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Subway tile dos and don'ts. Specifically back buttering.

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Back buttering tiles during the installation process may not always be needed for most subway tiles in this video I explain why certain subway tiles, or small format tiles can be installed without back buttering and when in some cases it may be needed. For large format tiles, and for natural stone tiles, back buttering the tiles with thinset, is always recommended, however for smaller tiles, usually 12" or less it may not be needed to achieve the recommended thinset mortar coverage on the back of the tile when it is set. When a tile is back buttered with thinset it makes it easier to achieve the recommended coverage of thinset when the tile is placed into the combed bed of thinset. It is always desirable to achieve as close to 100% coverage of thinset as possible, back buttering the tile facilitates this goal. All tile installed by Sal DiBlasi, Elite-tile Company, in the Boston North Shore area. This video contains affiliate links, which means I will receive a small commission if you click on the product link.
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@bradleyb.425 9 месяцев назад

Thanks Sal. You're the Master of Tile, and as a professional tile setter I defer to you regularly.

@maydanlex 3 года назад

The knowledge contained within Mr. DiBlasi's videos was integral to my success in doing my first bathroom tile job ......using 12 X 24 tiles no less.

@SalDiBlasi 3 года назад

Thanks for watching my video.

@Titantitan001 2 года назад

How long did that take ya? I always suggest against home owners doing the prep cause water proofing gets goofed up so much. Ive lost count at this point. But bravo mate

@philliplively1905 3 года назад

Take a drink everytime he says back butta

@SalDiBlasi 3 года назад

😊👍

@themodernhandymanchannel1223 Год назад

😂😂

@Alex-V.S Год назад

I am intoxicated and might not make it alive by the end of this video. 🥴

@kayBTR 3 года назад

Thanks Sal for showing how to trowel the thin-set in a straight line and slide that tile in the opposite direction of the line. GREAT VIDEO.

@SalDiBlasi 3 года назад

Thanks for watching my video.

@robjovic642 3 года назад

I just installed a 4”x12” rectified porcelain tile kitchen backsplash and didn’t put any mortar on the walls at all...just troweled it onto the back of each tile and came out amazing!

@rchealy 2 года назад

I did the same thing when doing the herringbone in my shower because needed to slow my roll from slapping the tiles up too quickly.

@martinradtke5181 2 года назад

Thank you Sal for explaining via common sense and examples when to back butter tiles. I’m impress by your tiling talent - I just started my shower and it took me 3 hrs to do 10 sq ft. I’m getting the hang of it but this reminds me of drywall mudding. You pros make it look easy but for this retired Medicare Old Man it’s hard work. Creaky arthritic joints…wife likes the results!❤️

@phillipkirby502 8 месяцев назад

I hope everything turned out great! 🙂

@williammartin9450 2 года назад

If you want any tile to bond better to a cementitious adhesive a little moisture always helps... hence sponging a wall before burning in. If the subway tile is extremely dry and porous, and on hot days, I will often spray the back of the tile with a bit of water before setting to increase the bond strength.

@mykidsaresupercute 2 года назад

Thanks! We have been back buttering our 4x12 subway tiles which I now know it the right thing because they have grooves on the back.

@michaelnitzel4738 Год назад

Great video, Sal! Answered all of my back buttering questions quickly and clearly. Thank you!

@marcuscicero9587 3 года назад

greetings Mr. DiBlasi. great videos and I complement you on your work ethic

@SalDiBlasi 3 года назад

Much appreciated

@MM-gl1xz Год назад

You're a great teacher! Love that you explain the why's and show it!

@SalDiBlasi Год назад

😊👍

@I-TILE 8 месяцев назад

I’m a huge fan of back buttering

@I-TILE 8 месяцев назад

Yes nicely shown here 100% coverage

@neppiesworld9432 8 месяцев назад

I just love your videos! They’re so informative!

@SalDiBlasi 8 месяцев назад

Glad you like them!

