B.C. unicyclists hit with pricey tickets 

In other words…. Welcome to a liberal city.

@@crosisofborg5524 While I agree that being too liberal is a serious problem here I guarantee if we were conservative they would have banned escooters and e-unicycles right from the get go.

That’s also against the law😂 holy smokes

100% lol

@@littleripper312as conservatives like less regulation your logic is so very broken

until they start fleeing down alley ways... if its really that easily maneuverable then surely they can just escape the cops

​@@notexpatjoe We are actually having a police shortage problem. Cops are leaving or retiring far faster then they can be hired.

@@bmxscape You can't evade a radio...

@@bmxscape Unless the cops are also on unicycles? That I would actually pay to see.

@@Plasmastorm73_n5evv u gotta think quick man, dip down an alley and the cop car will drive around the block. during that time u backtrack through the ally and go somewhere else. aint no backup coming in 8 seconds

The state I live in has them labeled as mopeds too. Also must be insured and licenced. The law was changed cuz of the rental skooters that the city has.

That's a bit silly. They should just treat it like a bicycle, except you just need insurance ($80-$100/year).

@@happydappyman in order for it to be a bicycle it has to have pedals and the electric motor can only be pedal assist. These things do not have pedals and thus can't have pedal assist. That makes them mopeds. Mind you this law was put in place during the heyday of the OG Segway. So it's not like manufacturers weren't aware of these rules for going on 2 decades. They just chose not to go that route.

@@fermitupoupon1754 yep, and I'm saying those standards are dumb. There are countries in Europe where they do exactly what I explained in my last post and have been doing so for 5 years. Makes a lot more sense than a bunch of arbitrary pedal assist nonsense.

@@happydappyman I know they have been and I think they're inviting more trouble than it's worth. I've had to deal with trying to recoup 650 euro in damages from a kid on a Xiaomi e-scooter when he ran into my motorcycle and bent my exhaust. Have you any idea what kind of hassle it is to sue the parents of a 13 year old? Especially if that 13 year old managed to put himself in hospital at the same time. Kid was wearing noise cancelling earpods and riding an illegal, uninsured vehicle, without a license. Same with a guy on an OG Segway who put me in hospital after colliding with me in a mall, and then he took off. Liability is probably handled differently in other countries, but from my point of view, they're mopeds and should be treated as such. Even if only to make dealing with the liability in an accident easier. Not to mention tracking down an offender.

As far as I know, they were dismissed. However, this hasn’t stopped the tickets, or the police behaviour towards them. It’s honestly super disheartening, because many people are back in their cars and refusing to ride due to the stress of harassment.

People still need to take time to go to court and fight the tickets. This is tyranny mixed with incompetence at the local government level. Get these people out of office.

Judges should have the right to redirect proven false fines to the writer of the ticket. Make them accountable for their actions.

@@GEX-_- Good luck with that

That sucks, just another excuse to rob people for more money

You can only blame automotive companies for lobbying to keep people inside cars.

Just like Ads ! There is money in ads but NO money in stopping them😅 Tuff world we live in! And just to be sure if you think for a second your going to be able to go 45km an hours with no gas with out paying them some how? 😂 ITS THEIR JOB TO TAX YOU Hahahah are you lost ? This is not a new thing! They HAVE to tax everything people do! It’s the whole point of capitalism and government

@@GlennSweden1 But hate the competitions making more than them.

that's fine so long as he has insurance on that unicycle🤣

You aren’t though.

i wonder whether it'd count as a bicycle if you attached a rollerskate wheel on the seat

@@markifi It's so nutty that we even have to think of doing stuff like that. These are literally the same as ebikes and escooters. What is wrong with this city. We have a massive traffic problem as well as a poverty problem and riding stuff like this helps with both of those things. Yet Vancouver hates cyclists and wants us to all drive cars.

@@markifi See, now someone with an actual brain is thinking instead of whining about the "man"

@@everydaytenor8862 "highway speeds" lol, these things don't even go close to highway speeds... lmao, but okay....

