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BACK TO THE FUTURE (1985) PART 2/2 - MOVIE REACTION! GREAT! 

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Welcome to our reactions watching the classic Back To The Future (1985).
We are watching this as part of the whole trilogy. The sequels will be first time watching and we loved watching this original to prepare us up for that. We picked up on so many details, this film is worth watching many times for sure. A fast-paced action film, science-fiction, with such a buddy movie vibe, full of enthusiasm. Written by Robert Zemeckis and Bob Gale, Directed by Robert Zemeckis, Produced by Steven Spielberg, starring Michael J. Fox, Christopher Lloyd, Lea Thompson and Crispin Glover.
We loved this film so much, and our reactions so strong that the edit is long, hence the reason for splitting it in to two halves. This is Part 2 of 2 of the original film. We only decided to do the split in the edit, so sorry if there is confusion.
AMAZING! The script is so well constructed and the performances so enthusiastic, we want to return to viewing this many times. One of the greatest films ever made. Hope you enjoy our reactions, commentary and discussion as we pick up on new details in preparation for first time watching the sequels. We both found it great fun and exceptional filmmaking.
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@GenerationMediaReaction
@GenerationMediaReaction 8 дней назад
We hope you enjoy this Reaction Video. We loved it, and it doesn't feel dated considering how long ago it was made. The script is super tight, and we loved seeing the foreshadows and pay-offs in what is a complex and well crafted script. But I bet we missed some things. If you think there's anything else of interest, please comment on this and get a thread going. Enjoy! In the meantime, we will be reacting to the sequels very soon!
@dcrph5302
@dcrph5302 8 дней назад
I have watched this film countless times and watched so many reactors on RU-vid, but your son said something I have never heard or thought about before- will the actions of harnessing the lightning to power the time machine keep the lightning from stopping the clock in the clocktower. Wow! Mind blown. Kudos to him for such an astute question. Love your reactions.
@GenerationMediaReaction
@GenerationMediaReaction 8 дней назад
Yeah... what if... the clock had not stopped and this was one thing more they had changed!?
@0okamino
@0okamino 6 дней назад
I’m pretty sure the initial strike would have done enough damage to the clock, even with it being harnessed from that point and directed into the flux capacitor.
@Paul77ozee
@Paul77ozee 6 дней назад
I think harnessing all the power just stopped the clock from being more damaged than it is. I’ve seen a lightning bolt split a large tree down the middle.
@Dd8505
@Dd8505 7 дней назад
I love how the Father starts to get emotional towards the end, love it, plus his Son is so dam smart!!
@GenerationMediaReaction
@GenerationMediaReaction 7 дней назад
sheeesh, i thought i got away with that being unnoticed :-)
@Dd8505
@Dd8505 7 дней назад
@@GenerationMediaReaction No Sir haha....you'll never get away with that from an empath like me, plus a fellow Back to the Future lover👍Your analysis was fabulous too, your Son is a lucky boy I think👍
@GenerationMediaReaction
@GenerationMediaReaction 7 дней назад
@@Dd8505 There are some films i look forward to covering on the channel that i know will bring the waterworks. The truth it, when a film is just so good, just the admiration of the work can get me going!
@dlarge6502
@dlarge6502 7 дней назад
All 3 movies are essentially one long film. Marty gets his growth and rewards at the end of the third movie, all three having contributed to it.
@bobbuethe1477
@bobbuethe1477 7 дней назад
25:30 It's now Lone Pine Mall because Marty ran over one of farmer Peabody's two pine trees. Remember when you thought he said "You killed my parents?" What he really said was "You killed my pine." 26:50 I'm not sure what you mean by "How did he know exactly where each bullet would go?" It was a vest. As long as none of the bullets hit his head, arms, or legs, the rest of his body was protected. Are you thinking that those metal discs are what stopped the bullets? No, those discs are the bullets, which got flattened when they hit the vest.
@GenerationMediaReaction
@GenerationMediaReaction 7 дней назад
Yeah we realised what he said in the edit "you killed my pine", it was all happening so fast. I think the comment on the bullets was in the understanding that none were to hit him in the head.
