Passive aggressive??? That is bs . Is that some one who is holding their temper from not knocking your teeth down your throat. Same time saying look your getting on my nerves but I dont want to hurt you. Actually people who accuse people of passive aggressive should get their teeth knocked down their throat.
@@erniescullion8452 yeah right? I love that they bring out this much passion in you, that you would put that much thought into your comment. Again, Love these guys. (And I’m actually quoting what they’ve said about each other over the years in different interviews)
@@nocturnalron69 . I'm passionate. A person on accused me of passive Aggressive because I said I was disappointed that they couldnt take time to leave good feedback as I had posted same day within an hour of payment and I felt it wasn't the Gettysburg address to take a little time to send me a message that it had arrived and leave even 1 line of feedback. So it's such that I find it an improper phrase . Also its not applicable to every situation but people think they want up with up to date lingo make them sound /look interesting or intelligent. missuse it SERIOUSLY grates me. So yeah right?? What a come back einstein
I’ve been in bands since 1968. Creative people with fragile egos battling for control, coupled often, with money issues. That’s the way it is. I’ve witnessed many a slug fest, on and off stage. God help you if you end up on the road, sharing a hotel room with an asshole keyboard player or drummer. It can become a living hell...
....and Millions and Millions of Dollars. I cringe a bit however...because i've been playing in bands now for around 45 or so years...and, as i ponder retirement...i definitely can relate to the 'icky feeling...of how 'band life'...with other 'bass playing elements'... Lol!....can be. or 'Guitar'. or 'Keys'. or...the fucking Singer. Yup. Seen and done it all. really takes a lot to be in a band. much much more than the average bloke might realize. These guys are amazing. What a History...
Yeah but that drum fill he just piles into during So Lonely around 2:10 is indeed LAUGHABLE. It doesn't land on the 'one', in fact nowhere near. IMPOSSIBLE to play along to! For one of the best bands ever (one of my faves obviously, followed em from the start), that's a shocker. :) PLUS if it's YOUR song.....(Every Breath Your Take)....it's hard work when you have to be so guarded and measured in requesting that the drummer remove one flam.
@@Keepgoing42 That's BS. Everybody in band has a right to make suggestions or negotiate. Especially when a band member is a musical genius. Watch the backstage vid for the Pink Floyd "reunion" - 4 songs for a charity concert around 2008. The guys are telling Nick how to end a song. And Nick is saying "Sure, ok". As he should.
@@Keepgoing42 Correct, I've never been in A band. I've been in about 10 or 15 bands over many, many years. Some cover bands, but mostly originals bands, in which I was usually one of the singer/songwriters. Sometimes the songwriter (including me) had an idea on how the parts should be played. One time I had to tell the guitarist to play the riff the way I wrote it (because it was better and more unique than his generic idea).
Well, Stewart played a 7-beat fill and got out of time - Sting laughed and stopped the band. Stewart was the one saying how awesome his fill was. You're overlooking the fact that Sting is the bass player and is sure going to notice when the drummer loses the beat.
Not being a musician and The Police being my favorite band, it amazes me how 3 guys can come up with these sounds. For me, they are the greatest ever to combine their talents to create their sound. Andy and Stewart are the greatest players of their respective instruments, and Sting composed some of the greatest bass lines and melodies. There's no band for me who together were that great at their respective crafts. One of the biggest wishes in my life was to see them live, and I did at MSG in 2007. They were freakin amazing. I wish they had stayed together.
As of posting this comment, I’ve read all previous comments 😂 Half are Team Copeland, half are Team Sting. Guys, Sting and Copeland are still friends to this day, they’re just passionate about the music. I’ve played in many bands, and I can tell you from experience, this is extremely normal when you have multiple Alphas. But their love for the craft is what made the songs amazing. If you removed any one of the three members, it would not sound the same. This is my all-time favorite band!
That's awesome when a band acknowledges in terms of ticket sales and merchandise that they owe it to the fans to have a rivalry against each other to see who will make the greatest contribution to the tour. That's the mentality that every band should have.