Next thing you know they will fine you for suicide,

How does that apply to nonresident travelers going through your town. Where I am no license is required and a moped license is just a drivers license. You say anything over 20 mph but the rules are 20 under its own power and class 3 can go 28 if helped but only 20 if you don't pedal. Sounds like the law doesn't effect legal e-bikes at all. A nearby town requires registration of e-bikes but I can ride through without needing to get registered because I live outside their jurisdiction. They can't prohibit people from riding through or require every traveling rider to register.

I think that's completely ridiculous honestly. I'm disabled and I cannot drive, but I can absolutely use an e-bike. Since I can't get my license that rule would prevent me from using an e-bike that I have full capability of using. That's ableist and I'd take them to court frankly.

Not the worst thing German authorities have done

but they put up no highway speed limits

@@mr_brass_monkey The car is the sacred cow of the Germans. Here you can even drive drunk, kill a person and still become transport minister.

That’s very backwards. I live in New York City where a lot of people ride these. Nobody gets a ticket even though they’re technically not legal. They’ve just decided to not enforce the law against these.

Wow. Here in Sweden we can still ride them as bikes.

then stop driving them. If you do get into an accident your insurance won't pay anything. is that really worth the risk?

They literally have scooters to rent Lime and bird. What type of crud is this lol.

@@Theodrehad spoken like an old fart. Yes it is worth it, because they're fun to ride. Your argument is the same as "why do motorcycles exist, if there's a bigger risk of bodily harm when riding them?" Or "why go swimming if there's a risk of drowning? Is it even worth it?" Or better yet "why fly in a plane? They can crash y'know.."

do we need insurance to ride a bike now too? they are just making up BS charges. You dont need insurance to ride a bike, or be on a skateboard, but as soon as you put a battery on it, and an electric motor its an issue? Old portable cd players and walkmans had batteries and motors. do we need to get insurance for those too now? I have a pen that makes squiggly lines that has a motor and battery in it. Do I need to get insurance to use that now too? what they are saying makes no sense. You can ride as big of a bike as you want. It can weigh 500 lbs. But if you put a 2 lb motor in a 5 lb bike, well now you need insurance.... makes total sense.

@@trumpisthemessiah7017 exactly, next we'll need insurance to walk down the street or breath the 1%'s oxygen

Those are ridiculous fines.

​@@sb3424yes, but doesnt seem to deter.

​@@sb3424yes, but the fine amount doesn't seem to be a deterrent at all. Guess the people are to rich to care

​@sb3424 True, but they are not working 😂 those crazy rich.... Oh well

That sounds ideal - any tips on how that got done, and so relatively early too? Maybe I should move to France ... California is also somewhat progressive, BC is trying, and the e-scooter trial was a decent step in the right direction, I just don't understand why it excluded e-wheels and e-skate. How much liability does that EUR30-100 insurance get you? Any other limits to the devices? EUCs can be safely speed limited, but it is dangerous to limit thier wattage, as they need that to stay balanced - needs a very high torque motor to briefly spike in juice when you hit a pothole.

@@brushlessmotoring , Collectives of users and representatives of stores campaigned together for the monowheel to be recognized in the law which was being prepared to regulate electric mobility (bicycles, scooters, draysiennes, monowheel, etc.), they went to meetings to explain this mode of transport and show the interest of including it in mobility (low CO2 emissions, no noise, no parking, and good intermodality with public transport), it took a few years. In France monowheels are not limited in power, but in speed: by law they must be "materially" limited to 25km/h, except that in practice no wheel is (software restriction only, and nobody 'enabled). The police do almost no checks, except in the streets of Paris where a very large number of bicycles and EDPM cohabit on the cycle paths (in the center of the city there are often more bicycles than cars now), they visually check that the monowheels do not go too fast compared to the bicycles (30-35km/h, still passes, but beyond that they verbalize and can even confiscate the material). They have also begun to control insurance. Insurance at €30/year covers damage caused to third parties (persons and equipment/vehicles) but does not cover any damage to oneself and the wheel. For 100€/year there is insurance which also covers the pilot and his wheel.

@@brushlessmotoring In France you can literally buy cars that can be driven without a license, they have the top speed of a golf cart but they look like a very compact car. On the other hand, Paris banned all those rental e-scooters and e-bicycle companies from operating because they were being a nuisance and causing property damage which would go unpaid.

