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Autotrim for Fixed Wing Airplanes - how to do it in INAV? 

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The INAV Servo Autotrim solves the problem of trimming the airplane for level flight.
Flight controller does is "automatically" in stabilized flight modes, but for good Manual flight performance, you just have to have trimmed control surfaces. A long time ago you had to use some tricks and "adjustments" but for quite some time, INAV can do trimming for you.
All you have to do is to take off, enable AUTOTRIM mode, do not touch the sticks for 2 seconds, land and disarm.
The correct Autotrim procedure looks like follow:
- Configure Autrim flight mode
- Take off
- Fly straight in Acro or Level mode
- Activate Autotrim flight mode
- Do not disable Autotrim!
- Land
- Disarm
0:00 Servo trimming is critical!
1:16 Here comes INAV Autotrim
1:37 The correct Autotrim procedure
2:05 What happens when you enable Autotrim?
2:44 Disarm, not disable
3:33 What do you think?
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Комментарии : 93   
@Videolinquency
@Videolinquency 8 месяцев назад
You guys are definitely on the right track. New INAV features tend to correspond amazingly well to my own list of wishes. Thank you for doing this!
@supermadmotocrew
@supermadmotocrew 6 месяцев назад
INAV has a setting like "Continuously trim servos", as I know, it helps constantly fly in level
@CaptainCandycorn
@CaptainCandycorn 4 месяца назад
Im looking at that setting right now wondering if I should enable it. I guess it doesnt hurt?
@supermadmotocrew
@supermadmotocrew 4 месяца назад
@@CaptainCandycorn I fly with this setting ON, didn’t notice anything weird)
@alainrac56
@alainrac56 6 месяцев назад
I am a 72 retired captain and R/C modeler since the age of 10, I have been flying FPV for 15 years, but now, as it is a good challenge to train my old brain, I switch to INAV autopilot, digital video and open source R/C, not easy... hopefully, they are your videos showing how to sort it out, and I wouldn't have succeded without you! Most videos on youtube are in english, not my native language, but I love the way you speak, slowly and distinctly, so I get every word😁, thank you for this!
@FPVUniversity
@FPVUniversity 6 месяцев назад
Thank! And good luck
@JanDaliba
@JanDaliba 7 месяцев назад
Can you please create a video describing differences between Auto trim, auto level or auto tune and full process of setup, what to do first and using these three modes to finish a build? Thanks :)
@spartan3299
@spartan3299 7 месяцев назад
I think I started with INAV 1.6 with an Omnibus F3 on a Bonsi wing Then a Carbonbird Paris Sirus FC on a Bixler. I also converted a a HobbyKing SX-20, a Phantom 2 clone to INAV again with the omnibus f3 with many crashes trying to fly it aggressively. Every, well almost every new version of INAV have increased the fun, performance and safety of our craft. Thank you and all who contributed their time, talent and enthusiasm for our hobby, one of the best hobbies. Dad first saw RC planes in Japan, as a teen when his dad was Stationed there in 1952..I think.,and was hooked. He had me flying pulse rudder and a cox .02 at about age 7 but I was never comfortable enough to become proficient . After Apollo I was intrigued with remote control and especially telemetry on motor gliders with the early FrSky voltage and Baro modules. Then an article in QST, a Ham radio magazine had an article of a fellow using an ATV transmitter on a large nitro plane. I just couldn't stop thinking about one of those. But Dad’s best friend at our AMA RC club flew FPV and he provided me with the original Skyzone goggles when he upgraded to FatShark. Dad is still my spotter when there and enjoys “Taking a ride” in whatever I am FPVing, as long as he is sitting. Even the kind of traditional AMA club members are surprised with how FPV has been developed. In the last month I have been taking members for rides in my new 85mm Whoop, F405 FC with Baro, and the Whooplite by HDZero. They were amazed as I am.
