrestlers for performing high amplitude moves, and you allow wrestlers to score multiple times using the same lock, lace, pinch, or hold. All of these measures speed up matches and encourage aggression and action from both wrestlers. We have tried it pretty much every way you can, this current scoring system is the most exciting and entertaining iteration of the sport I have seen in my lifetime. There is one exception, there was a brief time in Greco/freestyle wrestling history when there was a yellow dot in the center of the mat and if you performed a 5 point throw, landing your opponent on the yellow dot, you got double the points, making it a 10 point throw. That rule only lasted for a year or two back in the 1980s or 1990s. You should be thankful for these new rules in freestyle and Greco. The old boring 1-1 or 0-0 matches that lasted 15-20 minutes with two guys circling each other or just leaning on each other with identical over-under front body locks are dead and gone. Kurt Angle won his gold medal by a judges panel deciding the match. Three judges watched the match and if after OT there was still a tie, they put it to a vote to decide who won the matches. Trust me, these new rules are much better than anything international wrestling has ever had. Barefoot wrestling would cause a bunch of sliding and make throwing people less safe. Once the feet got wet, traction would be non-existent. Slipping and sliding feet makes it quite difficult to wrestle effectively, hence the wrestling shoes.

@@chade1983 Ankle moves are a big part of BJJ and MMA fighting and nobody wears shoes because you can't slip out of holds. I slip around more with shoes on a mat with sweat on it versus no shoes so that argument doesn't win. Shoes stop mat burn when you take shots but they aren't less slippery.

@chade1963 best comment ever for explanation bro!!!

Thank you for the explanations and some details of the scoring aystems of the past and present. The appreciation for the sport that you have is expressed very well in your comment. Thank you for sharing.

If you’ve ever competed in Bjj then you would understand wrestling shoes don’t make it more slippery, the opposite is true. I wrestle my whole life through college and was an all American. I also compete in Bjj and like a previous comment stated, shoes only protect you from mat burn. I like the idea of no shoes for wrestling bc it makes it more like ancient times where they had to compete completely naked, but let’s not take it that far

That’d be crazy for the sport. Don’t think it’s gunna happen tho

Why? Folkstyle is better for a transition into MMA. Also nobody wants to see leg laces when they can watch an actual top and bottom game play out.

@@nicklasleschinger3172 a bunch of Dagestan wrestlers would probably disagree. The rest of the world does fine with it. But most importantly folk style wrestlers have to transition to freestyle which is sub optimal always. If you think about it Greco, free style and folk style are styles of their own. Its harder to transition.

NO!!!!! Do not change folkstyle. Do NOT ruin the top position for all time so that nobody ever gets to watch anything but belly flopping and looking for a whistle. SO BORING!!

Nah folkstyle is better for an actual fight u cant get rid of it