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Welcome back to another episode of The Viall Files: Bachelor Recap Edition! We’re back with journalist and friend of show, Elizabeth Wagmeister, to discuss the third episode of Zach’s season. We start out by covering the week’s Bachelor Tea, including some headlines about Nick and why The Bachelor isn’t concerned with keeping up with Love is Blind. We dive into this week’s episode and discuss Kaity’s one on one sleepover date (what actually happened, and did they sleep in that tent?), the Bachelor Bowl 5, and Aly’s skydiving adventure. Also, the cocktail-turned-pool party, several women self-eliminating, and the shocking final rose given out. Why is Zach the ideal Bachelor, who will turn into the villain now that Christina is gone, and what can we expect when travel begins next week?
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@diwwin
@diwwin Год назад
Did nick really say no one’s like their bachelor since me?
@-Lily7415
@-Lily7415 Год назад
😂😂😂 He needs to check himself
@lifeisabeautifulrisk
@lifeisabeautifulrisk Год назад
Maybe not the worst bachelor (and that’s being nice) but definitely has become the most petulant, narcissistic and annoying contestant to come from bachelor nation.
@sarahjay720
@sarahjay720 Год назад
the idea that men are boring is actually important to touch on. masculine men are often "boring" meaning consistent, even tempered, and generally not the one in the relationship being the fun and spontaneous energy to the dynamic. but like Zach a good man will have strong integrity, bring safety, reliability, emotional strength and stability. Boring can actually be very attractive once you realize how much value the boring men bring !!
@brittanymcclellan6091
@brittanymcclellan6091 Год назад
I 100% do not get Nicks hype over Brianna lol
@jeanniebower2011
@jeanniebower2011 Год назад
100% ...!?! I agree she is beautiful, but I haven't seen her show a lot of the depth he seems to see?
@jadedjimmy
@jadedjimmy Год назад
Right? Haha he’s quick to criticize her like “she’s a fake cryer”, “she’s just playing the game”, etc, yet still insists that she’s just too good for the show for some reason? 😂
@OctoberGirl16
@OctoberGirl16 Год назад
She’s beautiful but she didn’t seem nice.
@Alex.andria62
@Alex.andria62 Год назад
Are you really shocked? Mind you he was shanae’s biggest supporter on Clayton’s season and she was just as bad lmao
@lorikwhittaker
@lorikwhittaker Год назад
I don't get it either. Maybe they are right and she was playing a game. But, what if it really is just how it seems which is that she is insecure and gets upset at the littlest things. Seems like you would have to walk on eggshells if you were dating her which is no fun.
@gabrielleholloman3292
@gabrielleholloman3292 Год назад
Recap starts at 50:30
@dr.christopherjohnson3955
@dr.christopherjohnson3955 Год назад
Hello, I hope you're safe over there? I hope this year brings happiness, prosperity, and love all over the world, I would love 💚us to be good friends in honesty and in trust if you don't mind. I'm Doctor Christopher Johnson from San Francisco, California, where are you from if I may ask?
@marisamartinez1477
@marisamartinez1477 Год назад
THANK YOU lol
@genesiss440
@genesiss440 Год назад
Thank you!!!
@kendall2273
@kendall2273 Год назад
Thank you!!!
@gj1695
@gj1695 Год назад
Thank you!!!
@alexp2915
@alexp2915 Год назад
Nick has talked in the past about low character moments; I think the way Brianna treated Christina was one such moment. Christina gave her such a great apology, even though she had nothing to apologize for, and Brianna responded ungraciously and proceeded to sulk and go around and spread negativity about Christina.
@sabrinagalindo1855
@sabrinagalindo1855 Год назад
Fedq😊
@assyrianprincess3
@assyrianprincess3 Год назад
I thought it was funny how we were loving Christina and Hating Brianna, but by the time Brianna leaves it ends up being like “ok i dont like bri but I respect her leaving on her terms” but hate Christina
@laura2218
@laura2218 Год назад
I don’t understand the hype for Brianna. She was constantly trying to cover her insecurities by blaming other people for her feelings, and she came across as very whiny. She also looked super grumpy the entire time. I’m so glad she left.
