BACK AND FORTH - IS ATTACK ON TITAN TOP 5 OF ALL TIME?! 

Y’all the goats frl

Also tegan is the fastest hashria and a shinobi he is trained for endurance

Yessir 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

Love y'all content RDC , part 2 ? And TBH titan would wipe a hashrima

​@@nicouzamki4582This is already part 26

Literally listening while doing hw rn

The best

Listening at the gym rn

FACTS.

😂They yell a little too much for me to study to, but I see your point

Tf you talking bout.....they can

didn't gyutaro blow up a town? they probably just tank that shi ngl

nigga this is a nuke equivalent 💀, also the founder is op end of story@@evanvazquez3923

Its literally a nuke and the hashira are humans Its just not possible im sorry Demon slayer characters arw not that strong

on god @@evanvazquez3923

That’s mark 💀😂

But they wont live happy lives

@@King_X884 rather have them live a generally unhappy life, with a chance of being happy, then not let them live at all

@@zackycookie id rather see my love ones in a safe environment not sick and dying than seeing everyone i love die.

@@TheRewindSession fairs

Facts

Facts

bruh any hashira would demolish all 9 titans together, also the founding titan cant do shit to a hashira since they not subjects of ymir

⁠@@OGRiathey don’t need to be supjects of yumir for the rumbling to kill them

Cutting a rock is nothing. That's beginner level shit for any anime with swords.

I believe there can be exceptions to this, however I honestly think ur right. Just going off of my own personal experience sometimes just being able to jump into things and still get what’s going on usually is more enjoyable. There are times where I’ve watched shows with advance overarching stories however, and sometimes I can get hooked on the plot of that episode. Enough so where I eventually become interested in the show. But asides from that u make a very good point

Not to mention that seasonal anime was FAR less common back then. If you got an anime, it just ran until it was over, so AoT would have a TON of filler since it’s monthly and therefore produces less content on average (page count) than an average weekly manga produces.

This goes for almost 90% of anime lol

This is where the Golden Age of TV came in, like in the 90s it was mostly random adventures (Hercules and Xena are good examples).. I remember when it was all the hype to come home for a weekly show.. Heroes comes to mind.. But now when I watch a series I need long format and it to be serialised. I hate random episode stuff now haha

@@Eli-akad I do agree that you can get hooked or enticed by advanced stories like attack on titan but trying to find its entire media after is a harder task to accomplish in the past compared to now. If it was in the current day then surely you can get hooked and easily go find the show and start from the beginning instantly while comparatively in the past you would have to go searching for physical copies that could take weeks or months.

No cap, that's a great ass fucking analogy, because you really did have to be there to fully understand.

Well said, if aot came out back in the day most people wouldn’t have even seen it cause of it’s hiatuses, not to mention shit wasn’t on demand so it would be very hard for you to keep track of it, let alone gain new fans.

True dbz was definitely targeting kids didn’t realize the writing was mid until we got older

Honestly really solid points, that being said, there’s a reason it didn’t come out back then

I agree wholeheartedly. Another thing against Dylan’s argument is that every point he made to detract from DBZ, you can say the same about Naruto, but yet he still had Naruto in his top 5 (above AoT). Naruto has way too many flaws to be in a top 5 (still one of my favorites) if you’re being critical and ignoring nostalgia and impact. And I’m not just talking about filler. I could say the same about One Piece probably but I’ll leave that alone since I haven’t seen it. For me, with Nostalgia and Impact and all of that involved it goes 1. DBZ 2. Gundam Wing 3. Attack on Titan/FMA brotherhood (I honestly can’t separate them) 4. Fate Zero 5. Hunter x Hunter/Samurai Champloo (I can’t separate these either) If we ignoring Nostalgia and shit 1. Attack on Titan 2. FMA Brotherhood 3. Fate Zero 4. Hunter x Hunter/Samurai Champloo 5. Cyberpunk: Edgerunners The fifth spot could’ve really went to a bunch of shows tbh. Ghost in the Shell: SAC, Darker than Black S1, Black Lagoon, Code Geass and Vinland Saga. Cyberpunk probably got some recency bias going for it tbh but oh well. I ain’t seen Stein’s Gate, Baccano or Monster yet but they could probably be up there too once I watch them based on what I heard

​@Footballazz one piece and hunter x hunter are tied imo, Vinland saga is probably 1

Dylan been hating tho dont get it twisted To hate on dbz and act like aot had the perfect ending is CRAZY

The ending was great 🤷‍♂

@@thetruesquad5059when did he say perfect. If u were even listening they said multiple times that it wasn’t perfect but great (which it is)

Exactly John point was valid but he hurt himself not being able to name well written shows from that era

@redcloudm5 True, but him not being able to name those shows, as well as the rest of the cast, further proves his point imo.