@Purple_Buffalo
@Purple_Buffalo 7 дней назад
Great Scott! We are ready to go! What a summer this was to see in the theater. And for the sequel, the theater was electric before the show. You could tell EVERYONE was about to puke with excitment. It was like waiting in line for a NEW rollercoaster. The moment you feel when you are just about to go on and its almost your turn!
@Paul77ozee
@Paul77ozee 6 дней назад
The only thing l hatted about this was that they shot part 2 & 3 together but still took 6 months for part 3 to come out at the cinema. Especially when they tease you with clips from part 3 at the end credits of part 2.
@RebornLeveller
@RebornLeveller 7 дней назад
This brings back happy memories for me. You remind me a lot of me and my dad when I was a kid. We watched this one together on VHS, then saw part’s 2 and 3 at the cinema when I was 12 and 13. Part 2 (my personal favourite) came out in November 1989 here in England, and I remember it being so popular that the queue ran right out of the building, down the street and round a corner. Thankfully we were closer to the front so managed to get seats. For part 3 we had to buy tickets a week in advance to make sure we got in. I’m looking forward to rewatching with you two. 😃
@GenerationMediaReaction
@GenerationMediaReaction 7 дней назад
looking forward to the sequels now!
@bobbuethe1477
@bobbuethe1477 7 дней назад
17:35 When Doc showed Marty the car at the beginning of the movie, he said it had three time settings: one for the current time, one for the time that you're starting from, and one for the time that you're going to. So it had a record of the exact second that he left.
@deathfab
@deathfab 8 дней назад
My favourite part of the original as an adult is the 3 young actors that played the older versions and younger versions of themselves. Absolutely flawless acting. As a kid I didn't understand how they did the make up. It was also flawless. They look old and act old. I used to love marty and Michael j fox but as an adult it's Crispin Glover that steals the whole show. And it's weird to think that he thought George was the actual main character but it makes sense. Its kind of his story. It's such a shame he wasn't in the sequels.
@GenerationMediaReaction
@GenerationMediaReaction 8 дней назад
Absolutely, George has the largest emotional 'arc' because he changes the most. This is what's interesting about the story - as I dont' think it's intended. Marty plays a character that affects change on others more than change himself.
@Johnadams20760
@Johnadams20760 8 дней назад
when doc dropped marty off he said he was gon about 30 years, a nice round number
@MattHawes
@MattHawes 8 дней назад
I finished both parts of the review, and it's another fun one. I do enjoy hearing your analysis and interpretation, as well as both perspectives from you and your son. He seemed to really enjoy it, too. I haven't read all the other comments, so maybe these things have been addressed, but... At the beginning, not only is Albery Einstein's picture on the wall at Doc's house, but Benjamin Franklin and other well-known inventors. And the photo Doc is looking at when he says "Tom" is that of Thomas Edison. As for the skateboard, it was invented just a bit earlier, but wasn't really something the general public would know about so much until, I believe, the later 1960s. Without going back entirely, I am paraphrasing here, but with the older couple that is in the car when Marty first arrives in the past says something like, "Wilbur, drive." 😊 I don't know if I picked up on it before, but it's also one of many cool details that the distinction of the Lone Pine Mall and the Two Pines Mall is referencing the plants that Marty drove through when escaping the farmer and his shotgun. It was Marty that took out one of the pines. 😂 I also think it was brilliant that the clock tower was used to pinpoint the exact time something happened, in this case, the lightning bolt. The hands of the clock naturally stopped on the exact moment. I remember originally planning to see "Red Sonja" (1985) with a friend and he didn't make it to the theater, and since it was too late for me to make the screening of that film, I went and saw "Back To The Future," instead. By far, the better choice! Looking forward to the next review from you two!
@GenerationMediaReaction
@GenerationMediaReaction 8 дней назад
Thank you. Ah yes couldn't recognise all the scientists Doc had, but realised they had to be famous after Einstein was pointed out. Caught the 'Tom', but didn't recognise him. Glad you enjoyed it
@0okamino
@0okamino 6 дней назад
Yeah, in 1955, skateboarding would still be something among some surfers on the coast, and Hill Valley is fairly close to the California-Nevada border, not near the coast.
