It depends on the player and the situation. At a lower level axes can be effective when you're fighting players that don't know how to use a sword, but against higher level players using an axe in most cases is just a death wish (unless we're specifically talking the axe / dream kit, but even then some of the top players are sword mains in that kit). Dream is the one that popularized the idea that axes are better and even he has abandoned that idea nowadays after getting repeatedly rolled by sword mains To put it another way: axes can be good situationally but if you take two players that are both higher level but one has an axe and the other has a sword, more often than not the person with a sword will win.
This is exactly what everyone else says, can't you come up with something better? Also can we see some legitimate test results to prove the claim that high level swords will win more often against a person that is high level axe?
@@monkeman5494 I don’t have to come up with a “unique” or better point if it’s just the truth. I can say it until i’m blue in the face but you probably just have to actually experience fighting a good sword player yourself to get the point. I don’t know a single higher tier player in any niche of the community that believes axes are overall better than swords in the majority of situations (including axe kit mains). Axes take less skill to use which is why they’re pretty good at a lower level against players that aren’t any better with a sword, but the higher up the totem pole you go the more likely the guy you’re facing is just gonna roll you with a sword if you bother with the axe. Even in the axe kit there is this weird hotbar layout some people that are pretty good and bored do to troll where they replace their shield with a crossbow in their offhand, and everyone knows the counter to that is to just sword them. Including the guy who started that trend
I am one of the few that actually agree with u on this, i only use sword when i have a health disadvantage or when they aren't expecting it but again it depends on playstyle really good video :) ty for all the likes lmao
One thing to note is that when the guy was talking about prot 4 netherite I would assume he also meant sharpness 5 sword and axe, where in that case the DPS difference is even greater than just like 1 or 2 damage it because a pretty huge difference in DPS. This doesn't change the fact that in MOST scenarios the axe is just better though, but then again things shift when you're not going against 9 year olds because extra DPS doesn't matter when your opponents clearly cannot aim.
To be honest, I would say that both axe and sword have their advantages and disadvantages some people prefer a sword while others prefer axe. There is no way to say that one is better because they are very difficult to compare.
The sword is just much better, they have a lot more dps, axes are easy to dodge and anything that reduces mobility like lava or cobwebs counters the axe. axes are only better in early game
The best way to pvp is using axes to break shields and catch runners, while swords do more dps and are overall better at killing players. The best thing you can do is stab people with the sword as fast as possible(after cooldown) and when they block switch to axe and break their shield, then just keep stabbing
Personally i think axes are better. I just run and when my axe is done cooling down i turn around and crit my opponent and run immediately.Even if my opponent hits me back with sword I still do more damage
I will say it also depends on how many hits you need to kill the player. For example, if a person has full iron and u have a chance to pick a diamond axe or a sword, axes perform overwhelming good even without a shield just because of the fact that u only need 3 crits or 2 and a half to finish the job whereas in the same scenario if they had full prot 4 diamond I would rather go with swords as even if the opponent gets a lot of crits on me I have a better chance to get him to the same health by combos as we need to get through way more hits. But if the same happens in the axe kit, axes are not worse in any way as if u get at least 2 or 3 crits there no way to heal and u have to get an insane combo with 4 hearts. So, there's no point of saying that axes are only good with shields because that is just simply not true. Edit : I absolutely agree with you great work!!
You have to be able to use a sword. Too many people just only try to crit with a sword and it makes it impossible to combo people. Also, when an axe pvper misses a hit it can be fatal, but not for a sword pvper
Personally i think axes are better. I just run and when my axe is done cooling down i turn around and crit my opponent and run immediately.Even if my opponent hits me back with sword I still do more damage
@The Sponge Enthusiast unless I’m in a pvp server like pvp legacy, I won’t really try the hit and run strat but in something like an smp I wanna live and I’d do anything to win the fight.
Great video! I agree mostly, although I think sword would be more useful against newer players who can't strafe away from your hits. I would also say the same for UHC pvp, because usually the sword has sharpness on it oppossed to the axe, so when you get those crit combos it kills them really fast
Before anything, just know that I'm saying it for all 1.18 smp or multiplayer survival server since in your title it says "1.18 pvp" The reason why sword is better in netherite pvp is because usually they will have pots. If you use strength 2 pots with a Sharp 5 netherite sword it will do 17 damage since strength 2 gives +6 damage. While a netherite axe does 19 damage. So even though the axe still does 2 damage more, the attack speed has a huge difference whilst pvping. Also, if they also have speed 2 pots you can't really back up and run while your axe cooldown is down. The axe is still useful in most situations like shield disabling, but in my OPINION the sword is better.