​@@FlashReturnsFacts

I was literally thinking of those 2 and berserk the whole time. So frustrating he couldnt name one lol

​@@redcloudm5yeah all he had to say was berserk and evangelion. They're literally from the 90's but undisputed in every top story list

no he’s actually stupid lol. the misconception that dbz took episodes for a charge up showed his ignorance. he fr was talkin nonsense this episode

Ngl saying that people only like something purely for nostalgia is a really lazy criticism. Are you saying it's poorly written or boring? You're just stating that people liked it way back when lol. People often leave it at "nostalgia bias" and that's it really.

@@MachinaOwl exactlyyy. its ignorant

@@MachinaOwl I think you’re kinda missing the context of the video if you’re saying something like that. They literally broke down the nostalgia bias and what it actually means. For reference, a show like dbz which is relatively boring and especially poorly written in a lot of places, is carried immensely by nostalgia and impact. Two things that have no place in any kind of legitimate ranking of quality.

Impact and nostalgia are a way folks cheat to say old shit is great. I’m glad he stood on DBZ having issues

frrrr!!!

frrr

Facts, all those twists and turns just made eren’s mission that much more epic. Classic show.

still not top 5 to me

@@BoxingisgoatedBoxingisgoated what's ure top 5?

Im glad I started watching only 2 years ago and not way back like some people because I wouldnt have been able to cope with it ending

nah but like don't be sleeping on season 3! Season 3 was some the best pay off in all of aot with some really sick fights

​@@Dundun11s3 part 2 was FIRE all the fights then reveals about beyond the walls

@@thetruesquad5059 BRO it hit so different but honestly I will say this as well part 1 of season 3 is a little slept on imo because that's where they started cooking and revealing more of the titan abilities and I really enjoyed

Not gonna lie season 2 was boring to me but I understand your point ✊🏾

So true and the way Devilman Crybaby ended to I don’t think people would’ve liked that back then either

Yup!

Im pretty sure Grishas flashback was a couple episodes long but that shit slapped, some of the best aot episodes

Aot is overrated, literally while it was aired noone cared except for the first and last season. Every ep of dororo matters aswell.

​@@johncrowley3322🧢🧢🧢

EXACTLY!! You are always on ur toes on AOT but on Naruto and one piece they be adding stupid fillers that ruin the momentum of the show

They not beating the colossal

@@rightguy200000with demon mark they beat all titans

@karma9340 Nah he incenerates them in steam as soon as they get close.

@@rightguy200000 spoiler for final parts of AOT Hange was able to kill a few of the rumbling colossal titans before burning up and we all know for sure how much quicker and stronger hashira are then hange

@@DragonNinja83 Those were mindless titans. Watch how fast Berthold incinerated Armin the instant he decided to kill him.

Agreed especially for Toriyama literally writing off cuff! Lol

OG DB, I agree. But everything after that is just an action flick tbh

Exactly and marks wrong in thinking he’d get to suffer with his family bc any fit enough would be thrown into the factories to work until you die

its a sefless decision to suffer for the ones you love if i had the decision to be a toy and my family can a have a decent quality of life and they not remember me vs my family slowing deteriorating in front of my eyes and i cant even cry abt it im forsure makin that sacrifice and becoming a toy 😅

only small portion of people turned into toys unlike wano where everyone were killed and become slaves

​@@zqShadowMonarch Exactly, idk why people thinking you can suffer with your family when half of them gonna be enslaved and working in a factory and the other half are gonna die by starvation or orochi/kaido. Tama was literally an oprhan.

@@taahanajam8634 I’m saying! Most of wano population is gone. What’s left is enslaved or starving to death or forced to work for nothing and fead smile fruits. And to work to please orochi

black jacket and grey shirt is crazy 😂

If attack on Titan came out in the 80s or '90s, it definitely would have blended in to other animes of its time. It will probably have that same darker tones like Gundam, ghost in the Shell, Akira, Appleseed. A lot of modern day animes have really gotten away from Mecha, robot, space, post-apocalyptic kind of vibes

@fattygamer94 bruh I never thought of it like that after all these years 😂 AOT is a mecha anime. It's literally a "Modern" Gundam (I know they still make Gundam series).