Great

​@@PURENT No, only free floating e-scooters that were causing real problems and because operators were not implementing the features asked by the city hall fast enough and well enough. The free floating e-bikes were not affected and remain available. They've even asked the companies to beef up their fleets in preparation for the Olympics.

Hell yea. Canada is f*cked up. This super troopers 2 😂

​@@TotallyNotBrandon lmao yes it does

@@TotallyNotBrandon forward and rear facing cameras keep the white folks in line.

@@user-co6ww2cm9kNo it doesn’t. Americans don’t share the road with bikes, and don’t share the road with mopeds, even. Half of them are simply confused, and the other half is driven by misdirected anger. It’s a bummer, but that’s how it is.

Sounds very reasonable to me.

its called "personal liability insurance" or "Umbrella Insurance".

So you think you should only be able to ride on private property? Either you're not a fan of freedom or you're so small minded you don't understand the value of freedom. I feel really sorry for you. Maybe someone has to infringe on something you love for your self involved mentality to even begin to understand something so basic.

@@sidvicious332 if you can't get a vehicle insured, it can't be on the road.

Being ignorant of a law is no excuse to break a law. "I didn't know" is not a valid defense.

​@@sidvicious332If he gets into an accident, who's liable for the repairs, the other guy?

And they should be insured, just like all bicycles

​@@OptionalZeroI think the real threat here is cars.

Especially this EV should be insured. It is very risky for pedestrians, which is much more dangerous on the road, too, because of its high speed & single wheel design.

@@OptionalZero No true a all!

@@OptionalZeroe-bikes are already legal and go just as fast, take up more room on the road.

Yeah cars are responsible for 1.3M deaths per year, yet no one wants to talk about those stats!

The wheel in question is 90lbs and can go 72km/h

@@Gycamo02that’s not true. The rider got ticketed on an S18. The absolute max speed is 50km/h and it weighs 48lbs. The other rider was riding a V11 which has a max speed of 55km/h and weighs 59lbs. Both riders were going under 30km/h when ticketed. Also, do you know the top speed of a 6000lb SUV?

@@eevees Looks a lot more like the veteran sherman max to me, you can see the display at 0:12

25lb, 50lb, 90lb, what does it matter when we’re comparing it against a 6000lb object that can go over 200km/h?

Exactly.

I got insurance on mine no issues for liability

Exactly! But this is not what their corporate masters are thinking... You can't make money on useless insurance if you are not selling it to the fools.

thats just a made up charge since its not actually illegal, so they cant charge you with what they said... They are dishonestly and probably illegally abusing a technicality. Weird how the cops break the law so much...

@@eucmike you mean you got insurance on the device? Or you got yourself insured while riding it? Cuz the former just means if you break it they will fix it. thats not what the law requires...

here in the U S OF America I rode a 10-speed to school all through my time in high-school. In one of the biggest metropolitan city clusters in the South West. No bike lanes, Right lane of traffic, and side walks. That high-school serviced a 3 - 5 mile radius of 14 to 18 yr olds most of whom rode bicycles. Hardly ever had an accident and we mobbed the roads.

I would never drive my kids to school. I don't have a car

American cities are built around car travel and I doubt it will ever change.

mobb the roads respectfully and safe brother make sure we can continue to have fun and freedom@@daniellow426

Problem is a lot of the electric unicycles and ebikes sold today can easily go as fast as city traffic, over 60km/hr, too fast for bike lanes shared with little kids riding with their parents. So maybe they need to look at license and insurance for them if capable of a certain speed.

And yet. the electric ones are self-balancing unlike the pedal juggling-clown ones that are legal.

Only for powered vehicles

This is not a unicycle. It has no pedals so it’s really a handle-less Segway. Bicycles and ebikes with pedals are allowed.

Mind your own business. As long as no one is harmed, there's no need for you to worry about something that hasn't happened.

@@brutusmaximus5380 Ok. Thank you for your comment, I wish you health and happiness all your days.

I got one a few weeks ago. Still learning...

​@@bigglyguy8429Keep at it, happy riding!