@tubamanandy2
@tubamanandy2 7 месяцев назад
For me (and others in the chat) this video has created more questions than answers - mind you, Inav is stil awesome and every day is a learning day
@lowriderfpv8440
@lowriderfpv8440 4 месяца назад
Thanks Mate, I believe INAV only continues to improve, I'm working on my third INAV build and I watch and review your videos all the time to help with my builds.
@sptrader6316
@sptrader6316 3 месяца назад
I love the INAV 7 progress, it really helps new flyers. I look forward to INAV 8 in March.
@jojo42069
@jojo42069 7 месяцев назад
continously trim servos on fixed wing is also great. Why didn't you mention this in the video?
@k1nk0
@k1nk0 7 месяцев назад
These informational videos are great! Keep them coming 🤙
@ndcapper
@ndcapper 7 месяцев назад
I updated from Inav 5 to 6.1. It flies better than ever. So happy with the way that Inav is moving. I have enough confidence now to maybe put it on a waypoint mission
@springpilot
@springpilot 7 месяцев назад
What about continuously autotrim activated in the Configurator. I do prefer that variation. Thank you!
@SuperVette05
@SuperVette05 2 месяца назад
Definitely on the right track. Plane is flying great after auto trim.
@joemoffo9706
@joemoffo9706 7 месяцев назад
Thank You. This is so much easier then in the past.
@FPVUniversity
@FPVUniversity 7 месяцев назад
You're welcome!
@VolodymyrMoon
@VolodymyrMoon 7 месяцев назад
Like always, thank you fir your amazing work
@luisete7076
@luisete7076 25 дней назад
Buen apunte para los que empezamos en el hobby. Un saludo desde España
@FPVUniversity
@FPVUniversity 25 дней назад
Yo no hable Espaniol. Gracias
@adilsongoliveira
@adilsongoliveira 7 месяцев назад
Yes you are going awesomely in the right direction. I'm eagerly waiting for the VTOL support :)
@FPVUniversity
@FPVUniversity 7 месяцев назад
thanks!
@danjensen9425
@danjensen9425 7 месяцев назад
Absolutely going in the direction I want
@FPVUniversity
@FPVUniversity 7 месяцев назад
thanks
@EnglishTurbines
@EnglishTurbines 7 месяцев назад
Pleased you did this video about it...I shall be using Autotrim on a switch in future...😮😮😮😳😏😏👍👍🇬🇧
@danjensen9425
@danjensen9425 7 месяцев назад
Awesome thank you
@MCsCreations
@MCsCreations 7 месяцев назад
Excellent information, Pawel! Thanks a bunch! 😃 About iNav, it's going better than Betaflight! 4.4 has too many bugs. 😬 Anyway, stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
@ebg4614
@ebg4614 7 месяцев назад
Great tutorial. Short and to the point 👌🏼. What is that flying wing you've got in the background 😍?
@JeffDoesThis
@JeffDoesThis 8 месяцев назад
Should I use the Servo Autotrim mode or Continuously Trim Servo function in INAV 6.0? Pros and Cons. Awesome videos by the way!
@FPVUniversity
@FPVUniversity 8 месяцев назад
I only use Servo Autotrim. But that is my preference
@jas-FPV
@jas-FPV 7 месяцев назад
Can you explain how autotrim goes together with board pitch alignment?
@RenatoSchiavetti
@RenatoSchiavetti 6 месяцев назад
Hello, congratulations on the content! I have a small doubt, when I flew without a flight controller, on the first flight of each model I always had to trim the servo manually using the radio trims, but now using an FC and enabling the option "continuously trim servos on Fixed wing" do I still have to do this manual trimming to help the FC or should I fly without any radio trimming and let the FC take care of it? If the work is all done by FC, does it automatically save the parameters for each flight? Thank you very much in advance!
