Avoid being separated from your boat using THIS method

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@Konfliktloeser 11 месяцев назад

Thanks to Joe "Crash Test Dummy" ...such a brave man to make the Cat Sailors Live more Secure... Big Respect coming from Rosenheim... The next Amstel goes on my bill!

@JoyriderTV 11 месяцев назад

Thanks Max!

@feedingravens 11 месяцев назад

With the uprighting line, the pitchpole from the trapeze (wrapping the line around the shroud) would have probably mangled you right into the mast. So you know how long your mainsheet has to be, hauled tight there must be a long enough loop to bring you easily in front of the forestay. And do not do it like me, when trying to hold on catch a bare trapeze wire and slide along it with bare fingers... I see the Hobie 16 still has the plastic coating on wires and shrouds. I remember we had a training with Christian Stoll, a very good german cat sailor, when the Hobie Tiger was still young. He told us that when John Dinsdale, the designer, prouldly presented his new baby to him, the first thing he did was cut off this plastic coating from all wires (claiming too much drag). He said John almost cried - but the Tigers really refrained from the coating from then on. Would have been better for my fingers 4 weeks ago with Martin in Vassiliki had John said "I don't care about Christian's opinion".

@JoyriderTV 11 месяцев назад

Yeah for sure - I didn't dare pitchpole when hooked into the righting line for that exact reason! I remember that time with the first Tigers.

@HobieCat68 11 месяцев назад

Nice one Joe! Taking the hits so we don't have to! One important point when talking about boats running away from you is to make sure you have the boat set up so that it has a slight amount of weather helm. You want enough weather helm that the boat will quickly turn into the wind and stop if you go overboard. This way, if your a decent swimmer, you should have no trouble catching up to the boat.

@JoyriderTV 11 месяцев назад

Yes that's a good point. The main concern is main out jib in - then the boat will just run away, even if you have a bit of weather helm.

@thomassmith7432 3 месяца назад

Thanks for this Joe! I'm an aging FX1 sailor and am somewhat concerned about falling off the boat. My apprehension of tethering was realized when you used the righting line. This mainsheet/traveller snap shackle trick looks like it will fit the bill. Cheers!

@JoyriderTV 3 месяца назад

Glad to help!

@dukeberryman 11 месяцев назад

One day, I want to do a solo sail, fall of my boat, be picked up by another boat, be delivered back to my boat, and continue sailing. Seriously, thanks for doing this Joe! It’s a real safety issue and needs a demo like this. I do like the stories I’ve heard from Old Salts of being dragged for miles while tethered. They probably needed a quick release. As long as you can get your ass back on the boat you’ll do fine.

@JoyriderTV 11 месяцев назад

Thanks Duke, although pretty scary to deliberately stack it, this was pretty fun to make - especially with it being so hot at the moment.

@woodsskiier68 11 месяцев назад

Thank you so much!! One of my biggest fears getting separated from boat when single handing alleviated! 👍

@JoyriderTV 11 месяцев назад

Glad it helped!

@lannyls 11 месяцев назад

Fantastic. Brilliant testing and advice as always! Thank you.

@JoyriderTV 11 месяцев назад

Thank you! Cheers!

@moremoney1704 11 месяцев назад

Awesome work Mate! Awesome! - Getting back on the water here in San Diego, just waiting on some W

@JoyriderTV 11 месяцев назад

I hope that you find some W soon! Cheers

@JABTV2008 11 месяцев назад

Hi Joe, yes that's right, I've been considering this issue for a long time. I clip myself onto the mainsheet with a caribiner but as you say, the danger of inadvertently clipping on to another rope or something, is always present. So I'm changing to a quick-release shackel like you demonstrated. I haven't fallen off yet, but last week the trap wire on my mate's FX1 broke, and in the space of 10 seconds, he was a long way away and it took about 10 min to turn around and pick me up. Alone, it would have been a long swim to the shore. Great stuff mate. Thanks.

@JoyriderTV 11 месяцев назад

Thanks, It's good to know that it works in regular practice. Cheers

@Nikoo033 11 месяцев назад

The final “crash” was pretty impressive 😅. What one need really is a rope attached to the mast and clipped somehow to you safety jacket that frees the rope when pulled and retracts and coils itself when released, a bit like the rubber strings of badges that are clipped on our trousers at times for work and access doors, if you see what I mean. 👍🏻

@JoyriderTV 11 месяцев назад

I considered something like that but i wanted to not add any more lines

@markjones3425 11 месяцев назад

Good Test Joe, And a very useful one at that. One would always assume that sailing solo on the trapeze that if falling off one would just hold onto the mainsheet, but that is most probably not what would happen as you continue into the water...meaning easily letting go of the main and seeing the ship sail off into ether without you. Thanks and I'm sure with the current heat you were loving the test as well!

@JoyriderTV 11 месяцев назад

Yeah for sure, the temperature certainly made this a lot more pleasant! I worry more for the light winds - maybe the wake of a ship bounces the boat knocking you off and you're not holding the sheet. I'm kind of planning an long distance voyage for next year solo - so i'm certainly interested in this

@ricorehme4836 11 месяцев назад

Hey joe You really do everything for your fans. And another Amstel for you on my cover. Greetings from Germany, Rico

@JoyriderTV 11 месяцев назад

Thanks Rico!!!