@Lakers121
@Lakers121 Год назад
They’re talking about Kaitlyn as if she wasn’t on a podcast being ASKED about the bachelor over and over
@laurendonais3787
@laurendonais3787 Год назад
The irony of Nick labeling Clayton as “selfish and inconsiderate” as he cuts off Amanda’s always compassionate perspective - this time as she also discloses her neurodivergence and gives voice to the struggles so many of us with ADHD have with executive functioning. Of course we don’t know for certain that that’s what motivated Clayton’s decision to post with Rachel but even if it was what Nick is convinced was premeditated selfishness and inconsideration, I continue to scratch my head at how quickly and easily Nick doles out harsh criticisms of the exact type of behavior he unapologetically acts out himself - make the self-serving Tik Tok of Victoria and Greg that confirmed the spoiler make sense. I’m certainly not a Johnny apologist but damn do I wish someone in Nick’s inside circle would have an honest conversation with him about all his hypocrisy and entitlement. It just keeps giving *low-character* Ken energy.
@sarahlang2119
@sarahlang2119 Год назад
Is it Ken or Kevin?
@meglansaw9526
@meglansaw9526 Год назад
Unapologetic behavior is basically people not wanting to take accountability for their hurtful actions. I don't understand how HE could say that Clayton is selfish and inconsiderate... is he projecting on himself. Yes, Clayton made some poor choices on his season... who doesn't? That man was obliterated on social media and I don't think he needs the salt that Nick's remarks rub in his wounds. He honestly seems like one of the more selfLESS Bachelors. People who have beef with him for being honest with the women need to stop and think about it. This show is so focused on formula that people forget the lead and contestants are human beings. Clayton was being Clayton and not Clayton playing the Bachelor. I love that he is not going the influencer route and rather use his platform to speak about mental health. It's rare for a fit, tall, handsome man to reveal they even admit they're struggling. He is selflessly helping many and I have a lot more respect for that than hosting a podcast where judgements are placed on people and aired to the world as if they are facts. Not very gentlemanly.
@Scorpioadvisor
@Scorpioadvisor Год назад
I think it was a bummer that Christina made that comment to charity. She was my favorite until that moment. I would've hoped she could turn it around if he kept her. But, he was clearly shook by what Brianna said to him.
@SupernaturalLove100
@SupernaturalLove100 Год назад
I don’t think he was THAT shook; I think he just wanted to send her ass home and used Brianna to do so when he just didn’t wanna b a baby daddy and couldn’t b upfront abt it.
@Jeff-tp5rc
@Jeff-tp5rc Год назад
Why is Nick putting Brianna on such a pedestal? To me she came across very insecure and immature, with how she took offense to Christina's joke, didn't receive Christina's A+ apology well, and continued to throw Christina under the bus before she left. Nick hasn't explained why he's so impressed with Brianna beyond "she's pretty."
@SupernaturalLove100
@SupernaturalLove100 Год назад
Sometimes pretty is all it takes……
@peidan86
@peidan86 Год назад
He doesn’t know. He just likes supporting the girls who act childishly because he’s dating a child.
@iwerner9836
@iwerner9836 Год назад
"brianna is way too good for this franchise" nick says, as her one and only notable action on the show was playing into the most common of bachelor contestant tropes: the "so and so hurt my feelings :((((("
@ageofechochambers9469
@ageofechochambers9469 Год назад
The show is trash 🗑 , honestly no self respecting women should be on it .
@OctoberGirl16
@OctoberGirl16 Год назад
Nick seems to be basing his assessment on her looks alone. What has she done to be “too good” for the franchise other than have an… “I’m better than you” attitude?