@snowhack8903
@snowhack8903 4 месяца назад
Can't wait to try this. The only complaint I have is probably not on you. There is no wav file for autotrim or servo trim in the edgetx sound packs. That I could find anyway. I ended up making my own with an old copy of OpenTX Speaker. My only suggestion so far is please create an INav specific sound pack. In fact, could you do one in your voice? That would be epic!!
@BlindedByEvil
@BlindedByEvil 7 месяцев назад
Nice saves everyone trying to use save function. Is this in inav7 or later versions?
@scottyh72
@scottyh72 7 месяцев назад
I don't like continuous servo autotrim. It trims servos as I slow down to land, so my trim is all messed up for the next launch. I use servo auto trim on a switch at a nice fast cruise, and let the I term trim for higher and slower speeds.
@FPVUniversity
@FPVUniversity 7 месяцев назад
I'm also not the biggest fan of the contonous method. It's just an additional integrator that can wind up
@EnglishTurbines
@EnglishTurbines 7 месяцев назад
​​@@FPVUniversityGlad I read the comments. This exact same problem reared its very ugly head the last time I flew during launch!!! I will be putting it on a switch myself now for the exact same reason....😮😮😮😮👍👍👍🇬🇧
@nickboul3328
@nickboul3328 7 месяцев назад
Can you e please it a little more?
@user-ez8kx3zw4g
@user-ez8kx3zw4g 7 месяцев назад
HI! What you think about dedicating one channel for all switches? All radios today is sending digital signal over the air, and it's resource vasting to use values from 0 to 1000 to encode single bit (if there is 2-position switch). At now i combinig 2 switches to single channel by selecting distinct ranges for modes (for example: for couple of 2-position switches it can be first half of range for switch1 "on", and second for swith1 "off". For switch2 there 2 ranges for "on" - first half of "halves", and two ranges for "off" - second halves). So it works flawlessly, but takes a lot of effort to tune
@swissfreek
@swissfreek 7 месяцев назад
And if you want to be really persnickety, you can mechanically recenter your control surfaces based on the adjusted trims, and then reset the servo center points to 1500, and run another auto trim just to fine-tune. The closer you are to mechanical center on your servos, the better flying results you will have.
@chipsterflysome
@chipsterflysome 7 месяцев назад
Can I just use "Continuously trim servos on Fixed Wing" on the configurator or should it be put on a switch as in the video?
@chrissofpv3017
@chrissofpv3017 7 месяцев назад
Hi Pawel...Just checked 6.1.0 in Modes Tab. No "Servo Autotrim" in dropdowns.Looks like its now tucked into the Configuration Tab as "Continuously Trim Servo On Fixed Wing" I assume your vid focuses on older Inav versions,yes?
@DM4DS
@DM4DS 7 месяцев назад
Disable continues trim in config tab to get the feature in modes tab
@dirtydogfpv6905
@dirtydogfpv6905 7 месяцев назад
is it just the disarm that saves it or dus it have to land as well
@DontEverGrowUp
@DontEverGrowUp 7 месяцев назад
INAV can display the current mAh/mile rate in the OSD, but I would like to see the overall average mAh/mile since the flight began, instead of having to wait for the stats at the end of a flight to see a value after the fact. Also, I think I heard that v7 will have a value for the total distance travelled (not just distance from home) during a flight, so that's another value I'd like to see.
@travelrideandfly8355
@travelrideandfly8355 4 месяца назад
Thank you for this video ! What is the best way to final tune an airplane: Autotune first and then Autotrim, or the other way around ?
@FPVUniversity
@FPVUniversity 4 месяца назад
first autorim, then autotune
@travelrideandfly8355
@travelrideandfly8355 4 месяца назад
thank you ! @@FPVUniversity
@TheSnow520lee
@TheSnow520lee 2 месяца назад
hi Pawel, is there any chance to disarm mid-flight and then rearm, just to avoid landing for saving the auto trim calibration?
@charliekg6600
@charliekg6600 7 месяцев назад
In INAV 6.0, there's a mode selection "auto level". Is this function the same as "auto trim"? There is no auto trim selection in INAV 6.0.