@keywesttexmex1
@keywesttexmex1 8 дней назад
Have you seen “Blast from the Past”? Some great father/son scenes, as well as just being a super enjoyable wholesome movie.
@GenerationMediaReaction
@GenerationMediaReaction 8 дней назад
thank you, we will look into it
@schroedingers_kotze
@schroedingers_kotze 3 дня назад
15:50 It's easy to overlook the fact that Marty's guitar solo is not only a brilliant joke about the supposed construction of a '50s rock 'n' roll classic, but that his over-the-top playing also provides a perfect introduction to his farewell to the '50s when both sides realize they don't really fit together. This is actually one of the best scripts ever written, with an incredible amount of allusions and ambiguity on every level.
@GenerationMediaReaction
@GenerationMediaReaction 2 дня назад
Thank you for watching. We will upload the first sequel tomorrow
@gregorydahl5489
@gregorydahl5489 8 дней назад
Most enjoyable reaction ! Thank you ! Your insights and expressed emotions places another layer of unique perspective upon on a movie that I feel as one of the best !
@GenerationMediaReaction
@GenerationMediaReaction 8 дней назад
Thank you! We are looking forward to the sequels!
@chrisf_yt
@chrisf_yt 8 дней назад
The greatest trilogy to ever exist together with OT Star Wars and LotR.
@GenerationMediaReaction
@GenerationMediaReaction 8 дней назад
high expectations!
@andreadeamon6419
@andreadeamon6419 8 дней назад
Bttf blows the other one out of the water. My son loves the other movies - but he says the same thing.
@chrisf_yt
@chrisf_yt 8 дней назад
@@andreadeamon6419 Third one has a special place in my heart. Tom Wilson is amazing in it. The unsung hero of the trilogy.
@heyitsshadz
@heyitsshadz 7 дней назад
They can't call the police that quickly since Marty had to find a payphone to call 911. By then, preventing the incident moot.
@Flyingcar100
@Flyingcar100 7 дней назад
After you adjust for inflation the $300.00 in damage to Biff’s car in 1955 would be about $3,500.00 today.
@0okamino
@0okamino 6 дней назад
And $3,500 (about $41,000 now) is more than most new cars would cost in 1955.
@PepperSprayed-bc5de
@PepperSprayed-bc5de 8 дней назад
If I may, three parent-child recommendations: "Gremlins" (1984 - Joe Dante, under the Spielberg realm) "Honey, I Shrunk The Kids" (1989 - Disney spectacle, with all the pyrotechnics and bells & whistles) "Matinee" (1993 - Again, Joe Dante / A take on the William Castle/1950s gimmicky horror-sci-flick, set against the anxiety of the Cuban Missile Crisis, Florida, October, 1962. I love this little movie.) Thank you. I have been enjoying your videos. Do you have a Patreon page?
@GenerationMediaReaction
@GenerationMediaReaction 8 дней назад
Thanks - we have seen Gremlins already, otherwise i agree it's perfect. Maybe we revisit it sometime in the future. Honey I shrunk the kids is interesting as i dont know it very well ... is it decent quality? We don't have a Patreon page
@RebornLeveller
@RebornLeveller 7 дней назад
@@GenerationMediaReaction I too would love to see you watch Honey I shrunk the kids. It's one of my favouriters from that time period. And still holds up really well in my opinion (I rewatched it a few years ago). The sequels are of lesser quality (especially the third one), but the original is a classic in my eyes.
@GaryCain-qf5vi
@GaryCain-qf5vi 7 дней назад
My comment in 1/2 about Back to the Future ride at Universal Studios, I forgot to mention when you get into the DeLorean and take off into the future at high speed, Biff is chasing 😀 you! Just a little teaser before you start 2&3. Peace✌️ and Love❤️ Gary😊 great reaction👍
@Hugh-S
@Hugh-S 7 дней назад
Back to the future part 4, Marty becomes a Raging alcoholic because he didn't get professional therapy, the memory of his mum kissing him in the car was just too much lol.
@0okamino
@0okamino 6 дней назад
But she’s so h… she’s so h… thin!
@bobbuethe1477
@bobbuethe1477 7 дней назад
24:50 Marty calls the old man on the bench "Red." Remember the sound truck in 1955 saying "Re-elect Red Thomas as Mayor."