@Cjtenderloin
@Cjtenderloin Год назад
Describing this as the “grounding” season is spot on. I’m actually enjoying the focus on contestant character development. The last few seasons I felt like I didn’t know any of the contestants outside of how they argue and cry
@MarilynCarr
@MarilynCarr Год назад
They seem to be getting rid of contestants that have a lot of followers. I also wonder if this was the easiest time to bail on Christina because he's not ready for "fatherhood" without looking like a jerk.
@Buildindie
@Buildindie Год назад
being on Chris' podcast after expressing her concern about him not calling Kaitlyn back is not performative. It's a natural consequence of expressing her concern, Chris saying hey let's do a podcast.
@sheakiely6401
@sheakiely6401 Год назад
Every season people say he’s boring what exactly does an exciting bachelor do? I mean who out of all of them has been exciting. I think nice traditional guys are getting this “ boring”label. I like Zach
@alswonderland
@alswonderland Год назад
Aly relayed Kaitlyn’s quotes completely out of context. She didn’t say any of this about Nick in a bad/negative way. She was just giving some behind the scenes scoop about her producer experience. Not that she wasn’t into Nick.
@ariellewht
@ariellewht Год назад
Zack isn’t boring , TODAYS culture is BORED. Because I honestly wasn’t going to watch but just caught up today, and Zack is literally Sean Lowe Bachelor season . And we all LOVE SEAN. But when Sean was Bachelor, it was a different time. It wasn’t about popularity it was about realness. And Zack is very real, more “nerdy” but just like Sean I actually AM very NOW attracted to Zack. Because he IS a MANNN, lol . Zack as a contestant got lost in the sauce but someone as mature and emotionally mature as Zack is he needed to be Bachelor for us to see it. Im enjoying him as Bachelor. It makes me wish I was a contestant because I, myself just really want a GOOD guy like Zack. 💗 Women (really , girls honestly) who aren’t into Zack as Bachelor , themselves aren’t ready for a real relationship. There isn’t anything to not like.
@TheJakeMarc
@TheJakeMarc Год назад
Completely disagree that Brianna never liked him. It was the other way around. It's why she spent 3 weeks crying that she wasn't being validated. How could you possibly come to the conclusion she didn't like him? She just simply gave up when she realized he didn't like her. There's 29 other women, if he liked her he would have fought for her to let her guard down. She didn't so he moved on.
@emiliasvensson6125
@emiliasvensson6125 Год назад
Agreed
@SupernaturalLove100
@SupernaturalLove100 Год назад
She didn’t seem to have much interest in letting her guard down tho when all she did was cry or complain when they got together. Why would he want to fight for her when it was always some negative energy? I do believe she liked him but that she was mostly on the show to create a platform / boost her business
@sweetenercarly
@sweetenercarly Год назад
i have a crush on zach, i find his directness super attractive. so yasssssssssss
@sarahlang2119
@sarahlang2119 Год назад
Sort of agree but also is he sounding a bit harsh for instance with Bailey? I mean yeah let her go but maybe be more kind?
@saracalvin9173
@saracalvin9173 Год назад
How is Kaitlyn going on Chris Harrison's podcast performance? Genuinely don't understand - it's the same thing as you having Raven from Love is Blind on yours - to discuss drama and scandal between her & her ex... Nick, you even said, "this is the only podcast Raven has gone on to discuss this drama." It's the same stuff & it's really not that big of a deal. You all want clicks.
@OctoberGirl16
@OctoberGirl16 Год назад
Why doesn’t the franchise reach out to Arie and Jason? I know Sean is the only lead to marry the woman he chose but Jason and Arie can certainly give good insights into how to avoid making the mistakes they made. Jason and Molly and Arie and Lauren are happily married couples from the franchise too.
@OctoberGirl16
@OctoberGirl16 Год назад
I personally would be interested in why Jason and Arie first chose the women they did only to almost immediately realize the person they really loved (and are still with) was someone else. I’m sure their thought process and what they went through (what influenced their decisions etc) could be helpful to other Bachelors. After all had they chosen Molly and Lauren to start with we’d now have THREE “successful” Bachelor leads instead of just Sean!!