Axe is only necessary against shield you can do like break apponet shield Quickly switch to sword and get crazy combos but I prefer use axe against shield and us sword when he is not using his shield.
Swords is better than axes A netherite Sword do 8 damge with 0.625 second cooldawn And A netherite axe do 10 damge With 1 second cooldawn It is not about who do most damge per hit it is about who do the most damge per specific time So if we take 20 seconds fight with all the hits perfect We can see that The Sword do 32 hits × 8 damge per hit = 256 damge And The axe do 20 hits × 10 damge per hit = 200 damge But if the fight took a short time or shields entered the chat Axe will win
I agree with most of your points just one question, would fire aspect 2 possibly change things. I ask this because axes cannot use fire aspect. Honestly I don’t know that’s why I am asking.
3:43 Hey do you know how sword combos work? I think it is pretty well known that to combo usually swords are better in any version. Why is that? That's because when you hit someone they obviously take knockback and a player with backwards momentum has less reach than a player with forward momentum, so combined with the speed at you can attack this makes swords kinda better. (for combos ig...) Im not saying you are wrong, but i think that dude meant that if a player that uses a sword hits a player that uses an axe he'll be able to hit again while sprinting to do the same thing again, but a player using an axe does that he's not gonna be able to hit before the other player is gonna loose all their backwards momentum.
Only not skilled players use axes cuz the only thing u need to do is 1. crit with the axe 2. wait 3 years to reload while holding shield (and yes every noob who uses axe use shield too) 3. crit with axe and do the same thing over and over again while sword pvp is based on skill most of the ppl use axes only cuz it deals little more dmg but their small brains cant do simple math to see that sword do so much more dmg than axe also dont even start saying bUt ItS fOr EaRlY gAmE pVp just be good at the game kids Not to mention how some ppl who used axe before and wanna try sword pvp dont even know that sword takes half the time to reload cuz they wait the same time as when they r using axe heres a fun fact too: stone sword deals little more dmg than netherite axe u cant prove axes r better than swords cuz they r NOT and most of the players on pvplegacy play worse than my grandma
With netherite armor, high-damage attacks do less damage than usual, so the sword does slightly less damage with more attack speed. Also, when you fought the person with a sword, it was actually a really close fight until they started starving. You probably only won because you were better at PVP. I found it a bit ironic when you mocked that person for starving while you were at one hunger bar, and then you stayed away from them for the rest of the match-almost as if you didn't want to fight so that you didn't lose. of course, you could have just been doing that for content or because it seemed funny that they were starving because you forgot food, but either way, that duel never had a fair end, at least in my opinion.
@@KennethGTWI wasn't the one who starved (unless you didn't mean me lol). My username is QuantumTwig, not MildIdiot. I just didn't like how Capade made fun of someone for starving when he was the one who forgot to add food to the kit. I still think that swords are better than axes in most cases because of the ability to combo, which a good sword player could do even with Capade's technique to avoid combos, and an example of someone starving wasn't a very convincing argument. (fyi my pronouns are they/them, not he/him.)
swords are better if the sword player is better, axe is better if the axe player is better, no real way to say which weapon is truly the best but sword is more fun so case closed!
Ok who likes making essays? Only me? Ok…. So first of all nobody cares about axes in SMP’s he is talking about combat in general not in smp also axes are just more useful since it does more damage can disable shields yall might be sayin “oh but it has a slower atk. Speed so it has less dps” wel there is a strat called “running away” so ye if u died from trying this strat…. GIT GUD Second of all it doesnt matter what weapon you use u just have to be good with your weapon of choice u could go up against a person with a diamond sword and u have a stone axe u can still dap him up Thirdly pvp is more than just weapon dps there is more stuff to account for like movement and *CONFUSION* strats also dont forget about intimidation tactics like the fake hp. advantage there is two kinds of fake hp advantage being agro when low tricking the opponent into thinking you have higher hp and vice versa, and bow aim and stuff u cant just aim and it will hit the arrows are affected by gravity so you have to aim higher depending on theyre distance pvp does not only consist of melee pvp so keep in mind u could be a god with the bow and beat an axe player i hope you see this
Both weapons are really good, axes serve as a better weapon early game and swords are the preferred weapon late game, in the end it really just comes down to skill and preference
To put it simply, axes and swords are useful in different situations, axes can disable shields and have more burst, as in more on hit damage, but swords have an overall higher dps, its pointless to only use or only say that one is good, as they have completely different uses.
