Austrian Armour at the Heeresgeschichtliches Museum, Part 2 

Franz was such a nice host and interviewee. I would love to hear the both of you talk more in-depth stuff about the various vehicles there as well as Austrian tactics in later videos :)

I had a brainfart listening to the fuel efficiency numbers - heard 1100 litres for 100 km on road and thought - that can't be that bad, that's an efficiency of 11km per liter.... Brain then went wait, it's actually 100 METERS per liter!

Regardless/in-spite of any audio hiccups overall is excellent and extremely well done. Very informative and genuinely interesting to get the Austrian perspective. Also, he was a great choice for the over-view/discussion (may have been the only option, but either way he did a great job and was obviously/understandably very knowledgeable). Keep up the good work and look forward, as always, to what comes next.

The Leopard vs M60 comparison was cool, not many have the experience to really make that sort of comparison and you rarely get to see them side by side like that. The video comparison from the commander's hatch shows just how remarkable the difference is. Do you think you'll ever do an Inside the Hatch, or maybe just a short video, on the M728 CVE with the weird 168mm demolition gun? It's got all sorts of odd stuff on it and I'd be interested in what changes were made on the inside to accommodate it's unique task.

American tankers. This machinegun is to fiddly Austrian tankers. Oo this machinegun has a lot of fiddly parts. Love it

The Curator is excellent. He really is enjoyable to listen to. You can tell him that.

Putting the logo of a brewery on the tanks is one of the most austrian things ever.

Having more than a modicum of trigger time on the Mg74, the Mg3 and the Mg42, the Austrian version (barring the absurd Swiss Mg51) is the " '42 done right". The '74 just drips quality, and is genuinely a joy to fire and work on.

Amazing historical insight. I’ve been to Austria many times but never had the time to visit the museum. Thank you, sir, for a subject matter experts guide to their collection

His comments about comfort & firing on the move on the M60A1/A3 are spot on. There was a sweet spot on speed for track vibration.

Really love these museum tours. Thank you.

Franz is great. I really like this museum and I hope to see more. Thank you Chieftain!

Very well done Franz! Keep up your good work!

Thank you again Nicholas and Franz. Part two is just as enlightening and entertaining as part one.

The m85 has a bad reputation in the US Army because they were used after their service life should have been ended and they were old and worn out. Our Battalion Commander threatened to court-martial my company armorer for taking a chisel to the rivets on our m85s. but after the new guns arrived and the performance was so much better He changed his mind.

So if missiles were forbidden, were air defense fighters gun armed only until 1989?

Arnold has his own tank.. ok, NEVER argue with the governator over parking...

what a great choice of Mr. Brodl for this conversation, Thanks.

I caught the insider video with 7m views! Very good.

Great video

👍👍 Nice to see you visit the most interesting museum in my home town

It would be very nice to see the Chieftain at Austrian Tankfest 2023 :)

Have you already done a side by side with an East German (or other former WP) tanker re T-72 vs Leo 2; or for that matter BMP type vs Marder ? Sorry if I've missed it. Now that Covid has dialed back so has my available screen time.

From what I have heared (Total Recall audiobook), Arnie drove 1 tank through a wall of a garage in base and 1 he drowned, with barrel stuck in mud and full of it. From what he wrote the army was quite happy to get rid of him.

Could we get a more detailed video on the Jaguar missile tank destroyer? Always been a favorite of mine and I'd love to see more of it through either this museum or another! Also your Franz Brodl was a really enjoyable host and I think many people would love to see him again!

Some parts of Austria have shooting culture. The military units from the 18th century and earlier often still exist as traditional shooting clubs in Tyrol there and commemorate the Tyrolean rebellion of 1809 against Napoleon to name one example. It is more prominent there than in the rest of Austria.

The service idea is very interesting. Canada should adopt it.

One of you best presentations. I had the feeling that you where in the company of a pier for whom you had respect. Good thing he is "neutral" huh.