@GenerationMediaReaction
@GenerationMediaReaction 7 дней назад
Oh wow, didn't spot this. Another little detail!
@bobbuethe1477
@bobbuethe1477 7 дней назад
@@GenerationMediaReaction I only found out about it a month ago.
@bobbuethe1477
@bobbuethe1477 7 дней назад
You like the concept of a son going back in time to help his father? Then you need to watch "Frequency" (2000) starring Dennis Quaid and Jim Caviezel. Great film for Father's Day.
@andrewriley6862
@andrewriley6862 8 дней назад
I'm so happy that you are going to finish the trilogy. Marty will definitely have a great character ark and learn valuable life lessons before the finallee .love the channel.
@GenerationMediaReaction
@GenerationMediaReaction 2 дня назад
I hope so too! The first sequel will be uploaded tomorrow.
@matttyree1002
@matttyree1002 8 дней назад
Most movies about time travel don't take into account that the earth is moving around the sun, the sun is flying thru space around the milky way, and the milky way is moving thru the universe. Traveling thru time would mean the earth is in a different spot in space than when you started, so you'd end up floating in space, or deep inside the planet.
@GenerationMediaReaction
@GenerationMediaReaction 8 дней назад
Absolutely! In stories and linear narrative, time travel is a plot device to serve a different purpose, usually to do with revisiting past decisions and outcomes of decisions in the present
@0okamino
@0okamino 6 дней назад
Doc would certainly realize that as well, so compensating for that is something I just took as being inherent to how the flux capacitor interacts with space-time. With Doc’s admiration of Einstein, I think it would be funny if that ended up being connected to some property of quantum entanglement that Einstein considered absurd.
@user-sy5vv4ze3h
@user-sy5vv4ze3h 8 дней назад
I think Marty does grow, although it isn’t shown explicitly. He starts off like his father, lacking in self-confidence. However, confronted by his father’s lack of self-confidence in the past, Marty realizes and addresses his father’s problem. The fact that he could do this and succeed implies that he has changed himself in the process.
@GenerationMediaReaction
@GenerationMediaReaction 8 дней назад
I think him playing guitar at the dance is a form of growth for him also
@tanisdevelopment
@tanisdevelopment 7 дней назад
When Marty wakes up after his adventure, and finds his family changed for the better, you may notice him carrying an envelope. There's a missing couple of scenes. First, there was meant to be a scene BEFORE he meets Doc at the mall where he puts his audition tape in an envelope, ready to send it to a studio, but he chickens out and throws it in the bin. AFTER his adventure he wakes up, takes it out of the bin, and has the confidence to submit it. (You see it in his hand, and then on the counter-top.) Unfortunately, without those scenes (which I read back in 1985 in the novelisation) we miss Marty's arc.
@GenerationMediaReaction
@GenerationMediaReaction 7 дней назад
@@tanisdevelopment This is really interesting, thank you fort sharing, Agreed this would have completed his arc. Doesn't seem it would have added much screen time. Strange choice to cut it out.
@andreadeamon6419
@andreadeamon6419 8 дней назад
Need to also remember that back then there were only pay phones. If you didn't know where 1 was - you had to drive all over to find one. Another Christopher lloyd movie you might enjoy - angels in the outfield.
