Bad in Isolation, Worse in Context. 

That's exactly what I said, maximus toggled wild wasteland on at character creation. Lucy must have idiot savant as a perk too.

I mean, you could say the same for the game characters. How do you expect there to be a show if things don’t happen? You all are making no sense. “This show gave us a way to move the plot forward! Like every other show ever!!” Oh how terrible. 🤦🏻 Their execution isn’t even bad, so being upset 😭 r disliking it is still just to be cool. To be different. Retcons happen. MCs ALWAYS have the plot revolve around them. But NOW it’s an issue. 😂🤣😂

@@uuddlrlrbas9904 i didn't realize idiot savants have explained reasons as to how they are capable of doing what the do. 🤣 Y'all jus using words.

@@4Star18 listen, feel free to like bad writing and bad storytelling. Feel free to enjoy illogical and idiotic characters, you can even come into this chain and try to make fun of the people laughing at a garbage show. Because right now I'm laughing at you

@@4Star18 We don't have enough crayons to explain nuance and plot convenience to you. Enjoy the show while you scroll your phone and eat junk food. No one cares YOU are the weird one coming to a video that EXPLICITLY says they do not like the show JUST to be a shilling contrarian. Why are you not watching the show again instead?

No, we called that out and shamed them. You had to go into the stall or port a john and not make a mess OR it is your soap and your dick and you can wash it as fast as you want in the shower

Honestly yeah, never open a mans rack curtain without announcing yourself first. But that's also a reason Maxs understanding of sex bothers me so much, I've had more in depth conversations and debates about buttholes while enlisted than any other topic

@@masterficus I feel that, brother. You’re spot on about him being the most self incriminating mfer ever

You know what. That is a very well said statement. It really is.

The "humor" in this show seems like its written for 10 year olds.

@@Lizards_Lounge exactly

Thank all gods there's people like you, I was getting fed up watching all these shills and zombies praising it. Show's so bad it's fkin appalling.

@@Lazarus_ReSpawn that's my way of thinking. respect.

They decided it was cold fusion in Fo3 as far as I can tell (Vault 94 terminal entry). Before that there was microfusion. Maybe I'm missing a reference.

@@nathanlevesque7812 It's mentioned in the manual in Fallout 1.

@@nathanlevesque7812 static.wikia.nocookie.net/fallout/images/1/18/VDSG_GECK_page_34.png/revision/latest?cb=20201213070837 < from fo1 manual

@@Plutonia001 Huh, weird that no one added that citation to the wikis.

No, most vaults did not have a geck. Play the main story of fallout 3 to learn why and pay attention to the terminal you access at the citadel. Most vaults do not have a geck, and vault tech would not want their enemies having cold fusion, so it would still be prudent for them to prevent it from falling into enemy hands or prying it out of enemy hands.

Except it wasn't

​@@SuperCasperman who cares. The show is bad.

Haven't you heard? Only salty New Vegas fans ask that kind of questions. Real fans don't ask questions and unconditionally consume anything their favourite corрoration tells them to.

by that logic how are stimpaks, radways and other chems still being created in the games. its been shown multiple times across all games that several groups of people were able to start manufacturing things such as power armor, weapons and medicine. So I dont get why a serum for ghouls is that crazy

@@notabot485 the ghouls were appearing waaaay before a functional civilization, that could manufacture something like this, was created. All ghouls would have turned feral by the time someone would have come up with this serum and started mass manufacturing.

@notabot485 @notabot485 ghouls are a very small minority though. There wouldn't be such a dire need to allocate limited resources to create such a serum specifically for them. Unless maybe it was a serum intended for other purposes for everyone in the wasteland? It would've been simpler and easier for the show to just use the same logic as in the game, where the rot and radiation finally ate away at their brain and sanity and they went feral. You don't fix what isn't broken. Also stimpacks are basically health packs in every video game. Putting them in the show or a movie and having them work the same way as in a videogame would look silly as well.

@@mr.nesbitt8967 We're also shown in some quests that the medication doesn't work on NPCs the way it does on the player characters (which just proves those are simply game mechanics and not an actual in-game lore). You can't fix their limbs or stop the blood by using stimpaks. People might overdose on drugs. And some may need way more fixers to cure their addictions. Making all Fallout meds literal magic would simply destroy all stakes and grand every main character an insane plot armor.

