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Welcome to Bad Gear, the show about the world's most hated audio tools. Today we are going to talk about the Roland Boutique JP-08. Can this compact digital sound module capture the vintage synth magic and 80s sound of the OG Jupiter-8?
Chapters:
00:00 Intro tune
01:19 Overview
05:57 Hate
06:20 Jam 1
07:18 Jam 2
08:18 Finale
08:51 Verdict
10:11 Patreon Vocoder Shoutout

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@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 2 года назад
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@bauhnguefyische667
@bauhnguefyische667 2 года назад
Needs everything it doesn’t have to sound good at hipster prices🤣
@privatenumber1413
@privatenumber1413 2 года назад
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@Bleeeaaoop
@Bleeeaaoop 4 дня назад
😢🎉🎉​@@bauhnguefyische667
@AlexBallMusic
@AlexBallMusic 2 года назад
Whilst the JP-08 is tiny, the Jupiter-X is massive and very heavy. I made a video called "vintage synth nut trys Roland's latest gear" and the thumbnail is me holding it on my shoulder. Moments later I tried lifting it over my head for a shot and the weight was too much for me and it dropped. In a split second I bent forward and caught it on my back. I was then bent over with a Jupiter on my back. I slowly crouched down in a scene reminiscent of World's Strongest Man meets Mission Impossible until I was lying flat. I then slid it off my back. I haven't told Roland that and it's their synth. In fact, they might be watching. Hi guys! Might go for the boutique next time.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 2 года назад
You are the Atlas of the synth world;)
@AlexBallMusic
@AlexBallMusic 2 года назад
@@AudioPilz Haha! Yeah. I like to think that a similar incident at the Roland factory lead to the invention of the Boutique range.
@torbenanschau6641
@torbenanschau6641 2 года назад
Ribbon and Medal of honour please for the super saviour of Synthesizers!
@EannaButler
@EannaButler 2 года назад
I guess that makes the Jupiter X a real 'killer synth'..
@glenesis
@glenesis 2 года назад
I'm glad you survived to tell the tale!
@bottomtext7700
@bottomtext7700 2 года назад
I bought one and kept it in the box. Gonna give it to my future grandchild so they can trade it for food during the coming Mad Max era.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 2 года назад
You're a good future grandparent;)
@carlschieferrealestate
@carlschieferrealestate 9 месяцев назад
❤so you mean now ? We’re living beyond thunder dome 😢
@CadenceMusicStudio
@CadenceMusicStudio 2 месяца назад
hahahaha
@lo-firobotboy7112
@lo-firobotboy7112 2 года назад
The tweezers bit is brilliant! Roland should include a set with every Boutique purchase. Also....Guinea Pig Armour!! ( Your internet search history must raise a few eyebrows. )
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 2 года назад
My personal google algo minion is deeply depressed and questioning the meaning of its existence
@ropeburn6684
@ropeburn6684 2 года назад
I was just looking up the whole guinea pig armor meme, and voilà, RU-vid recommends this video.
@director2bob
@director2bob Год назад
cracked me up as well🤣
@CadenceMusicStudio
@CadenceMusicStudio 2 месяца назад
hahahaha
@djangofett4879
@djangofett4879 2 года назад
I had one of these and sold it as soon as the System 8 was released (and going for decent aftermarket discount). System 8 has the Jp-08 algorithm built in with 8 VOICES plus ju-06 and Jx-03 algorithm and the main system 8 engine (a total beast) and nice full size knobs and faders.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 2 года назад
Damn, do I need to get a System 8 now? ;)
@rdean150
@rdean150 2 года назад
I need to pick one of those up. Of the 4 Boutiques I own and the other couple I've tried, the JP-08 is easily the worst. The knobs and faders are impossible to dial in. There's way too much range in their tiny throws. It's just a terrible interface.
@dynho_b
@dynho_b 2 года назад
@@AudioPilz Don't get it coz it's not bad gear! :-p It would be nice if Roland would release more plug-outs though. E.g. a Jupiter 4 and a Juno Alpha module would be a nice addition.
@christianhowell1377
@christianhowell1377 2 года назад
The system 8 is just using 2 of the boutiques processors to achieve 8 voices.
@bauhnguefyische667
@bauhnguefyische667 2 года назад
Ah, You know true disappointment😡👍
@thestinkyweasel6297
@thestinkyweasel6297 2 года назад
This is my favorite channel. I came for the synth reviews, have had my mind blown by the spicy jams, and I always giggle or ROFLCOPTER through the episodes. Thank you for being you and entertaining us with your talents!