@andreadeamon6419
@andreadeamon6419 8 дней назад
30 years ahead this trip - and martys first trip back
@matttyree1002
@matttyree1002 8 дней назад
31:54 This is definitely one of those movies that you have to watch more than once, you notice so many things on subsequent viewings :)
@GenerationMediaReaction
@GenerationMediaReaction 8 дней назад
Absolutely
@PepperSprayed-bc5de
@PepperSprayed-bc5de 8 дней назад
"Parking" was a euphemism for "necking," kissing ("going to second base.") In a car, of course. A fascinating chapter in American moviegoing was the advent of the teen-themed horror film of the late-1950s. With the advent and rise of television in the early-'50s, fewer people attended their neighborhood movie house on a weekly, or more frequent, basis. Hollywood studios combatted this in-home trend by introducing Cinemascope, Panavision, Vista-Vision, of course 3-D (It's comin' right at ya' - in THREE dimensions), among other gimmicks to put asses back into theater seats. Interestingly, one area of film where early-television could NOT compete was horror films. With the post-WW2 Baby-Boomers reaching their teenaged years, they became a fertile market for theater and especially drive-in fright flicks of all kinds; from William Castle, with his "Macabre," :House On Haunted Hill" and "The Tingler," and more, utilizing all manner of gimmicks from glow-in-the-dark flying plastic skeletons to wiring seats so patrons could be buzZzZed at key moments, to teen-angst-horror maestro Herman Cohen and his work for American-International Pictures, with iconic titles such as "I Was A Teenage Werewolf," "I Was A Teenage Frankenstein," "How To Make A Monster," to name of few. Flush with disposable cash and their own steel-&-chrome hotrods with tail-fins, teenagers crowded drive-in theaters by the millions, watching a young Michael "Little House on the Prairie" Landon, steeped in his adolescent torment, transform into a werewolf before their eyes - this kinda' stuff was not being marketed at home by Lucille Ball or Jackie Gleason or Milton Berle on TV. No, no. Imagine yourself a young dude lookin' to score with his girl. Take her to the drive-in, and put your arm around her as she winces in fright from the hokum on the screen. Then, make your move . . . Picture all of the steamed windows.
@GenerationMediaReaction
@GenerationMediaReaction 8 дней назад
Is this the voice of experience?!
@PepperSprayed-bc5de
@PepperSprayed-bc5de 8 дней назад
@@GenerationMediaReaction, as having been born in 1969, I missed the parking-generation - by a generation. (Darn.) My exposure to these wonderfully schlocky little classics derived from syndicated television throughout the late-'70s and early-'80s. My family moved from Queens, New York City to Putnam, Connecticut (about two hours away), where we would receive the signal for many independent TV channels, such as WLVI-Channel 56, Boston, Massachusetts. Every Saturday, from 1 - 3:00 P.M., the Creature Double Feature would air. Ah, those were the days . . . Link, intro: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-_DRYnK6b9sc.html If you are interested, below is a link to the feature "I Was A Teenage Werewolf" (1957). It is now in the public domain. It is actually a pretty nifty chiller. It's all there - teenagers being manipulated by adults, so much drama/trauma. Good make-up effects and some interesting camera-work during the "attacks," notably in a high school gymnasium. Bankrolled for $100,000, the film went on to gross over $2-million . . . and spawned a sub-genre cottage industry. The most important part of a teen-horror flick? The pop song, performed in the film. This one has a doozy. I love it. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-DmdasKbpsdk.html
@joekerr7975
@joekerr7975 8 дней назад
Your are not watching reviews with your son. I've always seen this channel as a man watching movies with himself as a child! You must have your own Delorean Time Machine in the garage😅
@GenerationMediaReaction
@GenerationMediaReaction 8 дней назад
Every week, I ask him if he wants to stop doing it. He always says 'no'.
@GregInHouston2
@GregInHouston2 5 дней назад
Plot hole - How did the keys get in the trunk?
@laurab68707
@laurab68707 8 дней назад
You will love the other two movies. IMO, this is the greatest movie trilogy of all time. Please note the original actress that played Jennifer could not be in the sequels so the actress, Elisabeth Shue, took that role.
@GenerationMediaReaction
@GenerationMediaReaction 8 дней назад
thank you! we look forward to it!
@matttyree1002
@matttyree1002 8 дней назад
0:57 One major plot hole here is that there's a whole 60 seconds worth of 10:04 pm in which the lightning COULD strike, so there's no way for them to know "precisely" when the lightning strike happens.
@chrisf_yt
@chrisf_yt 8 дней назад
Marty tells Doc that the clock is struck at precisely 10:04 pm. Now, how does Marty know that? He doesn't. Does the flyer he was handed at the beginning of the movie contain that info? No idea. But it very well could, as if you know anything about clocks, its gears would be able to tell you exactly when it was struck and stopped. Now, Marty knows ofc nothing about clocks and how they work, but it's not implausible that whatever news articles and flyers in the movie were written with that information available: exactly when the clock was struck and thus stopped - which we're told is at precisely 10:04 pm.