I see what you did there 😏

Thank you for your service trooper

@@danamania150 o7

Except the narrative was co-opted right out the gate and somehow convinced most critics and reviewers that it was good. Which didn't happen with Fallout 4. The best explanation I've heard is that most reviewers just turned off their brains and said it was good because it met a "fanservice" quota. So most either weren't paying attention enough to consider their reviews legitimate, shilled out for Bethesda or were fanboys themselves and are lying about it.

@@65firered ..or are just dumb as a thousand fucks, while we're at it 🤣

If you wanted to prove that you are a simpleton, then well done. "Vault dweller main protag character." That is literally every fallout game, which is what the show is about, so of course things would not make sense to you, as you have none

And no you did not digress, stop using words you do not understand.

@@TheRenekruse gtfo, imbecile. There IS NO INTELLIGENCE IN THIS SHOW. NONE. Just Fallout visuals. A child could write a better plot, it's an insulting garbage.

That is true, but we've had some good stuff too and the there was a lot of trash made in the past, I'm confident Hollywood has some good movies left in her

More like a lack of writing. People aren't getting paid for their work.

pretty much

Exactly,, after watching it went online.. watched how its being recieved, and how people even thought would see what I did even sold out... I literally said to my flatmate "The dumbing down agenda has suceeded"

​@@Lizards_LoungeA lot of them are probably bots and or shills. Remember starfield and how "it is the best game ever!?!?!?!!!!" appeared out of nowhere and was said when the game wasn't even out? If you really want to know how well the show was received you have to talk 6months after about it.

@@irgendeineperson5350Somewhat. But I mostly think it's mostly casual fans who ignore the story and treat it like every other mindless sandbox Bethesda puts out.

​@@irgendeineperson5350 Omg people like you aren't very smart. There are no shills and bots. People genuinely enjoy this show. Get a life

Bro just go to the fallout subreddit. The enlightened redditors there came to the conclusion that if you don't like or even just criticize the show you must be an insane NV fan who hates Bethesda. And the amount of cope with the blackboard scene and the NCR is insane.

Or people like you who thinks evwry pne who doesn't agree with you are dumb @$$es who can't enjoy change

@@dainfant5101 Hahahaha, that's exactly what I thought - NV lives rent-free in the head of every Bethedrone

That is what Corperate Exploitation of Customer Sentimentality gets us, man.

I mean. You can actually find high schoolers that are very competent. I think they may have done a better job ngl.

Give high schoolers a little more credit. Some of them can make something that at least has consistency.

You assume that they were looking to fix mistakes. Look at Rings of Power and tell me they care.

@@65firered they probably care but they're incredibly stupid. the writers. producers. everyone involved. echo chamber of stupidity

@@cozminr You know what, that's fair. Velma is a passion project and is an abomination upon humanity and got a second season.

There's also Creetosis

@@regiman222 I've found a few. And a million casuals shilling it fanatically. All looking like soyfed nerds on average. Why are all of them looking perpetually happy all the time? 🤔

Anytime you present an argument about a scathing plot problem, they actively make up reasons why it is there.

It's like they looked at everything in the southwest that had potential and decided that all had to go. They're just throwing away quality lore, factions, and plotlines, like anything that isn't Bethesda has to burn.

​@@nathanlevesque7812 you mean like Bottle caps, Stimpaks and so on? . They did not throw away any lore as far as I know, what lore is it you imagine they threw away?. As for them throwing away plotlines, that is a level of folly that is rare to see, do you even know what plotlines mean?

@@TheRenekruse A small itemized list, - NCR currency, Shady Sands being in... Shady, not the Boneyards. A nation of 700000 people being reduced to scattered groups of raiders in less than decade. Power armor can fly now and requires no training whatsoever to excert enough force to rip your body in half if you're careless with it. Cold fusion is now both the McGuffin and the thing that powers power-armor, vehicles are completely gone. Ghouls now require a magical drug to not go feral. (Rather than it being left intentionally vague), and are impervious to non-headshot trauma. (Which would make them invaluable as shock-troopers), and plotlines are indeed just dropped and never brought up again (like the kinda sort of super-important water chip), you are a simpleton.