@brittanymcclellan6091
@brittanymcclellan6091 Год назад
@@OctoberGirl16 I remember Aries family really loving Becca and I think he felt a lot of pressure to choose her
@sarahlang2119
@sarahlang2119 Год назад
Unfortunatly they're never going to bring in Matt and Rachael, or Peter and Kelley. Because they would warn the incoming lead not to do it
@sarahlang2119
@sarahlang2119 Год назад
@@OctoberGirl16 let's count Matt and Rachael as a success too! Though that was despite producers, not because of producers
@OctoberGirl16
@OctoberGirl16 Год назад
Briana seemed shallow and totally self centered. At least Christina was fun.
@TheJakeMarc
@TheJakeMarc Год назад
No she just seemed insecure and so unsure of herself which ultimately made it so she never had a chance.
@0104blackpearl
@0104blackpearl Год назад
I personally think Zack is refreshing ☺️
@0104blackpearl
@0104blackpearl Год назад
47:44 Is Nick referring to when Kaitlyn requested a song at a wedding that reminded him of them and he happened to be there?!
@rebeccapatterson8049
@rebeccapatterson8049 Год назад
Happy bday Amanda! I love your insights the most.
@EllDuclos
@EllDuclos Год назад
I found what Brianna did to be extremely petty. She didn’t have the connection so she left and sabotaged someone else on her way out. Lame. I loved Christina and still do. The girls insecurities showed big time. Christina wasn’t even that bad, she just spoke her feelings about Zach and the girls found it annoying. Who cares.
@karlabc9251
@karlabc9251 Год назад
Totally! I don’t think she did anything in a malicious way like Shenay did for example. She just literally never read the room when she spoke her feeling and thoughts about herself. If not made the woman feel insecure I think that’s their problem and not Christina’s 🤷🏻‍♀️
@emiliasvensson6125
@emiliasvensson6125 Год назад
Lol
@karlabc9251
@karlabc9251 Год назад
53:52 omg my husband totally said this guy is like a Disney Prince Charming. 😂
@meganmcdonald376
@meganmcdonald376 Год назад
Kind of annoying how Nick thinks Zac should’ve kept Brianna just because she’s so interesting. no problem with Brianna, she seems like a great person but I don’t think Zak should keep somebody unless he is genuinely interested in them.
@emiliasvensson6125
@emiliasvensson6125 Год назад
Yeah 100%
@nicholecampbell6577
@nicholecampbell6577 Год назад
I find Brianna fake AF with no personality. She’s stiff, insecure and just not fun. I don’t think the problem was that she didn’t like him, I think she wanted attention and validation and he wasn’t giving it to her.
@claudiawrenn6507
@claudiawrenn6507 Год назад
christina was definitely hammered this entire episode 😅 i’m sad she left tbh she’s hilarious
@JamieMcgee518
@JamieMcgee518 Год назад
How was Zack labeled , " The Most Boring Bachelor " BEFORE episode ONE ? .... Did the Bachelor Franchise label him , " Boring " ?
@lboston1294
@lboston1294 Год назад
Nick!!! people have loved bachelors since your season, my friend 🤣
@jillkubitschek2145
@jillkubitschek2145 Год назад
I really like Elizabeth’s takes when she’s on!
@CC12203
@CC12203 Год назад
Great recap discussions and guest. 👏 Production did have a cam inside the tent (since we saw a moment of footage), so either nothing happened or it was so boring that there was no reason to show it. I am wondering if Zach may say up front to the ladies going into fantasy suites that he won’t be getting intimate with anyone. Except if that were so there probably would have been a teaser in the promos… Also, there have been prior sleepovers on the show. Molly and Jason in a tent. Ben F on Ashley H’s season (JP was livid)…
@sarahlang2119
@sarahlang2119 Год назад
Im pretty sure Ben and Ashley stayed in separate rooms
@jmsmako
@jmsmako Год назад
crying bc nick really cant talk about rachel in a positive note 😭😭😭 saying she lost the A- status overnight like what did the girl do to you
@jodiemartinez2636
@jodiemartinez2636 Год назад
He said they all do, not just Rachel
@cc13e22
@cc13e22 Год назад
Brianna is pretty girl, but I feel like she just didn't get the attention she wanted... and then immediately started complaining. Said it the first episode, and I'll say it again- Kaity is my favorite for Zach so far!