You one of the few niggas that understand future trunks saga through dbz and super alone already secure dragonball as some of the best anime story writing ever… his ssj rage in dbs, future gohan and the androids killing him etc all that shit is amazing if you think more deeply…. Trunks is a half breed with more potential than normal saiyans and he’s had an entire life of trauma and intense battles from androids to zamasu the cheese lord god enemy narcissistic mf lol… time travel and time rings etc handled perfectly… such an apocalyptic scenario akira toriyama held it down fr on that entire storyline over the decades

But u wouldn’t struggle with your family bc any men fit enough would be taken and put to work in the factories until you die.

@@zqShadowMonarch You got me with that one, I woulda been sent to the factories quick. That life would suck. But in the general aspect the line is facts tho.

in wano you'll be working in a factory with no break until u die, there's no spending time with family lol

So you wanna hoe your whole family Vs just taking the Dolo L 😂

​@@zqShadowMonarchhell no u just slaving

It’s top-five for me too bro 😎 but I’ve been seeing a lot of hate for attack on Titan the treated like it’s trash now for some reason if not trash, they give it the death note treatment go to the reaction a Videos on the final episode it’s just people comments filled with hate.

@@TRJ42AOT tackles social issues in ways most anime don’t even get close, people will never agree on it regardless of whether it’s objectively bad or not.

⁠@@geronimo1595imo aot “social issues” narrative is really weak. If you compare it to a whole load of anime/manga it’s not really anything special

⁠@@davethawng1585AOT definitely leans on those issues more than your average battle shonen

cuz hype

Not only that doflamingo took all the money from the civilians and had king Riku, the beloved king of the country nicest guy ever and have him kill the civilians. That gave him the money.

@@TRJ42yeah but they didn’t know that. They only found out during the time luffy was fighting doflamingo.

Sounds like Fan theory nonsense used to cover up a plot hole. Any evidence in the actual story that shows this?

Nah yea and they was like that for 10 years. Idk it’s close bc Wano def got hoed but idk if I could live as a toy slave for 10 years w no hope of ever going back😭

​@@manningforever1 but they eventually did get their bodies restored. Wano got the smile fruits, that's a permanent effect. They have no cure 😢

Nah rengoku could cut through all their heels in matter of seconds, immobilizing the titans and dropping them. That would allow him to reach their necks. He can also dodge any of their attacks. The only way titans win is by tiring him out but Im pretty sure Rengoku would figure out what hes gotta do to kill them if he sliced one up from head to toe. Im pretty sure he’d eventually see the effects a slice through the neck would have.

I mean, any proficient fighter worth their salt would aim for the head regardless as that would be the way to end a fight as quick as possible. The Demon Slayers have been hardwired to decapitate their opponents because of how they work, there's even demons of various sizes in Demon Slayer as shown in the earlier seasons so I think height is almost irrelevant. Outside of Colossal-esque Titans, the Hashiras Superhuman abilities that completely dwarf the Ackermans would be too much, though they'd certainly would have to get strategical for titans of Colossal size.

@@jonathanquinteros6496they don’t have 3d maneuver gear like Dylan was trying to say, they can’t zip around titans like that he’s running on the ground. Then he’d have to deal with colossals heat, warhammers real body is buried underground he’d have to figure that out, one colossal titan transformation would kill him instantly and infinite titans spawning from erens. Beast Titan throws shit tons of boulders. Armins also a genius, I’d say there’s hardly any chance for the hashira. Not to mention no we haven’t seen them be able to cut Diamond level like Annie’s neck is

I think they would figure it out especially if the Titans guard their nape like Annie did

@@huh3719 Um5 skin is harder than diamond and Muichiro no diffed him lmao and hes like the weakest hashira

LITERALLY!!!

Surprised that was even an arrangement

Bro but it's not killing none of the 9 titans

rengoku is far faster but the colosal titan is a literal nuke that will instantly kill rengoku The war hammer titan can be piloted from afar making it a constant threat rengoku has to avoid leaving him no time to for a break at any point He has no way of knowing to go for the nape so the fight will drag on and any hit from the titans will permanently impair rengoku The founder can make more titans appear and the assault titan has precognition so they will be aware of what they are going to fight and they can easily make a plan (with the colosal titan as the win condition)

@@doom7607 Fax also if rengoku got close he'll look just like Armin

I ageee with John too cuz all of the things and shows that pop out during that time, doesn’t fit attack on titan moto or style. Plus most big and successful anime’s 300+ eps and I think pacing and story would have change just a little bit of AOT as well as its animation during the 90’s

Ppl really missed out on OG Dragonball and dbz. Super is written like fan fiction and you can’t watch dbz the way it was originally animated anymore.

