Axis Chemicals | Batman [4k, 30th Anniversary Edition] 

imo, the joker is more of a mask for jack napier. with the new identity as joker, hes free to do whatever he wants, having shed his old social status. nicholson is absolutely a top joker for me.

He was scared for a second in the “Holy crap, this guy’s gonna kill me!” sense, but yeah. He could appreciate Batman as a symbol of terror.

@@dk2k1 he's like " jesus" the fear then turn to hmmmm not bad, not bad

I also like that every scene of him before this showed how fearless he is. He is having sex with a mob boss' wife in his own house, he bribes a cop right next to a crime scene, someone points a gun at him he doesn't flinch, the cops are coming to kill him and he's more worried about his henchmen. He sees Batman and he is instantly scared (don't blame him)

That’s a great take I never thought of it like that, nice 👍

True story.

I'm glad TDK trilogy finally put respect on his name.

@@antona.1327 The animated series did that way before nolan and this film greenlit the animated series so this film did actually put "respect" on his name. Nolan's overrated.

@@thesentinel5523 The animated series had over 100 episodes to do it. Though saying that they did more in a 20 minute episode with the Commish than Burton did across his two movies. Nolan did not make such a mistake. From the get-go in Batman Begins Nolan brought respect to the character of Jim Gordon, and many other aspects of Batman's world. Nolan is not overrated. He is justly rated. He nailed the important character relationships. Burton did not. He did not even show much interest in the character of Batman himself.

@@thesentinel5523 You're an idiot. This movie is a total disrespect to Gordon. The only good thing that came from Burton Batman is it made a dark version of Batman acceptable, and that allowed for BTAS to be greenlit. But if BTAS handled Gordon the way Burton did, he would be a forgettable under used character having barely any story or scenes with Batman. Nolan got it right. Nolan is the king. Deal with it.

Same here, it was the first time I ever seen a line go out to the parking lot for a movie, it was worth it.

Superman I, IATNO? V. decent, I think All best

Yes quite a feat since Keaton is a bit shorter then Nicholson lol

@@geerstyresoil3136 that wasnt Keaton than was THE BATMAN!!!! hahahah!!! ...but yeah Jack is literally looking at a dude dressed as a BAT picking him up off the ground ...I think that would surprise anybody just like when Carl Grisom 1st saw the Joker in the light

Jesus!...lol...I also love the side look he gives Batman when he's putting him down

@@clarkness77 put me down. That's a good Bat. 😂😂😂

@@clarkness77 That was better

That's quite pathetic

1989 not 86

*1989

@@michaelreyes7641 thanks

@@buthGBPep thanks!! I corrected.

disco desanti honestly it aint even aged at all for me, timeless hehe

Well the one thing that didn’t age well is Batman’s suit. He can’t turn his head. Other than that the design is timeless I just wish they could’ve done something about that

I feel like Commisioner Gordon was miscast tho.

Orion Durdaller Honestly? It’s not even that big of a deal. I think the whole body turn makes it seem more dramatic and vampiric if you will.

Agreed, however. The gun fights have not 😂

Wow a great observation.

Yes these 2 made the movie even more abs one perfect casting

What about Christian Bale and Heath Ledger? They were perfect casting too

@@PortlandSucksss agreed. I personally much prefer the more gothic, almost vampiric version of Batman in this movie than the one in the Nolan movies that just relies on brute force and physical intimidation. that iteration is more like a really dumb cop whereas this one is much more haunting and mysterious

@@Gabe-1997couldn’t have explained it better myself ha

Indeed🙏🏾

Was gons say too brub 😭😭😭

Good times

Yep

I'm playing the game right now. For 3rd time

lol same, serious nostalgia

Which proves who was really in charge.

Most of them were dirty cops that were sent there with Eckhart to make sure Jack was killed.

I said the same thing!!

That proves Gordon is the man in charge not Eckhardt, cause he's a coward and corrupt.

Im in charge here not Carl grissom lol

Easy mistake to make.

Gotta put a bell on you or something

Cmon you can easily tell he’s Batman He has no nails in his hands

This Is Why I Converted To Jokerism.

Jack: "Jesus!" Batman: "Jesus forgives. I don't"

Every scene with batman is so damn good

And Caesar Romero?

@@mariavalentina3382 Well, Caesar Romero just want to have fun and get rich, and that's why we all love him.

All completely True

This comment is everything lol

Maria Valentina you mustache about Caesar Romero?

Yeah it was a weird 30s/80s vibe, it was cool. The cartoon was the same way

I love it.