Once more unto the breech dear friends. ^~^

the M60 is like the new version of an M4. such a versatile and adaptable vehicle

Isn't this the Raketenjagdpanzer 2 from warthunder ? Upgraded with the composite armour.

26;:38 ... floormats look more pristine than I knew them in 1985 .... tossed them out and was sweeping the deck ... launched a broomful of Nebraska/Wyoming into General Westly B. Tlusustos' face ... his handlers wanted to hang me and everyone in the vicinity (Me and my Section Chief, SSG Dean Bull Riding Berens, but to his credit, he apologized to me to "wandering into my line of fire" ...

I'm wondering which brewery it could have been at that time...Budvar? Prazdroj?

Very interesting

Since you and Ian were here at the same time recently… can we expect a tour of Fort IX Czerniakowski soon?

Sadly the audio "malf" makes it a little hard to hear Mr. Brodls opinion of conscripts serving under his command. I think many people of countries without conscription have the misconception that conscripts equal incompetence or vast inferiority to professional soldiers. The biggest difference imo is payment and that conscripts (in peacetime) stop doing the same thing earlier. (not before being "ready to use" but shortly after) Sure you can get conscripts that are uninterested or stupid, but so you can with professionals. Little personal example of comparisson between conscripts and professional soldiers: After infantery training i was trained in AAA, and with us were soon to be (AAA) officers doing the AAA training (not as our instructors but getting their training refreshed for the second or 3rd time). After a little time, they suggested a competition of setting up the AA gun from transport to ready, "to see who is faster". (Our "conscripts team consisted of 1 electronics engineer, 1 future geography teacher and i have no clue what our 3rd guy went on to become.) As "trained professionals" they were confident to beat us, but they did not. To their little embarressment we beat them by quite some time. (They weren't beating us in live shooting either...)

Very interesting!

F, poor audio, such a troubled life :P

What happened to the audio?

Did you ask him about the Steyr and Kerrygold? Like the US tanks for a dollar

The 155mm m109 round weights over 45kg, I had to look up something comparable.

Greetings

F. Great video regardless!

F for the audio

Well as he mentioned Greece had M60 and Leo 1, italy did too, but then went from Leo 1 to Ariete which is homebuilt, Turkey and brazil use both M60 and Leo 1 to this day or at least as recently as anybody bothered to update. Portugal and Spain went from M60 to Leo 2 Germany and Norway jumped the M60 and went from M47+48 to Leo 1 and on to Leo 2. Belgium from M47 to Leo 1, planning to now only use Mowag Piranha IIIs as their combat support.

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Green Rhino, Black Bison? Is this GuP?

Dear Sir, please throw away this faulty audio recording equipment. It's really hard to understand what Austrian gentlemen is talking about in second half. Especial for people that English is not their primary language. There are build in Subtitles, with helps, but not resolve primary issue. Anyway, Thank You for review and have a nice day mate !

Booo! I held on for Artillery I got that and ... and you hid some shit at 20:35 ....

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You should try to get an interview with Arnold Schwazenegger and talk about tanks.

"I had the misfortune to set my turret on fire twice." He said. "You have so much room in the turret you can cook your meals on a stove." He said. No shit Sherlock! 🤣

Its very interesting and entertaining watching two tankers from different countries talking about tanks and the history of the Austrian tank force.

My jaw dropped a bit (along with Nick's apparently) when he mentioned that the M85 was popular with Austrian tankers--but then, I didn't know Austria was a long-time user of M60s.

Please tell me that there’s a video coming up on the Leopard 2A4….

🥇All we can do here is to dream, in ever having such machinery. Thanks again and keep up the excellent, inspiring work.🥇

From now on, "OH Mr. Brodl, the tank is on fire" 😁

This is my visit tomorrow morning...

The M60A1 was also my first love. When I was stationed in Germany the tanks had a full combat load of main gun ammo and we went on maneuvers up loaded.

He's a fantastic and very likable guest. Wealth of value to have him.

Hope you enjoyed your trip and visit to vienna! Thank you for showing the world one of the coolest museums of Vienna!