@matttyree1002
@matttyree1002 8 дней назад
@@chrisf_yt I think the idea is that you can see what time the clock currently reads, which is the time it was struck and stopped working, and they can see that in the picture of the clock on the flyer, so they know what time it was struck
@GenerationMediaReaction
@GenerationMediaReaction 8 дней назад
Once the minute hand moves to 10:04, there might be a mechanism that counts the seconds and if this mechanism stopped at zero (movement) seconds..... (?)
@chrisf_yt
@chrisf_yt 8 дней назад
@@matttyree1002 I know, I just offered a more technical solution to how one would be able to predict the exact time the clock stopped :D
@headrushindi
@headrushindi 5 дней назад
You must continue on with the PART 2 and Part three. this movie has 2 more films in the series
@GenerationMediaReaction
@GenerationMediaReaction 5 дней назад
Our next uploads will be Psrt 2 and Part 3
@0okamino
@0okamino 6 дней назад
Something from the future has ended up in 1955, and it’s not something Marty brought with him. Marvin Berry somehow has a Gibson ES-345 guitar (the one Marty plays at the dance), which weren’t produced until 1958. I’m pretty sure even Chuck Berry didn’t have one until the 1960s. Could the flux capacitor unintentionally be causing things to slip through? 😄
@GenerationMediaReaction
@GenerationMediaReaction 6 дней назад
Makes you wonder if the filmmakers knew this and chose to make a nod to Chuck Berry rather than being to cautious on the anachronisms
@marivera77
@marivera77 8 дней назад
Love your stuff but you got me yelling at my screen. Lol If the young-one doesn’t remember something and asks you what’s going to happen, I suggest you remain noncommittal and just let him see what unfolds instead of just telling him what’s going to happen. For example, the chuck berry phone call. I like your channel, introducing todays youth to the golden age of film. Keep going 👍
@GenerationMediaReaction
@GenerationMediaReaction 8 дней назад
Thanks, you're right, but it's difficult sometimes !
@RdP1921
@RdP1921 7 дней назад
Please stick the Ryan Reynolds film, The Adam Project, on your watch list. It’s heavily influenced by Back to the Future, and Stand by Me. Its great family adventure film.
@GenerationMediaReaction
@GenerationMediaReaction 7 дней назад
good shout - we have seen it though!
@user-vl3pj8lp8o
@user-vl3pj8lp8o 8 дней назад
Hi
@aranerem5569
@aranerem5569 8 дней назад
Hello, would you like to react to the movie Tarzan The Fearless?
@_BangDroid_
@_BangDroid_ День назад
That Brokeback Mountain comment was wild lol what on earth made you think of that?
@GenerationMediaReaction
@GenerationMediaReaction День назад
Meant to say Brokeback To The Future … the funny edit a few years ago!
@ofrabjousday1
@ofrabjousday1 7 дней назад
A few tidbits for you: 1. The reason the mall's name changed to Lone Pine is because Marty killed one of the two, escaping from the barn family. You thought he said "you killed my parents," but he said, "you killed my pine." 2. The reason they knew the precise time that Marty had left 1985 was because neither of them had changed the time machine's settings, and so when they turned the dashboard on, the original settings came back up. 3. One thing I noticed several views later was that at the end of the film when Marty sees his parents' new life and he falls to the floor, the father asks, "Did you hit your head?" That was a throwback to Marty hitting his head on the pavement when he was hit by the car. 4. Another one I noticed several years ago is in the earlier scene when Biff is berating George over crashing his car while drinking and driving, Biff exits the scene by saying to Marty, "Say hi to your mom for me," a foreshadowing of the other important car scene, where Biff is trying to take advantage of Lorraine. Finally, another thing I'd noticed on this very viewing was that Doc comes back to warn Marty and Jennifer about their kids. Therefore, that's a throwback to Marty visiting his own parents before THEY had kids. The update is that Marty and Jennifer currently don't have kids. Always something to spot with subsequent viewings.
@AardvarkApocalypse
@AardvarkApocalypse 7 дней назад
Have you guys seen the 1986 movie Short Circuit?
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