Alice madness returns was great and the fact that it includes American Mcgee Alice is even better that game was incredible. I got it for 3 dollars on psn so worth it
I was very excited about Alice but I was pretty disappointed by the game's level design. Some levels are so short, others are irritatingly long, but I just didn't feel they made a fluent combat system. Maybe my expectations were too high at the time, but I heard Madness Returns made tremendous improvements.
I see you guys got the copy of Illbleed i sent you. It goes for like $80 online these days (I bought it before it became a cult classic), but i felt that you guys would appreciate it the most. And yes, this is one of those games were you really should RTFM.
It definitely has it's charms after you figure out WTF is going on. I didn't figure out everything at the time we made this video (as you can probably see). I'm surprised I never heard of this back when the Dreamcast was current. Thanks again! :)
Game Sack hey guys, yup know that if you want to complete red dead 100% you kill any innocent people at all. if affects your completion rate no matter if you pay your bounty or not.
Yeah, it came out in 2001 after the Dreamcast was discontinued and I was only aware of it because I saw a preview in Electronic Gaming Monthly. It really was an under the radar release at the time.
Awfully generous of you. I still have this game from when it was new. I was only 16 or 17 and don't remember buying it, so my dad must have. I'd love to sell it since I don't play it or want it.
Y'know a possible cool idea for an episode would be "Games that were supposed to be something else", like how this Outlander game was gonna be a Mad Max game or how Journey to Silius was gonna be a Terminator game. I wonder how many other games like that are out there?
I can confirm: When it came out, American McGee's Alice was amazing visually. I remember when I first got to the room at 15:50, I stood there gawking for several minutes at everything going on. Plus, it has what's probably one of the most underrated game soundtracks ever composed (from Chris Vrenna of industrial music production fame).
Alice Madness Returns is such an underrated game. I love that game so very much, that I actually preordered it when it first came out. EA actually offered the soundtrack for a free download for preorders, but you had to get an EA account . . . I got the soundtrack off Amazon instead.
Dave, you actually READ the dilogy of Alice? I am proud of you. No, seriously, I would never expect a young American who grew up in the 80s - 90s to have read the books.
I did read them and I really enjoyed them. It's funny because I read them on my Nintendo DS. Well I read the first one on my DS as there was a release called "100 Classic Books". I think I just bought "Through the Looking Glass" at the book store after I finished the first.
Actually, Lewis Carroll did make up the stories for children while on a boat ride. It does have a lot of humour in it that children wouldn't understand, though.
Sin and Punishment: Star Successor is a much better example of what Counterforce was trying to be. The controls feel a little better and there was much more care put into it all around.
Alice madness returns is one of those hidden gems you just have to play. I picked up a copy of this game from some bargain bin sale and didn't think too much of it. But once I played it I wondered how such a great game could be so obscure.
Yea, I have to play most games and movies with subtitles to understand the american accent. I just wish they had them at the cinema. Thank Joe for subtitles!!
Oh, god Illbleed is one of THE most straight up insane games I've ever played. The guy in LOVE with a giant worm..."Let's go back to hell together!", and the toy Indiana Jones pastiche chasing after a doll with her giant ass pointed right in the camera "SEXY DOLL!". Holy crap.
I'm been watching so many "Game Sack" episodes this past week and now a new one, hooray! The Sega vs. Nintendo thing you guys have reminds me of me and my brothers as kids and cracks me up. Keep doing what you do!
Really glad to see another one of these episodes. I think they are a good idea. We are game collectors here and sometimes it does feel pretty stupid to pick up all these games and not play them right away. I've got a huge backlog but I know i'll play them all eventually. I'm sort of living vicariously through you guys with these episodes. As always, I love everything ya'll do and i'm always happy to see a new episode. Also, I love Joe's sass, don't ever change man. Love you guys!!
I bought Xenoblade, The Last Story, and Pandora's Tower since they were all games that Project Rainfall was trying to get localized years ago. Funny enough, I didn't play much of the first two and my copy of Pandora's Tower is still un-open. I'll get to them...eventually.
Never played God of War series till it came out for PSP then went back and played the PS2 originals then re-bought on PS3 (and GOW 3), what a good time. Can't wait for PS4 follow up.