It kinda reminds me of "It Follows". It supposedly takes place in the modern day, but appliances and clothes appear from different eras. It's someone hypnotizing and one of the reasons that this is one of my favorite movies!

Dieselpunk

Burton's intention: a '30s/'40s gangster movie set in a hellish 1980s version of Bronx/Manhattan featuring the Batman and the Joker.

Great call 👏

Here's Joker!!

Jack Nicholson, Jack Torrance, Jack Napier.

Shinning AGAIN shit

Very true...

The Dark Knight 2008: Am I a joke to you?

Looks derpy to me ngl

BTAS Batman: *pathetic*

conroys batman can actually look pretty damn scary laughing.

supersmashbro596 The only live-action Batman that can smile and look intimidating at the same time anyway.

Why is he smiling tho?

I agree. Keaton's Batman was by far the most sinister, becasue you genuinely felt that he was a bit unhinged instead of just being angry.

That's part of what makes him so great as Batman. He didn't need a throat cancer voice or to act all angry and aggressive to be intimidating. Just his presence and theatrical tactics was enough. Batman is supposed to be like a creature of the night and a silent guardian, and this film nailed it perfectly.

Gangsta Wolf Absolutely! And I love that, to this day, whenever Michael Keaton is interviewed, if the interviewer says, “So you were Batman”, he’ll always reply, “I *am* Batman.”

The real Batman stalks criminals

...and to enable Batman turn his head without turning his shoulders

Masterfully said. And acted in the movie :)

I 99% agree. I would 100% agree if and only if Batman wasn't a muscular guy in the comic book. I mean, if Batman looked like James Bond's description in Casino Royale novel (slim build and so), I would understand that "muscular super hero" would be only a personal interpretation of any director. However, the source material (comic book) shows us a muscular guy who has reached the peak human physical conditioning, so Burton's work was his own interpretation but hey I loved his movie 😉

Right? Then lifts Jack up scares the hell out of him ha

No.

@@MrParkerman6 Yes.

1st always the best..... When I saw this when I was 13 , I was amazed.

Not just Batman movies but all super hero films.

Then Schumacher made Batman a farce with his two movies until Nolan came and fixed everything

He also played one Luthor's nameless goons in Superman IV.

KoolCat ! That is a fun fact. Ty.

He also played John Ericsson in The Revenge of Captain Crawshank. His most underrated role :-)

Wow. I never knew that until today!!!

I love that his name was "Porkins" lmao

Great foreshadowing too he really was krazy!

Yes no Batman has ever looked more epic

Agreed. It's my favorite Batman arrival onscreen. He just descends into the chaos and takes charge.

@The strange Man That warehouse fight scene was...orgasmic

@The strange Man Hell no

@@Ian-hj4yt hell yeah

@@Anubis-xk4ht His performance was terrible

@Eddie Ortiz I think you aren't a real Batman fan

Was playing Final Fantasy VII this morning on PS Vita and noticed that in the introduction of the game looks very similar to the set design in this clip.

Won an Oscar for art direction. Actually! 👍

I think this particular film stays with the prohibition dark noir themes that Batman originated from. Its almost a 100 year old franchise now.

Yep. This was all from the mind of Tim Burton too. Stunning stuff!

I do find that interesting as well. In fact, at the beginning of this movie, Batman doesn't kill (he did not kill the street criminal that attacked the family in the alley and did not kill any of Jack's goons here) BUT it seems as if he allows Jack Napier to kill Eckhart, most likely knowing he was a dirty cop. Then he tries to save Jack, but as you pointed out, not sure if in the end he lets him go, just as he just allowed Eckhart to be killed an instant before. Finally, near the end of the film, when he realizes Jack Napier is his parents murderer, he starts killing every enemy on his way, this attitude is carried over the next film, as he kills any of the circus gang members since the beginning (In fact, in that movie, Batman could be seen cruel at some point, in how he dealt with the Penguin)... just my thought around the escalation mode this Batman has in fighting crime.

I like to think that his instinct was to save him, but once Jack loses his grip and trusts him, he thinks of his parents and feels like it would be wrong to pull him up. That look in his eyes is so uncertain, like he wants to save him and kill him all at once.

In the novelization, Batman's grip wasn't secure enough and Jack didn't have the strength to pull himself up and get a better one.

@@sonrouge Ah, didn't know that. Thanks :)

@@luisroding I prefer the more corruptible and ambiguous version of Batman we see in this movie

Nice. Didn't catch that detail until today. :)

@@beedwarf same here. As many times as I've seen this movie, right now after reading his comment is that i thought of that.