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 2 года назад
Thank you so much!!! ROFLCOPTER!!!
@djlocodoc
@djlocodoc 2 года назад
Bad gear never disappoints…always the video highlight of my week!!
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 2 года назад
Thank you so much!
@mixedatmidnight
@mixedatmidnight 2 года назад
Definitely
@thomasinlondon2849
@thomasinlondon2849 2 года назад
This episode was totally awesome. The original one liners and jokes just over flowed non-stop. I loved it. And I made it all the way through the show. I sometimes felt the speech pattern was starting to relax slightly and the host sounds better when more relaxed. Brilliant content and thanks for making and releasing it!
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 2 года назад
Thank you for the great feedback!!!
@Arehexes
@Arehexes 2 года назад
Oh that final track was so good. Warmed my bones up in this cold weather.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 2 года назад
Thank you so much!
@ShitStaindGod
@ShitStaindGod 2 года назад
Your videos are the only reason I haven’t sold my TB-3. You always manage to squeeze so much juice outta that little machine.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 2 года назад
Thanks! Such a great little synth!
@productamadeus8745
@productamadeus8745 Год назад
Never stop making these videos!!!! They are the best!
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz Год назад
Thank you so much!!!
@austinmitchell2652
@austinmitchell2652 2 года назад
Fantastic episode. Really loved the video for the final jam
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 2 года назад
Thank you!!!
@brynhendry2899
@brynhendry2899 2 года назад
I must say your workrate is incredible Great video as always.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 2 года назад
Thank you so much!
@stevelarson3229
@stevelarson3229 Год назад
I must say that there aren't any other gear review channels that I enjoy more. Thank you!!
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz Год назад
❤️❤️❤️Thanks❤️❤️❤️
@gooneybird808
@gooneybird808 2 года назад
also your jams are so well mixed and I just love this channel :)
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 2 года назад
Thank you so much!
@nexuzeb79
@nexuzeb79 2 года назад
Sir, u are a wizard with words! Always entertaining and hillarious, makes any rainy monday feel like waking up without a hangover at 04:00 in a rave!
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 2 года назад
Thank you so much!!!
@dannydr
@dannydr 2 года назад
Best way to start my weekend with the words: welcome to bad gear, the show about the world most hated audio tools😍👍🏻🙏💯
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 2 года назад
❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
@mrz80
@mrz80 2 года назад
Yep! And it's looking like this week's entry is actually earning the hate :D
@AutPen38
@AutPen38 Год назад
It ticks all the boxes.
@synthlord2368
@synthlord2368 2 года назад
Awesomeness! Another piece of gear I own. Looking forward to this one. Thanks Florian!
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 2 года назад
Thanks!
@mastercylinder1939
@mastercylinder1939 2 года назад
Imagine calling yourself Synthlord and admitting you own this turd.
@23bit76
@23bit76 2 года назад
@@mastercylinder1939 you must be one of the devine ear Lords?
@synthlord2368
@synthlord2368 2 года назад
@@mastercylinder1939 Wow.... Way to be a troll.
@paulcharlesworth9114
@paulcharlesworth9114 2 года назад
Definitely a multi watch video. Great content and lots of giggles. Thank you🙂
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 2 года назад
Thanks for watching!!!
@georgewilson2865
@georgewilson2865 2 года назад
Thank you for the entertainment!! Your videos tic all the boxes.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 2 года назад
Thanks!
@LouisSerieusement
@LouisSerieusement 2 года назад
that vocoder shoutout was really great ! I love your vocoder shoutout ^^
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 2 года назад
Thank you!!!
@NoyaD9
@NoyaD9 2 года назад
Makes me wanna meet Rocco Misco
@keefka
@keefka 2 года назад
I have 2 JP-08's chained together and love it!
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 2 года назад
Nice, does polychaining actually work?
@keefka
@keefka 2 года назад
@@AudioPilz Yeah! I got the full 8 voices. When you chain them together, any voices after the 4th go to the second one and all the settings are solely handled by the "main" JP (meaning the sliders and knobs don't respond on the second JP). It's pretty sweet, though you're still probably better off with a system-8 or Jupiter X
@HazyJ28
@HazyJ28 2 года назад
This little beast sounds so good. Wow. Blown away.
@tillschroder6992
@tillschroder6992 2 года назад
I love your show perfect to calm down after work
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 2 года назад
Thank you so much!