@@leetNightshade Cheers! I only get to ride on Sunday mornings. Am still at the stage of holding my wife's elbow, but this Sunday I shall do one length of the little car park holding on, then I'm determined to let go and learn by doing it! Worst injury so far, a bent-back finger that's still a bit tender now. Wrist protector helped my wrist, not my finga! I'm 100% confident I shall be riding around a bit next Sunday *crosses fingers

Amazing! How many years is that?

@@001sander2 I’m halfway through my 3rd year of riding. I basically replace my car 8 months of year, and just use a backpack as my trunk :) Electric unicycles have a trolly handle, it’s like a suitcase handle that pops up which is completely unique to electric unicycle’s. It makes them insanely practical to take shopping.

They all wants us to ride buses and boring bicycles, and keep paying our taxes until we are spent. None of the ones in power use anything but their luxury cars of course, so even if they wanted to reduce pollution they wouldn't be able to see the forest for all the trees.

It is not so clear. You must understand that the Canadian government is one hundred % corrupted and doesn't give a damn about Canadians. The only interest they care for is the interest of their corporate masters, who actually put them to the government in the first place. The only thing that corporations care about is PROFIT, and they don't sell EUC, EUC is a small industry, so they need to make money otherwise, for example by forcing you to buy their useless insurance, so you'll have monthly payments, practically you'll become their permanent slave for the rest of your life. Just like they already did with car owners. You all have medical insurance by default in Canada, you have public health care, so where did the need for insurance come from?

they are in the pockets of big oil, and the car manufacturers.

And insurance would be nice to have. I have it on my ebike and escooter and it just gives me a little piece of mind. It's really cheap also. If they are really worried they could also just require a license plate on all electric vehicles. Might help with theft a little if they did.

As a voter it's up to you to bring it up at the city meeting. They will not know about it if no one brings it up

safety=money

You need insurance for eBikes if they are over 500W according to ICBC. These EUC can go up to 4500W, most models are way above 500W.

The bicycle lobby was able to force some laws through that protected cyclists and let them do what the want.

@@lIIustration we can speed limit EUCs in software, but it’s important not to power limit them - the need that 2000W not to go fast, but to stay upright when you hit a pothole - that needs a sudden blip of power to pull you out of the hole and then it immediately reduced the power again - it modulates the power thousands of times a second to stay balanced.

You do need it for ebikes. My ebike is 500watts and goes 32kpr max so it doesn't but if it's above that it's officially a limited speed motorcycle. The problem with the EUC's is they aren't offering them insurance like they do for ebikes.

That's a law enforcement issue. I ride a bicycle and never run red lights, however I have seen plenty of cars do it while I'm out driving/riding. Police need do some policing.

just like you cyclist

@@JaneTheDoe-id2vx I don't ride my bike on pavements and stop at red. These wheels, along with escooters are motorised traffic and should not be on pavements or cyclepaths. In the UK, private escooters are illegal to ride in public....for good reason, they are a menace for pedestrians and so are these wheels, no matter how cool-looking people think they are.

Shut up mark

@@Digit0wL No, I won't :)

@@wesleyswafford2462 actually, it's the same hand there too (not the other hand). Canada opens its borders for easy entry, and then complains about the problems that arise from said decision. If you analyze and think about it, it's the same common theme - create a problem, complain about the problem, further the problem by not making any changes.

Your confusion is that you think the people who live in Canada are the same as the government, the government never does what the people want, so all they can do is complain@@HokKan

​@@chronometer9931Is Canada not a democracy?

This guy gets it

Was this an EUC or a OneWheel? Which EUC was it?

@@brushlessmotoring Solowheel Glide 3 (formerly the InMotion V8)

@@ThatOneScienceGuy that sucks - I’m sorry that happened, I have an older V8F and it’s never cut out, but I have overpowered it on hills. I bent the axle on it, they are strong now though. I also have the V10F and V12 HS with several thousand km on them, I do gear up, but I’ve not had problems yet. Take care man. Hope you fully recover.

That thing's ancient though, and I highly doubt a solowheel of an early gen could go 18 safely. They are so much more improved.