@6127106598rm
@6127106598rm Год назад
There was an episode that molly spent the night with Jason.
@Mark32115
@Mark32115 Год назад
Really good show.
@jodiemartinez2636
@jodiemartinez2636 Год назад
I might be in the minority, but I am not a fan of Brianna. Also, I really loved Christina. 🤷
@alexp2915
@alexp2915 Год назад
Same!
@pamscoggins49
@pamscoggins49 Год назад
Ditto, until she showed low Eq
@lizspence4861
@lizspence4861 Год назад
I was not excited about Zach and I still wouldn't call him exciting. With that said who he is as a person is so impressive that you can't not like him. He seems to be so mature and self aware. Exciting only last so long. He is the guy that is your friend and you don't like "that way" at first but the more you get to know him you fall for him.
@meglansaw9526
@meglansaw9526 Год назад
I was not excited that he was chosen for the Bachelor but I think he is the most level headed lead that has ever been on the show. I love his candid (not cruel) honesty.
@Sazaralove
@Sazaralove Год назад
Nick there is no way you think you were the last liked bachelor or that you were ever liked at all?? Lol
@kristinkolnacki2441
@kristinkolnacki2441 Год назад
Of course he thinks that! His ego is so big I’m surprised it can fit through their studio door 🫠
@ningyding
@ningyding Год назад
Omg I thought you guys were talking about Rachel Lindsay on the trip and I was so confused for 10 mins, like where’s Bryan? Why would she date Clayton?! then I remembered about Rachel Reccia….
@bartrese
@bartrese Год назад
Literally, I was so confused
@Sazaralove
@Sazaralove Год назад
LMAO me too I still didn’t think of Rachel R until this comment … I guess I’m just used to hearing Gabby and Rachel’s names together
@iwerner9836
@iwerner9836 Год назад
why is nick so bitter over zack
@ashleyb6545
@ashleyb6545 Год назад
hes more and more bitter in general its jarring lol
@gj1695
@gj1695 Год назад
@@ashleyb6545 So true. I see Nick at a cafe in LA he frequents and he has this arrogant, defensive air about him. Bad vibes.
@kris-022
@kris-022 Год назад
I want Zach to be my financial advisor yes lol
@mariem3429
@mariem3429 Год назад
50:25 Nick's foot 🤣😂🤣😂🤪
@kimwarner8848
@kimwarner8848 Год назад
I never post but agree with the comments about the Bachelor franchise not going away. In my late 50s so probably NOT the standard demographic for the show. However, the Bachelor got me into "love story" type reality TV and I now watch Love Island, Temptation Island, Farmer Takes a Wife (Australia), Married at First Sight, etc. The Bachelor remains unique in that it's the traditional, fairytale romance story with beautiful travel destinations and romantic, over the top dates. It's also the "show with beautiful people" - not sure how to say this but the Bachelor casts a certain look and demographic - I think that's OK because the other shows cast differently and therefore provide the overall diversity in the reality TV industry that the Bachelor alone doesn't target.
@ttnbear1142
@ttnbear1142 Год назад
For Nick to just bring up what reminds him of a story back then about Kaitlyn and him will be a talking point in itself ( even though he didn't tell it) bc now it leaves it to other people's imagination to what it could be.
@chelseygarrett4221
@chelseygarrett4221 Год назад
Yeah and I don't think Kaitlin was saying I would have never been into Nick. It sounds like what she was saying was they made him seem like a non life partner because he was the "sexy" one.
@friezenfan
@friezenfan Год назад
Where have the black boxs gone? Normally they block out bikini bottoms but I haven't see that this season.