The Police were The Beatles of the 80's, and finally gave us the reunion tour we never got from the Fab Four. They even had a similar kind of personality dynamic, with Andy as off-the-cuff as Ringo, Stewart seething like George, and Sting with enough ego to cover both John and Paul...
Totally wrong. Sting has been proving his surplus of talent by writing, evolving, touring and excelling at competencies in excess of just playing Police songs. Copeland is in a world that doesn't respect that and still thinks it is his band,, but without Sting writing the songs where would Stewart be? Where Sting has continued producing original music and playing with the finest musicians in the world because of reality accumen, cred and direction, he is too greater acomplished an artist to discredit and therefore who would be stupid enough not to trust in his vision. He is the writer. He's not arrogant just poorly listened to and cooperated with to realise a vision in the abscence of Copeland having one! I'm a drummer, I respect Stewart's earlier command of the songs but he sure picks the weirdest times to disagree. That's when Sting is unamused and is mislabeled arrogant. Most geni-i suffer fools too often. This is those times.
They're so good together because they always fought with each other and had that ultimate chemistry, AND are all top musicians. People that haven't been in bands probably can't relate. I do hope they do another reunion. They were sooooo good last time around!
Amazing that they were ever able to put together such an impressive repertoire of songs. Watching genius Sting trying to get what he wants out of genius Stewart who hears it totally differently is crazy frustrating sitting here. Can't imagine what it was like living it.
They were all fantastic musicians. I'm glad I got to see the Police at the height of the band's fame. Rochester, NY, Summer of 1983 at now long demolished Aquinas (Hollander) Stadium. I remember winning tickets to the Synchronicity tour after naming the song question from a local radio station of the Hollies, "He Ain't Heavy, He's My Brother." Concert line-up - The Flock of Seagulls, The Fixx, and the Police. First song of the Police, "King Of Pain," Sting on Bass, a back-up musician on key boards behind him attempting to play the opening chords to King of Pain, but is doing the wrong chords.. Sting, quite irritated, walks back, bends over the keyboard and shows the player how to play the correct chords. Anyway, a fantastic outdoor, afternoon concert. But my one take away was that funny opening moment with "King Of Pain." 🙂
They all care enough about the music to fight for it. No one is an ass hole. All bands go through this. Also, the Sting slander is ridiculous because at the end of the day, HE WROTE THE HITS!! We wouldn't even know them if he didn't . The FULL Police sound must have Andy's sound and execution of Sting's ideas and the monster drumming of the brilliant Stewart Copeland. All are essential.
This appears to be a classic of example of an unstoppable force repeatedly meeting an immovable object. And, Andy... simultaneously existing in a state of being and killing it on the guitar until observed.
Such a great band, all geniuses in their own way, but how they managed (each other) for 5 years is truly astounding. It must've been the most challenging assault couse imagineable, yet their output was always top quality. Over the years I've come to the conclusion that this band deserves to be in the Top 3 of the greatest bands ever.
I tend to agree with you. They were such great musicians together and yet somehow they aren’t really taken seriously in the same way other great bands are. Maybe it’s the faux reggae sound or maybe it’s just people resent Sting?
@@andrewbenson4439 I think it's probably true that people aren't keen on Sting, but then that alone is still so misguided really. Sting, for all his apparent pretentiousness, is a great musician and some of his solo albums are right up there. I just don't have the answer, but as a band The Police really were top drawer.
@@alexjewell2351 I agree that Sting is a fantastic song writer and musician. My first gig was the Dream of the Blue Turtles tour. I loved the Police as a young kid. But a can also see that he has a pretentious side too.
Pretty good comparison, indeed. At the end, John and George seemed to be pissed off by the way Paul constantly try to impose his songs to the others and how they should, exactly, play them notes by notes, turning the Beatles into his backing band...
I had a friend who ran sound in the 80’s. Even back then, they were literally beating the crap out of each other before and after the shows. He was witness to the violence.
They are three individuals that have strong but extremely different characters they are also intelligent methodical people and sometimes they are out of sync but boy when they are in sync they are a fantastic musical force of nature plus I think we all agree that they are virtuoso’s in their chosen instruments percussion/bass guitar/lead,rhythm guitar.
