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Automatic! 3D Printed Outer Mold for pouring Plaster for Slip Casting 

Pottery by Kent
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In this video, I extend my software so that in addition to creating a mold form from a profile sketch, it also creates an outer mold for plaster that can be 3d printed. This creates a much slimmer, lighter plaster mold for slip casting. This is part of my deep dive on mold making for slip casting.
If you're interested in trying out the software, sign up here shapecastmolds.com/

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14 июл 2023

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@theabristlebroom4378
@theabristlebroom4378 Год назад
Really nice work, Kent!
@PotterybyKent
@PotterybyKent Год назад
Thanks a lot!
@amania9254
@amania9254 Год назад
Very good progress 👏 👌 Thanks for sharing 👍
@PotterybyKent
@PotterybyKent Год назад
Thanks!
@rickbates9232
@rickbates9232 Год назад
Really nice work, thought and experimentation ... just getting better and better. Maybe add a large central pull handle for the centre mold as well as some channels for the outer mold that are sealed with wax at the bottom to stop the plaster leaking up but that when you blow with compressed air it blows the wax out and you get an air all the way down to the bottom to build pressure for an easier release for the outer as well. You could also build the centre mold from 2 parts and join them with the wax so that they are also eaiser to remove. All some random ideas to try and play with.
@PotterybyKent
@PotterybyKent Год назад
Thanks for the ideas! The channel sealed with wax is a really interesting idea. I also wonder if that might work on the inner mold. Splitting the outer one is pretty straightforward (the seam there doesn't matter) but having a seam on the inner mold is a bit less than idea.
@Bob-Is-A-PotterNow
@Bob-Is-A-PotterNow Год назад
Great video! My "lazy" approach for such joints is blue painter's tape. It's worked well over the last couple of years.
@PotterybyKent
@PotterybyKent Год назад
The foil tape really works well. But it is also kind of annoying. I work that the tack on blue tape might not be strong enough to hold back the plaster especially if there is a small leak??
@Bob-Is-A-PotterNow
@Bob-Is-A-PotterNow Год назад
@@PotterybyKent I typically use some type of burnishing tool (thumb nail ) and the 2-inch wide tape. The adhesive seems to like PLA. So far no plaster disasters...
@PotterybyKent
@PotterybyKent Год назад
Good to know!
@melristau
@melristau 9 месяцев назад
Thanks!
@PotterybyKent
@PotterybyKent 9 месяцев назад
No problem! It's specially formulated for ceramics so the best option if you can get it
@pichapple
@pichapple Год назад
Awesome work. For the adhesive, I use a gorilla glue stick and glue gun which helps with speed and accuracy. Then using a pipette and squirting a little denatured alcohol onto the glue releases it easily. Not sure why that works, but it’s great for sealing and releasing molds (I usually work with silicone rubber so I look for an water proof seal). All available from hardware store too, which makes it convenient!
@PotterybyKent
@PotterybyKent Год назад
Thanks! I'll need to try the alcohol trick and see if that might work for me.
@KeryuOkami
@KeryuOkami Год назад
I really love Seeing people mix traditional and modern mediums to streamline and push what's possible in these kinds of applications. I have a project I am currently trying to mixed 3D printing and slip casting as well. If you'd be willing, may I email you to pick your brain and get your opinion on a few things? Much appreciated, and keep the vids coming, these are so helpful!
@PotterybyKent
@PotterybyKent Год назад
Thanks! Sure thing - feel free to reach out.
@KeryuOkami
@KeryuOkami Год назад
@@PotterybyKent Sorry, I don't know where to find your email address 😅
@Bob-Is-A-PotterNow
@Bob-Is-A-PotterNow Год назад
I've been printing very hi res (0.07mm and 0.05mm) PLA, using liquid soap as a mold release (coat, let dry, repeat a couple of times), and the results have been very pleasing. At that resolution the PLA needs little to no post processing. Downside is very long print times (I've had prints take up to 8 DAYS). But if your setup is reliable and tuned, intermediate silicone castings can be bypassed. Mostly printing mugs, tumblers and vases for slip casting with B-Mix ^5-6 clays.
@sealpiercing8476
@sealpiercing8476 8 месяцев назад
For demolding the center form, you could give the walls some inward protrusions with a ring on the end, so you can pull/peel the wall directly away from the mold, either enough to demold or enough to get some compressed air in the gap.
