Remember the Book of G'Kar. In the beginning his opinions on other species were vile and with disgust. At the end of the book he enlightened the readers to the true teachings that people and cultures change for the better.
And that's why even my grandmother liked this show, she liked how the characters had actual personalities and evolved. I think G'Kar was actually her favorite character.
Something I rarely seen in any type of show. Characters evolving and changing over time. Situation and surrounding evolving and changing over time. Everything slovly changes, just like it does in real life. Sure there are exceptions but they are rare and extremely far between
@@benjo_5 Oh yeah, all the times he shouted, smiled, laughed, cried, experienced remorse-regret-guilt about the Battle of the Line, all of that was totally statue-like...
@@benjo_5 We're basically judging the man on 1 season and towards the end, they started to lighten the character up a little, but in the end all we got was the 1 season and then a final send off a couple of seasons later. Hard to compare the man who was in the pilot and 1 season to a man who got 4 seasons & multiple movies.
@@benjo_5 i disagree. he had all the calm and demeanor of a professional soldier; perfect for the character. moreso for one trying to repress decades of guilt and anguish.
Yeah, they thought Captain Sheridan was a great warrior, deadly in a fight, and sure you can go against him and respect the adversary, but the smooth-talking, spiritual, thoughtful diplomat Sinclair -- he's the truly terrifying one.
The proof of how good the writing on this show was is the arc of the character G'Kar, from a scheming honor-less villain, to one of the most honorable and memorable characters in all of sci-fi
He had the most amazing transformation throughout the series. Along with Mollari's and his eventual end. Funny, the guy most people like transforms into the biggest douche and the biggest douche becomes one of the series casts most missed members
As G'Kar was known for saying "no one here is as they appear" All characters went through their own transition. It is one if the things I loved about the show. I loved watching them all grow. The two that got me the most were G'Kar and Mollari. G'Kar was able to let go and redeem himself but Mollari kept digging in and ended up trapped.
My favorite scene in B5. Absolute favorite. Somewhere, I have a folder of posts from JMS himself to the B5 newsgroup and one of them stuck in my memory (don't ask me why); When UPN gave the green light to B5 to be a series, they were doing the first script read through and bear in mind, air had been two years between filming the pilot and this, so people were trying to get into character. Peter Jurasik stood up on his chair and said "Ah, my good close friend MISTER Garabaldi" and just like that, the magic was back. The takeaway from this is that anything involving Garabaldi is comedy gold.
There was this really long interview with Peter Jurasik I read many years ago, where he states that "Mr. Garibaldi" was his mantra to get into character, saying it over and over again before a scene.
RP Evans I think the story of what happened to Michael O'Hare is one of the saddest stories in Hollywood. Sure, there are a number of celebrities than end up like he did (or worse). but for the most part, their fate was the result of poor choices on their own part. Michael's brain just didn't work right. Not because of anything he chose, but just the bad luck of random chance. SandsOfArrakis It's rather extraordinary the number of actors on that program who have passed.
He went far beyond Ghandi, Bhudda, Mohammed, any guru you care to name, any charismatic preacher, or whatever. But *not nearly* close to Jesus, the Christ...
@@InfernosReaper To be fair they did offer to suspend production for 6 months so he could get help, he chose to keep filming as it would threaten the series and asked to be written out instead
@@andreww2098 Yeah, though, he knew there wasn't a certainty that he could get help and it actually work. Dude was a good guy in the end. It's kind of a shame things had to go that way, though. What could have been would've been really interesting.
Mollari was laughing at G'Kar and his beep beep, but about 3 years later, he slipped part 1 of a 2 part poison into Lord Refa's drink on Babylon 5, to ensure his compliance. It was like G'Kar and Mollari changed places as the show moved on.
G'Kar was one of the best characters of B5 . And in many ways one of the funniest! Andrew Katulas who portrayed him - was remarkably witty. A great pity that he passed away when he did. 17 years ago.
Sinclair is the most badass commander in Babylon 5 history! I love Cmdr. Sinclair he was sincerely one of my many favorite characters! #RIPMichaelOHare!