@Nikkimac80 3 года назад

Great video sal. Love the knowledge.

@SalDiBlasi 3 года назад

Thanks for watching!

@Familyfun0811 2 месяца назад

Good job

@bigdaddy7670 Год назад

Fantastic explanation!

@asinger261 3 года назад

Haven't been on for a while but definitely digging the beard my man

@SalDiBlasi 3 года назад

😊👍

@squid_fish 2 года назад

You are the man! Thanks for the videos ✔️🙂

@SalDiBlasi 2 года назад

My pleasure!

@Apexjasonmorganllc 5 месяцев назад

Really good info.

@SalDiBlasi 5 месяцев назад

Glad you liked it

@cvzphotography Год назад

Thanks, Sal.

@SalDiBlasi Год назад

You bet

@Dtileandremodeling 3 года назад

awesome vid Sal !

@SalDiBlasi 3 года назад

Thanks!

@leeedwards3783 3 года назад

Thank you sir. Very informative

@SalDiBlasi 3 года назад

Glad it was helpful!

@leeedwards3783 3 года назад

True. Is there a set depth of adhesive a certain sized trowel will leave if you need to calculate where to set your studs do the tile finishes at an almost exact point. So 95mm stuf, 12mm kedi board, adhesive and 24 x 24 tile at 10mm thick. Hope that makes sense. Thanks Sal.

@chevyhighrider 11 месяцев назад

Sal, my 3x9 porcelain subway tile is not sticking to my Schluter Allset. I mix to the instructions on the bag, I’ve tried the wetter and drier end of the range of water and same thing. I’ve started having to backbutter every one :/

@FD-dh2fu 3 года назад

Love it! Thank you

@SalDiBlasi 3 года назад

Glad you enjoyed it!

@burtrussel1535 Год назад

Great video! What kind of thin set mortar did you use in this video? It looks like it's great to work with.

@sykomike11 3 года назад

Great video as always sal, but for god's sake it could have been half the length!

@SalDiBlasi 3 года назад

Onlky watch the half that you need. 😇😊

@oddopops1327 7 месяцев назад

👍👍😉

@jhscolombianito7598 2 года назад

Hi my friend, thank you for explaining. What kind of material do you use to tile ( thinset or mastick ) ?

@seandaliege 2 года назад

What about a 2.5 x 16 inch ceramic tile? Should i back butter this size?

@rrjones6667 3 года назад

Hi Sal great instruction as always. I have a lanai that I want to tile can you give me advice on prepping the surface as it is painted cool deck.

@SalDiBlasi 3 года назад

You need to grind off the paint.

@jamesderbaum9678 3 года назад

Are you going over slab? I've been doing tile for over 40 years

@johnbell1246 2 года назад

Do you have a helper Sal? I've been without for many years but am considering a younger helper I can train properly from the start tho!.

@tonyedwards7801 3 года назад

Hi there, do you have any videos discussing soaking tiles prior to usage vs. dry tile application. Thanks 👍

@SalDiBlasi 3 года назад

That is a thing of the past, not needed today.

@charlesgoodine8960 3 года назад

What size grout gaps on these??

@SalDiBlasi 3 года назад

1/8"

@bubbalands 2 года назад

Would back butter a 6x12

@shortsalesumo 2 года назад

Is thinset or premixed mastic better for bathtub walls, where the base is cement board

@KevinDiaz-kz9lt Год назад

Mastic is not meant for a “wet area” application. It’ll return back to a liquid mush state. A thinset is needed.

@BZ1340 2 года назад

Is Mapei your go too Thinset for porcelain and ceramic subway tile. It seems I see all kinds of Thinset being used for subway installs.

