Large, lumbering overbuilt scows. They'd break down before reaching the border and be easy prey for Kzinti drone bombardment as they struggle but fail to restart their over stressed engines...scream and leap...
Yeah, them Klingon “Yamatos” look like they can hit very hard. But, then again, so did the original Terran Yamato and Musashi. They didn’t last too long in their war as all. Give me the Enterprise 1701E and they wouldn’t take long to sort out!
Never could get into Patrick O’Brian Dudley Pope’s ‘ Lord Nicolas Ramage ' novels are pretty good as well as his nonfiction ' the black ship ' about the mutiny aboard the HMS Hermione
GREAT!!! One of my favorite games! And fitting since Stephen V. Cole said his inspiration for SFB was the games of Jutland he and his friend played in college.
Ah, Star Fleet Battles. So many nights not wasted but, enjoyed using the Starline 2200 miniatures painted in colors on table tops. When the B 10 was introduced, how to employ it in a scenario. Thanks for bringing back fond memories.
@@Hidensee I'd like to think that Klingon Ships don't have dedicated Marines, so much as a rotating weekly system where a portion of the crew gets to be on "Marine duty" instead of their usual jobs.
I see, Drach has downloaded his consciousness in an olographic server, joined the Klingons for the hell of it and now he is educating us from the future.
Drach actually has the old tabletop version of Star Fleet Battles? You, sir, are indeed a scholar and a gentleman. I started acquiring all the different versions, expansion packs, and rules updates way back in 1979 - they're still packed away in a storage box some place. Also have many issues of the Captain's Log periodic magazine they published. I also have the different computer versions of Star Fleet Battles on CD. And that's one of the reasons I still use Windows 7.
@@austinlange7210 Just carve the usual entries in the hull and works out nicely. Taking the log with you in case of sinking might be difficult; thus you can't use ballast in the construction of the vessel, make use of natural bouyancy - i guess?
Floaty log propelled by your neighbor trying to escape venomous water spiders, with you adding or reducing the number of spiders as a crude form of throttle. Making it the first outboard powered floaty log roaring around the lake. (Thank you Pat McManus)
The Klingon B10 Battleship! I remember aligning with the Kizintis to wipe out the Hydran's homeworld. The B10 and the Kizinti Space Control Ship combined forces. Man, I miss the old board games days.
You should check out the revised Federation and empire. I bought it about 6 years ago along with a 6.5 foot laminated map. I'm trying to get my son into it.
You know SFB's still limping along even now, right? Hasn't really changed much since 1979, and really not at all in well over twenty years now - for better or worse. Mostly worse, I'd say. My nostalgia goggles for SFB stopped working sometime in the 90s...
Glad to see I am not the only person who remembers the old Starfleet battles game. B10 is such a dragon. Any one else move to to Ad Astra games systems?
And here I thought he was going to do all the ships from star fleet battles. I loved that game back in high school in the 80's. Well played Drach Well played.
@@Thirdbase9 It fit better during the previous April Fool's effort, the Emperor class Battleship from the Warhammer 40K universe. If you haven't seen it, you're in for a treat. Not to say this is a worse video or whatnot, just that it has that... 40K vibe.
It kinda suck that Spacedock hasn’t done more video about Space Battleship Yamato universe ship Although there were video about new reboot Space Battleship Yamato ship all of them are in Japanese not English
I also played SFB and when it first came it was a great, fun and simple game to to enjoy. Unfortunately power creep came in and then several tons of contradictory optional rules which made it hard to find someone who played the same game you did. Then the designer fell in love with the Kilngons and they became THE race with all the best stuff as did their allies. So much for allegedly superior Federation tech. The game died due to 'Rules lawyers' and too many optional rules. What rules one player never used another would consider must haves. Did you play Star Fleet Battles or Warp Speed Galactica? Always thought fighters in SFB was rubbish.
Stick to tournament games - the best balance. And avoid any tournament with the bloody Andromedans! I won the first UK Student Wargaming Sci Fi category in 1986 when they introduced SFB - ISC CL FTW (yeah, before the official tournament rules came out)
@@mitchelloates9406 Late seventies for me... Maybe '79. I got it because a friend and I played the starfleet floor game with the red cards and the string, and the ssds with the warp ruler on the side. From the Waterloo store in Mineola NY... Good times.
When I was 10 years old, (born in 1960 and an original Star Trek fan). Leonard Nemoy was advertised as signing limited picture autographs for a new condominium development in Monterey, CA. I talked my mom into driving me down there. There was a line of people a half mile long trying to get 500 signed photographs. I was crushed. Mom said "You're a little kid, just sneak up there and stand in the front of the line!" So I did..... Thank's Mom!!!!