Heeeeere’s Joker!

And then when Michael Keaton yelled “Come on!” Tsk, tsk, Beetlejuice

@@mtd1089 haha didn’t even think of that!

I love that part as well. Great bit of visual storytelling.

Same. I love how he moves his cape out of the way as he’s climbing the stairs. Little things

Nerd

@@user-tk1sv1dn8t Totes.

I agree. I felt it embodied the spirit of batman. For me Bruce was driven because he was always inches away from different futures. His many tragedies and the creation of many in his rogues gallery in their current form may never have happened had he succeeded just a few moments earlier.

Yeah.

That was a given. Jack was not insane, but vain, arrogant, egotistical, and definitely twisted. When his handsome good looks were destroyed by acid, it sent him screaming over the edge of sanity.

@Ali Shabbiri Did I not just say that?

@@sean2015 What shards of glass?

@@sean2015 That's what I thought you were referring to, but I wanted to be sure. There is NO evidence Jack would have been "grossly disfigured". His face shows no scars. Not just that, but cuts do heal, you know. My rant about the scene is that it implies that Batman is capable of moving at superhuman speed; fast enough to deflect a bullet. I had no idea Batman had such super powers. Yes, it was an excuse for Jack to fall off the catwalk, and yes, there are a lot of other "reality killing" scenes in the film, but still...

Batman is Wonder Woman confirmed

trained reflexes and nerves of steel

Armoured plate on his gauntlet, you mean!

@@danivarius stainless steel gauntlet, unless I am mistaken.

I think the cops who were shooting at Jack were loyal to Eckhart instead of Gordon

amused me as well. Literally anyone who sees Jack opens fire immediately. A lot of people will have to answer to Gordon after this one...

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA !!!

What I want to know is why those cops were even in the plant to begin with. They should have just surrounded the place, with sharpshooters covering the exits.

@@DLordSadow There may have been a subterranean exit.

Always loved his reaction

For me, it's the costume... Seriously, Keaton can't even turn his head in that thing. Kinda breaks the immersion. Everything else is decent at worst, though.

lol

@F.I.R.E. he does look like he 's suffering from painful whiplash during these shots !! lol!

“UH OH”

@@f.i.r.e.5119 He had an intimidating gothic noble presence in that costume, always straight back, not a crawling wannabe ninja, but a pure dark symbol. He has that dracula appearance, that is why it was so iconic. And to be honest, it still holds today, however for kids it can be strange after all the hyper modern futuristic batman stuffs they have witnessed in the past two decades and after all the shiny CGI Marvel stuffs. I preferred this and Batman Returns version way over any other Batman costumes, tho it probably would not have worked that much outside Tim Burton's Gotham.

It looks like shit - they messed up the color timing and everything has a blue tinge. This is NOT how the movie looked in the theaters.

You're right. I don't mind the changes, it looks really nice.

@@kevins4222 agree and the sound effects are over the top top

@@kevins4222 You're right. I don't understand this urgency they have to mess up color grading in new editions. The only movie I can remember benefitting from a complete color makeover is "Aliens", which got tinted in teal for the HD Blu-Ray and now looks sleeker. But that one has always been the most raw-looking of the original quadrilogy: 1989 Batman definitely didn't need this kind of touch-up, especially since it's essentially lit like a B&W film noir from the 1940s and the cinematographer never intended for it to look like this.

@@kevins4222 No home release has captured the look of the original 35mm sadly, but this doesn't look bad. Very sharp but the teal is over the top and brightness is too much.

Holy shit that was an awesome description...I’m obsessed with this epic movie as well any chance we could talk more about it off here?

@Jnicoara Batman had so many cool entries. Landing on the rooftop at the beginning of the movie, flying into Axis Chemicals, crashing through the museum ceiling window, flying into Gotham with batwing... I love this movie ;)

All of this

(Eckhardts ghost seeing Jouqine phonix as joker)

That line always cracked me up when I was a kid

For some reason I always loved that exact part. It's one of the most cold blooded scenes in the whole movie

Well, his bat glare light effect on his eyes are inspired from Bela Lugosi Dracula.

@@nemanjadvizac4768 Brilliant. I think too many moviemakers forge that the cowl and cape are characters, as well. Burton really focused on the idea that Batman was a monster to criminals, and Batman Begins had that, as well (Batman crouching like a gargoyle in several shots).