@ugufru
@ugufru 2 года назад
I have both this and the OG and love them both. To fit that sound engine into a backpack sized battery powered package makes it a great travel synth!
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 2 года назад
Wow, your retirement fund is set;)
@robbiewabisabi
@robbiewabisabi 2 года назад
Great video and music. Thank you for incorporating rip Taylor. He is a dear friend and does not get enough glitter work these days. Thanks for posting. See you next time.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 2 года назад
R.I.P. Taylor 😢😢😢
@robbiewabisabi
@robbiewabisabi 2 года назад
Oh no I just saw that he passed away 2 years ago
@jonpatchmodular
@jonpatchmodular 2 года назад
Dang it man, I'm in love with the 303 line of the first jam, it's a great one! That tension build-release at the end was cheff kiss.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 2 года назад
Thank you!!!
@concorde__
@concorde__ 2 года назад
I love that you do this show in front of a bookshelf rather than a studio like every other gear reviewer
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 2 года назад
Nice to hear that, thanks!
@kerzwhile
@kerzwhile 2 года назад
How can this channel only have 55k subs? Throw up a couple shorts.. love it!!!
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 2 года назад
Thank you!!! Working on it!
@actonspur5231
@actonspur5231 2 года назад
Over 66k now..
@butteo
@butteo 2 года назад
This is how all synth reviews should be done!
@adamoliver82
@adamoliver82 2 года назад
How did I miss this one! It's been one of my favourites, I'm laughing on my own more than once.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 2 года назад
Thanks!!!
@NikoNoxious
@NikoNoxious 2 года назад
loved the shout out to Dr mix! lmao. audioPilz u make the best synth videos man!
@NikoNoxious
@NikoNoxious 2 года назад
and nick over at sonic state lmao
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 2 года назад
Thank you!!! Nick is the GOAT!!!
@blipnosis2020
@blipnosis2020 2 года назад
Seriously, I laughed do hard at the tweezers gag! Your show is 👌 Thanks🙏🙌🖖
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 2 года назад
Thank you so much!!!
@skummelkatt
@skummelkatt 2 года назад
I used to own the JU-06 and sound wise it was great. I even became friends with the sliders. But the lack of polyphony was what finally made me sell it
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 2 года назад
Yeah, total buzzkill
@mrz80
@mrz80 2 года назад
Rule of thumb, manufacturers - in this day and age there's no real excuse for not having at least as many voices as your customers have fingers!
@rachelar
@rachelar 2 года назад
Why are they all doing this? Microkorg too, why four note in this day and age?
@afxtwinreverb
@afxtwinreverb 2 года назад
@@rachelar Because people buy those synths regardless the voices so why would they bother. Sadly there's a lot more hobbyist than musicians, which leads to a market of products "collect them all!" than serious musical equipment.
@Justaguy11199
@Justaguy11199 2 года назад
Whining about the lack of polyphony is more a lack of your creativity and/or talent then a design error.
@pimhansen6720
@pimhansen6720 2 года назад
That SE7EN reference is savage. I love it! XD Keep up the good work Mr. AudioPilz.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 2 года назад
Thanks!
@ianmccoy13
@ianmccoy13 2 года назад
@4:03 Florian just made a Black Metal Synth Album by accident. Now it's only a matter of time before we get to the JU-06A, Great work as always. Thanks for making such awesome music and videos!
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 2 года назад
Thank you! The unholy interval ;)
@beak_on_bong
@beak_on_bong 2 года назад
audiopilz posted = good day
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 2 года назад
Happy to hear that, have a nice weekend!
@tubeMonger
@tubeMonger 2 года назад
What was this show again about? ;-) JP-08 sounds actually pretty good. Entertaining yet again - thanks for sharing!
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 2 года назад
The sound is definitely not the issue with this one;)
@ozybrks
@ozybrks 2 года назад
wow, that second tune what you made in the video blow my mind
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 2 года назад
Thanks!
@XxChrisxXBedofRazors
@XxChrisxXBedofRazors 2 года назад
I remember suggesting on this one many moons ago... you finally did it 😆
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 2 года назад
Thanks again for the suggestion!!!