I was gonna make a joke about how Dave passed up 2 super rare games that got really expensive to buy Lost in Shadow. But then I looked at Amazon, and The Last Story and Xenoblade aren't are pricey as I had expected. They still cost more than Lost in Shadow, but not by a ton surprisingly.
I own several games I never got around to playing, both physical and digital. Silent Hill Homecoming, Silent Hill Downpour, Beyond Two Souls are the only physical games I can think of that I have never played that I own. I should probably try, but I need to be in the right frame of mind when it comes to playing video games, right now I am having difficulty in a relationship. As soon as that's resolved, I will get back to playing the games I own.
Lost in Shadow was a breath of fresh air! I got it the day it released in 2011, but didn't get to play it until the Summer of 2014. It had an atmosphere similar to the masterpiece ICO. I just wish the game looked good on a modern TV.
I have next to no clue about subtitles on RU-vid. I know people can submit their own and I can approve them. There are supposedly auto-generated ones as well, but again I have no clue how those work.
I've never tried it, but there is an option for owners to upload a plain text transcript that tries to automatically sync up with the video - support.google.com/youtube/answer/2734796?hl=en&ref_topic=3014331 - unless you want to do full captioning.
I think the greatest thing the Wiimote brought us was unlocking your character from his aiming. It is like a twinstick shooter you can aim at something you are moving away from, or keep on target while dodging.
I actually enjoyed a good deal of games on my Wii but I don't think it ever did as much for me as the gamecube games I played on it and my gamecube before it. Sadly the PC world has me consumed now. I swore I would never get another console but Soul Calibur 2 with Link and Fzero GX grabbed me in and the Wii being a smaller Gamecube I had to stay. I really want another console to take me down that road again.
I actually QA tested Alice back in the day for EA. At the time I really enjoyed it with the exception of the alice vision makes it feel like you need to use it all the time which slows the game down. And the water level is really long and annoying. Over all a really fun game though.
Nah, I think Dave made a good choice picking Lost in Shadow... I mean, if he doesn't have time for a long-ass game that he's probably not gonna play through, then Xenoblade is definitely not for him... I mean, it really wasn't for me, but I always wanted to play Lost in Shadow but never got around to it... I will someday, the game looks great, and it will be a nice getting to experience Hudson's swan song...
Illbleed is a great game. I'm ashamed to say I still haven't finished it, but once you get your head around the gameplay and get passed the first stage, the game should click for you. I think a lot of the appeal is the weird stages and the delightfully twisted sense of humor the developers brought to the game. It's one of the most unique and entertaining games I've played.
Really glad you got around to playing American McGee's Alice 1&2. I think you'll the first one has better balance and story but the second one is prettier and controls better. I'd love for you to give an update on these once you beat them and maybe address current status of the movie rumors which been going on forever.
My backlog is SUPER HUGE. Thanks for reminding me :P. I really need to get to Bravely Default, Assassins Creed Brotherhood, and Bioshock 2, among many, many, others.
Alice is one of my favorite PS3 titles. American McGee is a real nice guy, too. That shadow game reminds me of Contrast, a game that i have the OST to on my channel
I played American McGees Alice way back and absolutely loved the game! I heard about the new one but never got around to playing it. I didn't know it came out in the ps3. I'll have to look for a copy.
I think the same company that programmed Illbleed also programmed Blue Stinger and you know how the lip syncing was in that game. Sometimes Elliot would talk, but Dog's mouth would move. Sometimes Dogs would talk, but you'd hear Elliot's voice. Sometimes everyone's mouth would be moving and no one was talking.
Alice (the first one) was a fantastic game for the PC (with an AMAZING soundtrack to boot!) although it did get a little long in the tooth toward the end. It was still pretty damn good, and I recommend playing through it whenever you get the chance. While Madness Returns was also very good, I felt that the soundtrack wasn't nearly as good as the original, and the gameplay got old a LOT faster. Again, it's not a bad game, but it does get quite mindless after a while, and boredom can set in. The one definite positive I can give it is the fact that the game looks amazing in terms of art direction. It's a little buggy here and there, but it still makes quite a nice screen shot game.
I'm pretty sure the Mad Hatter has the same VA as Ichabod Crane in Wolf Among Us. Funny thing is the characters even look similar. If you didn't play Red Dead Redemption back when it was released then you missed all the hilarious glitches like the Bird People, Donkey Lady and the Cougar Man. They should never have patched them out because the game was actually better with them in.