@nataliebuckley9313
@nataliebuckley9313 Год назад
I just realized, if I'm not mistaken, all of the initial AFR, live show women are now gone. 😯
@mrsjessicasmith
@mrsjessicasmith Год назад
I think Brooklyn was there
@kathyphillips5630
@kathyphillips5630 Год назад
Molly and Jason Mesnick had a early over night in a tent and she walked into the mansion the next morning in his clothes. Years later she said they did stay there but mainly talked and made out a little.
@dr_power.
@dr_power. Год назад
Too many commercials! Hurts my ears 🤪
@melissacampbell957
@melissacampbell957 Год назад
I agree with Ally for sure about hairless men
@Beeemurph
@Beeemurph Год назад
Let’s not forget Clare got engaged to Benoit after bachelor winter games! 😅
@sarahlang2119
@sarahlang2119 Год назад
Well she couldn't exactly say no on stage and on camera right?
@snarkycharlies
@snarkycharlies Год назад
Where's Jim?
@npistor2878
@npistor2878 Год назад
Mat James was my favourite, charismatic, well spoken and caute
@friezenfan
@friezenfan Год назад
If Zach doesn't pick Brooklyn i want her to be the bachelorette. I like her.
@msjannayvonne
@msjannayvonne Год назад
I 100% get Nicks hype over Brianna lol (also she left on her own, he did not send her home)
@ariellemiller2714
@ariellemiller2714 Год назад
Me tooo she’s a young black businesswoman she literally made her own makeup company and that is AMAZING and I loveddd that she sent herself home
@oc2538
@oc2538 Год назад
To me, Zach is the bachelor we need to get a real successful relationship. To see some romance. Let's not act like Ben Higgins and Clayton were interesting, they were both boring in terms of personality. I think Arie was great, sorry Nick. And if you want drama...to me Juan Pablo was the best. I loved Juan Pablo's season, it was messy. It was clear Chris, Producers and bachelor alum hated him. They were so mad he refused to propose and wouldn't say I love you as if he could be bullied into proposing.
@karlabc9251
@karlabc9251 Год назад
Can someone please do some research and say what the heck Nick wants to and does not share about what happened between him and Kaitlyn 1.5 yr after season that will invalidate her comment 😮 I want TEA
@angelapolly1
@angelapolly1 Год назад
Seems like Nick has some kind of jealousy towards Zach the way he’s trying to make fun of him. Ick.
@OctoberGirl16
@OctoberGirl16 Год назад
Is there anyone left from the five women he met on ATFR?
@friezenfan
@friezenfan Год назад
Wasn't Brooklyn from that?
@stellamaurina1611
@stellamaurina1611 Год назад
Zach is a suave Forest Gump
@liv5776
@liv5776 Год назад
55:29
@jetsetmonkey9555
@jetsetmonkey9555 Год назад
It’s disturbing that some of you are part of Nick’s cult. 😂
@tobeyc2962
@tobeyc2962 Год назад
Zach's interactions/conversations are boring. Zach is mind-numbingly boring and I find myself zoning out when he speaks... That being said I respect that he doesn't seem to be swayed by the producers. SIDENOTE!!! Nick's right he was the last f&*kable Bachelor we had. pre-Bachelor Matt James was too but as soon as he became the Bachelor he weirdly lost all his sex appeal
@sarahlang2119
@sarahlang2119 Год назад
Agree
@lolawilson6873
@lolawilson6873 Год назад
Brianna is the definition of emotionally immature.
@skylarkblue4853
@skylarkblue4853 Год назад
For me, Zach is a cross between Ricky Nelson and Jim Carey.
@peidan86
@peidan86 Год назад
So funny to listen to their stupid idiotic projections after seeing what happens in the show. They get it so wrong so much and yet they’re so confidant about their presumptions.