@PotterybyKent
@PotterybyKent 8 месяцев назад
I've found that using an frozen water and alcohol mixture shrinks the PLA just a bit and it releases very easily that way.
@sealpiercing8476
@sealpiercing8476 8 месяцев назад
@@PotterybyKent Yeah I saw that later. Glad you've got a process.
@okayleb1
@okayleb1 3 месяца назад
Hi Kent, found your channel by chance, and been loving the videos, are there any plans to talk about creating master molds for 2 part molds? An automation for an Inverted of the 3D print would be super cool.
@PotterybyKent
@PotterybyKent 3 месяца назад
I have an example of using Shape Cast to create a 2 part mold - my sphere form. It currently isn't officially supported, but it is something I've been very slowly working on.
@mpiercebgtek
@mpiercebgtek 7 месяцев назад
Nice ideas about making the pattern and the mold container. I'm always trying to find the container for a mold and cottle boards are a pain.
@PotterybyKent
@PotterybyKent 7 месяцев назад
Thanks! It is nice that the models are automatically created. And I'm with you - cottle boards are a pain!
@brysongill8628
@brysongill8628 10 месяцев назад
Seems like you could add threading to both forms to attach to the bottom ring. Just screw them in, though getting them off would be hard.
@PotterybyKent
@PotterybyKent 10 месяцев назад
Thanks. I'd thought a bit about that, but it doesn't extend other kinds of geometries. And having the sides split open even for these is really nice!
@jessiewlv123
@jessiewlv123 Год назад
Keep me in mind for the software
@PotterybyKent
@PotterybyKent Год назад
Sure thing. If you haven't yet, sign up on the waitlist in the description and I'll send out emails there occasionally.
@Soundscapes4all
@Soundscapes4all 4 месяца назад
Hi, thank you for your videos, that's a fascinating process. I am thinking to get a 3d printer for that purpose. I was just wondering about the horizontal lines that transfers to the final piece. Did you ever try to sand the 3d printed pieces to avoid those lines?
@PotterybyKent
@PotterybyKent 4 месяца назад
Yep! There's a video later in this playlist that shows just that using filler primer.
@jessiewlv123
@jessiewlv123 Год назад
Excellent work Kent thanks. What 3d printer do you use
@PotterybyKent
@PotterybyKent Год назад
Thanks. I have an old Ender 3 that I'm using still.
@mpiercebgtek
@mpiercebgtek 7 месяцев назад
Have you thought about printing TPU. It’s flexible so you may be able to demold more easily. You may have to play with thickness for strength.
@PotterybyKent
@PotterybyKent 7 месяцев назад
My printer didn't do TPU so that was a non option. I did play with silicone, but at this point I'm happy with the process I've made using PLA.
@joefanrenaissanceman8260
@joefanrenaissanceman8260 Год назад
Great job Kent. I’ve been working on a similar solution but not for slip casting but to make a jigger mold. It’s all one piece. message me if you want the stl
@PotterybyKent
@PotterybyKent Год назад
Very nice! Jiggering and jollying is something I might try one day. The plaster mold making part seems to have a lot of similarities.
@ScenterSquare
@ScenterSquare 3 месяца назад
Fabulous thinking “outside the box”! Is the 3d printed plastic model friendly to sanding to remove the artifacts before casting? Thinking out loud, it would save time cleaning each cast. I know very little about 3d printing… perfect reason to enroll in a continuing ed class at the local college ❤ you’ve inspired me to think about my pottery studio in a completely different way.
@PotterybyKent
@PotterybyKent 3 месяца назад
Indeed you can! In particular you can use filler primer and sanding and get the surface as smooth as you like. I have a video later in the playlist showing the idea.
@morningcoffeepottery5416
@morningcoffeepottery5416 Год назад
Hey Kent, instead of doing a relief cut on your outer mold, you might want to try murphy's oil soap as a mold release. I think it would work well and you wouldn't have to do a cut. Also, maybe there's a way to seal the bottom ring? Before I saw the ring I was thinking the 2 pieces could be pushed down into a clay slab. I've done that before with casting and it works well, but it's a bit messy getting wet plaster on the slab if you want to salvage all of the slab later. Just my thoughts. Thanks for another great video.
@PotterybyKent
@PotterybyKent Год назад
Thanks. As I said in the video, I did put Murphy's oil on the outer molds as well as the inner. It didn't work unfortunately. I am actively looking for other ways to seal the 3d prints together. Clay is one method, but as you mention, it does have drawbacks as well. I think there will be a good solution though!