Personally I would really enjoy to see a video more focusing on science fiction, perhaps an analysis of a battle or doctrine from a sci-fi universe you enjoy or consider realistic. Or potentially a comparison between sci fi weapon payloads, their real life inspiration and any practical issues you could imagine with said weapon system or details you feel the creators may have overlooked, and this is just a small snippet of what's possible as I'm sure many other would enjoy hearing your grounded, experienced opinion regarding this subject matter.

This gun you do everything exactly right it works well it is a wonderful gun. It sounded very German.

1972 - Austrian Army obtained M109 SP howitzers. April 1973 2nd Squadron 2nd ACR received six replacement M109A1 SP howitzers in VII Army camouflage to replace its six OD M109. US VII Army adopted a four color scheme at that time for its vehicles prior to the US Army adopting a different four color scheme and before adopting the German four color scheme. A discussion of Western Europe camouflage schemes may be of interest.

By the way, the sponson storage boxes on an M-60 are a good place to sleep in....

WOW. That's cool. I thought dual charge AT weapons were a much more modern creation. Not to mention an auto-loading missile launcher. Edit: Not sure why I noticed, but man, Mr Brodl has some nice shoes.

"You can cook in the turret" aha! That would explain the 2 turret fires 🔥 😆

The marking on the Priest is the logo of the Bass Brewery.

Sadly no one seems to have a Jaguar with the upgraded night sight in a museum. That thing is big but interesting

My first unit in the US army was 1/10th Cavalry, 4th ID. our unit emblem was the buffalo (AKA bison) I find it interesting that an Austrian actually 2 had similar icons

OMG audio problems UNSUBSCRIBED 😉

To be fair I also would purchase M47s for $1.

Is there an artillery version of the chieftain?

Der Panzerraum - It is a Raum full of Panzers. German is such a beautiful language

Leave it to the Austrians to having them look brand new on the inside.Too bad you didn`t peek in each one briefly.

I think a replacement or rather a supplement for the Leo's in Austria could be the Japanese Type 10 (yes they are willing to export it). It is a very light, manouverable and small MBT which would do very well in the mountains. It basically has the same firepower as most Nato tanks with an high pressure (like the M256A1) 120mm and an autoloader up to under 4s reload time. It could fit the roles the Kürrasier filled back in the day.

Unrelated question but Why do modern tanks don't need Radio operators anymore?

great video

Very nice video. Note: You really should improve on your sound recording equipment.

Panzers ?

Interesting and informative couple of videos on a subject I was not familiar with, thanks for posting. I applied 'closed captions' which mostly compensated for the sound quality.

Good video. The audio could be better as Franz was a bit hard to hear, but I raised my volume whenever he spoke. Pretty sure you realized that after the fact. I suspect in regards to the question about the 50 caliber raised in part 1, the long effective range was useful in the mountainous parts of Austria. Certainly, sustained volume of fire is not a strong point for that weapon when compared to a rifle caliber weapon, as the Brits pointed out, and it is a bit weak and slow firing for modern AA work.

You had to have something I call "mechanical empathy". Like you can tell an old school driver. They auto wince when they dont get a gear. But in the old days it was "if you cant find it, grind it " lol. The pitch of the engine ANY new rattles or clanks make a look of panic instant go on your face haha. love these museum vids and getting a chat with the guy there was great too. Thanks Chief.

What I could hear was fascinating. Unfortunately my old ears couldn't make out chunks of it.

Great content despite the audio issues. Thanks for sharing!

Fascinating. Thanks for publicising this place.

I'm impressed by the M109.

What the hell i just was there yesterday

Plus one for the m60a3s..

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Ah. The Leo2A4. I loved that beauty. Not the insides, though. Holy hell.

DIDENT KNOW THEY WERENT THAT NUTURAL .

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I like to think that Austria is much like Finland, with it's fairly small population, all sorts of own original things (like weapons) and neutrality even we both could fairly well be 'part of the west'. But now I might start to think otherwise because our (finns) neutrality-virginity is lost due to stupid and political nato joining our government decided to do.