There's nothing to do with it, there's nothing wrong with what a hero does, a criminal's subordinates are nothing more than just to be used by their boss, if the boss is sad, stop committing crimes... Sorry but there's no truth to this argument.
you know, even criminals have feelings. what you mean is psychopath who will do anything to achieve their goals even being a "good" person that will not kill anyone until the moment comes.
Never before have I felt so disgusted at the death of an anime character, the closest thing was when I watched corpse party tortured souls and Sachiko was gouging eyes out with rusty scissors, and that was just because I cannot handle ripped nails or eye injuries, this however achieved a stronger feeling disgust without even showing an excesive amount of blood or even chopped up body parts, honestly, I'm impressed.
Try to play the VN or watch the Anime of Higurashi. One of the character there is also voiced by the same voice actor of Magase. The series is also of the same nature, but more convoluted.
@@johnpetersantiago2630 I have watched it, and I really liked it, I'm actually looking forward to the remake it's getting, except for the nail ripping scene though, I'm not looking forward to that.
@@JBarezIFQ She enjoys it how many can say that about themselves, the others are either over the top or has some sad backstory. Even her abilities can be explained with science even though they seem supernatural!
On another note, I have a feeling that Ai Magase is supposed to be some kind of literal incarnation of Babylon the Great, as described in Revelation: “Babylon the Great is described as a woman arrayed in purple and scarlet... Upon her forehead a name is written, “a mystery: ‘Babylon the Great, the mother of the harlots and of the disgusting things of the earth.’”
Well in their defence it all depends on how we imagine the axe is crisply chopping her limbs and necks with arteries gushing and bones cracking while the blood splashes out and she feels the wet puddle of blood making her covering her belly and losing sanity to indiscriminate pain and insanity. All these things are in our/my mind imagining( I AM PSYCHOTIC ). What they showed was a girl swing axe which immediately cut into a family making lunch. So guess it's officially right,...
The way they presented this scene made me actually vomit. Bravo. Gore doesn't really faze me most of the time and yet here where they don't even show the thing made my blood run cold. It's more than just the murder itself. There's something about Magane that's really really making me scared.
Right and magase i love her as a antagonist because she has no reason,sad backstory or anything she is just pure untainted evil like joker and this scene literally made my stomach churn
She makes for a great Representation of what evil is fundamentally While Seizaki is clouded, he firmly believed in justice but now thats a bit muddy as.... This is gonna sound pretentious but There isn't really any true justice in the world
this , the point is that some people can only be happy if they do bad things and since the point of living is to persue happiness they "have no choice" with so many different people and different wishes war is inevitable , but its delusional to claim that "the universe" is on your side the only way to get rid of all evil is to get rid of all people
@@username1728 You gave me a big think On the surface it just seems like Magase does what she wants when she wants And that's what makes her evil But she does call herself a hero (Playing into her hero with a thousand faces trope) While at the same time she calls herself "villainous" Proposing these huge thinks to seizaki Clouding his judgement What you said is true Without humanity there technically is no evil And no good So perhaps that's what magase's goal is To be the heroine that saves the world
anime villains do seem to forget life essentials, both good and evil are crystal clear, anyone with a religion would never fall for magase's philosophy, because good is helping people mentally and physically for god's pleasure and go to heaven, not to " pursue happiness" because people like chrisitans and muslims know that " there is no happiness to pursue in this life, it's just a test and you will be judged after death, to finally enjoy eternal happiness in heaven or suffer eternal hell ", on the other hand, evil is purely generated by envy, hatred, mental disorders and illness, ignorance, greed ... and there you go, GOOD and EVIL debunked, there is no point of this anime anymore
At this point, I thought that it would've been better for Sekuro to have done suicide than getting caught by Magase. And just like that, she made me agree on her side without even me realizing.