@XHALE303
@XHALE303 2 года назад
Finally Roland also made an appearance on bad gear....they're your most loyal subscribers 🤣
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 2 года назад
Their hitmen certainly are;)
@danielleohallisey4218
@danielleohallisey4218 2 года назад
Oh damn, I find myself pausing every three seconds to catch all the jokes. And I still had to go back three times to finally get the "Leias" of sound reference! Thanks for keeping us on our toes.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 2 года назад
Bad Gear is not a linear medium;) Thanks for watching (multiple times)
@PORRFNK
@PORRFNK 2 года назад
@@AudioPilz You are sort of the new Jexus, I mean, your video's are fun to watch and very informative, I watch them a few times over a weekend to catch it all. All the other channels are so serious. I am looking forward to every Friday. Also like Alex's channel. Please keep them coming
@MCBrainpower
@MCBrainpower 2 года назад
Superb episode…. Put a smile on my face more than once. The Jupiter 8 remains an all time favorite, the sounds are impeccable….I love the Roland System-8, the Jupiter 8 sounds are on point in that machine 🎹 Salute to the magnifying glass meme 👈🏼
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 2 года назад
Thanks!
@sillygoose4472
@sillygoose4472 2 года назад
Really loving your videos. Your skill in many genres, the humor, the editing, it's all great. Do you have a link for your music? I'm a fan and I haven't even heard anything other than demos from this series 🤣
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 2 года назад
Thanks! Full tracks and extended jams can be found on my Patreon (end of plug;)
@alvaroapablaza5471
@alvaroapablaza5471 2 года назад
I have two of these thinking more voices is a must but I hardly ever use them in the polychain mode. I do like to get weird with it, it has a broad range of sounds, and even though i never owned, seen or heard a jupiter 8 in person this will bring you back to the 80's no matter what.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 2 года назад
I was surprised by its versatility too!!!
@johndjameson
@johndjameson 2 года назад
Sounds fantastic! Makes me want to give TAL-J-8 a shot 👀
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 2 года назад
I've yet to try that one. Great idea!
@catmastertrash2447
@catmastertrash2447 2 года назад
Tal U No LX is great, I can't knock soft synths. They're a nice option
@nobel11
@nobel11 2 года назад
@@jovanka--------5098 How many oscillators do they have? Can they crossmod, or sync? Do their filters self oscillate in way that can be played along the keyboard?
@nitbot
@nitbot 2 года назад
It sounds pretty good, it's a joy to play around with
@chrisrobinson246
@chrisrobinson246 2 года назад
amazing final jam!!
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 2 года назад
Thank you!!!
@NoxiousButtSpray
@NoxiousButtSpray 2 года назад
love all the Nick clips
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 2 года назад
Nick=best!
@dictabeat
@dictabeat 2 года назад
Roland has managed to give the word boutique a low budget image.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 2 года назад
True that!
@lucag.lisickza425
@lucag.lisickza425 2 года назад
Definitely
@Space_pulse
@Space_pulse Год назад
Not only an assault on analogue synthesizers, but on language itself.
@thomasmatthews8873
@thomasmatthews8873 2 года назад
I appreciate this. 4 note polyphony is not a deal maker. I do 9,11 and 13th chords.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 2 года назад
As I can't properly play keyboards I don't care that much;)
@nexuzeb79
@nexuzeb79 2 года назад
(some of your vids are so funny I have to rewatch them) That Image of Nick Batt! Priceless!
@clickastlyindustries3033
@clickastlyindustries3033 2 года назад
Best editor on YT? He’s ticking all the boxes 📦
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 2 года назад
Thank you so much!
@Individual_two
@Individual_two 2 года назад
I see your MIDI controller's #2 fader had "don't remove under any circumstance" duct taping to keep it out of the fun. Cool! As for the JP-08, had one, tried to use it with my big fingers and realized my efforts were futile. The only thing I regret is selling it off so soon when they were cheap ($299US) and not just tossing it into a box so I could now sell it for double the money today. Missed opportunities... :(
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 2 года назад
That midi controller has seen things;)
@stevenbakos
@stevenbakos 2 года назад
Pluck your brows and play the JP at the same time? I’m in! Lol 😂
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 2 года назад
Challenge accepted;)
@citruesilver
@citruesilver 2 года назад
Another epic Episode and truly bad gear (I was already worrying 😉). Even if I am already diagnosed with a severe case of GAS by my wife I was never really tempted by Roland's Boutique series in general. Have a nice weekend and see you next time.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 2 года назад
Thanks, have a nice weekend!
@danhectic5629
@danhectic5629 2 года назад
great episode! i am particularly drawn to smaller, cheaper stuff like DS-10 & pocket ops- so some of these boutiques are really tempting...
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 2 года назад
Thank you!!!