I used to spend hours and hours going over SSD sheets in the finest detail as a kid. Starfleet Battles was my full-on nerdish guilty pleasure. When I first saw the B10 SSD i had a very messy Nerdgasm
There was some tribble at first, but after some tribbleshooting, we were untribbled - at lest for a while. Our tribbleations resumed after only a few days, when we had some communications tribble and then engine tribble. But it turned out to be G'mok's fault as he even had tribble with floaty log.
Back in the 80s I played SFB (Star Fleet Battles) religiously. Haven't played for decades now. THANK YOU for using the real Canon (SFB) not the crap from Paramount.
Nuts. I want to see him try to explain Outlaw Star, where sticking giant robotic arms on your ships so they can carry starship-sized pistols and swords was a game-changing technological leap. :)
So I'm watching this before I head off to work, and my wife comes downstairs thinking I was sick or something 'cause of the weird noise/voice emitting from my studio. When she saw it was a Drach video and realized the date, she understood.
I would have thought that Buck Rodgers' and Flash Gordon spaceships, from the 1930's and 40's, would have been appropriate for this channel. Nice black and white film for examples of some fierce warships.
@ Drachinifel , You didn't mention the original B10s 2x stasis field generators. Time-Freeze an area of space, trapping any ships in it; then launch every drone, drone shuttle fighter drone and then main weapons just as you drop the stasis and any ships caught within the field are dust.
Truly GLORIOUS! But... Given that Godzilla vs Kong dropped just yesterday in the US, I ALMOST wish we had gotten the 5 minute guide to the Gorn Confederation 'GODZILLA' class battleship. Still, the pride of the DSF deserves its recognition. Even if for reasons of security you didn't mention the two Stasis Field Generators.
Never flew a B-10 in SFB, but flew against one in a couple of engagements. In all cases, the B-10 suffered from "primary targetitus." Nothing unites an opponent's fire doctrine like the presence of an apparently overwhelming unit. Thus, in all cases the Fire Magnet melted quickly, none lasting past the third round. Once such a huge proportion of a fleet's belligerence is gone, the remaining fleet is advised to "drop the 't'" and flee. Of course, they didn't... they were Klingons. There are debris fields to prove their "honorable" bullheadedness. Sometimes, a vessel can be too impressive.
Old gamer here, loved SFB! Hated the BBs. Big slow to sluggish hugely. In SFB there was large trade offs for size. The bigger you get the more it costs to move. Also, IIRC shelding costs more as well. This makes it harder to energize the heavy weapons, especially overloads. Drone racks help with this, but there are lots of countermeasures to Drones. Also short range defencive phasers were commonplace on ALL FED vessels by the time the B10 was completed. IIRC the FED BCs, mentioned often, had gatling Phasers. Loved this episode! Try playing Star Fleet Command Not as good as SFB, but pretty good.
Is that your covid voice? better see a Doctor about that. Glad to see you starting a SERIES on SFB ships... will you be covering the war history of the Hydran Lancer next?
Oh that brings back memories. Star Fleet Battles was glorious... In that spirit Drach, I had a thought about those ships biscuits you made the other day. Did you ever consider hauling up a bucket of sea water and giving them a bit of a soak? Ya know, they may have done that just to flavour them, let alone make them safe for your teeth. They weren't Klingons after all.
The B10 was a monstrosity. The definition of Klingon speed and maneuverability was the F5W class. I loved flying a squadron of those. My gaming friends never really appreciated SFB, one of them claimed it was as much fun as filling out a tax form.
Eh, the D5s were fun too. Then again, all the "war cruiser" designs were pretty enjoyable to push around. These days, I would definitely agree with your friend though. Outdated game design, needlessly clunky, and the only real standout feature is the amount of replay value for one-on-one ship duels, a subgenre of starship combat that isn't well-served.
Well played sir. I will have to admit when I was watching this, I almost coughed up my morning roctagino. Tonight I will raise a goblet of bloodwine in your name. Glory to the Empire.
Lore note from the Starfleet Universe: the Mars class was never any more then a design study, Similar to the American Montana class. The Federation decided that having more smaller ships was a better idea then having a few expensive big targets. No other empires of that universe could afford a battleship on the same scale as the B10, though all had design studies and blueprints on file. The B10 was realistically a failure, with the amount of resources and time it took to build each one being the same as a fleet of conventional warships, but only able to operate in a fleet except in the most unusual of circumstances. Thus, each B10 used up 2 battlefleets of men and material while only being able to operate in one sector.
I was reading honor Harrington right before this, so the point about it being 500,000 tonnes, and the maximum range being just over a light second is hilarious to me, because in that series, the largest superdreadnoughts were over 8,000,000 tonnes. 500,000 tonnes would have gotten you a tiny battlecruiser, or a really big heavy cruiser
Amusingly, Steve Weber used to work with Steve Cole, although I think he was always more of a Starfire guy (which he's written most of the published fiction for). You can see a lot of Starfire in the Harrington books...