Thankfully, the newer electric unicycles on the market are much more safe than those old ones. They have wider tires, suspension, better controllers, better mosfets, better hall sensors, better rims, better motors, better batteries, etc. Its likely that your inmotion v8 cut out because you pushed it to its maximum speed and because the v8 only had a 1000watt motor. I would still recommend wearing safety gear when traveling faster than 15mph just to be safe. Motorcycle gear works the best. Requiring insurance on these wheels is pretty ridiculous in my opinion.

Then get one and demonstrate to the public that we are a respectable bunch :)

@gabinator1177 I don't have a spare $600 sitting around.

@@TheRaferaf Me neither, and because the tickets don’t get held up in court, I didn’t have to pay mine. Also since December, the 3 cops (that’s right, there’s only 3 of em) that give out tickets have only been giving out warnings.

reap thousands of dollars for the city's general fund...

No place like the USA!!😀

Cops dig electric toys. It’s a win-win thing.

And you can probably have a side arm strapped on while you do it lol.

Lol. I had the same experience. I had one police officer follow me once, and i stopped and asked if he needed anything from me. He said "no, i was just looking at your toy". So i let him follow me for a little while more and I minded my speed. It wasnt a problem at all.

i have the v13 and was flying at 54 and a cop was amazed, completely everything about legality thrown out the window

It's not possible to limit the speed of an EUC because all the device actually does is to keep itself balanced. If it would suddenly slow down for any reason other than at drivers will, it would cause immediate and very dangerous accident. Only "limit" that exists is how much power the device has available and possible alerts regarding to getting too close to that limit.

@@MikaelLevoniemi It absolutely could be limited just like any ebike.

@@beer1for2break3fast4 It's not physically possible without causing a major accident immediately. EUC can not brake on its own. It can hint about going too fast by tilting the pedals back, but despite that it can not brake if the rider does not want to do that.

Sure, but if the rider hits the push-back & keeps leaning even farther forward anyway, the resulting wreck is their fault for ignoring the warnings. I think every long-time EUC or Onewheel rider has done it at least once & most learn their lesson really quick. Speed limits on EUCs already exist & there's no physics reason preventing that limit from being set lower; stupid riders are a problem that solves itself

Also, if the pushback & cutoff limits were set lower, those who do continue to push past the pushback limit & wreck, would wreck at a lower speed. win\win

Is it really? Look at the laws around E machines 😂 You may not use a privately owned device ! Only lime and other Legal companies can … Also we have brake levers that won us the battle in court … YOU GUYS HAVE NO BRAKES 😂 I CANT 😂

not in Vancouver, it's legal to ride e-bikes@@zometthecomet

They're great until you try to carry your grocery bags home on one.

@@shauny2285 I have a very cheap e bike for that/with rack

@@shauny2285 I ride an electric scooter and I just wear a backpack.

@@shauny2285 pffft...I've carried far heavier items on an EUC before. Or wear a backpack

Yeah I got an inexpensive food delivery bag for larger grocery runs. I can put up to about 30lbs. of stuff and still ride just fine. If I have to get anything really big I still have to drive my car though.

You're not allowed to have fun and be happy though, you're meant to be miserable, hard working, and easily manipulated, so the corrupt elite can enjoy the fruits of our labor.

I ride an Apollo City 2022. It's temporarily legal as part of a pilot program here, and it's saved me a ton of money on gas. Saves me time when I let my car running in stop-go traffic with my AC maxed out.

Scooter have BRAKES 😂 GUYS HOLY!!! Brakes = the difference 😅

@@zometthecomet At least try to communicate.

@@zometthecomet And Euc do not? You must be trolling. At that point he should get a ticket for not having brakes and being a danger to himself and everyone else.

@lgbfjb1933 what? i dont need a wheel to damage your car.... if i damage your car by punching the window, how would you make me pay for it? simple answer is you can't. i already left before your phone connected to the cops. so your insurance company would have to pay out for every pedestrian who damages your car anyways, since no pedestrian has insurance that will cover your damages..

@lgbfjb1933 I suggest you read the post that you’re replying to, but more slowly this time.

Canada is a Karen country.

@lgbfjb1933 they have the same functionality as a skateboard, bicycle, or any other form of non-motorized transportation. electric boards, scooters, and bikes do the same speed or faster. there's no issue, other than people making an issue out of nothing

@lgbfjb1933 Yet an uninsured bicycle is legal.