@wilsonjaksetic6009
@wilsonjaksetic6009 2 года назад
It’s a great day for bad gear!
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 2 года назад
...and therefore for the world!!!
@jovanka--------5098
@jovanka--------5098 2 года назад
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@MayzMatthiasYzebaert
@MayzMatthiasYzebaert 2 года назад
Once I played on a original Jupiter 8 (and Juno 6) at a guy’s home studio in a rich area in Belgium. I had no idea what I was doing nor did I realise back then that the Jupiter 8 was such a big deal. I just learned a bit how to make music with Ableton, a Microkorg, and I was yet to become the synth nerd I am today. I do remember very much liking the sound. I would play a random chord on a pad patch and I was like “Weuuuuw cooool, this thing sounds so lively and rich”. So yeah, all those clichés I read about it afterwards were true. When I saw the ad for the JP-08 - which showed a real Jupter 8! - I asked the music store about it. But we both - the seller and I - realised it was a bit of a scam and were both disappointed. Would be nice if there was a new Roland Boutique version, but fully specked (or - dare I say - a Behringer Clone). Meanwhile there’s the Arturia VST version. And that’s fine.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 2 года назад
Didn't Uli already announce a full-fledged Jupiter?;)
@mattspazmatic
@mattspazmatic 2 года назад
This was one of the best intros to a Bad Gear, imo.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 2 года назад
Thanks! OG Roland sound ftw!!!
@driescapon1273
@driescapon1273 2 года назад
loving the finale songs these last few video's!
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 2 года назад
Thank you so much!!!
@janne-seta
@janne-seta 2 года назад
Looking forward to the Knifonium episode!
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 2 года назад
This. Thing. Is. Awesome.
@chriswareham
@chriswareham 2 года назад
I bought all three of the original boutiques the moment they were released, and was totally underwhelmed by the the JP-08. The lack of polyphony was an unpleasant surprise, as was the stiffness of those little sliders that made tweaking sounds a bloody nightmare. Surely Roland could have upped the price a little to at least increase the polyphony by using a more powerful DSP.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 2 года назад
I think the JP-08 is more like a marketing thingie for their cloud and Jupiter-X
@nyanpasu64
@nyanpasu64 2 года назад
Dear Roland, I will never pay for a subscription for a VST, sincerely, nyanpasu64
@raistaparta
@raistaparta 2 года назад
Or maybe they could’ve given it more polyphony anyway because you know that DSP can handle it and they’re overcharging anyway. Am I right?
@chriswareham
@chriswareham 2 года назад
@@raistaparta I read somewhere that the DSP they used was the same one they used on earlier machines. The modelling they used may have been closely tied to it, or they may have stuck with it simply due to familiarity. The result was something quite underpowered for the boutique emulations.
@TheToughBaby
@TheToughBaby 2 года назад
@@nyanpasu64 It's highly offensive!
@mattpierce1011
@mattpierce1011 2 года назад
The memes flick by so fast learning to pause them has actually improved my mute game!!
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 2 года назад
One's mute game is never perfect;)
@mikebush3834
@mikebush3834 2 года назад
I love these videos 💜🎶
@adynat0n
@adynat0n 2 года назад
The visuals of the song were amazing. As an anime fan, I loved it.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 2 года назад
Thank you!!!
@spencerlayne9399
@spencerlayne9399 Год назад
@@AudioPilz what are all those animations from?? they look stunning and I want to watch them!!
@LangleyNA
@LangleyNA 2 года назад
The vocoder shoutouts in this episode are great, I feel. 10:12
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 2 года назад
Thank you!!!
@raphaelfuchs8222
@raphaelfuchs8222 2 года назад
ah, the trusty uc33. bought mine in 2002, when i laid hands on a „second hand“ copy of reason 2. still in regular use to this day. prime example of good gear 🔥
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 2 года назад
I spent soooooooo much time with these!!!
@internalreality
@internalreality 2 года назад
i love this finale man
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 2 года назад
Thanks!
@lundsweden
@lundsweden 2 года назад
Wonderful sounding synth with teensy tiny little sliders and 4 note (!) polyphony!!!!
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 2 года назад
Yeah, it's a pity!
@klaassiersma4892
@klaassiersma4892 2 года назад
It;s the problem with a lot of this kind of gear, combining killer sound with maddening limitations.
@voltijuice8576
@voltijuice8576 2 года назад
Classic LOLand!