​@@kyosokutai I am very far from a simpleton, in fact as far from it as it gets, which is why I know that everything you said is sprung from your own very limited ability to think, in fact your ability to think is so limited that you are less useful in an intelligent conversation, than a two legged ant with brain damage and paralysis is of use to the anthill. The layers of stupid in your comment are to thick for me to want to deal with them all, so I will limit my charity work to just a bit of it. You are so simple minded that you seem to think that because something was the case in the past, it must remain the same in the present otherwise lore has been changed, which is not the case. Tec advances for the brotherhood does not equal a break away from lore, it simply equals development. You claim "vehicles are completely gone" Proving you did not watch the show, or you not knowing the meaning of vehicle, unlike what you may think it is not limited to things that drive on wheeles and either way you do not know that there are no cars, simply because you have not seen any, it is not like you have seen everything that exists in the world. The only real argument you had was for Shady Sands but even that fails as you do not know what happned, if the people moved and named their new location by the same name, much like the Dutch originally calling what is now New York, New Amstadam. There are more than 10 locations in USA called Denmark. You do not know that the very thing that they made to keep ghouls from going feral does not give them regenerative properties, nor do you know if or when they found out what made them feral, finding out something that you did not know in the past is not breaking lore, it is simply new information, new tec, is not breaking lore, it is simply new tec. For something to be lore breaking, it would have to be a change to past events, to which you in fact have seen none.

Seeing as the Brotherhood has now become the dominant faction in fallout, I’m not surprised by this

And that the Brotherhood now control most of the former US on both coasts.

Yeah you're right I totally missed that

​@@masterficusof course you did ...that's what we call blind hating

@@SuperCasperman just shut up

I know Mauler is working on something, a video, a dedicated EFAP, something. The only thing that can stop Creetosis at this point is God

I appreciate that Mauler was chatting with two friends, live, who praised the show, and his response was a polite but firm backhand of facts and logic that neither friend could really dispute and mostly just stammered, flustered at the experience of being in the longman's crosshairs.

I can't stop thinking about that poor kid in a fridge in Fallout 4 sharing his cramped fridge with 76,000 zombrex vials

Yes, it's invented for the show. Feralisation was never a disease.

True Fallout fans never heard of ultrajet, lmao.

Basically matches up with Bethesda plot quality. Perfect adaptation!

And yet the man who created Fallout has praised it for accurately capturing the essence of Fallout. Seems you don't understand the franchise.

@@jres1995 And Sapkowski praised the Netflix Witcher series which was (somehow) much worse than the old Polish adaptation, which he hated with a passion. That doesn't mean anything. Besides, Tim Cain has always been overly polite.

@@jres1995your a tic-tac iq’d peon whose never played a fallout game, our community does not want your soft hands little kid

@@jres1995 He also said he entirely separates the games from the show, comparing it to the gap between book and movie Conan, Strek iterations, etc.

HA! That is a good one

Makes about as much sense as randomly having robotics knowledge like it's just the science skill on their character sheet

and everyone has 1 inteligence

True, I was trying to classify her build based off the skills she has in her introduction interview

She has the 'strong independent women' build, all her stats are a 10.

10 LUK is genuinely the optimal build in every game -:3

Lucy has a 10 in Mary Sue just like every other female character written by woke antifans.

Very emotionally mature, unlike the people saying "You don't like my THING, you must be erased from existence! AHHHHHH" . I think Master Ficus will get pretty popular by dissecting shows. He did a helluva of a job...think he needs to throw in some clips and memes to get a wider audience though

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Finally someone gets it. I still don't see the appeal though, but that's just me.

You know the "Quit Having Fun" stick figure comic meme? That's this video. It wouldn't be so bad, if not for the text in the thumb.

@@CognizantCheddar people like you are the reason gatekeeping meme exists

They'll still fail in the end.

Vegas fans still making up headcanon years later is wild when he didn't have to include Mr house/Vegas AT ALL

​@@SuperCasperman cope and seethe because your favorite corporation is facing criticism

Like all media

It’s all low iq writing

​@@4Star18, maybe, but may be it would be better to say convenient coincidences.

Plothole: The Show

I thought they would have given us that. Give us an intro story with a protagonist. Then kill them off. And move on to a different character. And so on. Each exploring different player experiences as stories. Some funny, some sad, some action heavy, some detective style.

A Fallout anthology would have been the perfect way to do it. They put so much credence into the established games that it's breaking under it's own weight.