Capade, I have just recently started watching your videos and am liking them a lot. One thing I don’t get, however, is when you said that no one was talking about SMPs. 95% of the Minecraft player base will never touch Minecraft pvp servers and will instead stick to single player. Then the majority of the remaining players play almost exclusively on SMPs. This is why people are saying that swords are better than axes. You spend more time maxed out on an SMP than you do unmaxed. Think, when but during a small window of progression are you goi g to be fighting an opponent with unenchanted diamond armor and tools. Swords have much higher dps at max and with pots like strength and speed 2 you can shred axe players because it becomes much harder for them to land crits due to speed. The knock back trick with the axe to keep out of sword range won’t work due to netherite’s inconsistent knockback. When an axe player tries to land a crit, a decent sword player has simply clicked twice and delt 34 damage as opposed to the 28.5 damage from the crit. It is also much easier to consistently land crits with swords due to the cool down being the same as the rate at which you fall. I just wanted to say this to you because I wanted any new players just starting out that if you have to pick 1 or the other, pick a sword.
1) You're fighting randoms on pvplegacy 2) Sword is more skilled 3) With swords you can: w-tap, s-tap, crit chain, left-right strafe, break, shuffle, zig-zag, wide zig-zag, reach, circle strafe, punish crit (and more but I'm just not good enough to know them lmao)
axes do more damage but swords personally are easier for me to use, I only use an axe when I have time to get a crit in for the extra damage, and swords also have fire aspect which would be rly useful if they dont have pots. I rest my case
As a sword mainer I can tell you that the ax is superior in the early game and anything that reduces mobility like lava or cobwebs counteracts speedrunners that hit and run when their shield is off, also the ax is easy to dodge and in spaces closed like caves or forest the sword wins by dps. btw, in pvplegacy there is no level, most people don't play pvp 1.16 (I have 90% win rate and I'm not good), killing random people in legacy even I can prove that a potato is better than a sword, I challenge you to try to prove that the ax is better on a server where there is a level, spoiler: they will destroy you
Spoiler: You will not succeed You will never I will doom you I will curse you to succumb to the deadly disease Axe is always better. Join the cult now or be cursed Choose an option now
Personally i think axes are better. I just run and when my axe is done cooling down i turn around and crit my opponent and run immediately.Even if my opponent hits me back with sword I still do more damage
What people are trying too say when they say that experienced players are better with swords they mean that if 2 bad players fight, axe will be superior But if to skilled players fight, the sword will be superior. When you know how to use the sword well the sword will be better that an axe in the hands of someone that is skilled with an axe. The sword does more damage faster. More damage per second. If you hit imedeatly after the damage bar is full. So if you can get a hit as soon as the bar is full the sword is better that axe.
6:03 him starving and you not makes sense because every time you hit an enemy your saturation goes down. Since swords have less cooldown and less damage, swords need to hit more than axe. Axe has a higher cooldown so it needs to hit less which means less saturation decrease.
What I'm going to say is that swords are better for survival, but for anything with pvp, axes are better, unless the sword has fire aspect or knockback
Though I don't play java edition, I used a mod that adds the compact system to java, and I can see that the axe is ok because of how much damage it can do
07:19 i belive what he or she meant is (Slow cooldown but more damage= axe) or (Fast cooldown but less damage= sword) Personal opinion A X E its usefull to cut trees and pvp!
in full netherite, the combination of shield and sword are better than just using axe. Netherite reduces kb thus enabling a sword user to get close enough to continuesly hit you (unless their aim is bad ofcourse). Without netherite armor axe players can achieve hit trading, securing them a victory, as axes do more damages per hit. (also you debunking that axes are better than swords when wearing netherite by 1v1ing a random guy wasn't really evidence). But as I said if there is no knockback resistance I agree with you.
if you have good/maxed enchanted on your things sword is better bc the attack speed is 2x faster, but when you have like, unechanted gear axes are better
In my opinion criting someone with an axe and switch to the sword is better But do not switch to the sword if you get 2 Crits on and when you didn't get get a crit
4:36 you can not just measure skill with sword and axe it is like saying, I am better at driving a bus than my little brother is at eating snow. Also sword has higher skill potential so the best axe player would lose the the best sword player if they had their respective weapons just because the skill potential is higher on the sword. Also sword enchants are so much better like fire aspect and knockback so that also puts on value to the sword. BTW you cannot just go into a random match with a kit to try prove something, because all of the people you face are literal babies on keyboards so please use actual examples next time to try convince me into axe > swords.