@nachom1971
@nachom1971 2 года назад
I was waiting for this episode! The Roland updates brought cc messages to use the sliders with a controller. I also read somewhere that someone open source hacked a midiface 4x4 to fix the note stealing issue.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 2 года назад
Thanks! Interesting, I have to do some research on that!
@tomskley8864
@tomskley8864 2 года назад
When I dream of the future, I see Roland launching mini Boutique versions of the Boutique versions. Anyone else with this dystopian vision? I can't sleep anymore...
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 2 года назад
...sold on a subscription basis;)
@birdie17uk
@birdie17uk 2 года назад
Imagine the meme potential if you crossed Nick Batt with a cat. Battcat (with PWM)!
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 2 года назад
A whole new universe of memery!!!
@nobel11
@nobel11 2 года назад
You'd modulate their DNA...
@DetroitMicroSound
@DetroitMicroSound 2 года назад
The sliders remind me of the tiny sliders that always came on various mini boomboxes. Super easy to go too far.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 2 года назад
I found it to be almost untweakable
@hillie47
@hillie47 2 года назад
I remember being 11 and having saved up enough from my little summer job to buy my own "boombox". Those minifaders really were only used as an on/off switch. :)
@DetroitMicroSound
@DetroitMicroSound 2 года назад
@@hillie47 Some were definitely almost like on-off. 😆
@DetroitMicroSound
@DetroitMicroSound 2 года назад
@@AudioPilz Erica Synths did it right, on my LXR-02!
@DetroitMicroSound
@DetroitMicroSound 2 года назад
@ghost mall the most useless, are actually the even tinier ones that some companies put on their Walkman style cassette players with headphones. 😆
@imnotfishing
@imnotfishing 2 года назад
Verdict : You are a brilliant artist. 🚀💥👏🏿
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 2 года назад
Thank you so much!!!
@AmeyahOfficialTV
@AmeyahOfficialTV 2 года назад
Came across some demos of the Korg 01R/W, maybe thats something for you to review? Not sure how expensive this one is. Another fantastic video! thank you! Its a tradition now for me to watch your Bad Gear review on friday!
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 2 года назад
Thanks! Great suggestion!
@patrikknoerr9777
@patrikknoerr9777 2 года назад
I'm too old for this newschoolish VST sounding stuff and wouldn't crap out the money... Instead of pondering why it isn't called JP-04 to honor its polyphony, I admire the finale which is very beautifully done. I hope you didn't lose a finger twiddling with that ridiculous keyboard.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 2 года назад
Thanks! I probably lost a few more hair trying to play it;)
@Jason75913
@Jason75913 2 года назад
@ghost mall and costs three times more and is very bulky as heck
@tedstahl3794
@tedstahl3794 2 года назад
I think most of the Roland Boutiques sound great. I'm actually quite impressed with the Analog Circuit Behavior technology. However, the 4-note polyphony and tiny controls were a real deal breaker for me. That is why waited and eventually got a System-8. 8-note polyphony and appropriately sized knobs and sliders. Another thing to keep in mind is that daisy-chaining multiple boutiques together doesn't give you the proper polyphonic experience you'd think. The big failure is that if you have patches with long release times, they will get cut off before they finish. The design of the Boutique range only uses the next poly-chained instrument if you're holding at least four keys down. If you play a four-note chord and lift your fingers to play another four-note chord, it will not look at the envelope to see if those voices are still being used. It will see that you lifted your fingers and it won't use the second instrument. It will use the original instrument and cut off the releasing notes. Fortunately, this is not a problem for the System-8.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 2 года назад
I've heard about the polychaining issues. Major PITA!
@Jason75913
@Jason75913 2 года назад
that blows hard
@ironinquisitor3656
@ironinquisitor3656 2 года назад
My question is, why wasn't Roland released an update that FIXES the polychaining issues for crying out loud?
@tedstahl3794
@tedstahl3794 2 года назад
Honestly, I have no idea what they were thinking with that poly chaining issue. However, the System-8 gives you 8 voices of all three of the original boutiques as well as the System-8's own excellent engine. That's my workaround.
@Jason75913
@Jason75913 2 года назад
@@ironinquisitor3656 Even cheap Behringer analogues handle polychaining better, if I recall correctly?
@ironinquisitor3656
@ironinquisitor3656 2 года назад
This is the review I've been waiting for! I love the JP-08 despite it's issues like only 4-voices of polyphony and the lack of the OG features but I can get some really great sounds out of it. I sounds VERY close in some ways to the original Jupiter 8 but listening to Sonicstate's review that compared it to the Jupiter you can hear just a bit more BOOM and THUD in the sounds coming out of the original. I'm hoping Roland will release a revised JP-08A that has all the original features, more polyphony, and maybe include a Jupiter 6 emulation in it too?