Or like a "Black mirror" tv show with each single episode dealing with a new vault and its experimental horrors

@@arturovandeley Great Concept

@@arturovandeley I thought in it as being a bunch of episodes showing different kinds of wastelanders, but also including vault dwellers, which stories would tie up in the end directly and indirectly, turning into a hook for a second season or something

They are mocking Evangelical Christians so logic is out the window. They praise Communism, do not under Capitalism, have a refugee filler episode in a 8 episode season and made a spoof of Trump as a buffoon one eyed Overseer. It is dogshit all around because 'Messaging' took priority

Different Chapters have different upbringings. Maybe Squires aren't allowed to procreate while Knights and Paladins are.

@@MrBoxen I suppose that wouldn't be a bad way to patch the hole, but I don't think the audience should require fanon to fix logical errors within the script.

@@demondeity9816 I mean, it makes sense. Thought I rather not have the show exposition dump us with stuff. It’s too handholdy and modern media especially games constantly do that now. But it’s hard for a show not to do it because we can’t just open up a terminal or holotape and read why it’s that way from another point of view.

Absolutely, and how did he get in contact with Moldevar in the first place, was it when he was in the enclave or when he was on the run and just got extremely lucky? Why didn't we see any enclave kill teams trying to plug their leak? Why didn't the person that first saw him and post the bounty just catch him first? There's so much in this show that I didn't even notice, decided against including, or cut from the script that people will be posting new videos about these mistakes for months.

Why don't you wait till season 2, before jumping to conclusions. Because if you are wrong, you are sending the wrong message to people who love the show. The show creators went over every detail and I doubt they messed up. Todd Howard has all the experts on it.

@@Robert-yt9pq There is so much wrong with your last two sentences. First of, show runners often fail and serve quickly put together stuff. Sometimes it seems if one dumb person in the room shouts first that this would be a nice idea and that it makes sense for them, they go with it. Secondly, Todd Howard is not a source for experts at all.

@@Robert-yt9pq what expert ?

​@@Robert-yt9pqboy are you wrong. This show has problems once you pay atention to how the story is written.

That's my issue. Society wants everything destroyed, lol. We wouldn't have anything at all if critics were in charge. People are spoonfed all these special effects and whatnot. Imagination is gone, why we can't just enjoy a show and go on about our business.

@@dgdailey7572 you certainly can, you choose to come to a video with less than 10k views to hear about it

No...people understand that. Seems the people who like something that is shit cannot stand objective criticism of their obsession. I think the show is mediocre and that is because of what you said. I think Ella Purnell & Walter Groggins are such great actors that they blinded some people noticing bad writing. The set designers, prop masters and other crew were fantastic, plus the cinematography and directing was high level. Notice how scenes are setup, Claire Kilner & Fred Toye did just as great as Jonathan Nolan if not better

​@@TheImapotatoyep, even if the show wasn't canon it would be mid...

The music in the show is terrible. Not a single stand out or likeable ost that wasn’t just a song pulled from one of the game radio stations.

Because they were just like the games and not a cash grab using a popular ip to make money . Also shut the fuck up

​@@Mr.Dew0527hahaha

@@milosstojicic2119 great response I’m taking notes

produced by the same corporation that birthed Rings of Power too. Consoomer never changes

@@commanderknee3821 same corporation that made the boys , invincible and reacher (it’s spelled consumer btw)

What Ficus didn't touch on but what bothered me is how is there enough serum left after 200 yrs? Thousands of ghouls just in this area would have used it up in a year or two

There's nothing genuine to refute. RU-vid-addled "Plothole" shrieking obsessives who care more about their personal gotcha moment than the experience of a piece of art should be quarantined from the rest of the internet, it's pure cringe.

@@dystopiabeach It's a great show if you have no understanding of the IP. * In Fallout 4, the Chinese are confirmed as launching before any nukes detonate. * In New Vegas, the NCR is still being supplied from Shady Sands in 2281. * The Brotherhood isn't patriotic, and never cared about "order" in the wastes. * Ghouls don't auto-regenerate: they need a strong radiation source for that. I could do a Top 20 list, but what seems to be going on here is Bethesda wants to wipe out all parts of the IP they didn't create - that being the NCR and various New Vegas factions. This is a matter of reorienting the tone and content so that they're not "beholden to things written 20 years ago" (as once asserted by Bethesda's community outreach manager).