@SalDiBlasi 2 года назад

Depends on the tile and substrate. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-S80GVg4Y4MU.html

@southpoleelvs Год назад

Take a shot every time he says "back buddah"

@SalDiBlasi Год назад

😊👍

@garygray4664 2 месяца назад

Drunk in 2 minutes

@leeedwards3783 3 года назад

Hi Sal. Is there a particular depth you add on for tile adhesive when setting shower valves etc. Say you use a 24 x 24 tile and you use a 1/2 u shaped trowel, then that is 12mm + 12mm. When flattened it becomes 6mm spread of adhesive. Do you add more for back buttering? Hope that makes sense. Trying to work out depth of false wall before it has kerdi board, tile adhesive and tile. Thanks

@SalDiBlasi 3 года назад

It is the plumbers job to set the depth of the valve.

@christianrice3113 3 года назад

What specific wow collection is the tile in this video?

@SalDiBlasi 3 года назад

Shadow 2.5x5 White Glossy

@Hhhhhhlllll 3 года назад

What about the dust/glue on the back of the tile, back butter right

@SalDiBlasi 3 года назад

Usually not a problem, but in some cases you have to wash and wipe down the tile.

@krakenwoodfloorservicemcma5975 2 года назад

I wipe the back of every tile with a clean sponge. It bonds very well. I rarely back butter the tile. Sal is the pro though and I would listen to him before me.

@GCRAAY 4 месяца назад

That’s a very thick tile.

@mikew3012 2 года назад

Is there a shade variation in those tiles Sal? Not sure if it's tile or camera angle 🤔

@SalDiBlasi 2 года назад

Yes lots of different shades.

@mikew3012 2 года назад

@@SalDiBlasi thanks sal I've just completed a large floor and all the the batch numbers are the same but the shade variation is terrible tbh

@tylerlanger7702 Год назад

Drink every time sal says butta

@jamesderbaum9678 3 года назад

Why didn't you use Some type of water proof paint?

@suspicionofdeceit 3 года назад

The hydroban backer board is waterproof, a liquid membrane is therefore unnecessary.

@SalDiBlasi 3 года назад

What suspicionofdeceit Said. You might want to look into sealed shower systems that use a bonding flange.

@jamesderbaum9678 3 года назад

@@suspicionofdeceit , in our area we have seen that brand, thanks.

@1badpete999 3 года назад

How do you keep glue from oozing out between tile gaps especially on mosaic with narrow gaps once they are dried its a pain to clean or remove before filling joints ,what's your tricks ????

@TonyVM775 3 года назад

Make sure you use the right size trowel for the job. Mosaics I will use a 1/8 trowel or something. I also use a bristle brush (similar to toothbrush) and some water to “scrub” the thinset out of the grout lines if needed.

@marks.5288 3 года назад

Adhere the mosaic to Kerdi Band first with thinset using a 3/16 V notch trowel and let set up . Then adhere the the backed tile to the wall . No ooze except maybe at the outer edges.

@SalDiBlasi 3 года назад

Try knocking down the ridges of the mortar along with the correct trowel size.

@KevinDiaz-kz9lt Год назад

Yep a 6” drywall knife is what I use to knock down the ridges

@karenpayne3946 Год назад

Thanks Sal I’m dealing with Satan!

@marccas10 3 года назад

I wish somebody would have told me that I didn't have to use butter? On the plus side my cholesterol has got lower.

@SalDiBlasi 3 года назад

You do have to use butter, who said you didn't?

@marccas10 3 года назад

@@SalDiBlasi One of the other tiling channels? He said to use margarine?

@mk-jm5tv Год назад

back butta!!!!

@stevezartman7238 2 года назад

Is back buttering necessary for a 16x4 subway tile on GoBoard

@SalDiBlasi 2 года назад

I would.

@stevezartman7238 2 года назад

@@SalDiBlasi thanks for the quick response

@cfomusic73 Год назад

Sorry I disagree. Back butter everything...... Just like you key in the substrate..... You need to back butter the tile for proper adhesion. Also that euro notch trowel way excessive size for that 3x6 tile. You stated that hydroban board wall flat then that euro notch is way to much for that size trowel unless you want to spend the entire next day cleaning all your grout lines.