You should play Last Story sometime! It's pretty short for an RPG (15 hours or less, most likely), and a lot of fun. My favorite part of it is knocking over bowls of fruit or throwing banana peels, then watching passers-by slip and fall. I even did this once right before triggering a serious cutscene, and then the whole time the cutscene was playing out, NPCs were slipping and falling and screaming in the background -- it was hilarious!
My favorite part was the comedic cutscene late in the game. I can't say much more without spoiling it though. :) But yeah, it was definitely pretty short as I had finished it in less than a week; even with a busy schedule.
Wyrdwad I'm still wanting to play this and Pandora's tower. I was able to get a copy of Xenoblade back in 2012 (hard game to find) and put dozens of hours in to it. it's actually one of my favorite RPGs ever. the Wii had so many good games and was fun to collect for cause most games were cheap. you could have a library of at least 50 good Wii games.
That ending was not expected. Dave, I hope that teaches you not to pee on Joe's games in his house. Good stuff here. I'm also at a point where if a game advertises many hours of gameplay, I look elsewhere. That goes double if it's heavily story driven. Also, this episode reminded me why I preferred game design before sample playback was so easy it became cool to have characters spamming you with quips, usually not funny. Love the show.
Alice: Madness Returns is one of my favorite games and one of very few platforming action games I like. Always loved the Alice stories as a child so I played the original as a teen on the mac. Being someone who's dealt with mental health issues of my own and those around me and has been abused by the medical system before, some scenes in this game cut me straight to the core, but I love it's conclusion all the more for it. It truly is damn near criminal that the kickstarter for American McGee's take on the Wizard of Oz failed to reach its goals, because very little would have made me happier than to see how he tackled that story.
If anyone wants a Wii game that's "like Space Harrier", I suggest sticking with Sin & Punishment: Star Successor. The quality is leagues above what Counter Force has to offer.
Totally agree with Game Force Boulder being a great store. I find ways to make it be on my way home from work even though it takes me 20 min out of my way.
Alice: Madness Returns is actually one of my favourite games, ever. Love the gameplay, the story and the creative visuals. Thanks for covering this one, guys!
Dead Island or at the very least Dying Light. Both made by the same developer Techland. Situated in Poland btw. As I've mentioned before in a previous comment regarding guilty pleasures those are some seriously overlooked gems. I know they haven't sold or been reviewed very well but please buy em. You'll like them em. Trust me.
Game Force Longmont is a a good store for sure and they've treated us very nicely with some great deals. I've only been to Games Ahoy twice and while they have some nice stuff up there it's kind of pricey. Plus Loveland isn't really a close drive from the Denver area.
I am envious of you getting to play Red Dead Redemption for the first time. That was and still is one of the best games of last generation and I am totally surprised they didnt port it over to ps4 xbox one to squeeze a few more dollars out of it. If you liked Lost in Shadows for the Wii, you should get Into the Rain for PS3 it is very similar. I felt Rain was on par with Ico for PS2.
kakashi101able Yea, it seems like Joe responds, usually, to people he perceives to be dicks and Dave responds to people saying "Hi Dave" or "I find Dave's corny humor amusing."
Alice madness returns is such a good game, I think maybe the most hours I have ever put into a game just replaying over and over to escape and be in that environment.
Michigan Winters are really rough and last almost all year. The perfect climate for gaming! My backlog is gross. Like around 500 titles and growing. I can always buy way more than i can play. Stuck on 2d anime fighters and shmups so anything else takes a backseat. Owning a raspberry pi with mame doesn't help any either.
I'm glad you did Illbleed first. I eventually plan on doing a remake of the series. We're going to start a prologue first. Look forward to the developer "Hell's Bakery" soon (tm).
I honestly can't believe you haven't at least played RDR before now. Don't forget the Undead Nightmare expansion, it's a really cool spin. Plus seriously, get Xenoblade Chronicles, Pandora's tower and The Last story, they're all incredible.
I bought both Alice games on PSN when they had a deal going. both games for $2.50. I have yet to play either, but after hearing Dave say how much he likes them, I might have to pull out my ps3.