Keaton's Batman made the stalking right: instill fear/shock/anxiety in your enemies. Bale's Batman was more about instilling pessimism, like, no matter what you do, Batman is unstoppable and is going to kick your ass and send you to jail with severe internal trauma

@@jjrj8568 And Batfleck was just pissed and beat you to a pulp before killing you. At least in BvS.

@@alucard624 he didn't directly kill them, he he indirectly killed them, sort of like letting them die but mor responsible than merely allowing them to die. That or he would just brand you so that someone else would kill you. That concept I'm not totally against. A batman that breaks your body, brands you, tortures you, I can get behind that.

I love the movie too!! And what a Tim Burton movie it is... am I right ✅ 🎶 😌

He’s the best..I could talk about this movie all day

James Waldner no, but have you ever rubbed another man’s rhubarb?

That's just something I ask of all my prey

I just like the sound of it!

BANG

@James Volk wow

Myself as well...long Live the Dark Knight!!!!

Have you read the comic outkast I believe its called its a basically what gothem would be like if Batman wasn't around to stop joker

Yeah me too even Sam Rami's Spider-Man trilogies also introduce me to comics as well.

True Tone.

yes, me too. i bought the comic book based in this movie, in english and also translated in portuguese. love from brazil.

Exactly they will never be surpassed!

You buy the Tim Burton/Joel Schumacher Batman films (1989-1997) box set on dvd.

Luke Grace ,Agreed

@Luke Grace ouch...

@Luke Grace wait i like the end scene in forever with crazy riddler saying im batman shit was funny

Me too man, me too.

Yes he is, Joker is rivals with batman he does play jack Nicholson in the Original Batman Live Action Movie

Best joker ever

why was, peoples writting in a past, but its no more the past is a present till the end of harddrive

I agree with Suat 36 Jack Nicholson was amazing

Nicholson was Outstanding

JagsFan '95 you wasn’t intimidated by Batbale in bvs? That was by far the most intimidating batman for me, the size, the suit, the brutal cinematography and the score

Alex Tuplin Did you say Batbale? That was Ben Affleck in Batman v. Superman.... 🤦‍♂️

Alex Tuplin he was intimidating in bvs, especially with the jail scene at the end and his intro with the cops referring to him as the demon at the beginning. It was eerie. Justice league however made him a bigger clown than the joker.

@@mrj6073 I hated what they did to Batman in Justice League and so did Affleck too apparently. He recently stated that it was his experience on Justice League is why he left the role and led to a relapse in his alcoholism issues he's had. It sucks but I honestly enjoyed his take on Batman as he definitely had the fighting ability down pat finally as witnessed in the warehouse sequence in BvS.

I know Christian Bale tried really hard, but I can't stand his Batman voice. It's ridiculous.

Sexy sinister smile

Underneath that cowl, he really was incredible and I totally agree. Amazing acting. No other Batmen have come close to the intensity Michael gave to the role IMO.

Absolutely! And it also proves that he didn't mean to drop Napier, he did try to save him. Michael Keaton will always be Batman, he was the best 🦇👍

My absolute favorite moment in any Batman movie. You can see him instantly go from regret that it went down the way it did to (thinking Napier has died) saying “good riddance”

all he could do was moving his lips hahaha

True. Plus this movie doesn't really have a time setting, a lot of the clothes look 1940s, but there's no set date. You're transported to a bleak gothic city.

Joker does not tolerate failure. Even from his "right hand guy".

That's what he gets for working for a psychopath. 🥴

Killed his best man as casually as one would step on an ant and kept it moving.

Was that the guy that fell in the vat?

Bib was weak to me never did much in terms of fighting that beast of a goon in the church should have been his right hand man

He will find out that he is his parents's murderer later in the movie.

When joker is at Vicki's apartment and asks Bruce ever danced with the devil in the pale moonlight? Before shooting at him. Light came on in Bruce's mind.

thought the same

Or they got it from the game based off this movie.

My idea as well!

he uses the batclaw not the grapple gun lol

I always watch this part and wonder how exactly the line is attached to the thug. Is it embedded in his shoulder? They don’t really show it winding around his chest or anything.

Me, too: I'd love to find one or two on sale for when winter comes.

noticed that too

i like the gangster trench coat jack has its awesome also his whole outfit lol

Lexx Rexx Rodriguez his hat especially. Love the wide brim.

@@SpellNcheck same lol i want tht outfit

Not surprising since Eckhart is on his payroll.

Paul Dini and Bruce Timm liked it so much they had him do that in the animated series

To be fair, it's not like he can turn his head to look.