Bruh! I'm 20min in and I want to make strong arguements against every point he is nitpicking so far, but it's an hour fucking long. I'm going to need to write a book just for the 20min I have watched so far!

@@Calbeck You mean the same people who literally said that new vegas is canon. And this show is canon. And nothing was retconned. And while cutting it close. The timeline is correct. You really think bethesda wants to wipe new vegas? If people are actively buying new vegas its good for them.

@@Calbeck damn that's crazy. If it's more important than an enjoyable viewing experience then you'd happily sit through an 8 hour season of TV with the Geiger counter constantly ticking in the background of every scene right? If it's in the name of accuracy making an objectively worse show is a net positive? Nothing about this series negates the Chinese launching in the first place. That braindead argument was already pushed back on by Tim Cain himself (and anyone capable of critical thought while we're at it). Nearly every bit of discourse around this show has come from a subset of gamers who are simply too mad to be capable of reading. It's completely unserious I personally would've liked to see less brotherhood presence on the west Coast in general and am not a fan of bethesda fallout's heavy focus on them, you know why it's the case in this story? Because it's a fucking TV show, things have to happen on screen, an audience has to be captured. All of these pathetic cinemasins tier complaints can be traced back to simply not understanding the medium in the first place. Career showrunners, directors, and writers with credits the likes of Interstellar under their belt (let alone ones who have proven to be fans of the games) know what they're doing over a bunch of sweaty redditors im sorry to say

Exactly, let the hype vent off a bit and everyone will open their eyes

This is such a retarded ass point dude if that were the case everyone would've liked the halo show since it's way more beloved then fallout, just because you're a cynical bitch doesn't mean everyone else is

Extremely well put. I was already making connections with Maximus flashback as well being saved by the BoS similar to how Djin was found in Mando

the first 3 episode is mid i'll give it 7/10, the last 3 episode is suprisingly good lore, it explain vault 76 dweller securing the silo for the fate of cshadysands and vault city , the only thing about it is where the Fvck is 700k NCR are

The FNV fans are going to EXPLODE next season and turn on the Bethesda shills like Matty Juiceguy & Oxhorn when the showrunners retcon their favorite game. Those fans are pretty zealous

Thanks, I knew what I was going to get when I chose the title and thumbnail, I'm actually kinda blown away at how many positive responses I got

Would have been easier on them if they just had the show take place somewhere in the East Coast. The West Coast was well on its way to, albeit problematic, to rebuilding.

That’s one hell of a sentence brother

@@gentlemanbronco3246 Yeah, the show would've done fine and people would not have hated it that much. Just stick it in the Toddout lore, but noOooOooOoOoOOOOOOOOOOooo, if you don't like slop, we will force it down your throat

Have a feeling they will do House dirty because he is a white man. He was on the sidelines in his cameo

@@gentlemanbronco3246 It was done on purpose. Bethesda and Microsoft want Bethesda lore only, forget the past, kill it if you have to is the mantra

It's either bots or people that hate click, dislike, comment, and leave, which I knew would happen when I made the thumbnail, but I'm pleasantly surprised at the amount of support and even the people that dislike my video but stick around long enough to comment on something I actually said.

Everyone dont like or agree with is a bot. God your people are so fucking pathetic.

The targeted bot campaigns, especially for such a small tuber, always seemed like a stretch. More likely it's that most people would rather watch shorter lore videos or firearm experts reacting to the show's guns than a 1 hour video of nitpicking. People stopped liking CinemaSins for a reason. The algorithm is still likely recommending this to people because, well, the Fallout show is a hot topic right now. That's probably where these comments are coming from. I know I got this recommended, watched 5 minutes (which I don't think YT counts as a view), was like "oh okay", read and left a few replies and now I'm going to leave. Maybe I'll come back to the video later when I'm more willing to spend some time.

It's almost like you get an influx of eyes on your content when you feed the algorithm and release something on a popular topic, surely there's an intricate conspiracy behind it all. This thing was sub-1K when it crept into my feed and wouldn't have done so at all without being fallout related

It's obvious that a channel with just a few hundred subs could only attract over 11K views as of now, via intentional hate baiting, thus drawing in thousands of hate-drones.

NCR have smol pp

@@steezydan8543 Bethesda writer detected

@@FerunaLutelou Caesar's legion MVP, NCR smol pp

The BOS is awesome

@@RexJacobus-bb1vwoh no doubt it is. For all its flaws, it is a cool faction.