@chrissofpv3017
@chrissofpv3017 7 месяцев назад
TRUE!.. I'm trying to do this. In 6.1.1 .NOTHING in the Modes Tab saying "Servo AUTOTRIM"... very strange😂
@zoltantoth5177
@zoltantoth5177 6 месяцев назад
Thanks for all that is INAV. Definitly heading in the right direction! Presumably, if I had used my Tx trims to get the aircraft flying straight and level prior to carrying out the Autotrim procedure, I should recenter the Tx trims before the next flight. Is this correct?
@FPVUniversity
@FPVUniversity 6 месяцев назад
Yes, you should not be using trims on radio when flying with a flight controller. FC (INAV, Ardu) should take care of the trim, not radio
@zoltantoth5177
@zoltantoth5177 6 месяцев назад
Thanks@@FPVUniversity. Does the Autotrim feature automatically level the aircraft prior to recording the offsets required to do so, or, do I need to level the aircraft myself with the sticks whilst Autotrim is engaged?
@FlyingMohsinRC
@FlyingMohsinRC 7 месяцев назад
what if we keep On function i.e continuous servo trimming on for fixed wing and not using as flight mode?? will it make difference?? or it will trim servos or try to trim servos every time I fly and save that setting when I land .
@swissfreek
@swissfreek 7 месяцев назад
It will always adjust the trims and save when you land. This is how I prefer to fly. Not sure if there’s an advantage to having it on a switch other than you have explicit control of when it’s active.
@probante
@probante 7 месяцев назад
isn t this feature the same as enabling servo autorim on the configuration tab?
@chrissofpv3017
@chrissofpv3017 7 месяцев назад
Looks like it!.. That's probably why you won't see Servo AUTOTRIM in the Modes Tab of INAV 6.0/.1 I'll make a comment as Pawel appears to be referring to older versions of INAV🫣🤭
@thefatmoop
@thefatmoop 5 месяцев назад
I think the process should not require landing to save values
@helmuthuneke1775
@helmuthuneke1775 7 месяцев назад
Thanks for the last 2 videos, a question I have is about permanent enable airmode I fly airplanes and understand from my quads airmode = acro?? i have it permanently enabled. Thanks l❤ looking forward to inav 7
@FPVUniversity
@FPVUniversity 7 месяцев назад
Airmode should be always enabled just like it is enable for everything by default
@helmuthuneke1775
@helmuthuneke1775 7 месяцев назад
@@FPVUniversity Thanks
@uavtech
@uavtech 7 месяцев назад
How long after enabling is it tracking servo center points?
@FPVUniversity
@FPVUniversity 7 месяцев назад
atm it's 2 seconds
@uavtech
@uavtech 7 месяцев назад
@@FPVUniversity thankyou, that is what always confused me in the past. Would be neat if OSD showed something during sampling time, but not critical.
@spartan3299
@spartan3299 7 месяцев назад
Should we do the Auto trim if we select Continuously trim servos on Fixed Wing?
@FPVUniversity
@FPVUniversity 7 месяцев назад
Nope
@BBFPV
@BBFPV 7 месяцев назад
This is for manu? In Acro and autoflight modes there is no difference?
@rodeopilot7495
@rodeopilot7495 7 месяцев назад
I'm little confused . so on this video you suggest to have the servo auto trim as a mode, but there's an option on the configurator to have the servos auto trim continuously . what's the difference? and what are the advantages and disadvantages of both ?
@jotham123
@jotham123 7 месяцев назад
on arduplane I leave it on all the time as it's just an option that you turn on. I find after lots of hard maneuvering the trims can be out a little but they readjust themselves within seconds. Leaving it on really helps on a plank in which I have several sizes of battery pack or if I slightly misplace it. Saving the trim and putting a marker in the fuse for perfect battery placement each time is probably a much better idea.