@@greeneyegamerguy6007 this is super valid. it's crazy how much they fucked over goku's character in particular, but super was literally just one big ass nostalgia trip to make more money. more transformations! repeat the iconic moments from dbz! just trash. not even gonna get into how stupid every character looks now (just look at the freaking hair!)

Yea people get mad but its really just Boruto for DBZ. People blame the shows for being mid but instead of just letting things end theyre like ok but how much money to bring it back and then get mad when its not the same tier of the original. Sure you get some cool scenes and ideas but to think the story is gonna hold up to the passion of the orginals is honestly an unfair comparison@@TheRulersBack18

Exactly that part of the video was getting me annoyed lol it seemed like they watch dbz but really haven’t paid attention to dbz. I love Rdcworld1 but when it came to the dbz section they we’re wrong about some things in my opinion.

facts, thts something i learned to appreciate once i went back and watched in my adult hood.

They don’t give him credit cause a lot of people ain’t watch OG dragon ball, where majority of the cast played a role unlike in later DBZ (mostly everything after the frieza arc)

It's definitely inferior in depth and writing

I agree with you bro, they really try to downplay DBZ, just because it’s not as complex they already deem it as not well written when it’s actually a well written simple story. And I think that plays into what John was saying about AOT not being as successful if it came out during the DBZ time because the anime landscape was not what it is today so the audience and interest for AOT would already be limited. That’s why I believe DBZ actually has the better story for that time to mainstream anime like it did.

Dylan has BEEN hating bro There was a whole 15 mins on stream of him saying dbz is carried by nostalgia not understanding it was written that way cuz of when it came out, now the media is different and there is a lot more to work off of, like bruh 🤦

People love to say just off nostalgia, me being a fan of so much anime I love dbz because of the story, the characters , and how much characters like Vegeta and Piccolo have grown since Dragon Ball and Z to now Super.

@@thetruesquad5059 take the time period argument out because their were better mangas written than dragon ball z around that time

@@thetruesquad5059not hating it's facts like it's just hard to compare because as a generation we upgrade so you can't really compare as ur dragon ball z came out now with peoples attention span ... I have my life on majority not making pass season 2 they fought for episodessss with Frieza

If it wasn't dragon ball would be another , you got many old ass shounens out there that did good , Japan doesn't lack genius people when it comes to writing manga.

They need you in the writers room fr

What are you yapping about ?

@@donchinago3566 Did u not watch the video. They were talking about how Game of Thrones ending sucked and I gave my two cents about why I felt it sucked as well.

Facts man. They threw away all that whole build up for so many of the MAIN characters. Wasted so much damn time setting they character arcs up, and it drags down so much of the show along with it unlike other stories with bad/mediocre endings

AoT and GoT gotta a lot of similarities tbh

Ain't top 5

​@rais6036 it's top 5

I ageee with John cuz all of the things and shows that pop out during that time, doesn’t fit attack on titan moto or style. Plus most big and successful anime’s 300+ eps and I think pacing and story would have change just a little bit of AOT as well as its animation during the 90’s

Slasher films are just BAD now, that's why they aren't liked as much. Halloween is still a classic that has aged well, Alien is still a classic that has aged well, Scream series is still going strongly. If Friday the 13th came out today, it would never have become the cult classic that it is...and that's true of majority of slasher flicks, but some told good enough stories to stand the test of time.

i agree with John 100%...

his point sounds so dumb. If aot came out back in the it would be still be the same. It wouldnt change the fact that aot had an amazing overall story and fitting ending. That whole argument bout not finding the audience target so stupid. Youre basically saying that if fma came out back in the day they wouldnt have the same impact and great story just cause its not shounen like dbz and other shit. Making it sound like people was only looking for shounen back then. No. DBZ is as big as it is today was because the story gripped us enough to watch everytime a new episode came out. and his whole argument basically saying aot not as gripping? WHAT?!? If anything. If aot came out and finished back in the day. it would MAYBE have more "impact" than dbz. Also. that point about elevated horror is irrelevant. That shit do not matter. It's literally just about how the story gets you hooked. Yall making it sound like you sit to watch a show because you already know what youre getting out of it. TF. Im pretty sure people sit to watch because they are looking for something new to watch. Not knowing what theyre getting out of it. That whole audience target do not matter. Especially if we talking anime. Dylan's points hit and I feel like John just arguing out of biased. And with his point he basically saying that if dbz came out now. It would be mid because people not looking for that kind of shit. Which is why he bringing in that whole "inspiration" argument saying that dbz better cause it was the first to come out. He literally just debunked his earlier argument with that "if aot came out back in the day" point. All I got from that argument was him yapping. and also, why he tryna bring in that "target audience" when they just talking about the anime as whole (story, character, pacing)... Whole argument about reaching the targeted audience actually just sounds extra stupid. With that point... Then Evagelion, akira, trigun, and or almost every anime that came out back then would be called mid with the story and everything they got because people was only looking for shows like DBZ?!?!??? what.