@fid1223
@fid1223 Год назад
Christina as a bachelorette? Completely disagree
@meglansaw9526
@meglansaw9526 Год назад
I try not to post negative things but your comment about no one being "pumped" about a Bachelor after you is extremely pompous and inaccurate. I was not overly pumped when you were announced the lead since you'd already been on numerous seasons of Bach franchise shows. Ben Higgins was the GBOAT and it's nearly impossible to find a better specimen of a man. I think people were so endeared to him because he was relatable, thoughtful, and humble. A pompous Bachelor seems like an unproductive choice, as they are in love with themselves. And if that person is such a hot commodity, why do they even need to come on the show at all? I guess this journey got you where you are but having a slice of humble pie every once in awhile might lessen the pretentiousness that keeps some viewers from watching.
@tristamarie7115
@tristamarie7115 Год назад
Zach seems like he wants a traditional relationship, which means he needs to be decisive in order to attract a more traditional/submissive woman. Any woman who approaches him asking for clarity/where they stand, gets sent home.
@dr.christopherjohnson3955
@dr.christopherjohnson3955 Год назад
Hello, I hope you're safe over there? I hope this year brings happiness, prosperity, and love all over the world, I would love 💚us to be good friends in honesty and in trust if you don't mind. I'm Doctor Christopher Johnson from San Francisco, California, where are you from if I may ask?
@Cjtenderloin
@Cjtenderloin Год назад
I agree partially. I think because he’s earnestly buying into the process, the girls he’s not connecting with can feel it and see when he’s gravitating towards the women he’s actually interested. I don’t think he can successfully play the diplomatic bachelor and pretend to like women he doesn’t.
@tjc2121
@tjc2121 Год назад
Well another side to this is that it's too early in the relationship to get so serious. Every conversation he had with Brianna was on the negative side. And he has only talked to Bailey 3 times and she's talking about their relationship regressing. He's probably thinking if it's this hard/dramatic in the beginning of a relationship then it probably isn't gonna get any easier. I don't think he was into Brianna and I think he liked other girls better than Bailey so he'd rather not invest any more time
@sarahlang2119
@sarahlang2119 Год назад
I disagree. He's just choosing not to lead them on. Other bachelors would say the "right thing" then let them go at rose ceremonies without having a proper conversation. That said, I think he could be a little kinder in how he speaks to them, e.g Bailey
@carver877
@carver877 Год назад
🥇
@-Lily7415
@-Lily7415 Год назад
Nicks season IMO was lackluster and a big disappointment
@chelseygarrett4221
@chelseygarrett4221 Год назад
Me and most of the people at my work that watch the show completely skipped his season halfway through.
@alexp2915
@alexp2915 Год назад
1:41:51 I think Nick makes a great point here. It seems like guys are in an impossible position these days. Look at Aziz Ansari who got cancelled all because he and a woman made out and she later said she felt obligated, but she never expressed that to him in the moment and he had no way of reading her mind. Yet when a guy asks for consent before going in for a kiss, he gets labeled as boring or unromantic. I’d rather be called boring than have my entire life ruined over one brief moment of misreading someone. Unrelated: Love Zach rocking the chest hair! 🔥
@angelapolly1
@angelapolly1 Год назад
1:16:56 Keep up with someone like Brianna? That makes zero sense. She was dry and boring and fake. Good riddance.
@tlc7784
@tlc7784 Год назад
Let’s see how Bed of Roses or Dave Neal clips this episode, to clickbait that Nick is still salty. KB throws grenades at Nick, and then she wonders why he wouldn’t speak kindly about her? She’s always the one to start something with Nick. It’s only bc of Jason actually liking Nick that she was softer to him these last few years. She blames Shawn for MAKING her bash Nick back then. Truth is in the pudding. No Shawn around. Yet lookie lookie, KB is still bashing Nick. But she’s always golden no matter what. And Shawn and Nick are the jerks. Bye Felicia.
@jennifergravitt7872
@jennifergravitt7872 Год назад
Did you listen to it? He didn't shade Nick at all.