@FPVUniversity
@FPVUniversity 7 месяцев назад
They are different things and work in a slighly different way
@rodeopilot7495
@rodeopilot7495 7 месяцев назад
ok. do you recommend one in specific for a long range plane ? @@FPVUniversity
@wtfmimshag
@wtfmimshag 2 месяца назад
Does INAV only auto trim outputs which have pitch/roll/yaw controls mixed? Or will it also attempt to trim a pan/tilt servo (e.g. RC passthrough channels)?
@FPVUniversity
@FPVUniversity 2 месяца назад
Only control surfaces
@wtfmimshag
@wtfmimshag 2 месяца назад
@@FPVUniversity thank you!
@micsherwood4930
@micsherwood4930 3 месяца назад
I'm on INAV 7.0, so is "Auto Level" the new name for this "AutoTrim"? Also, to save settings, I don't have to use a stick command?
@peterhancox5268
@peterhancox5268 7 месяцев назад
What to do FIRST? Auto TRIM or Auto TUNE
@FPVUniversity
@FPVUniversity 7 месяцев назад
Autotrim
@YT-qp3xw
@YT-qp3xw 7 месяцев назад
Hello sir...im lil bit confused...what i see from inav 6.1.1, thre is no autotrim except im ENABLED continuously servo trim on Configuration..i enable AutoLevel in Stabilized mode and Autotune on Acro mode...is that correct, yes?
@EnglishTurbines
@EnglishTurbines 7 месяцев назад
I'm confused in exactly the same way....😮😮😮😳🤔
@FPVUniversity
@FPVUniversity 7 месяцев назад
Continous Servo Trim is something else than described in this video. If you use Continous, manual Autotrim is disabled. This in intentional
@EnglishTurbines
@EnglishTurbines 7 месяцев назад
@@FPVUniversity Ah...!....but...do we still have to land disarm and save..??...😮😮🙄😏🇬🇧
@YT-qp3xw
@YT-qp3xw 7 месяцев назад
i did not see the auto trim mode to set it up in inav 6.1.1, done autolevel on angle mode and autotune on acro mode during maiden, in continous trim servo enable...is that the right way?...or...do i have to Disable the continous trim servo then the autotrim will appear in mode tabs?
@YT-qp3xw
@YT-qp3xw 7 месяцев назад
well...i found it...thanx buddy...much obliged
@EnglishTurbines
@EnglishTurbines 7 месяцев назад
What happened to "Constant servotrim"...?...I recently upgraded to 6.1.1....Now I need to use Autotrim on a switch instead?...🤔🤔😳🇬🇧... Confused properly now..😮 Also, my plane automatically disarmed itself because it knew Id landed....😮🤔
@FPVUniversity
@FPVUniversity 7 месяцев назад
They are different things. You either use or the other
@EnglishTurbines
@EnglishTurbines 7 месяцев назад
@@FPVUniversity Okay, different but doing the same function...trimming the plane for level flight....🤔🤔😳
@mysticguido1
@mysticguido1 5 месяцев назад
Can you update this with Inav 7?
@FPVUniversity
@FPVUniversity 5 месяцев назад
No need,, is the same
@mysticguido1
@mysticguido1 5 месяцев назад
@@FPVUniversity sorry for the late reply, Thank You for that. 1 Question. I can just have it set to auto-trim servos all the time and wouldn't have to have a switch?
@marccandelier6926
@marccandelier6926 Месяц назад
381 / 5 000 Résultats de traduction Résultat de traduction Hello, I regularly follow your videos. I live in the Bordeaux region of France. I have a Dolphin from ATOM RC. Manual flight is OK. When I put myself in Horizon mode, the plane does anything! I use the PIDs offered by ATOM RC. Do you have an idea of ​​the problem ? Do you have acceptable PIDs for my case? (my plane is 728g and for the moment I don't have a camera)
@user-ej4cg8cn5q
@user-ej4cg8cn5q Месяц назад
Inav щляпа
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