But I get it...Bethesda & Microsoft know FO1 & FO2 fans do not buy their games and that their biggest critics are FNV fans. They are catering to the run and gun FO4 and settlement building FO76 fans

​@@TheImapotato They also screwed it by having RobCo and RepCONN at the meeting. RepCONN GOT BOUGHT OUT by RobCO. You find various entries at RepCONN HQ in New Vegas.

@@MLPDethDealr32 Yes! True! Didn't notice that, great catch

@@MLPDethDealr32 We don't know when the meeting is, and REPCONN was only bought out by RobCo in 2075-2076. The meeting could easily take place before this.

This is New Vegas fanboyism at it's peak, is angry about the date on the sign regarding Shady Sands decline which is hinted at in New Vegas do the NCR citizen test and claims it's Todd's hatred for New Vegas when Shady Sands literally is from Fallout 1 & 2 and doesn't get seen in New Vegas but cause it's mentioned NV fans feel the need to think it somehow attacks THEIR game and must be targeted New Vegas hatred as opposed to a dislike for the originals which it isn't btw. It's just fun seeing NV fans act like OG fans despite the show barely affecting NV and even hinting at it playing a major part in the second season.

Happy to help

The man who created Fallout praised it for being faithful to the source material. His opinion means far more than any of you whiners. Y'all make a hobby out of hating on anything popular because you think it makes you look like you have refined tastes but really it just makes y'all look like clowns.

💯💯

@@jres1995anybody who doesn’t like this show because it’s “inaccurate” or “goofy” hasn’t played fallout in their life

​@@jres1995ah yes, the show being liked by everyone and the creator magically erases all the inconsistent writing and plot holes. thank you.

@@SwanCollins Sure bud keep telling yourself that, hypercritical nobodies lmao 🤣

A dead finger no matter what the technology should be able to merge unto living cells. AND there is a reason we cut off limbs to this day as gangrene enters the blood stream and kills you. No way she should be alive. I don't know why they didn't give her a robot finger, it would have worked much better

The ubernut comment made me giggle. But yes, Todd seems to have a hard on in keeping the wasteland bleak. I know there was an attempt in FO4, but we're talking about the show, where Bethesda once again has a hard on for Vault Dweller who act like morons instead of people aching to reclaim America.

Yep. Humans don't want to rebuild in Todd's Fallout. The NCR is slowly being impeded so that we don't see any of that

The showrunner openly stated that that is why they nuked Shady Sands; they wanted to return the wasteland to Mad Max mode for the show. Why the show had to be on this date, in this location, when it could have been in a wide variety of other locations or dates and had that exact aesthetic, I don't know, but by god, that's how it HAD to be apparently, so the only solution is to nuke the surface AGAIN so they could reset things.

@@billjacobs521 Borderlands if it took itself serious lmao

A lot of those "people" are bots or paid shills. I noticed the comment sections of several popular RU-vidrs that talked about this show being flooded by bots. Amazon is spending millions to try and prevent another rings of power fiasco

Often within the same damn game. This is what not having a game design document does.

Exactly this. They were labeled communists so they could be "othered" and made to be villans in the eyes of the public. They were more anti-corpo, and anti corruption.

Possible, I did say the dialogue murkies the water, I'm undecided if they're actually communists or not, that's why I put some of the dialogue on screen. I'm sure some of them are communists judging by the "fascist" line when the ghoul makes a breadline joke, but it's hard to say if that's the ideology of the whole group.

@@masterficus Yeah, that makes sense.

They are communists trough and trough just like the writers of this show that changed the entire storyline of Mr house to be about "evil" capitalism destroying the world because evil capitalists are greedy....

No, they were. Their mindset was exactly like modern American Marxists/Communists. They even threw in the line that "Communists are what people call the ones who are not crazy" Major copium by Hollywood writers there. Most enlightened people KNEW they could not say anything bad about China or Communism, but those Ivory tower champagne Socialists cannot help but to throw digs at people who have a different world view than them

Maybe they were aware that these were vapid, sloganeering, junior managers? I'm joking, naturally, but also reminded of the issue of the Vault's "experiment". Supposedly, the idea was to raise a perfect managerial class, but how would that arise by just having the already-trained managers go one or two at a time into a control population? What stops them from being bred out or falling victim to bad ideas with only two unmonitored test vaults? Oh, well, excellent lore catch. I forgot about the prime humans bit.