The first season had the budget of a breakfast for four in a posh restaurant if noone takes muffins twice. Had they had the one of, say, DS9, which producers they had approached decided to make after reading and "refusing" B5's script, thing would have been different. I'd look at it this way: the show was a success even with these crude makeups. Says a lot about the quality of the writing and of the interpretation.
A lot of the "sorting out" of makeup issues is pushed by the actors themselves not willing to endure three or four hours of makeup sessions before beginning to work each and every time. Bill Mumy's makeup sessions were successfully reduced down to under two hours, and his schedule was arranged to maximise the time he's wearing it.
One of best encounter between two major religious figures of the show, the one who yet to receive his revelation The other who is ready and slowly approaching his destiny.
@0:45 "It should dissolve in about five years"..... was that really foreshadowing of B5's planned 5 year main story arc?!?! If so, mad props to JMS' confidence in his vision!
One thing I love about B5 was their sense of play....the humour that made its way through the entire series....how it tried not to take itself too seriously! Unmatched in sci fi series except by maybe the Lexx.
If they ever redo B5, I pray they never change the chemistry between characters or the script. Scenes like this one totally make this series a classic.
The script is merely the vehicle for the actors to construct their interactions upon. The chemistry comes from them working and enjoying one another's company while following the script, and having a director wise enough to allow ad-libs, asides and personalities to shine through, and string enough to *not* having selfish divas trying to hog the limelight. B5 is a Rare Gem in every Series, even if S1 was a little, let's say, uneven...
Andreas wanted to play gkar as a french dandy ( hence the dabbing silk handkerchief ) ..glad he changed it later on ..made his spiritual conversion a lot more authentic
I love how Katsulas played G'kar in the Gathering with such a dainty affect. It is almost like G'kar is "new" money whereas Londo is "old" money. And for those of us keeping up with the science, in 1993 nanotech was a genuine new concept. Would it not theoretically be possible to not only track an individual using that tech, but to also use that tech to monitor and record conversations had by the individual who's been "bugged?" It's a fascinating idea.
Yeah, it sometimes feels like the Narns (or at least G'Kar) were meant to be shady characters, and the Centauri (and Mollari) as more earnest and rightful. Turned pretty lobsided, I'd say. But that's a wonderful way it went.
As JMS put it, he wanted a show where the guy who comes off like the moustache twirling villain turns out to be a noble savior, and the nostalgic warm-spirited clown becomes this dark figure. In his words, in television sci fi, the world is established, these are the good guys, these are the badguys, and they never budge. I think, for the first real crack at doing that on American TV, JMS did a great great job.
The story goes that before they started filming, Joe, Andreas, and Peter went aside and they flipped a coin to see who, between G'kar and Londo, would be the villain. And they never, ever revealed the result. No doubt because JMS knew if he made a villain, we would eventually find it, but if he just said there was one, we'd keep looking... indefinitely.
I don't see G'Kar as a totally noble savior, even after his heel face turn (as a "practicing Protestant" I still cringe at the Jesus references). Still had a lot of flaws. And even as a dark figure, Londo still had a conscience, and after realizing his errors, did try what little he could to atone for it.
I know. It's not Bruce Boxleitner's fault, though. The story wasn't meant for him. He was the guy stuck stepping in to take over as the leading man after personal tragedy forced Michael O'Hare to leave. It's always going to feel a bit different when that happens.
This is from the pilot "The Gathering". By the time of the second and third shows they changed some of the alien make up and softened things a bit. Delen's makeup for the rest of the first season was better most notably. And her change in the second season was just WOW. My jaw dropped. Sheridan looked gobsmacked. But the best of the gathering comedy wise was "beep beep"
they also changed the alien sector from how it looked in the pilot. people were asking why the alien sector was laid out that way and when it was changed these people then asked why the alien sector looked so human. you make the aliens alien in mannerisms and people complain that the aliens are acting alien.