This anime is hella dangerous like damn. Also I WAS RIGHT ABOUT THE ANIME COVER, how it's being ripped and magase is peeking through? The ripped parts go through the spots the characters seizaki is friends with, sekuro was chopped up, so it goes through her neck and body/messy too, the first guy that was seizakis assistant gets hanged (forgot ur name im sorry) so the rip goes around his neck, and Kujin his leg/upper area. Lol idk everyone might have known already and I'm slow
I get that Ai is the embodiment of *evil* and the anime is putting us through the concept of what's considered right and wrong, but i'm completely at a loss when I read that people say that Ai is just a figment of Zen's imagination, constantly making him battle between *good* and *evil*, if that's the case - how does one explain certain scenes such as this scene where we physically see Ai dismembering Sekuro. If she's merely a figment of his imagination how are supposed to interpret these moments? I mean, how would one explain Sekuro's death if all what "we" saw, was just a glimpse into his mind but in "reality" of the story, that's still how she died? ... It's bugging the heck out of me and I can't seem to make sense of it.
@@drakko1635 That's a very loooong list! When I think of anime I have in fond memory, then it's the anime Higurashi (there were two scenes involving nails and it hits really close to home since it's about abuse within family and friends, but also about paranoia). When I think of anime, I think less off, there's plenty, for instance, the infamous Gush-Gush-scene, or the killer bunnies of Blood C... When it comes to real life, the list gets ridiculously long, be it crime or medieval law... A few true crimes stuck in my memory. I will post them in a different comment in case it gets deleted and...
@@drakko1635 I'll warn you right now of reading it! In Austria, a girl was taken from her family after her abuse was so obvious that no one could deny it anymore, though until then, many suspected it, but no-one did anything about it. It later turned out that this little girl was among many other things R-ed by her own (biological and legal) mother with a plastic bottle filled with scalding hot water! There was a similar story in Japan of a young woman, who was abducted by her stalker, who happened to be a member of the Yakuza and the entire village turned a blind eye to her torture, where her accidental death was a mercy! The most disturbing true crime for me happened however in India, where a young couple entered a bus to drive home, but they never got there as the driver and a few of his friends beat both of them up and he had to watch her getting R-ed and I'm not talking about what you normally think of R, but they bit off parts of her and one of them fisted her into the uterus and later ripped it all out! She died of the resulting bloodloss soon-after. AFAIK, they were all executed, except for the youngest perp, who was still underage. This is one of the moments, where I really think that we should have the death penalty too... rather than letting such monsters out after 10 years max... I know that all these examples are violence against women, but bad things happened to men too. I could also talk about things I heard of African civil wars, or what happened in Lybia or Iraq under the now-deceased dictators, or what Latin American drug cartels are capable of... After reading all this sh!t, you just hate yourself for being one of these filthy humans...
@@edi9892 I'm at the point in life where what humans do to each other doesn't faze me but I'll K someone if they hurt an animal. Meh maybe I've seen a lot of stuff that it doesn't faze me or I'm a monster too that's what I thought all the time until I watched an anime called Violet Evergarden. It has a happy ending nobody dies a horrible but that was the first time I cried over a anime.
I hope people relise this is the same voice actor from higurashe who voiced shion , who also did the distarbing scene when she killed and torture sakto, she still got it
More people need to watch this anime. However, my only complaint about it so far is Magase’s “skill” but even that doesn’t get in the way of the suspense this anime has created all throughout its episodes so far. Hopefully they explain her skill or background more eventually.
So glad to hear it got several nominations at the anime awards. lets see if it will win any. Probably my favorite anime of the year, behind Vinland Saga
Some people just really don’t make it through the chopping block. But in all seriousness, at this point, Seizaki should think about considering a new career choice. Preferably out of the country.
Hopefully, Sekiro has not sufffered so much. She fainted while Magase cut her left leg (you cannot hear her secreaming when her right leg and arm cut), then I hope she did not suffer too much and can Rest In Peace.
Its the fact that it happens in the real world more often than we think that scares me. In my country I’ve seen street children that have either had their limbs torn off in accidents or have had their limbs cut off by bad people. It’s reasons like that I hate visiting my home country
Seizaki's answer should not be to delve into the motives of evil. To do so would be to dye himself in evil's color through the knowledge. There is a reason we consistently and constantly quote Nietzsche with "Beware that, when fighting monsters, you yourself do not become a monster... for when you gaze long into the abyss. The abyss gazes also into you." Contemplating evil will only make him take more evil actions. Do not contemplate evil's motives; simply exterminate it. The proverb "all it takes for evil to succeed is for good men to do nothing" applies here. Kill her. He has more than enough evidence to justify it with that video.
