I had friends killed in an avalanche about 15 years ago. She triggered the avalanche and he went after her. They found them a few days later. I often wondered what they saw...this brought up a lot of emotions. Nature can be so beautiful but so powerful! Amazing video! Thanks for sharing.
if you dont know the best route to take after something like that then you need some lessons in basic backcountry before venturing off, even with a guide, if the guide had gotten buried would you stand there shouting what about me???
@@Drew-in-NoDak no is not...also if you take the 3x3 method the presence of previous line is a risk reduction factor, but is probably taken too seriously, i think that the presence of lines should be the last factor taken into consideration, moreover the presence of previous lines do not say anything about the experience of the rider, it is possible that a rider is able to put less stress, by stressing just the superficial layers, than you on the snow, and what is "safe" for him, is not for you...also the risk of falling should be considered, and also it is possible that conditions are changed from the moment of the previous line...then obviously if in on part there is 40 lines and left this part there is no one, you should ask yourself why there is empty, possible that persons who know the place better than you know that from that side avalnache happen more frequently, you should always prepare your line at home, and at the place, when you see lines taken your considerations
Friggen beautiful up there though. As a non-skier I never really understood why people risk going into avalanche zones but seeing this I can see how people would be lured in!
points out a rock sticking out of the top of a roller indicating thinner coverage, proceeds to ski perpendicular to the fall line and acts shocked when a slab breaks off. LOL
I honestly thought it would happen 3 times with these decisions. The top was all warning too and they were just bunched up like penguins the whole time
Man... don't stop there right on the crown where the avalanche broke off. That snow's no more stable than the snow inches beyond it that just sloughed off, nor is the slope at your back any shallower.
One at a time from safe zone to safe zone, radios would be killer, and group is way too big. Thanks for the video as it shows how quickly things can change in zeh mountains yah!
I thought heaven too. However, when I realized they don’t know what they are doing, I thought what’s up with the guide. He is barely audible and his instructions are see you at the bottom. I blame the helicopter company for caring more about making money than getting real guides.
if thats a guide, and yes i think he probably is... he did an ultra shit job of guiding his clients. he gave this guy no instructions whatso ever. no pointing, no nothing. just left him abandoned. really poor . this guy was new to avalanches. not everyone is an expert. that's why you take a guide and the guide needs to step up to 'guide' his damn clients using his experience. guiding FAIL !!
Skiing all in a close group, the guides chin strap on his helmet is flapping around and he ski cut the convex roll with everyone in the party following closely. Looks like a pretty cowboy outfit
It is very tempting though, I have to admit that it's one of those images (gliding through that powder together) which lured me into backcountry in the first place. I guess would be nice to at least spread out as much as possible and have a spotter at all times, if there is more than 2 persons in the group.
@@borysvengerov3398 if you are in avalanche terrain you owe it to yourself and your friends to ski 1 at a time. Good protocols will overcome bad forecasting or bad analysis. You never want to be in a position where 1 person is rescuing multiple burials and possibly dealing with multiple injuries. You always want multiple people searching, and hopefully rescuing, a single burial. Just some advice from an old backcountry ski guide.
Its because they will not be dragged down from the top together with him then no one can dig him up. Thats a golden rule, avoid standing in the same line/path. Stand horizontally.
@@unusualbydefault so you suggesting he makes a move, shit starts to slide even more, pulls down his friends and now everyone is burried and left dying without anyone else to help them?
Lots of people complaining that he has no proper training to be in the backcountry (which is true) but this guy is clearly on a heli ski trip. Guest at heli ski lodge rarely have any experience in the back country and are only trained for rescue when they get to the lodge so hence the complete lack of knowledge when put into a real scenario. Don’t judge too fast. That’s literally 95% of the customers on a heli ski trip
Remember: avalanches can be triggered by very small vibrations in the right conditions, so if ever you find yourself in a high risk situation, YeLL LouDLy aNd StOMp
This group should not have been in avalanche terrain. Towards the beginning of the video you see little balls of snow accumulating and rolling down near the tracks. This is an idication of very wet snow, the kind that has begun to melt and create water between facets. When you get heavy snow poorly bonded to its underlying layer you get a recipe for a wet slab slide like we saw in this video. This is a manageable risk for someone with good snow sense and route finding ability, unfortunately this crew has neither.
@Yelaa Bob well really the point is that the snow covers up all of the rocks and the obstacles like roots and so there is more terrain to ski. Also when it doesn’t snow, the snow gets packed down and really icey so then it’s really hard to stop.
I see a lot of comments saying that they handled this completely wrong. As a newbie skier and someone who came here because of the algorithm, can someone pls explain to me what the proper thing to do in this situation would be?
One mistake the made was continued traversing across the most convex section of the slope where it’s most likely to fracture and by side skiing they are putting max force on snow.
Before Reading comments. I thought: Too Big of Group All riding together on same lines And the “pow pow” comment made the guy sound dumb.. Wasn’t surprised when he had no idea what to do after avalanche. That being said wouldn’t it be obvious?
Must have been the first time he saw a small slab avalanche like that, from his reaction. I worked on Avalanche control for years and saw hundreds of them, and swam a few big ones too. The guide wasn’t fazed at all because he knows it happens all the time.
Wow! I have never seen anything like this before. I mean, civilization wasn't in any direction! Gorgeous scenery but it gave me a twisted stomach feeling like it was literally the middle of no where, in snow.
Generally, if your doing guided skiing, you do what the guide says. You never ski below the guide & the group skis left or right of the guide track as directed. Failure to comply = goodbye.
Isn’t it weird how the videographer feels put out by nature? Yes that was a small and dangerous avalanche. Yes none were hurt and you need to proceed with caution. People seem to have less logic and class than I give them credit for.
Living in BC, I was curious how close to this place I was... I pulled the Skeena Range up on Google maps and tried to get directions. No luck. How in the world do you get to the top in order to ride down? The chopper I hear in background, is that their ride?
Seriously don't know which way to go when the slab has already broken off below you and still standing on it? Go forth young man! Lets do that again lol. The snow is waiting... Lacking basic common sense and understanding of how and why avalanches occur. Has zero business being there without a guide (who would have hopefully seen the risk). Also that was basically extremely flat. They were lucky it wasn't a 45 degree grade (if any of them could stay upright). Regardless, if that was on a 45 degree pitch the entire slab would have been down on them. Pointless video except what not to do. Also sick of people saying pow and pow pow. Sounds like baby talk. Wish I had all my time back I wasted now on this.
Can you please explain what you should do in this situation. I'm just a newbie skier and the algorithm brought me here.. I'm actually really curious about what the proper thing to do here would be.. even though I'll probably never ski down a slope like this in my life lol
I seriously can not believe how lightly the guide is talking about this. A "Fuck yeah" after that just happened and asking him if he filmed it, lauging and pretending it's normal to have a full size slab going off with your client behind you, is crazy. It's beyond unprofessional.
I bet not a clue , nor a single shovel, nor a single probe, nor a single idea about what degree slope and when slopes are most prone to let go - "but what about me? what am I supposed to do?" have you ever seen such an accident waiting to happen - no wonder so many succumb each winter in the mountains - 90 percent have no business being there!