I love this band. I have owned every album, watched their live video "Police Around the World"... I saw Bring On the Night, watched so many videos, and have spent much time reading about them, their comments, their pursuits, etc etc etc. I am a huge fan, and they will remain one of my favorite groups, some of my favorite songs, favorite sounds, of all time. Having said that: I saw them on this tour, in Northern CA, and I absolutely hate to say: they were terrible. They were Not playing as a unit, together, at all... the grooves fell apart, pushing and pulling awkwardly... more wrong notes from Andy than I've ever heard in any live performance. I couldn't believe it. Bummed me out, because I know what they are capable of doing. And I still love them...
Rush in an interview spelled it out. With Rush, the basis was friendship, then virtuosity. With the Police, it's just virtuosity. They are so good together, but no relational glueThey are greater than the sum of their parts.
I noticed with Sting, he likes to do new arrangements of songs, whether police songs, or even his own solo stuff. He isn't like Rush, that plays the songs exactly the same way over and over. You can hear an d see, even the way he sings a lyric of a Police song, he changes it. So that may be where some conflict comes in, if Stewart or Andy may have expected to just play it rote.
Really jazz is a lot of fun and difficult, and sting is an amazing jazzist. Rush is not. Rock n roll is very mathematical, where jazz, blues can be improvised.
and that in part is what ruined it (Sting) for me. Always rearranging and eF'ing with the tunes. Like seriously pal? We didn't come to hear some interpretation of a tune we spent money on, we can to hear...that tune.
I don’t think Sting understands the value, for the audience, of playing the music the same way night after night. Hearing it played the same way as it was heard on the radio allows the audience to sing along with the band (beyond the obligatory “ee-yo” sections of the songs at a Police concert)Pearl Jam is another band that plays its songs the way they are on the album-for that reason.
No matter how many times i watch this i still get goosebumps and tears in my eyes when i hear the Roxanne jam as it brings me right back to the stadiums and arena i went to during the reunion tour. Happy, happy days. 🚓👮🏼
It's always a fine line in the creative process of stating your case and getting what you want and getting the others on your side vs. pressing too hard and pissing everybody off. Ahhhh the arts :-)
I still to this day, don’t know how 3 musicians sound so full…it has to be the combination of the busy drumming, the chorus/ effect guitar, filling it up, smooth bass lines, good strong vocal…tell me?
This early rehearsal video was shot in 2007. The last Police concert had been in 1984. Sting had performed in NINE world tours after the Police and over a thousand concerts during that time. While Stewart and Andy were also very productive in various music genres, they had done a few small tours and maybe 200-300 live shows between them. So, of course, Sting was going to be way ahead in playing, timing and arrangements for Police songs.
I think the tension between Sting and Stewart actually makes them better musicians. They seem to bring out the perfectionist in each other . Andy Summers seems a lovely bloke who doesn't get involved in their arguments.
His guitar work is amazing in The Police. Every Breath You Take is now regarded as a standard, and is probably one of the greatest songs ever made. I'd bet money that wouldn't be the case if Andy's guitar work hadn't been on it.
As much as I respect Sting he would have done better to let Andy and Stewart to play what they felt. His way or the highway method was uncalled for and lead to the death of a great band.
That is not what great musicians do. Sting is Sting for a reason. His career kept growing after the police unlike the other two who i madly respect as well. They are great players, Sting is a great player but also a great composer and thats why he had the chore of organizing the band how to play a specific song
Agreed, Andy and Stewart are brilliant musicians, but at the end of the day it was Stings songs and he has his vision of how he wants it to sound. They were awesome and ended way to early, but it's their journey and I think it worked out well over all. Sting wanted more control and sound so he went solo. It's his life and it's what he wanted and needed at the time, so whether you like it or not, it is what it is. Cheers.
@@majortom4543 Yeah, but also he's playing with Stewart Copeland who is one of the best rock drummers. And I'd think that Copeland's playing style had a major major role in making the Police stand out.
