There amount of cyclists I seen swapping the road to pavement then swap back just to save waiting and don’t bother to look when re-entering the road is far to many, yeah and it is the good law-abiding cyclists who get branded into the same group
But the law says road traffic needs to stop for a red light. Pavement traffic does not have to follow the red light. Therefor - if a cyclist rides on the pavement to pass the junction then it is by definition not illegal!
Perfectly lawful if a 'Pavement' is also designated for use by cycles. It also means by the time you catch up they're already moving and stable. Trying to pass a cyclist as they set off at a junction is just bloody daft
Made me chuckle, didn't I just see the guys moaning about the man and his 2 kids crossing the road and then he pulled in and stopped on a zig zag by a crossing.
6:59 Sorry, but I would most certainly not let a car/vehicle and especially not a cyclist be responsible for the decision on how I cross the road, especially at a junction like this. The new rules are dangerous and not completely the responsibility of the car /vehicle driver. If a pedestrian is top of the hierarchy they should also be more aware of their surroundings and NOT at the beholding of any one else. After all the pedestrian can see far more of the situation that the vehicles can. I was brought upon the Tufty Club, Look left right and left again as well as the Green Cross Code and my kids were taught the same. That was safe, this is not.
This clip is more about the cars not knowing the rules than the pedestrian who did by the way exactly what I would have done and waited. I agree the new rules are stupid and as a pedestrian I don't follow them because most cars don't seem to know them.
@@thelondondashcam You mean pedestrians don't know the rules, so when you stop for them, they just stand there, farting about at the side of the road, leaving you vulnerable to a punt up the arse from some dopey-roo fannying about on their mobile phone!
It's worth knowing the direction sequence of traffic lights in your home area. As a pedestrian, it let's you move a the most convenient time. At one pedestrian segment of a lighted crossroads near me, it means I can get longer than the almost 10 seconds of the green man. The new hierarchy gives way to the most vulnerable, but it is intended to work around existing infrastructure for busy areas. No one has the right to move anywhere without due care and attention. Perhaps we need the pedestrian versions of driving dangerously and driving with due care and attention.
As a "professional driver" i find it abhorant that you criticise a man for crossing the road with his kids in the manner he did....then you go and stop on zig zags...people in glass houses etc etc
@@thelondondashcam yes you did, your bonnet was lined up at an angle then you cut the video of the front. We can see though (from the rear cam) that you moved forward more to straighten up
Pedestrians can cross the road at any point of their choosing but, yes stopping like that is a TSRGD 2016 section 14 offence "a zig-zag line marked in a signal-controlled crossing facility controlled area conveys the prohibition that the driver of a vehicle must not cause the vehicle or any part of that vehicle to stop in the controlled area."
Commuter cyclist here. Fair play for highlight what I call "rogue" cyclist. I stop at red lights & obey all road/traffic laws. Those numpties are letting the side down for sure. They're giving us all a bad name.
@@thelondondashcam I'd to attend a hospital appointment yesterday. Never been to this particular hospital before, so, not knowing what the lock-ups were like, I left the bicycle at home & got the 2 buses to the hospital. Whilst sitting in the front left seat of the upper deck of the bus, I counted 7 cyclists breaking the red light. If I'd known that was going to happen prior tonthe bus stopping, I would've had my phone ready to record. While us cyclists are not collectively breaking red lights, unfortunately, we are collectively blamed & punished! I was left fuming at what I witnessed.
There is no us. There is no side.The behaviour of people can't reflect on you, except maybe for family members, but even that's a grey area. Ask any car driver if they feel let down or have a bad name because of the behaviour of their fellow car drivers. Running red lights. On the phone. Drunk or on drugs. Speeding. The injuries they cause and the people they kill. How about your fellow tele watchers? What if you discover someone hasn't paid their licence? Do you feel shame about that too? FFS!
At 8:39 we can see the zig-zags painted RIGHT next to that alley to the left. Then when you pull over, the reversing camera shows about 3/4ths of that alley entrance. But somehow you didn't stop on them? Can't see how that's possible, unless you're driving one half of a Smart car? Boy the hypocrisy.
If I get time I will go back to that place park my car in exactly the same place and take a photograph of it and put it on one of my videos then you can apologise.
@@thelondondashcam The evidence is bloody clear lad you stopped on the zig-zag. Carry on learning; you might get the hang of it one day. Self-righteous sanctimonious idiot
Stopping on Zig-Zag road markings at 8:47, conveniently cuts the front video view but the rear camera shows you clearly clearing the entrance. Maybe annoyed the the parent and children have pinched your stopping place ?