@willadeney8892 11 месяцев назад

Thanks so much Joe. Just came back from WildWind Mauritius to learn how to Trapeze, Helm and Trapeze for solo sailing. This is the missing piece of the Jigsaw! Big shout out to Giovanni and especially Kuma (Sp?)…. For an amazing 2 weeks.

@JoyriderTV 11 месяцев назад

Very nice guys at WW MRU, i bet you had a great time. Cheers

@barga.exploring 11 месяцев назад

Great video, tks

@JoyriderTV 11 месяцев назад

Glad you enjoyed it

@andreschianale 11 месяцев назад

Good video, thanks. A kitesurf release system might be a good option too

@declan8649 11 месяцев назад

What does that look like?

@craigb1572 11 месяцев назад

I agree, it may need a slightly larger clip/karabiner to clip thicker rope.

@JoyriderTV 11 месяцев назад

Yes, I tried it and what i found was that the extra length was a bit more prone to getting caught - especially when moving in or out from the trapeze. Personally, i was very happy with the snap shackle. Felt safe.

@markevans5596 11 месяцев назад

Mind reader, I'm about to set up my boat in a new location in a few days, allowing me for the first time to go solo sailing. This exact issue has been playing on my mind, thanks!

@JoyriderTV 11 месяцев назад

I'm glad that I got this out in time to help!

@markevans5596 11 месяцев назад

@@JoyriderTV mate you have no idea how much you have helped with all your great videos ⭐

@joaquins90 11 месяцев назад

Hi Joe!! I've done it with the main sheet but after seeing this I'm a bit concerned as the f18 main sheet is much shorter. I do add a little bit of rope between the harness and the snap shackle, but not nearly enough to go around the stay in a pitchpole, that much wouldn't be practical to have hanging of the harness. luckily never tested it so far. In any case I'm thinking in adding some extra rope to the main sheet as it's too short for a beam reach with high wind, not a problem racing, thou.

@JoyriderTV 11 месяцев назад

Yes, I can certainly see how that would end up on a bigger boat - hello mast - ouch! I think when free sailing or expeditioning clipping in, but when racing there would generally be assistance available.

@bowwave59 11 месяцев назад

I think I’d just stay clipped into the trapeze. That’s my safety line and with the magic marine trapeze harness with built in hook release for more safety. Would it be possible to have a safety pin release on the main block to the boom. Pull the pin with your tether and the boom goes out to the shroud. The boat either rounds up to windward or capsizes. Or a bungee cord on the rudders pulling them full lock once you let go.. so you have to constantly hold the tiller to steer but once you let go turns the boat to windward or into a gybe and capsize.

@JoyriderTV 11 месяцев назад

It's fine for the light wind but when you're using the trapeze, there's always a small chance that your wire will break. For the QR on the main block. I wouldn't release it as that will cause the boat to bear away rather than head up.

@Septerrianin 11 месяцев назад

That's who should work as a stuntman in all modern action movies

@JoyriderTV 11 месяцев назад

Ha, Yes, I'd love to!!!

@pixiecat6109 11 месяцев назад

gutsy stuff

@JoyriderTV 11 месяцев назад

you bet!

@thorng3931 11 месяцев назад

You can talk about the topic "should I attach myself to the boat?" all night long or you can simply watch our hero Joe for 13min. ...

@JoyriderTV 11 месяцев назад

Thanks for the endorsement!

@fCauneau 11 месяцев назад

This video reminds me the previous one describing the reversed rudder bar deadly trap : yours tutos surelely saved lifes already, don't you know ?

@JoyriderTV 11 месяцев назад

I'm very lucky to be in a position where i can help so many sailors. Cheers

@oldfartonabmx2122 3 месяца назад

So is the idea to jump when you know that going over is inevitable? (Absolute beginner here)

@JoyriderTV 3 месяца назад

Controlled exiting of the boat is better. Than falling into certain parts of the boat. So yes. I'll talk about this in this week's Q+A

@chrisbeauchamp5563 11 месяцев назад

I’m pretty wary about been attached to the boat. Last year my righting line got caught on my harness. After righting I was dragged under the boat and it took at least 2 minutes to unhook. Conditions were windy and if the boat had capsized again the was the real danger of been pinned wrapped to the hull. It was quiet uncomfortable and so hard trying to get rope off with one hand while been dragged. My thoughts are sail in group multi crew or close enough to swim to shore. Been pinned you’ve only got a minute.

@JoyriderTV 11 месяцев назад

Thanks for sharing - this has been one of my main concerns and that's why the solution i went for is with a very easily usable quick release. I would only use this if i was sailing solo, open water with no other boats around.

@chrisbeauchamp5563 11 месяцев назад

@@JoyriderTV I could see the hesitation 😊 Always appreciate you putting it on the line for science Joe. I’ve recently invested in PLB they are small and you can put in the vest. I realise there’s an outlay but cheap insurance is the way I see it, good for mountain biking too in case of bad injury

@nburlon 11 месяцев назад

Joe, is the trapeze not the safety we are seeking here ? If I fall of the boat, being with the trapeze will prevent to be separate for it, isn't it ?

@JoyriderTV 11 месяцев назад

Yes, but only if you're hooked in. I think if you're sailing open sea, solo, then being clipped into something more permanent adds a layer of safety. There is also the chance of the snapped trapeze wire. I'm thinking of sailing solo a long passage and i'll certainly be clipping in as well as hooking in.