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Bach Cello Suites Talk: Why so many bowing options in the Prelude of Suite 1 

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Bar/measure 1-4: The many bowing options & the history behind it.
This video is part of my Bach Cello Suites Project - Talks, Lessons & Recordings on patreon: / georgcello - click on "collection": The Bach Cello Suites
Content:
0.01 min - Intro & terminology: bars for: measures / Takte
0.33 min - The manuscripts and important prints
2.38 min - Starting with the first chord as a slur
- reflected also in the Menuet & Sarabande
4.40 min - The group starting with 4 slurred
5.36 min - The downbow rule
8.18 min - Correcting was difficult
9.04 min - Copies for people the composer knew
9.33 min - Anna Magdalena's slurs
12.28 min - The Hugo Becker edition
12.54 min - The new bow
14.51 min - Grutzmacher & Casals
16.45 min - The Group starting with 3 slurred
18.16 min - The Dotzauer edition
20.22 min - Other titles of the Suites: Solos, Etudes, Sonatas
20.57 min - A change of time: Baroque to Romantic
24.03 min - Conclusion: Quite likely, 4 slurred is what Bach wrote
25.47 min - The tradition of schools
29.40 min - The never being used 4 manuscripts & How mistakes could have happened
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The manuscripts and prints mentioned:
Manuscript A - Anna Magdalena, Bach's second wife, c 1727-31
Manuscript B - Johann Peter Kellner, organist & flute player, 1726
Manuscript C - Part 1: Schober, Part 2 Anon. between 1750-1799
Manuscript D - Anon, c 1780-1800
L.P. Norblin, Cotelle, Paris 1824
L.P. Norblin, H.A. Probst, Leipzig 1825 (same as above)
F. Dotzauer, Leipzig 1826, 1st and 2nd edition
A. Doerffel, Bach Gesellschaft, Leipzig, 1879
F. Gruetzmacher, 2nd edition, Leipzig, c 1880
H. Becker, Leipzig 1911
D. Alexanian, Paris 1929
E. Kurtz, 1983
P. Casals, New York, 1989
W. Icking, 1997 (The edition I used before I wrote my own. Available for free on IMSLP Petrucci)
Baerenreiter, Kassel, 2000
For all 80 editions of the Bach Cello Suites up to 2000 see my website: www.georgcello....
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Recordings of Prelude 1: (all patreon links are public except lessons)
G.M. - Prelude 1 starting 3 slurred as in Manuscript C, 2008 - • Bach Prelude Cello Sui...
G.M. - Prelude 1 for our bow today, Becker (8 slurred), 2011 - • J.S.Bach Prelude G maj...
G.M. - Prelude 1, Manuscript D, 4 slurred, 2018 - • Bach Cello Suite 1 - P...
G.M. - Prelude 1 for our bow today (8 slurred), 2024 - / bach-prelude-no-92310711
G.M. - Prelude 1 as original as possible, standard A, modern bow, 2024 - / prelude-g-major-92494459
G.M. - Prelude 1 on ancient Renaissance cello, 2024 - • Bach Prelude of Cello ...
Also on patreon - 3 Lessons on Prelude of Suite No 1 :
Left hand - / bach-suite-no-1-91850792
Baroque bowing starting 4 slurred - / bow-lesson-to-1-91564035
Modern bowing starting 8 slurred - / lesson-to-of-no-91382259
* Bach Cello Suites Talks: Why so many bowing options in the Prelude of Suite 1 -
/ bach-talk-suite-90877271
Talk: Prelude of Suite No 1 - Bar/measure 26 : B or Bb? - / bach-talk-suite-90876185
* The sheet music of Bach Prelude from Cello Suite No.1 is also part of "My CELLO METHOD" Volume 4 - Gems from the vast Cello Repertoire of Music within Positions 1 - 4
* For My CELLO METHOD visit - / georgcello - click "shop" for sheet music / for the online cello course go to "collections".
Lesson 1-10 from is offered as a free trial, sheet music attached.
* Sheet music also available from my website - www.georgcello....
* or Sheet Music Plus - www.sheetmusic...
* For the 6 Suites for cello solo by J.S. Bach see - studio.youtube...

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Комментарии : 2   
@tomsaxton970
@tomsaxton970 8 месяцев назад
I am curious which version you prefer? Interesting video. I don't like the Becker with all slurs. To me it doesn't sound baroque. I am glad you mentioned choking up on the bow for this kind of music. I do ut often. I find it increases my agility. I have a baroque bow too. But if I don't have it with me, I use this method with my modern bow. I have bought many of your books to use with my students. I really like them. But some are very difficult to read (la folia is an example). I hope that some day, you might release them in computer generated script that is easier to read.
@georgcello
@georgcello 8 месяцев назад
Well, with a baroque bow or a modified bowhold I prefer the 4 slurred version, with normal bow the 8 slurred. I am over the fast 3 slurred without interpretation! - Will look at the Folia variations. Writing by hand makes you think again as you go. I find so many new editions even with reputed publishers which have more mistakes, thoughtless fingerings and bowings compared to pre music editing programs.
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