@tlc7784
@tlc7784 Год назад
@@jennifergravitt7872 No. I stopped giving Dave my views bc he just clips everything, and I usually disagree with his commentary. There’s plenty of other clip type YT channels that have real insight into bachelor tea.
@sarahlang2119
@sarahlang2119 Год назад
@@tlc7784 I think Dave Neal is by far the best out there.
@candy07831
@candy07831 Год назад
How exactly has Kaitlyn “bashed” Nick?
@kristinkolnacki2441
@kristinkolnacki2441 Год назад
Kaitlyn didn’t bash Nick. She even said she was a little hurt by him bashing her when his book came out, how he felt used by her.
@llandon16
@llandon16 Год назад
cringe from KB :/
@jadedjimmy
@jadedjimmy Год назад
Kaitlyn Bristowe will literally do whatever it takes to stay relevant, 8 years after her season lol
@seven92023
@seven92023 Год назад
Pretty much most of them will do the same and are doing the same. Attention is the currency.
@jadedjimmy
@jadedjimmy Год назад
@@seven92023 true
@klmcishere
@klmcishere Год назад
Your comment got me thinking ... when did K. Bristowe & when did N. Viall start their podcasts? Looks like K.B.=2017 & N.V.=2019. Seems both individuals have stayed true to who they've shown themselves to be from their beginnings with the Bachelor franchises. They both have other businesses in addition to their podcasts and both have stayed connected to the Bachelor, so like them or not, they're both relevant in different ways. I would say both will do what it takes to stay relevant, as most do in their respective fields/careers.
@tlc7784
@tlc7784 Год назад
This is a podcast beef instigated by Bed of Roses Pod. They hate Nick, and sent KB and incomplete clip of what Nick said about being a pawn in KB’s season. Bc if she had heard the whole thing, she wouldn’t have thought Nick was still butt hurt, and bash her. Nick is salty about KB right now for entirely different reasons. She had Katie on her pod during the Katie Vs Nick drama, and was Team Katie, and Team Blake. Blatantly. And being catty towards Nick like when she was Shawn’s mouthpiece for bashing Nick during their relationship. So KB started this NEW beef. And Bed of Roses ignited it more. Now Nick is replying. Follow it back…the drama. Everyone is responding to curated clips of things said.
@sarahlang2119
@sarahlang2119 Год назад
She is an entrepreneur worth millions. Podcast, wine line, etc. She's already relevant
@seven92023
@seven92023 Год назад
Zach seems like the nice guy women say they want but often friend zone. I think his date with Aly was better than the one with Kaity. They seem to have more chemistry and bonding. Briana was overrated, nothing to keep up with her. Christina played herself out by oversharing and making the other women insecure. Btw, notice how Briana threw Christina under the bus as revenge. Charity is the standout for me so far.
@Cjtenderloin
@Cjtenderloin Год назад
I don’t think it was revenge per se. It was clear all the girls really liked Brianna and Christina was rubbing them all the wrong way and since she was self-eliminating she opted to speak up for the other girls in the house on her way out. I think the other girls’ issues with Christina validated her own suspicions about Christina’s behavior/intent towards the other women. I think Brianna just chose a bad/meaningless personal example.
@seven92023
@seven92023 Год назад
@@Cjtenderloin It was definitely revenge by Brianna cause she was hurt by Christina's comment in the first episode. And she did it precisely because she already made the decision to self-eliminate. She added nothing to show except drama, victimhood and manipulation attempt. It didn't work in her favor and Zach wasn't interested in her.
@dr_power.
@dr_power. Год назад
My god, whats with all the commercial intrusions?! They come mid-sentence. Obnoxious. As a long time listener I’m so turned off I likely will stop tuning in.
@dr_power.
@dr_power. Год назад
Guess we have to pay for the new studio by putting up with a commercial sneaking in at all the wrong moments. Yuk
@madisonmumbauer
@madisonmumbauer Год назад
I wish they would play the audio when talking about drama. The producer always makes it seem worse than it actually is 🫣🫣
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