He also does it in the game Arkham Asylum in one of the cutscenes before the final fight with Joker.

@@gangstawolf5305 yep love that game xD

Keaton's Batman had a wicked back hand

Even as a kid I was wondering why Axis Chemical Factory looked very similar to the Atmosphere Processor in Aliens.

In London. The SAME place where Little Shop of Horrors was filmed. Another Fun Fact, Burton met his future Partner and Lover Helena Bonham Carter while he was developing Planet of The Apes '01 in 1999.

Hahahaha

Really set the pace and paced the road for superhero content

I loved the first one but can't watch the second one just because of the penguin design and back story. Just to gothic and cringe Just my opinion. But did love Pfeiffer as catwoman. For me probably she is the one that got the characters charm and appeal. I think that was the only thing I didn't like about the new batman. I think catwoman was awful and didn't seem to have the strength and wit that are beloved Selina Kyle has.

@@cnote2458 Michelle Pfeiffer, HAH! the only true Catwoman was Julie Newmar Lee Meriwether or Ertha Kitt.

@@doct0rnic how come batman doesn't dance any more ?

"The Killing Joke" actually did both.

Or just “chemicals” aka the broadest term ever besides thing

Stop with this cringy bullshit

Bottom text?

"Society made him" is just an excuse to ignore Arthur progressive mental instability and the fact that he (in his mind) chose to kill people that he didn't like, in addition to those who really treated him badly. I'd rather say the political system made what he becomes because they cut off his medications and didn't offer further assistance to him nor to his family. "Society". Meh.

Yes it is seeing Batman in action

It truly was orchestrated extremely well.

Batman deflected Jack's shot. The bullet hit him back in the face

@@jakebman9071 and that was awful.....that has psychological impact. Come one.....forget him becoming the Joker, Jake. That alone would have been humiliating for Jack. He would be forced to now become some sort of scar-faced, not Scarface, vilian.....that strike alone would have done so much damage....lol. You are right, Jack Napier was terrified when Batman showed up. I TOTALLY agree with you Jake. In MY opinion, Jack should have gotten the F out of there the moment he saw the Exit sign. Honestly? Batman would NOT have caught up in time. Jack could have escaped.

God damn it we had him!

Always loved that he installed fear into everyone even Jack

@@johnbuck8399 he installed fear into everyone EXCEPT in belltower goon who brought mayhem and hell on him 😎

@@LetsTalkFrankly oh yea that guy meant business…

@@LetsTalkFrankly that’s my favorite scene

@@johnbuck8399 Oh so you enjoyed watching the 🦇 gettin' his *ss whooped by some random dude 🙃 hahaha

Stopped dead in their tracks as a giant bat descends from the ceiling

Ha he was debating, wish he would have taken out the cops tho or they shot him more interaction with the police force was needed I think

lol

I noticed something familiar

"Aliens", on my list of films that everybody else likes but I can't stand.

@@casesoutherland4175 why?

@@NYG5 because I much prefer see Alien as a standalone film, not to mention going from horror to action makes it boring to me. If Jaws 2 had multiple sharks swarming Amity Island's beaches and attacking people, would it have the same scary effect? Most likely not.

@Yankeefan24 not for me.

This is what inspired the animated series

The real Batman is always angry and serious.

that's the best reason why i liked Michael Keaton's Batman better then Christian Bale

valerio baggioli How would you know? Are you his butler? No, that’s right. He has one already.

You do know the rasp Bale had is how Batman`s voice was described in The Comics,right?"Dark,lion`s roar,gravelly as if cement and gasoline were poured into his mouth."

When I think of Batman I think of Keaton

100% right guy!

Val Kilmer. He wouldve been interchangeable for any directors style. Michael is perfect for comedy or directors like Burton

@@LukeLovesRose idk Kilmer was too great in forever I think under burton he would have done the best

@@johnbuck8399 That would've been really interesting

@@LukeLovesRose who’s your favorite and what’s your favorite Batman movie

I think it was an intentional decision by Tim Burton. It's ambiguous whether he dropped him on purpose and I personally think he did.

Batman wanted to save him from 4:01. But Jack let go of the railing at 4:07, and all of his weight was in 1 Batman's hand. I don't think he let him go. But he couldn't pull him up, either

I think it was mostly an accident but Bruce looked at him and it triggered his memories of that night and caused him to hesitate. He didn't fully realize Napier was the killer of his parents until later in the movie.

You ain’t got no future Jack