@@vialize exactly this...the great anime today would still be great, or even greater actually if they came out in the past, same can't be said though of some anime in the past if they came out today. DBZ would not compete with Kimetsu no Yaiba, Jujutsu Kaisen, Boku no Academia, Castlevania, Shingeki no Kyojin and others if it came out today...it came out at the perfect time for it to make its mark.

omg

20years though???

@@E5_MayorI’m saying bruh

it should e since they die from burns before getting to the top of even 1 colossal titan

@@humanoidfrog4645 armin took on Bertolt for a while before he scorched completely, surely a Hashira trained to fight demons with far greater abilities could within the heat.

@@Snaggywon hashira are regular humans using techniques to enhance their muscles. At the end of the day they're still normal people. One sword through the body and the mist hashira instantly died. Levi has a bigger chance of beating THE 9 titans (intelligence, skills and all) than most of the hashira do. I finished both demon slayer and aot and the hashira would be wiped if they didn't fight the last 4 strongest demons one by one. EXPERTISE is the most important skill in aot and that's why new scouts died easily and later in their carrier they barely die.

@@humanoidfrog4645 Hashira would die in the same way Levi would because ofc are humans there’s no argument there but clearly those in demon slayer are far more durable and could bang toe to toe with a few (if not all) of the titans. And don’t act like Hashira aren’t intelligent enough to deal with demons that have been killing for millennia. Lastly let’s not forget majority of the titans understands how ODM gears work and can plan for it if they’re working together. Fighting a Hashira with no prior knowledge that uses several abilities that enhances their swordsmanship should not be overlooked imo.

@@Snaggywon hashira are not killing titans from the ground up without knowing what the titans are. Hashira usually die very young and gang up on demons to beat them. 4-5 hashira is equal to upper moon 1 so that says enough about their power level. Hashira die to fire especially a nuke from armin

Because the demons have immortality….oh and brains, smaller targets, and a more controlled manner of attack.

Like bro, everyone on the AoT side was arguing null points , tf was they bringing up the Jaw, Female, Armored,Beast and Warhammer for? They get negged by S2 Tanjiro imo, the real argument they shoulda brought up was the colossal and founding, who would literally out class and negg everyone from the DS verse, Muzan and Yoriichi included Like care to explain to me how Muzan or Yoriichi survive a fire ball that's 1000x hotter than the surface of the sun, and that reduces any form of matter down to it's subatomic particles, expands at 80% the speed of light, and covers a 5 mile radius

@@thecraze4853 im ngl you cookin so for the mere fact of wanting an explanation how do you think the hashiras would win or rather how would the titans lose?

rengoku didnt lose a bc of attrition he had an arm in his chest

@@palooski227 if we take the two top dogs out ( the founder and Colossal) The hashira would win because of their speed and their swords , if you remember Tanjiro in Season 1 cut a boulder in half and his sword didn't even have a scratch on it, S1 Tanjiro wasn't remotely close to even the weakest hashira, and the blades strength scales with with the strength and skill of it's user, so I can almost guarantee you their swords would go through Titan hardening, now if we assume they have no information on each other, that Titans might win purely from attrition, but if we assume otherwise, it's GG for the Attack, Beast, Female, Armored, Warhammer, Jaw and cart, they would simply run up to the nape cut them out and take off their head The Colossal like I said transforms with a Nuke, .....so I'm sorry if it's a fight even with Muzan, the MF would have to be over 5 miles away to not get Thanosed by the Nukes fireball, which doesn't make any sense For the founding...... it's the colossal, Plus all the other 7.....just on mad steroids, assuming the founding has full backing from Ymir ofc, it can spawn infinite Titans, hell it could spawn past colossal setting off multiple nukes, so no chance against that thing.