In pocket edition and Bedrock edition swords are better than axe's but in Java axe's are better than swords that's why they are thinking swords is better than axe in PVP
axe is better with in diamond armor, yes. But in full netherite sword is better. (at least in 1.18.1, cuz 1.18.2 is gonna be different) Sword is better in full netherite because the only way that people are gonna fight is crit-spamming and if you are crit-spamming higher damege per minute wins. And even in diamond, as you said, a good sword pvper could easely beat an axe pvper. (also no one is gonna fight you if you hit and run away every time, but this doesn't really count as a way to say that swords are better) My conclusion is that swords are better in netherite and probably not as good as axes in diamond.
Bro, in early game, yes axe can be used really well, tho the later u progress in the game, the worse axes get, in maxed pvp, the difference between axes and swords is half a heart. HALF A FUCKING HEART.
Assuming both players hit EVERY attack with the fastest timing, sword will win. But that almost never happens in skilled pvp, and the axe needing less hits to kill can definitely win them the fight. This type of thing happens with any weapons in any game where one attacks faster with less damage, and one attacks slower with more damage. Sword will have faster time to kill, but axe has less hits to kill, making them about equal in skilled hands in my opinion considering pvp isnt just a "no dodging or defense spam click dps competition). Even with full enchant netherite armor/weapons I believe the sword takes about 1 less second to kill at max dps, but the axe takes 2 less hits. Honestly the weapons are close enough that I would say its personal pref, youre never going to fight someone exactly equal to your skill level, so whoever is more comfortable with the weapon they chose is going to win
Basically when an axe player backs up and goes back to crit the player their reach is reduced and the sword player sprint hits (does more kb) the axe player, and either crit combo chain or get close to that axe player to abuse the cooldown of the axe Conclusion: Swords are better than axe, it should be common sense but i guess not between non pvpers.
If you take the best sword player in the world and the ok axe player then sword will be win. But if you will take 2 people with SAME AMOUNT OF SKILL, 1 with axe and 2 with sword - then axe will win. CUZ AXE BETTER WITH SAME AMOUNT OF SKILL BRUH
swords are better when speed pots are involved, because the bonus from speed pots only applies when moving forward. this makes it easier to combo, and harder to back away.
I know this video is pretty old but here are my thoughts axe in most scenarios is used wrong while sword isn’t the problem the problem is that people are just super used to using weapons in 1.8 combat as an agro based weapon which would translate to 1.9+ combat sense a lot of people that pvped came from 1.8 so no one really figured out how to use axe in pvp correctly or in the 100% best way
If you’re talking specifically about axe PvP, the axe is definitely strong, but once you disable someone’s shield it is far from optimal to keep using the axe. The sword has way higher dps and a high skilled player is going to be able to crit you if you run away or combo you if try to fight them with the axe. The axe’s main use in the kit now is to disable shields, punish shield disables, or backstabs which have kind of fallen out of the meta recently. After that it’s just more optimal to use the sword. The only way I can see axe really being better than sword at all is if you have a really high ping. And that’s just for axe, for any other kit the sword is so far superior the axe usually isn’t even included in the kit. Maybe I’ll believe you if someone heavily uses the axe and gets insane results but that’s just not really a thing anymore. I could go into more detail about other kits but I think I’ve explained my viewpoint well enough already.
@@cshell3424 On paper that sounds like it would work, but in practice against a good player it won’t. Plus you’d have to be really dedicated to running every hit to get any success. There is a reason the the sword is used more at the highest level in literally every kit.
Ur too good for those kids if u played against someone in full protection 4 and pots and totems sword would prob win because good players strafe with sword but I get ur point. Sword and axe have their own porous each , you wouldn't be able to play crystal without sword and you can't beat shield if u don't know how to strafe and don't have axe to disable shield
You were better then the sword guy. You dont even do what you say other people should do. In Netherite Armor swords are way better and in normal armor it depends on the kit as you sad. But you also sad that Axe is better in normal armor and that it doesnd just depend on the Kit. Why am I even writing this Command. Im just waisting my time with a stupid Video game. What am I doing
i know that comment time is late but you have to read this axes are better but the swords are better in a different way like most of the spanish players use the axe's to disable shields and then switch to sword crits and that is why most of the spanish axe pvpers are lt3 at axe pvp and you should try 1.16 uhc fights and try to join appolo and leyon UHC lmao -fast edit:EVEN SPONKER WHICH IS DREAM TRAINER DESTROYED DREAM HIMSELF WITH SWORD CRITS ONLY LMAO
I play both forms of pvp. Anytime I play sword against sword, I mostly win. If I play sword vs axe, I mostly either win by 1 heart, or my internet dies (yes my internet is trash, it took me 10 minutes to type the word(s) “10 minutes”) axe vs sword, I usually lose, but barely. Axe vs axe, anything that can happen, has happened. Ultimately it depends on who read the art of war and understands it better. If both know it equally well, sword usually wins, but to be fair, my internet gives out right before a big clutch I was about to make. (My internet died 3 times while typing this)
If you think about it, in real life axes would be better in medium and close range combat because of they’re ability to deal lethal damage anywhere they hit, of course there are specific swords that would win against any axe, even battle ones, like the long sword. Though in general in most cases in real life between same level experience fighters axe would come on top, considering variables like damage first person to succumb to the dealt damage and more. My opinion may not be based of science but it is based off of logic and probably JS simulations if I’m not too lazy to actually code them up.