They can be insured and kept under regulations by law! Your toy can not and IS NOT regulated by the DOT like everyone else is subjected too😅 so why are you special ? Why must we go threw the DOT line ups but not you ?

@@zometthecomet Why is your fossil fuel burning toy better than my ultra-efficient toy? They both serve the exact same purpose, transportation, and we all pay for the same roads.

@@ChrisB... tell me again how my perfectly legal Segway ninebot max g2 is as you describe “ a fossil fuel toy “ I can insure and ride my unit where ever I feel! Just because you bought into a dream that has not been realized does mean everyone else is delusional as well! I read up on my local laws before acting maybe you should have as well

@@zometthecomet I built my own street legal dream, two of them in fact. Both were legal "motorized bicycles" when I built them 8 and 6 years ago, and thus I consider them legal today, as do cops apparently. Anyway, enjoy your box.

@@ChrisB... I will :)

To capitalists, "sustainable" just means "can profit from it long enough to dump the costs onto someone else"

​@@prophetzarquon1922You live in a capitalist society. If you don't like it perhaps go try living in a communist one and see which you prefer. I'm guessing you'd come right back to a capitalist one.

It's Illegal to ride electric bikes that don't have pedals.

Then it would be more apt to compare these to electric scooters under the pilot program. Most of these wheels would exceed the power limits set for scooters but it’s not impossible for some of them to be limited to 32 km/h after the fact, no? The only catch is that they may need a higher wattage limit as power is safety on self-balancing vehicles but top speed can be enforced with a large backward tilt the wheel can force itself.

Especially this EV should be insured. It is very risky for pedestrians, which is much more dangerous on the road, too, because of its high speed & single wheel design.

@@surenkv6461 Nope. you clearly have not been on an EUC..

@@surenkv6461 EUCs are actually much safer than similarly powered escooters. I know it sounds weird, but it's true. EUCs are controlled in a natural manner with your body and they integrate into your nervous system just like ice skating or running on a forest path would. EUCs are not meant to be driven on sidewalks, they belong on the road or bike path. EUCs electronics are much more robust than on ebikes or escooters. Cut-outs are very rare (7000kms on my EUC and no cutouts ever) compared to escooters with which cutouts happen on every ride.

One would think the crime, open drug use, and ndp would be bigger reasons not to visit.

@@zzz7zzz9 we have all that in seattle too, and i can easily outrun it on my electric unicycle.

Old people? What, are you 12? 😂

@@J.D.Vision Bruh, politics is dominated by senile people who can barely operate a smart phone and remote controller for a TV. If they at least tried to understand the modern world in stead of being stuck in their past. But no, OUT WITH THE OLD

absolutely correct I'm 65 but I identified this problem years ago. It also seems to be a peculiarly people of English descent problem too. "There should be a law against it" they chant

these things can go 60 mph

​​@@jerome1lmthe fastest one on the market maybe can go that fast. Most of them go less than that. Mine (the ks-s22) only goes 43mph max speed, and I'm only able to reach that speed on smooth roads. Most of the time I'm going 38mph or less.

A horse is legal in America. You don't need to register it nor do you need a license to ride it.

running into an expensive car is still the cheap option. running into a pedestrian can go 1000x more expensive pretty easy

That's not true, you don't know what you're talking about

what do you mean@@chronometer9931

You can still run into a car on f’in foot, on a bicycle on a motorcycle, etc. Stop trying to make excuses

So I have to insure a bicycle? Do I need general liability to walk around anywhere?

Get insurance if you want to use the infrastructure scabs

@@kylesalmond5719. you can’t get insurance for them.

Segways are too slow to bother anyone.

Segways were designed to be a replacement to walking. EUCs are made in various shapes/sizes, but are mostly an alternative to biking.

Yes they are

Yes, segways were made illegal almost immediately - the motor vehicle act moves fast when the old folks home in Victoria doesn't like something.

@@brushlessmotoring Segways are surprisingly dangerous because they are so slow. Surprisingly slow and surprises in traffic kill people.

e scooters have 250 watts, this has 2500. i understand having enough power to balance the rider is necessary in an euc, but this is something the police can't just glance over. laws need to change to add an exception, or the euc-s have to be neutered in software so they only go slow even despite the power they have

The yellow light rule is like that for pretty much all of Canada and USA. If you can stop you must stop unless you are already on the intersection. Nobody does that but that is the rule.

