@@StarrTile Not even a perhaps. Its a gimme, that trowel you are using is, A putting on to a thin bed, and B going in the wrong direction for those tile lengths,but each to their own!
back buttering does have its place, but slapping extra mortar on then saying you have better coverage isnt a good demo. its impossible for it not look looke like better coverage because you already covered the whole back of the tile...
I wish I had seen this video previously. I'm in the process of tearing out a tub surround because of poor advice from the top video search result about back buttering or not for subway tile. Tiles were falling off the wall before I had even finished...
I have put several showers together with putting no thinnset on the walls only on the tile and have never had one fall off and some bathrooms are 10 - 15 years old. I will start back buttering I guess just to be safe.
It would be problematic to use leveling Clips on this small of a tile with so much of it going to the ceiling staggering in half... which is a little bit of the reason that I used larger trowel for thinset to manipulate the differences in the deflection of tile. Only slight lippage here & there that my customer was ok with.
@@StarrTile is good help hard to find where ur at? Just curious. It is here in Florida, People work just long enough to get their beer and a cigarette money and then you don’t hear from them LOL
@@FromTheHood2TheWoods I have had a few good helpers through the years but they stay around for about six months and then spring off on their own.... but as a rule I work alone because it's easier and because I'm an ass to work for
I just finished a kitchen floor we used a 24 inch x24 inch high gloss super black porcelain. It turned out pretty good. Except we went with a non sanded grout black. I think I wiped to soon as ground dried gray. Now I have a haze I can’t seem to get rid of. Any ideas would be appreciated thanks.And good video.
Sometimes that could happen because you use white thinset instead of Grey... or the washout effects, meaning you sponge it off too many times which got rid of some of the dye. I would have never suggested to use unsanded grout which was part of the problem. This happened to me on my bathroom floor and before I sold my house I literally painted each grout line with the proper color that I wanted
@@Greg-kc1dw ya thanks but this stuff isn’t coming off easy. Tried water and vinegar. Nothing. But I guess I gotta go with a product meant to remove it. The tile before grouting was super shiny now not so much. Thanks for the help.
@@growopterb8459 texspar plus is a citrus based grout haze remover it even works on epoxy grout haze and it's safe for the grout joints. i found this product when i did a epoxy grout years ago and could not remove haze this stuff works wonders and i recommend it any chance i get
My take, is that back buttering small wall tile is more than 8 seconds when you ad time cleaning? It’s not worth the extra time to me. Small tiles with 30% cover rarely just fall off.
i scratch coat the wall and trowel the tile.... i use a v trowel to do the scratch coat with thinset. idk about you but i have never been called back 23 yrs btw
How long does it normally take for thinset to dry up? I've done drywall and have gotten to a point where the compound starts to thicken up a bit. Just noticed that you had pre trawled the area. Forgive me for my ignorance. Just wondering. I'm guessing it's a little bit more forgiving when you back butter?
It really depends on how rich you mix the thinset...I tend to use more water when using these very porous ceramic, also doing large area here is because I don't need to take time for spacers. But it's hit/miss on time, a lot of variables. A bucket lasts a few hours if I mix again every once in awhile.
@@StarrTile lol well at least the Schluter Allset I have been using isn’t supposed to be remixed. But I’m not familiar with other brands. I came here because my 3x9 subway tiles I’m putting up in my shower, the Thinset isn’t sticking to them. So I’ve been back buttering. It sticks to the Kerdi board just fine but not the tile which is weird.
I did a small backsplash for the first time using subway tiles and I ended up back buttering because I wanted to make sure. The problem I had was lippage, not sure what I did wrong. I thought I was looking to be even when installing but afterwards I am seeing lippage.
Longer subway tile like in the video will definitely have some lippage, it's almost unavoidable because the tiles are all not perfect and you cannot use leveling clips so you have to pick your poison...no subway or live with imperfect
Your video fails to discuss thinset types and consistency of mix. You cannot let thinset be exposed to air that long, it will skin over and be no good.
@@mchoy33 it is possible that having that much coverage could serve some other purpose, waterproofing would not be one of them, the main issue is making sure that the tile adhered well but also that the grout stays intact which means all the adjoining tile must be firmly in place
Well they were clogging up my channel and weren't getting the views that would be typical. I don't think there was really an appreciation of a day in a life, people just want to see work
@@apex007 well yeah, but talking to the camera and showing accidents or other weird things on the thumbnail of the video, hardly anybody watched.... it was a lot of trouble to go through filming, editing, and uploading everyday and getting 500 hits.