Even crazier when you realize that he was pretty much coming up with the story on a weekly basis. He was just making more story on the spot.

Dbz has very little world building. Y’all have bout 4 different spin offs which one of them had nothing to do with the main story. Dragon balls build ups are legit new sayiain or fusions and the obvious villain. And the fights are legit somehow I’m going to be stronger than you in the middle of this fight with no explanation as to why other than plot armor. If we talking about story and world building dbz is definitely not it and there is nothing wrong with that because dbz would still be in my top 5 because without it most these other anime’s won’t exist

@@emmanuelmaggit4760 Maybe watch the show and don’t let someone else’s opinion dictate your own. Fusions have shown up a total of 3 times in the canon story and the only surviving “new saiyan”is Broly.

@@whyme4825 I did watch the show lmao I put dbz in my top 5 all time dbz doesn’t compare to other anime’s story wise if you think that then that’s your opinion but in my opinion dbz doesn’t come close to these other anime’s as far as story and world building. Their opinion ain’t my opinion it’s my opinion I watched every dbz series including gt

As someone who grew up on the og Funimation dub and havent seen any other since, once I read the manga a lot of my problems with dbz story were quelled. The dialogue and pacing makes so much more sense in Toryiamas manga.

Doesn’t mean its better than aot…not even comparable

@@barondanielJohn’s argument was about how WELL the anime would have done, not about how good it is though. We like to believe that quality translates to success but there are tons of works that are amazing that very few people talk about

@@NepBeard yeah i hear you..being popular pr successful dont make it good either Aot is way good to be compared to dragon ball imo,just not on the same level

Annie was blitzing them horses😂they not faster than a hashira but don’t hoe😂

them hashiras are not fast either. Remember that cut off of the upper six fighting the hashira in the alley from from S3 .

Their size makes them cover distance faster too. If I ran 10 mph and i upscaled myself to 4 meters, now i cover wayyy more distance in that same timeframe just from the size increase.

They didnt even mention Armin could just nuke the demon slayer people

And even then the only reason they’re able to do that is because they’re giant and can cover more ground

Winland Saga 🔥🔥

AOT and Vinland Saga are definitely top 5, or even 3, for me

​@@kurimiaisukurimuThey definitely in my top 10

Vinland is underrated

I can definitely see Vinland Saga being on my Top 5 of all time after it’s over.

Preach.

How did it supersede the genre and what genre would it be anyways (unless you mean anime then you’re using supersede wrong). Both of those are genuine questions

it’s barely even being talked about now, it literally is GOT again. shit was hype, ending was ass, people moved on

Bro it’s a lot of good anime, just ain’t get the same attention fr

@@AreYouFNQRAZIIobviously there’s good anime out there, but 99% don’t do or reach the peaks of attack on Titan. That’s why attack on Titan is legendary and other “good anime” that aren’t getting the same “attention”…

Complexity does not = quality is a great point and Demon Slayer is proof of that in today’s era, everyone loves it and the story is not complex at all

@@redcloudm5 nah bro don't get shit mixed up. People only love demon slayer cus the animation is fucking beautiful

Yep. Simplicity can beat complexity depending on execution. And thats EXACTLY why demon sIayers story aint as ba d as ppI say. PpI love to say all it has is animation. No it has a story too. A simple story. Ive been arguing this for awhile and its so cool seeing others wake up to that.

Completely agree, is aot more complex and more depth, I would think so But that’s impressive not “better”.

i feel like cell saga had above average writing, u valid on everything else

I haven’t watched one piece beyond the live action but if you eventually get turned back being remembered then I don’t think it’s even close maybe if your family moves on or passes away before you turn back I can see it being an issue. Definitely curious on watching it now though.

@@answering248 first off be careful with dressrosa it drags on a lot so be careful second you do get turned back and everyone remembers you one character has his daughter remember him and he even watched over his daughter as a toy it’s not close at all dressrosa is much better

Ngl it’s not that crazy cuz he convinced me 💀. If Levi can do it there’s no reason a hashira can’t. And I think Dylan downplaying they speed heavy Rengoku was MOVING in that movie

@@tuff360how do thy reach the Titian neck

@@tuff360 Dude it the 9 titans though it ain't the regular kind afaik there wasn't scene where levi take on all 9 of the titans; he need help to take on three of them at the same time.

@@tuff360 rengoku is not winning a 1v9 against niggas with regeneration hardening and random powers

what could rengoku do when the colossal nukes his ass tho@@tuff360

And it still doesn’t compare to a hashira movement😂 they’re humans

And it makes sense for Jean to be with Mikasa. It was forshadowed in his character intro. He was crushing on Mikasa. And kept fixating on her and admitedly jealous of eren. Its on the page. It made sense.