In so doing though, he would be doing evil. So you're suggesting that he doesn't think about evil and instead does evil. That's a little questionable to say the least, as is Nietzsche's stance really. Understanding other people's motivations for doing evil doesn't necessarily entail you'll be tempted to do the same, it can be quite the opposite actually. The most dangerous thing of all is to not think about evil, to not wonder about the motivations of the people who do evil. The banality of evil is very dangerous and it is the direct result of people not thinking about it.
@@Camustang A person who callously and willingly takes lives, or convinces others to take their own lives, with no justification such as self-defense, has forfeited all rights to continue living. Ai Magase falls under this umbrella. Understanding their motivation doesn't do anything to reverse those action; they deserve death. Killing them would not be an evil act. If you think otherwise...well, I supposed you have the freedom to be wrong.
Ah but you see, there is utilitarianism which means that what is right is what brings happines to the larger amount of people. In killing her, he would prevent others from dying which would be good.
There's no such thing as evil. People call evil that which is of extremely distrubing nature. Evil is an illusion though. What's the point in dwelling into the illusion?
@@AerDun There is such a thing as evil. You will never be able to convince me otherwise, as I have literally seen and been affected by evil actions from evil people. Your assertion that it is an illusion is the highest treason against humanity I can think of.
@@GenUrobutcher The ending does not matter in this show. Because the author had philosophical idea that he wanted to deliver to the audience through out the show. and he was successful to deliver this message in the last scene where two opposite poles faced each other. When Seizaki's and Magase's philosophies face each other in the end. However, I see where are you coming from. because when I watched the show in 2020 I kind of wanted more of a moral ending like the one that monster have.
@@yuliyy__ that's true... i never expected her to be as evil as she is. i can't wait for this anime to continue. would like to see if he really tries the "dark side"
I am sure that his words is more than enough for a reason to capture magase Ai, The problem part is not proving her crime The problem is capturing this evil woman who can murder people with just whispering
When I saw the marks I was holy shit and when I saw the axe receipt I was like HOLY SHIT and then when it got further I went FUCKFUCKFUCK and the I skipped the entire scene, turned volume off, watched it without volume half covering the screen and now I'm trying to bring myself to watch it with sound that's how disturbing this shit is
I'm didn't turn it off but this 5 mins was able to make me cry.. it's the feeling when you know someone so well and they're just dead right infront of your eyes..and when you're able to imagine and feel the pain doubles the pain..
It was good up until this point that the anime went down hill for me. Down hill from being a 7 or 8 to a 5 because I felt that it didn't finish properly but hey that's just me. Love this scene and it's one of the best conversation of what is Good and Evil. And in reality she's really do have a point about why is killing someone is considered evil. She makes you think about what is morality as a whole and not just on fact of evil is evil and that's that. Something that really falls short near the end. It's episode 8-12 that caused me to drag my feet in wanting to finish the anime. Would I recommend this? No, not unless you want to watch an anime that had potential of being good to average.
actually good and evil are clear, we all know that stealing and killing and cheating is bad, and no amount of influence will ever change that, while donating to charity, helping an old lady cross the street and helping your brothers with their studies are good deeds, if you're not helpful to society then why the hell are you alive ?
So actually you got a point because just anime writer's choose mythology you know johan Libert it's beast 7 head 10 horns other things this magase i can't research but I think beauty thing in mythology
This anime really gives me psycho pass season 1 feels Ai Magase and Shogo Makishima are alike and shinya kogami Seizaki are alike. Both fighting for justice and revenge for killing their partners.
Same ep 7 even though alot of death made for a intresting watch i was soooo excited for ep 8 plus the rest of the series and it just went down hill throwing the president of the United states and shoving peoples philosophys down our throats while ignoring Magase and Zens conflict until the final episode