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 2 года назад
Thanks! I wholeheartedly agree!
@drindy5166
@drindy5166 Год назад
1:16 Or can we??? Dah dah daaaa!! Lol love it!
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz Год назад
Thanks!!!
@vietgrove
@vietgrove 2 года назад
I bought, a couple of years ago, a fancy eurorack dual analogue sequencer that used the same sized faders as on the boutique Jupiter to set the step pitches. As set up, the faders controlled a frequency range of 0-10v ie 10 octaves on a 10mm fader throw. It had to go, and I'd never buy any piece of kit that uses them.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 2 года назад
I admire people who can make controls like that work for them
@adamkrasneski3679
@adamkrasneski3679 2 года назад
the line 6 pod (og) is pretty hated by metal guitarists but is actually pretty sick on drum machines & synths. Have i already said this? If so my bad.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 2 года назад
Got one here, love it!!! Thanks for the suggestion!
@rcs2003
@rcs2003 2 года назад
The final Pokemon conclusion about the boutique series is awesome. Roland should pay a ton of money to you.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 2 года назад
I'm afraid they're contemplating giving money to hitmen;)
@bobz1736
@bobz1736 2 года назад
Love it all ! 🙏 11:40 - was that a clip from 'The Keep" ?
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 2 года назад
Dune FTW!!!
@EarmonkeyMusic
@EarmonkeyMusic 2 года назад
These things sound great. They have obvious drawbacks that people who don't use them love to point out because, well hating Roland is generally acceptable. The actual answer is System 8. Real keys, real knobs, 8 voices.... yummy
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 2 года назад
I've yet to try the system 8 - very interesting!
@glenesis
@glenesis 2 года назад
It's a cute little overpriced control-surface with a 4-voice Joop onboard. Totally overvalued VA. Nice review! The tweezer joke killed me, I'm dead 😂 Happy Bad Gear! Have a great weekend, Pilz!
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 2 года назад
Thanks! Have a nice one too!
@RobertDorschel
@RobertDorschel 2 года назад
You nailed it with "The Roland Boutique Line is line Pokemon... Gotcha Catch 'Em All!" And that's something I've managed to do so far. With any luck, they'll do a sampler next (S-10? S-50? in a Boutique), that would complete the line.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 2 года назад
Nice! Maybe an MC-303;)
@neilelkins2009
@neilelkins2009 2 года назад
Three Nicks in one show. You're spoiling us.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 2 года назад
The man. The legend.
@raylenin9322
@raylenin9322 2 года назад
Always felt weird attraction towards these rolands. Still going for Korg minilogue thou. Those teenyweeny tiny sliders is no go. Thanks for entertaining review once again!
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 2 года назад
Thanks for watching!
@jackispax1633
@jackispax1633 2 года назад
So I'm a lucky owner of the original, since the '90s. I love it but I'll point out it had no MIDI, no CV/Gate input for pitch, and some (like mine) don't even have Roland's DCB interface. So the boutique does have more to offer as far as connections go, as well as the built-in sequencer. It probably doesn't weigh a million pounds either. 😁
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 2 года назад
Have you thought about getting it midified?
@jackispax1633
@jackispax1633 2 года назад
@@AudioPilz yes, it is due for service soon and I'll have that conversation... On the plus side there's a perfect spot for jacks with no DCB in the way!
@fredscallietsoundman9701
@fredscallietsoundman9701 2 года назад
i've said it and i'll say it again: i love your jams
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 2 года назад
Thank you!!!
@adrianoconnor3020
@adrianoconnor3020 2 года назад
love the unreal tournament arcane reference ☺
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 2 года назад
Still my favorite FPS level!
@haze_productions9715
@haze_productions9715 2 года назад
I knew this one was a raw deal, but geez! Everything about this one rubs me the wrong way. If you snoop around and find one with new capacitors, you could use the kind of money the JP-08 goes for and get a JP-8000 instead. It's still not a Jupiter-8 but at least it's amazing in its own way.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 2 года назад
JP-8K is a classic in its own right
@haze_productions9715
@haze_productions9715 2 года назад
@ghost mall The System-8 looks super underrated.