Shhh. The shills in the comments section are gonna sniff you out for caring too much about established lore and implore you to shut up since all Bethesda wants to do is attract people who never cared about Fallout even the ones that LARP around pretending they do care.

Honestly the only way it could be explained (for at least the master’s side) is that the master is just outright stupid. He doesn’t realize that his mutants are sterile and canonically never finds out about vault 13 despite it being closer Although for the enclave I honestly have no clue. Maybe they didn’t find it similar to how the master couldn’t or they just didn’t bother to.

@@PeppinSpaghett. The Master is a schizophrenic hive-consciousness that is insane. He/She/It doesn't have to be stupid, since they are completely self-absorbed in the literal sense. None of the Super-Mutants ever bothered questioning the Master before, since it appears extremely intelligent, and appears to have a knowledge of FEV they do not. As far as they're concerned, it is their creator, hence the whole temple thing, which is a jab at religion.

@@PeppinSpaghett.but that’s the thing. Master isn’t stupid, he’s just obsessed with his cause. He’s blinded by his own righteousness. And from L.A. to Vault 13 there is a one month walk. While his supermutants and followers could get to Vault 33 and Vault 4 entrances in 5 hours.

Thanks man, the vultures like to hang out in the mornings, really cool looking birds that don't bother anyone, great neighbors

lol did you just trick me into watching the final episode again? If yes good troll, if no can you give me the timestamp? I didn't hear any dates in commie leaders monologue outside of referring to the war 200 years ago, if they really said she died 20 years ago then FNV was absolutely retconned

​@@masterficus yeah, it looks like i was wrong. I rewatched the ep couldn't find the 20 year thing. When i first watched the show I was watching with some people and I had to go do some at the time and when i got back one of of them said they confirmed when when they nuked shady sands. Unfortunately i took their word for it. Sorry about that.

No worries man, it's a new show, things are still getting found out, we're all prone to mistakes like this.

@@masterficus yeah, I've been talking with the people I've watched with, and we've been skimming through the show of places where the characters might have said how long ago Lucy's mom passed away. Like Lucy herself or her dad or brother (before the reveal that Lucy's mom is the ghoul). Even seeing if Max might have said how long ago Shady Sands was nuked. It feels like the show was vague on when Lucy's mom's death and how long ago Shady Sands was nuked. The chalkboard was consistent on its dating until the end when it says the fall of Shady Sands and has a date and then has an arrow pointing at a nuke. We have the date for when the city fell but don't have the date when it was nuked. If the city fell from population decline or crop failure or something else, the city might have been able to climb out of it, and it would be another footnote in its cities history. But they don't have a date for something that pales in comparison to the fall of the city. It's like having a date of something bad happening in Pompeii and next to that date with an arrow pointing to it, there's an image of a volcano exploding. I think who ever drawn the chalkboard messed up and "the fall of Shady Sands" was supposed to sound more dramatic than the nuking of Shady Sands. Or they had the foresight in drawing it like the way they did to make it vague as possible (seeing how the show goes I think it's unlikely). I just grasping at straws and rambling on about stuff the writers or anyone would think of. God this show is a mess when you look more into it.

I think they had experts, people that know more about fallout, than Todd Howard. Sitting going over everything.This has to be true. No detail was overlooked. This whole video sounds like nit-picking to me.

Real

@@turtleboi1547 thank you for your kind comment, i really appreaciateasate it

Bethesda Bros are already hyping themselves up for a Fallout 5. These people are as dense as granite.

Can't fault you for that, that's a guilty pleasure of mine too lol

But, if we want to get into the weeds, it was established in New Vegas, specifically the Honest Hearts DLC, that the cars of the day WERE affected by EMP. Keep in mind that all of their cars were nuclear fusion powered by this point, as petroleum was exceedingly rare, so who knows what the internal wiring was like?

@billjacobs521 Fair enough. I had forgotten that detail and if they established that as canon within the lore of the games then cool. Ill resend that. I just remember around that time is when that stuff kept being stated and not too long after, a few years or so, more research became popularized debunking it. Used to theyd say modern cars would go dead at an emp but cars made in the 90s and back would be fine. That study wound up theorizing even modern cars would be fine

They mention "independent but connected", if disease or famine or whatever hits one vault then the connected vault will be kept safe, they can help how they can without dooming themselves in the process. BUT they didn't communicate for at least two years, a morning email update is the most sensible communication standard. TLDR: it's a decent concept but the way they did it was real bad

To be fair a bunch of vaults being nonsense is pretty much on brand for the game​@@masterficus

We don't know what there communication standard is. Do you have their user manual? Do you work for them. Where you involved in making this show?

