Just because one struggles at a specific climb it doesnt make it harder than it is graded. Everyone has a style and anti-style, strengths and weaknesses. Just bevause you climb at a X grade, doesnt mean youre entitled to doing every climb graded X. 8c+ is still absolute elite level of bouldering that takes double digit amount of sessions for the best climbers out there.
@@ksof1this. So many people say that alphane should be downgraded just because there have been many repeats, however most people agree it’s harder than 8c+. I’m sure there would be more repeats of Teranova if, and let’s be honest, the boulder was easier to access and was more inspiring. There’s a lot more nuance to grading than just “who has done it.”
@mrmonsterhunter808 I think it's beyond that many people have done it, Shawn did say he thought of giving it 8C+, and Will has said in some interviews he thought Alphane might be more Hard 8C+. So lots of doubt has been expressed about the grade. Nonetheless Alphane is a cool impressive ascent. Time will tell what the grade ends up at, plenty of 8C+,8B/+ have been downgraded. As more 9A come along it will be more clear.😊
A second ascent, which is expected with almost as much excitement as Will's at BOD. As far as the grade is concerned, we will probably need more ascents. At least we already know what a solid V17 is for Will (…will send🤞)
Thanks for watching! :) it’s actually about 45 degrees but the rock bulges a lot so a lot of the holds aren’t on bits that steep but it feels steep to climb
Hey will please if u do sleepwalker can u keep going and try return. I see so many people do sleepwalker and then waste all the muscle memory by not carryng on with the v17 while the have the v16 wired
@@ksof1 I think that beta is called 'be tall'. I'd be surprised if Zander's downgrade sticks, and even he was saying that it made absolutely zero difference to the 17 start which remains absolutely fucked
@bilbobaggans8398 the problem is that Return is really, really fucking hard. Nate Williams sent the stand fairly quickly and has since spent two entire seasons trying the sit with no luck. Jimmy Webb spent a season on Return, and gave up because it was too hard. According to Drew ruana the sit moves themselves are super hard, and linking the thing is insane. Basically, V17 is fucked hard and most climbers aren't at a high enough level to send it
I wonder if there are some V17's with lots of beta on the internet that could swap grades with Terranova? There has to be something to how much beta exists on the internet that makes a grade more or less hard. Will, so curious of your thoughts on this!
Can't comprehend what's the driving force for Will to revisit the crag for this boulder problem. There are hard climbs that are purely inspiring just to observe. Aesthetics gone down the drain...
Well I was in Arco but as the weather was terrible there and most other places this seemed like a good choice as its dry here! More importantly its actually really fun to try and could quite possibly be the hardest boulder in the world. :)
I reckon the most important thing is how much fun he's having. We get the privilege of watching whatever that happens to be. Personally, I'm grateful, no matter what the rock or background looks like.