@dnbsoldier7259
@dnbsoldier7259 2 года назад
JP8000 was my first synth. I still own it and I'm never selling it. Awesome synth. It's got way more character than a lot of current VAs.
@RegebroRepairs
@RegebroRepairs 2 года назад
I will never forgive them for only having 4 voices and no rainbow buttons. Also: That IS how you pronounce Ö. Source: Am Swëdish.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 2 года назад
Should be considered a crime. With ö.
@odiroot
@odiroot 2 года назад
Hi Lennart. I know you from Python fame, even attended a few of your talks. Funny to see you here :)
@pilleater
@pilleater 2 года назад
Hey! This is actually good! I just want Roland to actually reissue this with a Jupiter-like aesthetic and updated sound core.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 2 года назад
Yes, more Jupiter would have been appreciated;)
@pasikeranen
@pasikeranen 2 года назад
You hit the nail in the head with your final comments. I sold my JP-08 as I found myself using Jupiter-8 plugins 100% of the time instead of JP-08. The 4 voice polyphony, having to map MIDI controllers to bypass the tinytinytiny controls... not worth the hassle for me.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 2 года назад
I was longing for a plug too when I was working with the JP-08
@gasolineandwine
@gasolineandwine 2 года назад
Although it sounds quite nice, I can't help but compare it with plugins like TAL's J-8 which feature: individual voice parameters like oscillator/filter/envelope slop, triple the polyphony of this synth, individual outputs for upper/lower layers, expanded unison behaviour, expanded possibilities for modulation, etc. The only selling point of buying a Roland VST in a box is the box itself, and seeing how small it is and how much they had to compromise to get it all in it's physical form, it ceases to be appealing.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 2 года назад
I wholeheartedly agree!
@gasolineandwine
@gasolineandwine 2 года назад
@@CraigScottFrost I've seen some people using it and loving it, not because it's the true unabridged Jupiter 8 experience, but because it's a piece of hardware that serves them. More power to them. I'm too attached to the workflow and capabilities of the original to settle for anything less.
@TimWrightDJ
@TimWrightDJ 2 года назад
@@CraigScottFrost This! There's absolutely no advantage to buying a hardware digital recreation of an analogue synth. It literally won't be any better than a well made VST.
@mrz80
@mrz80 2 года назад
@@CraigScottFrost I picked up a used Keylab pretty much just so's I could get a cheap crack at Analog Lab . There are some real doozies in there! :D
@gasolineandwine
@gasolineandwine 2 года назад
@@CraigScottFrost Absolutely agreed! I don't really have access to a whole lot of hardware of any kind, my main keyboard is a Kurzweil digisynth that doubles as midi controller. Love it, don't know what I'd do without it, but even if I did own a lot of hardware, I'd find it easier and less troublesome to record using plugins. I feel like physical synths are far better for hands on sound design and jamming, maybe working out ideas, than actually using them for recording. But that's just me.
@ata000001
@ata000001 2 года назад
I have 2 of these, bought new when these were available. Extra polyphony is useful especially with the dual layer sounds.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 2 года назад
Nice, did polychaining work well for you?
@ata000001
@ata000001 2 года назад
@@AudioPilz It has it's problem, as the voice allocation goes 1-4 from unit1 and voices 5-8 from the 2nd unit. Which means you have to keep at least 4 notes pressed to "wake up" the 2nd unit and get longer releases for the notes. If you only play 4 or less notes and release the notes and play new notes, you'll lose the end tail of the release for those notes. They should have allocated the voices better, for example like a-b-a-b-a-b-a-b instead of a-a-a-a-b-b-b-b (where a is the master JP-08 and b is the slave JP-08). Otherwise the polychaining works fine, you only use the controls of the master unit and the slave unit just have to be there, connected via midi and audio (I use the audio passthru for the audio on one of the units).
@danabil001
@danabil001 2 года назад
@@ata000001 For what it's worth, the Retrokits RK-002 cable's polymux function fixes this problem by alternating notes between the two (or more) units and it works perfectly. It's worth the $70 (they have many other midi utility functions as well) and it's what made me hold onto the JP-08s
@lookapi
@lookapi 2 года назад
Great jams!😊👋👋✌
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 2 года назад
Thank you!!!
@MusicOfDreamweaver
@MusicOfDreamweaver 2 года назад
I bought the three first boutiques: The JP, JX and JU. Ended up selling them to get the System 8. Same engine, same sounds, better tweakability, 49 full size keys. I never looked back.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 2 года назад
The System 8 gets mentioned a lot - very interesting!
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