@@majortom4543 He didn’t have to organize anything!! The songs were already written and iconic! Sting should’ve just let nature take it’s course!! To be honest, I saw that reunion tour and if not for being such a huge admirer of The Police and their music, I would say they played less than stellar. That, my friend, is due to ‘Sting’s’ constant meddling, tinkering and ‘reaffirming’ that he is the leader. Yes, musicianship is work but it should also be fun and Sting, shown here saying, “I can’t fire anybody’, proves what a ‘self-absorbed’, egomaniac he has become! Yes, wildly talented and successful but also, a bit too much ego! It was, after all, Stewart’s band and in the end, it became Sting’s band. Truth is, Sting is the reason they became so successful but to shove it down the other member’s throats was just ‘tasteless’ and ‘classless!’ Totally unlike the image Sting attempts to portray! Oh yes, he’s English. Ahhhh!
Hearing Sting openly say he wishes the joint creative process and rehearsing was more like a game of Chess that he could have more control over, just makes you realise how unbelievably lucky he was to have those 2 stay with it for the number years they did. Any lesser musicians than Stuart Copeland and Andy Summers would have walked. And they'd have been a 2-3 album band rather than a 7 album one.
That's a band where you have 3 leaders. No one wants to follow anyone else. Very difficult getting someone else to compromise when they think they should sound louder than you.
Just in the small bands I've been in over the years, I came to realisation that I would never want to contend with what comes along with being a major touring band...frankly just the inescapable monotony...and repetition. I never had to worry because I never had the chops for it, but just watching this confirms even if I did, I wouldn't it.
I would’ve loved to be a 4th member of this band. I’d be the quiet one who just plays, sits back, and enjoy the show of watching the others have a go at each other
No comparison between both bands, theyare great but in one side the charism, fresh and virtuosity of The Police members are incredible, I like Rush too but I feel them more squared not fresh and without that chemestry on image, virtuosism and music. Regards from Lima Peru. ✌🎸💥🔥👏
As a bassist I'm concerned about how Andy cannot tell that the tempo speeds up when the dynamics rise and the tempo never recovers. As a consequence, the song is faster in the end of it's duration.
Considering he wrote 95% of all the songs, it's more like a complete understanding of how the songs should be. Copeland, while I love his style, just comes off as a dick in this video.
@@richnewman You're missing the dynamics of a band. Sting is a talented musician but as a solo artist he's always teetering on the knife edge of 'clever' and self-congratulatory pretentious wank. He's done some good stuff, but there's a thousand times more soul in a single empty bar of 'Walking on the Moon' than everything else he's done solo combined. Opinions, eh? Like arseholes, everyone has one...
@@JamesHartnell Nobody is saying Sting isn't full of himself or arrogant/pretentious. We are saying he's the guy writing the hits. I don't care much for most of his solo stuff, but there's no denying he had a lot of hits. I can name a good ten or so without trying. Sting also wrote Walking on the Moon. Copeland is a fantastic drummer and a mediocre sound track composer. That's it. He's also quite arrogant and far more abrasive than Sting IMO.
@@richnewman yes, Sting did write those songs….he also trusted Stewart and Andy to write and play their own parts on the Police records. So what happened since then?
My biggest regret is not ever getting to see them live....Once they came to Copenhagen on this last tour and I had to work..I was gutted and still am...
True artist. They are never truly happy with the product, they feel it can be done better. When he went on his own, I think most of us realized without Gordon the Police were eh.
Lol, I can definitely see how Sting could be a fkn pain in the a$$ and a vibe killer lol. I can see he’s definitely the control freak in the band , He’s talented af but he needs to not make it so much work and let everyone have fun too.
Somehow it's hard to imagine the mild mannered Andy Summers going ballistic with the likes of Sting and Stewart although he may get stuck in the crossfire. The strong personalities and flamboyant style of these guys are what sets them apart from other power trios. I heard that Andy still has some animosity over not getting a writing credit for Every Step You Take. I think the band profits with the tension to an extent. Behind the scenes it must at times be intense....
2:05 Incredible! just hilarious......What a liason man! The only reason that sting played off iIS because Sting was laughing so freaking hard at Stewart! Just great!
At the end of the day Sting wrote most of material and safed the band in many ways, reason why he went SOLO! Copeland was just a drum collecting a pay cheque on stings work. Sting did fine on he's own.