From what I've heard, Delenn was originally written to be a male Mimbari for the first season (still played by the actress), which is one reason for the severe features of the makeup seen in the pilot. Delenn's transition into Season 2 was going to be one of gender as well as human characteristics. This never happened because the late Mira Furlan could not pull off a believable masculine character.
This is, of course, brilliant. Yet I cannot help but feel great sadness, as three of the four actors in this scene have all passed away, far too soon. We have lost so many of the actors from this show, yet there are still many actors from OG Star Trek, who are still with us. What is wrong with the actors from B5?
On really fantastic thing about Babylon 5 was that no one was all good or all bad. The characters and stories were much more realistic. I found the evolving relationship between G'Kar and Lando to be especially interesting. Unlike Star Trek, which tried to present a perfect utopia, Babylon 5 depicted a much more realistic society.
I know that Deep Space 9 is a sore spot for some B5 fans, but it wasn't the perfect utopia that TNG was. One of the things that make it the best Trek show of them all. "It's easy to be a saint in paradise".
It's interesting how Babylon 5 was overshadowed by Star Trek The Next Generation but as years progressed, despite the low budget, the show just keeps getting better!
I loved the way G-Kar turned out to become the wise, thoughtful and balanced character he became, despite the dark path he was made to take. Londo, too, in his way. Though his path was darker, and he chose it voluntarily. "What do you want?" or "Who are you?" What would *you* choose?
O'Hare has more foundation on his face in this scene than an adult movie actress!!! He got too dark make-up occasionally during Season 1, too. 'How to look older than your real age by 10 years just in 15 minutes.' - must have been the slogan of his makeup person on duty.
They did have a lot of work to do on the makeup. Improvements were made between season 1 & the pilot, but it took them a while to get it down all the way
@@toomanyaccounts They couldn't get the voice changer right, so ultimately they just re-dubbed the personal pronouns as required (they had shot the whole thing still intending her to be male) and gave up on the idea when they later went to series.
G'Kar became 'enlightened' over the course of the show. Both in his understanding of his religious beliefs and interactions with the universe at large. He found that what he knew from before being assigned to B5 was a small part of what other species could share and value. Londo on the other hand. Was looking to reclaim the glory of his youth. The days when the Centari race was dominant in the galaxy. He found a way to get the power to bring that glory back. Power that came with terrible cost. So yes. They did change personalities over the course of the first season and into the second.
ive used this tactic a time or too. Was bullied a lot in school told several. "Allright you whooped my ass, But i will pay you back." so fun watching them squirm and look over their shoulder waiting for a knife or some other attack that is not coming. Fear is the Ultimate mind killer. And the best revenge is them punishing themselves waiting for you to strike.
Loved the movie, still strange that Kosh shook the fake Sinclair's hand but wouldn't shake anyone's hand later on. Perhaps because he was almost poisoned?
@@bloodysimile4893 Also considering the fake Sinclair was Minibari should have ticked off since all races were genetically altered to see them as beings of light, so the Minbari being of light would have been different from a human. I know, sight thing, but the hand would have been a dead giveaway.
Possibly because Michael O'Hare was losing his mind and becoming more paranoid among other things. JMS had to convince O'Hare to finish out the first season. There is a video explaining this: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-AwyAo_YjtdM.html
I thought he was a real nice change from the norm in the series proper. When he did shout, it was that much more impactful because he was so often soft spoken and very calm in demeanour. I don't think any of the other Trek captains really fit that kind of profile. Picard was more taut in nature rather than laid back and relaxed but that's probably still the closest comparison.
It wasn't a bomb, as Sinclair said "...it's a location transmitter..." and sadly no, I'd have loved if after Sinclair left and Sheridan took over if he too went up to G'Kar and said... "Beep beep ambassador" and just smiled...
The threat was EarthForce was going to find and kill G'Kar if Babylon 5 were ever to be destroyed. What happens in the five years the theoretical device was supposed to work? G'Kar was no longer a threat; He had far, far greater problems to deal with than EarthForce; and EarthForce itself was on a mission to destroy Babylon 5! At that point, the question is: "What transmitter?"
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