All the people you were proving your point on were super bad, they could barely aim and you were hitting every hit, also if you weren’t a coward, you wouldn’t run and you would face them instead of backing off, in an actual fight, swords are better unless you have like no armour, no prot, no sharpness. Also, if you use tridents with riptide 3 in the rain with your sword in your offhand, it does even more dps while having further range too (being able to fly at them). I am not good at axe pvp however I consider myself to be quite good at sword pvp, I don’t have twitter but if the pvp option is still on the table, I am free tomorrow at 5pm, Victorian Australian time tomorrow, Wednesday, Thursday, or Friday. If the timing doesn’t work, then maybe the weekend after next anytime from 10am-5pm.
Obviously it depends on the situation, and in neth pot, uhc, etc sword is clearly better... but even in a regular axe kit the sword is very useful, especially against aggressive players. thats why it tends to work less well on you, because your playstyle is defensive and you made the point that backing away can stop you being comboed. only problem is it makes u way more vulnerable to axe crits, which is why players using the axe could beat you, and its not really a good strategy against people with a brain. also ur never gonna see this the video is like a year old why do i bother
Sword is better than axe because it has more damage per minute. In fact, A LOT more damage per minute. An iron sword deals 6 damage and a diamond axe 9. The sword reloads twice as fast as the axe, which means that if an axe take one second to reload and a sword .5 seconds, the axe will deal 9x60=540 DPM and the sword 6x120=720, or 180 more DPM. This means that the sword is better. It also costs less materials and missing a hit won't really matter. Though axes do have their place in PvP because they can break shields and you can engage a fight with it, dealing a lot of damage on your first hit, putting your adversary at a disadvantage and in a defensive position.
Generally an axes doesn't beat a sword, yeah, it depends on the kit of course, but (except the fact of those god damn smp) axe is way too slow, you can escape and turn around attacking without getting attacked, but if the enemy has an IQ that is superior than 4 surely he won't follow your game but he'll surely try to break your game of escaping. Surely using a full iron kit is impossible to win with a sword against an axe, because of the big difference of damage. For those who speak of smps, axe is better in early game people, sword is better for stacked people. Sword is not that better than axe, they're just unsimilar, it's really hard to tell which one is better, and playing on pvp legacy saying "axe is better because it's (probably) my main" is not enough.
So the axe mostly is better thats right. But If you Take an Diamond Axe (nine damage and an Attack Speed of 0.8) and an Diamond sword (7 damage and Attack Speed of 1.6) U See that the sword can Deal more damage than the axe in the Same time .But If you Fight with axes you can destroy shields quicker Plus If one Person only Fights with Axe and the Other only with swords The axe Player can go more Defensive and win cause if he goes offensive the sword can get more Hits and with that more damage.
None Of Them Is Better. Each Of Them Are Better In Their Own Way. Axes Are For Any Types Of Solo Fights, Meanwhile Sword Is Mainly For Swarming Enemies And Knockbacks. But If It Got To 1v1ing. Axe Will Have Advantage Over The Sword For Its Heavy Damage. But When It Comes To Fighting Against 20+ Zombies, Sword Will Have Advantage Over The Axe For Sweeping Attacks. And With This Information, You Will Be Able To Clearly See How Is It Good In Its Own Way. So I Want To End This Debate, Once. And For All. None Of Them Is Better. All Of Them Are Good In Their Own Way.
swords are easier to use sword combos are way better if you know how to spam crit through sword its very op axe pvp will only be in UNENCHANTED DIAMOND but when your going in netherite only sword is good axe are little more than useless point proven capade more like dickade
you're also only winning because yes axes are better if you're both bad, swords are much better when both players are skilled (i get my ass beat when i use axe against sword players but i can win with just sword)