Vault 32 last life signs were two years before the events of the show, which means there's no communication for two years. Do you have an explanation?

@@Robert-yt9pq yes we do lol. We know the overseers can easily communicate on terminals and they have a tri-annual trade meeting.

I didn't catch that in editing and still have no idea what happened lol

@@masterficus clearly it was a frog 🐸

I could've been more clear, I meant the dog looks 2-3 years old during the main plot as a way to estimate when it was born and the scientist took it, telling us how long he kept it hidden behind a wall.

I agree on Norm. He really grew on me. Cause I really like Rico from Hannah Montana, so I'm glad to see him succeed.

Neckbeard trash you are

Yeah, you whiners would have complained about it no matter what.

@@jres1995 mad?

@@diegeticfridge9167 Why would I be mad? Just got a damn near perfect adaptation of one of the best RPG series out there. One that was praised by the creator of the franchise for its accuracy. It's your crowd who's mad, lmao.

@@jres1995 lil bro typing a paragraph to tell me he’s not mad 😭 “Damn near perfect” bro the rewrote how the bombs fell

Also ultrajet was developed for ghouls because they have a higher resistance to Jet. I think they are setting up ferals to be ultrajet junkies that have literally melted their brains to mush.

The Ghoul he pout out of his misery asked if had any of the stuff. So no it does do what they intend it to do

My working assumption that Shady Sands was nuked after the events of FNV was my way of being charitable, if it was nuked before FNV that would be a major lore break no one could defend. This way I could show that the nuke is still bad even if it doesn't decanonize FNV. 1. Since a public library would be funded by the state it would be one of the first things to shut down in an economic depression, I don't know the exact date the NCR started having problems but that's my assumption. 2. Which sign? I can only remember the billboard that says when it was established, if there was another sign you're referencing give me a timestamp and I can check it out. 3. I think I agree, it's hard to tell. The territory only has tiny settlements like filly and vault 4, organ dealers protected by a gang, and cannibalism, it all points towards the NCR being completely gone from the region as things would be more stable if the surrounding cities were still active. But at the end of the final fight there were explosions in the dead city, implying a bigger fight was happening, maybe with the rest of the NCR. Inconsistencies and contradictions, but more points towards the NCR being gone so that's what I'm settling on.

@@masterficusyeah my bad, the billboard rather in 34:42 saying “Welcome to Shady Sands, First Capital of the New California Republic.” If that billboard merely wanted to introduce Shady Sands as the capital of the NCR, then they could have just said “Capital of the…” so them saying First, implies that there’s a second when this billboard was made. If there is none, then this is another problem in the show. Edit: Yeah. Personally even though the NCR is my favorite faction, I would have no qualms if it met its demise in a sensible way. It seemed plausible that it would collapse due to its own government biting off more than it could chew and getting overconfident with power. Having said that, I refuse to believe that it would die in such a swift manner. I don’t think losing a single city would be enough to bring the NCR down but this is under the assumption that it still has the same size and power it did by the time of FNV and that the show didn’t retcon its territories too. I also don’t think that the NCR, despite how corrupt its government became, would be retarded enough to not consolidate all their power to make themselves stable especially with what happened to their mother city and to use it as an even bigger excuse as to why they need to grow bigger.

I totally missed out the point he brung up about Lucy's age during the flashback to shady sands. Its a total fuck up. In one instance as you said they have basically definitely put it down as 2277 as being when shady was nuked and then we are supposed to believe that lucy is atleast 28 to have been 6 in 2277. This show is written like how dads that don't really know how to cook just get random spices from the cupboard and throw them in.. Zero continuity

@@gentlemanbronco3246 Totally understandable, the show is really unclear with dates and reckless with stuff that can have big lore implications, the billboard, the chalkboard, these things can be used to support an argument but this show is in a weird place, it's really bad and people are desperate to defend it, so I didn't want to base any of my conclusions on things that weren't rock solid.

"First capital" is just bs reconning from the show get outta here