I've done that for a ticket but they don't remove it they just give you a reduced amount. Still worth doing though. Saying he needs a lawyer for a $600 ticket was I guess him trying to be dramatic.

​@@littleripper312You can appeal it to a jury trial which is a logistical and financial nightmare for the government and negates the revenue generation potential of traffic tickets.

You have to prove you did not break the law. If you are successful the judge will dismiss the case and the policeman that booked you will also send you flowers with an apology note attached. Let me know how you get on,,,

@@philtucker1224 Oh really? Wow. Let me go out and sorta kinda maybe break the law now. Gee, thanks. :)

I love mine too, and fortunately none of these fines had to be paid, and since December, the cops have switched to only giving warnings

For an emoto, yes. (Commuter EUCs like the one seen in this video, all output _thousands_ of Watts, & the top selling models go 50 MPH. _Ebikes don't do that;_ emotos do.)

It all depends on the speed of the electric mode of transportation. I have a full size electric moped that looks kind of like a small motorcycle. The speed is governed at 32 km/h and has pedals that are integrated into the driving mechanics to help classify the unit as an “electric bicycle.” With that classification it does not require a license or insurance and is to be operated/treated as a bicycle. The only major rules allotted to it are that anyone on the scooter (driving it or passenger) must be 16+ years old and it’s not allowed on the Sea Wall around Stanley Park for public safety as that bike path gets insanely busy with other pedestrians/cyclists. Otherwise, it must stick to bike lanes as much as possible. It’s quite nice because I can literally park it anywhere since it is classified as a bicycle. So, I don’t have to pay for gas, for insurance, or for parking. AND, I get the best parking spots available (right near the front door of wherever I am visiting, against the building - as long as it isn’t blocking any sidewalks or doors). 😎

They do, if you take off the pedals.

Because ANY driving of an off road vehicle driven on public roads goes against your drivers license. That is why the fines are specified as operating an uninsured vehicle on a public road

@@DetransAllianceCanada Realy dumb because if you don't have a licence nothing goes on record..

Because the silly fool gave the cop his driver's licence! Really dumb.

Everyone who is in BC has a drivers license of sorts, since the services card is on the same system.

What does parking in a bike lane have to do with these EUCs?

@@e-curb do they not use bike lanes in BC? Where I live, these guys generally do so, I assume it was the same there. But maybe I'm wrong.

@@jimbo1637 I don't see cars in the bike lanes here. Many of them are separated so cars can't get into the bike lanes. I think the type of person that will double park is the type of person who'll park in a bike lane. Double parking isn't common here.

@@e-curb damn, I wish that was the case where I live. It's extremely common to have drivers park in bike lanes here.

@@jimbo1637 Where's that? Could be partly the fault of city planners. Near where I live is a main east-west commuter road. 3 lanes each way. I never see bikes on it because running parallel to it from ancient times was the railroad. The tracks are gone now, replaced by the elevated transit tracks. Underneath is the generously wide bike/pedestrian lane. Long distances can be pedaled in complete safety. in other parts of the city, they will designate a parallel running residential side street as the bike route. It results in bikes not around commuters.

No, but you do need those on an emoto, & commuter EUCs are very much emotos not ebikes Huge difference. Literally 10×

They cant ticket and make money from the homeless

Can't do anything about drug addicts remember, they are victims of society. No fines or jail for being grossly intoxicated by drugs. Just sandwiches, hugs and more drugs.

Actually you do. What coverage do you have if a bicycle, a stone or anything hard object slams into cars? Talk to your ins agent to get educated

It just comes down to the fact that human beings hate change. When cars first appeared there was pushback as well. Nothing is more horrific or terrifying to the human than the feeling that the world is changing from what it was when they were growing up. I see the fines as nothing more than a last ditch effort to preserve the world as it was. Could you imagine what the pushback would be if these things could hover off the ground 😂

Stop this greenwashing bollocks.

Law is not made to care about public. It's just to steal money.