​@@jblakk6768it makes sense but nobody actually wanted them to be together. mikasa do not love him 🤣 she still hung up on eren 10 years later.

@@YALLDONTNEEDTOKNOWThat’s like saying you can’t miss and love your dead wife and still be able to love your current wife. It literally happens all the time in real life. It’s perfectly fine that she can miss Eren and love her husband Jean at the same time.

all of them were dead if falco and OGs didn't save them

Bro Armin turn into his titan once and nukes everyone 🤔 Eren can control everyone, I saw 1 hashira gets packed ngl

@@HigherNobility "Could" never said they had one chance at all💀

@@dewdadream odm gear is different from just speed it lets them travel in any direction mid travel e.g. if rengoku jumps in a straight line he cant turn right instantly while keeping all momentum

​@@HigherNobilityhow weak do you think a hashira is? I don't like demon slayer but the fact these 2 things were being compared was crazy...

@@doom7607 i agree wit you but it was still a necessity for them to fight the titans

Thank you bruh I couldn’t get it out and attack on titan has impact with the transformation that’s it idc maybe 3d gear and swords

Facts!!! Preaching my fellow universe 7 warrior 💪💯

If we’re talking most influential than Dbz should be there but we’re talking greatest all time. I feel impact shouldn’t play a factor because that to me is a lazy reason that overshadows shows that hit all the beats of a truly amazing show. I feel dbz has better characters truly like Vegeta, Piccolo, teen Gohan, future Trunks , Dbz Goku. But other than that, it can be controversial on whether story plots are good or if it’s paced well. Attack on Titans story can be nitpicked for mistakes but all the story beats are there from the very beginning and everything comes full circle from the very first episode. I really admire Isayama because he thought out the show completely and every moment is necessary in each episode , no filler really . If we’re comparing the two shows against each other, it should be AoT without a doubt objectively , but if we look at it emotionally , then I can understand completely why ppl would say DBZ. But in a true top five list, saying that impact is a factor is lazy reasoning for why dbz should be there. It can be up there, but not with that explanation.

@@wel0219 ok but if you read my explanation impact wasn’t my only reasoning it was just my last reason lol

Dbz and Aot are gonna be in my top 5 I can admit, is nostalgia bias on z but AOT I truly think it’s the top 5 anime

no nobody in ds can survive the nuke from the colossal titan and that’s what they open with when they attack as a squad of 9

@@Tissuestrashnigga talking about a suicide move😂 can’t do that with everyone standing there

@@Tissuestrash if they can even transform before they're dead. by the time they even realize they're on the battlefield, their head is gone.

​@imnotsanii Eren has the advantage of time. No way he's letting a Hashira decapitate him without a plan. With the other 8, he's unstoppable

@@Tissuestrashthey can outrun that explosion. Hashira are way faster then lightning and lightning is multiple times faster then a combustion

Ik the hashria would speed blitz the shi out of dem 😂

@@r..e7045no they wouldn’t bro. One hashira cant solo the 9 shifters. Not a single one of them will be able to survive armin transformation they fast but not that fast Nigga it takes armin seconds to transform.

@@dzciple4931 hashria literally move faster then a blink of an eye and light speed if u didn’t know fo, they for sure is gonna be perfectly fine

@@dzciple4931nahhh they prolly gonna cut through the blast some crazy plot feat 😂

@@r..e7045😂😂😂 You are baiting so mf hard please

No it shouldn’t being first should not disregard other factors.

@@Stunt877 Yeah, I’m saying people should consider a combination of factors instead of just one. That way, it’s more balanced. Also, I wouldn’t say being first guarantees influence. A show could’ve come before and had no influence on what came later. And both new and older anime can have a huge impact on people.