@mai-linhhopkinson3568
@mai-linhhopkinson3568 Год назад
How many hours of printing is it to create the cottle in 3d print? I think it might be simpler to press your form into clay at the base and then wrap it with a sheet of metal ( got mine in the hardware store roofing section) I sealed the overlap with duct tape. I have also seen people do the same but use stiff plastic sheet also and seal the overlap with dog clips.
@PotterybyKent
@PotterybyKent Год назад
I think that one was about 6 hours I think. So it's hard to get simpler than push the start button, go to sleep and wake up with it done!
@alexandrespetschinsky8354
@alexandrespetschinsky8354 9 месяцев назад
Hi ! Nice work ! I tried to suscribe at your waiting list but I dont think it worked. Thank you !
@PotterybyKent
@PotterybyKent 9 месяцев назад
Then send me an email - contact info is here on my channel.
@Bob-Is-A-PotterNow
@Bob-Is-A-PotterNow Год назад
One use for TPU would be a 3D printed "knife" specifically shaped for trimming the "sprue" (I know it's not really a mold sprue...). Might be a bit less awkward. :)
@PotterybyKent
@PotterybyKent Год назад
I don't have direct drive, so no TPU for me right now. But I do like the idea of 3d printed custom tools!
@Bob-Is-A-PotterNow
@Bob-Is-A-PotterNow Год назад
@@PotterybyKent I have printed tools in PLA and then made hard rubber castings using OOMOO products. A bit pricey though.
@PotterybyKent
@PotterybyKent Год назад
I made a makers mark stamp in a similar way.
@thatdesignprof
@thatdesignprof Год назад
Have you tried combining the bottom circle and the inner mold into one piece? That way you would only need one seal on the outside.
@PotterybyKent
@PotterybyKent Год назад
That is a good thought. I haven't tried it yet. The trick is getting the inner mold out, which can be a bit tricky already. Making it larger might be even more so. If I can reliably get it out, then reducing the number of seams would be a good goal!
@M3rVsT4H
@M3rVsT4H 11 месяцев назад
Would you ever just leave the outer mold on for bump protection around the workshop? Or would it impact the plaster's moisture wicking?
@PotterybyKent
@PotterybyKent 11 месяцев назад
Maybe if it were fully dry you could put it back in. However properly mixed plaster is pretty strong. And yes, from what I understand about the process, if it was wet, it would likely mess with the water transport from inside to outside. Also, the molds need to dry (some) between uses and I think preventing the outside from releasing water would be problematic. It both provides more surface area for evaporation, but also lets the water content equalize within the plaster (as opposed to just stay on the mold side).
@M3rVsT4H
@M3rVsT4H 11 месяцев назад
@@PotterybyKent Ahh yes, I didn't consider the letting the plaster cure properly thing either. I've gotta say, your vids have got me mad keen on doing some casting. I've been harvesting wild clay from my property in the Aussie bush, and prepping it for hand working. So I have many buckets of liquid clay on hand at any time. Now I'm off down the de-flocking and specific gravity rabbit hole. lol
@peterangel6463
@peterangel6463 6 месяцев назад
whats that foil you put underneath?
@PotterybyKent
@PotterybyKent 6 месяцев назад
It is not foil, but instead a large baking sheet. I use it from time to time if I think there might be a plaster leak.
@melristau
@melristau 9 месяцев назад
What type of plaster are you using? “Hardware store” $, or “Potter’s” $$ plaster?
@PotterybyKent
@PotterybyKent 9 месяцев назад
usg number 1 pottery plaster
@mpiercebgtek
@mpiercebgtek 7 месяцев назад
The pot forms you are making look like tradition wheel thrown pots. One of the advantages of cad design and slip forming is that you can create non traditional shapes.
@PotterybyKent
@PotterybyKent 7 месяцев назад
For sure - take a closer look at my channel (before I started this deep dive) and you will see some of them. The problem is the CAD work needed to do so. Over time I will get there with shape cast.
@PotterybyKent
@PotterybyKent 7 месяцев назад
Also, there are several advantages to slip casting revolved forms even if they could be done on a wheel
@darrenphillips5411
@darrenphillips5411 8 месяцев назад
Lovely work. A little over complicated with the sealing though. Why not just use a traditional bead of clay. It will take seconds to apply.
@PotterybyKent
@PotterybyKent 8 месяцев назад
Because this is just the first stages of the mold system. I've continued to develop it and these were critical features (lots more videos in the playlist if you're curious).
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