I 100% agree with your take. I get the points Dylan was making…but every point he made to detract from DBZ, you can say the same about Naruto yet that was still above AoT on his list. Naruto has way too many flaws to be in a top 5 if you’re being critical and ignoring nostalgia and impact. And I’m not just talking about filler. I could say the same about One Piece probably but I’ll leave that alone since I haven’t seen it. For me, with Nostalgia and Impact and all of that involved it goes 1. DBZ 2. Gundam Wing 3. Attack on Titan/FMA brotherhood (I honestly can’t separate them) 4. Fate Zero 5. Hunter x Hunter/Samurai Champloo (I can’t separate these either) If we ignoring Nostalgia and shit 1. Attack on Titan 2. FMA Brotherhood 3. Fate Zero 4. Hunter x Hunter/Samurai Champloo 5. Cyberpunk: Edgerunners The fifth spot could’ve really went to a bunch of shows tbh. Ghost in the Shell: SAC, Darker than Black S1, Black Lagoon, Code Geass and Vinland Saga. Cyberpunk probably got some recency bias going for it tbh but oh well. I ain’t seen Stein’s Gate, Baccano or Monster yet but they could probably be up there too once I watch them based on what I heard

I’m sure the Hashiras should already know it’s the neck nape area, it’s just another day in the office.

@@jadencandelario7880 hashira move add the speed of sound, its in the databooks lol

@@PolrFlar3 the speed of sound blitzes anything the titans move at.

@@jadencandelario7880 exactly, so i dont know why these mfs think a hashira wouldnt pack up a few titans

I'd actually argue writing in movies has gotten worse compared to back then.

@@bofi1280 absolutely

Well said. That’s a really good point. DBZ had to survive weekly as a show so naturally they needed to drag things out a bit more. I also get the points Dylan was making…but every point he made to detract from DBZ, you can say the same about Naruto yet he still had Naruto above AoT somehow. Naruto has way too many flaws to be in a top 5 if you’re being critical and ignoring nostalgia and impact. And I’m not just talking about filler. I could say the same about One Piece probably but I’ll leave that alone since I haven’t seen it. For me, with Nostalgia and Impact and all of that involved it goes 1. DBZ 2. Gundam Wing 3. Attack on Titan/FMA brotherhood (I honestly can’t separate them) 4. Fate Zero 5. Hunter x Hunter/Samurai Champloo (I can’t separate these either) If we ignoring Nostalgia and shit 1. Attack on Titan 2. FMA Brotherhood 3. Fate Zero 4. Hunter x Hunter/Samurai Champloo 5. Cyberpunk: Edgerunners The fifth spot could’ve really went to a bunch of shows tbh. Ghost in the Shell: SAC, Darker than Black S1, Black Lagoon, Code Geass, NGE (original or Rebuild movies), and Vinland Saga. Cyberpunk probably got some recency bias going for it tbh but oh well. I ain’t seen Stein’s Gate, Baccano or Monster yet but they could probably be up there too once I watch them based on what I heard. I would also throw Ghost in the shell along side NGE for the point u made. Well written, probably one of the greatest animation spectacles when you consider the time it came out…and the Impact, while it wasn’t as large as DBZ, it still had a massive impact on the Sci-fi/futuristic/cyberpunk genre in all of media, not just anime. The fuckin matrix took inspiration from Ghost in the Shell. That hoe inspired a lot of shit.

I think back to 2013 when attack on Titan came out and the kind of like touching portion genres that it would fit into would be Mecha, zombie-ish, thriller, survival anime. And you're absolutely right compared to animes from the '80s and '90s, there were a lot darker more mature animes that were really popular. But one thing I will say is if DBZ never came out animes these days would have gone in a different direction in terms of popularity. The martial arts, the fight scenes, moving soo fast you can't see them, the power ups, the transformers, the slight comedic relief, the "found family" values. Dragon Ball did a lot for anime's.

​@fattygamer94 Absolutely agree. Actually, the Big 3 wouldn't exist. Naruto, One Piece, and Bleach were influenced in some way by either DB or Akira Toriyama himself.

I ageee with John cuz if AOT came out in 90/80s I don’t think would have been as known or even impactful as Dragoo ball. Because all of the things and shows that pop out during that time, doesn’t fit attack on titan moto or style. Plus most big and successful anime’s wax 300+ eps and I think pacing and story would have change just a little bit of AOT as well as its animation during the 90’s

Y'all keep saying but super come out in modern time so no

Agreed the formats and the direction of anime at that time were totally different would have been harder to stand out in that mix. DBZ created their mix and from that they spawned a whole genre. AOT is a Top 10 but I can’t say top 5 I’m a long time anime watcher and I’m not discrediting pass work for current work.

You silly eh 😂

It was jean? I thought it was Mikasa in the grave.

​@@donnynguyen7212in the grave? Yes but they mean them being together

Thats some 6th grade type shitty romance 😂

its still ambiguous depending on how you interpret the ending. there's a chance its not jean or is.

@@693gamefreakin the manga it’s Jean if I’m not mistaken