@@Bin-The-L-Plates before the zig zags like I said, I'm not at the best of angles and the rear of the car is sticking out a bit because of them standing where I would have pulled in to be parallel with the kerb
Hi, cyclist here. As I've mentioned before, I stop at all the reds and never ride on the pavement unless there's a cyclepath. All those cyclists at the start of the vid are just taking the piss, giving all of us cyclists a bad name. They are asking for a mountain of trouble. Pisses me right off. Respect the road and don't take the piss. Dickheads! Never a copper around when you need em. There's far too much 'I don't give a fu** attitude', 'fu** that, I'm not waiting for those lights', and that has got to change.
The trouble is to the rest of us your the minority. Because we only ever see the shite riders taking the piss. I put this down to your behaviour being normal(respecting the road and road users) and the arseholes pissing us all off. Every road user though to me at least seems in general to be getting worse. In 2000 I’d have said the uk road users were the best in the world. I’d not dare make that claim now. We have all got more easily agitated and no one seems to actually care about others at all on the road now.
@@sloppyfadge9565 And that's the thing, you only notice the bad ones, just like bad drivers and there are plenty of those too, that also jump red lights, speed etc etc.
I totally agree mate. I'm a cyclist too and they're nobs for doing it. Pisses me off as well. Unfortunately seems all too common and I don't understand why they think it's ok?
@@sloppyfadge9565 I'm NOT a cyclist , but it makes me feel good to see them disregarding red lights and driving on pavements .... It's insane to sit at a red light for no good reason , cyclists are much more manouverable , can react quickly and are endangering no one ... The greater danger is the populus robotically obeying laws and regulations .. a little bit of lawlesssness is a good sign .
5:53 whilst I don't agree with cyclists skipping red lights, your tailgating of the cyclist was far more dangerous than anything any cyclist did in the whole of your video.
@@Ulven3829 in this case yes. Tailgating is extremely dangerous, of other cars and especially of cyclists. If whatever is travelling in front of you has to suddenly stop then you don't have room to deal with the problem. Note that I said that I do believe cyclists should stick to rules and I won't defend inconsiderate cycling. However there is an extremely good reason higher standards should be applied to drivers (including myself as a driver) and that's because if you muck up the problems you cause are ten times greater. For example, on my bike I nearly got wiped out yesterday by a driver jumping a red light at quite a high speed. If that had been a cyclist naughtily creeping through a red light, if I'd have been hit then the injuries probably would have been light. However the danger is so much higher when a car does it, I'm pretty lucky to have avoided hospital time to be honest.
Never underestimate the stupidity of people. It doesn't matter what type of transport you use, have consideration for others around you. I have seen bad behaviour from all sorts of different vehicle-users, but it always seems to be cyclists that make people the most angry.
Yes Boris really thought this out when allowed the cylists free reign. No licence plates. No insurance. No knowing who they are if you are injured in any way. But if you clip one then your insurance jumps. Let's have a level playing field.
I use that cycle path in Kingston and more cyclists tend to use it than tend to use the road. I wonder how many 'good' cyclists you film on an average day and how many 'bad' cyclists you film.
To be honest I see more bad than good, I do see some good ones and occasionally I put them on here but nobody wants to see that on a channel like this.
I now ride to work and back in C London 7 mile round trip. I stop at EVERY light. And EVERY TIME 99% of other cyclists steam through. Delivrroo riders are the worst...
That is the reason why police should fine cyclists and pedestrians as well...not only car drivers. All road users should know the HC... Why cyclist are excluded?!
At 6:49, I'm going to disagree with you about the first car, because it was unclear whether pedestrian was going to cross or walk around corner when he committed. Marginal, but I'd give him benefit of the doubt. Blue car: you are absolutely right. Cyclist, again debatable because there's a central island pedestrian had not yet reached. Morally, you are probably right, but there's enough doubt legally to kill any conviction.
I think it was clear what the pedestrian was going to do that's why the first car use the horn so much unfortunately you can't hear it, same with the second car. I don't agree with the new highway code rules but it is what it is and that's what we got to follow. As for the cyclist I was more referring to the way it pulled out in front of the other cyclists didn't even look until it was in the road.
@@ditch3827 At the very start of the clip when you first see the woman, it appears that she is focused on her phone.... the use of the car horn here seems to be justified.
@@jamescollins8397 Not at all. She has priority so the car should have quietly waited for her to pass instead of disturbing the peace and bullying his way through her path with his horn.
@@ditch3827 The car had committed to the turn well before the pedestrian even got near the curb, & had almost completed the turn by the time they had reached it.... so for the driver to use their horn as a warning was a sensible thing to do, especially if the pedestrian was being distracted by their phone, as appears to be the case. As for the horn "disturbing the peace".... all I can say is that the pedestrian certainly didn't seem perturbed by it. Anyway, that's just my opinion, so I'll leave it at that. Cheers.
A lot of righteous anger at the pedestrians crossing at 8:37 before you quite clearly pull over onto the zig zag lines of a pedestrian crossing (although you cut the video before this happens), presumably to park up and drop someone off. "Highway Code Rule 191 You MUST NOT park on a crossing or in the area covered by the zig-zag lines".
@@thelondondashcam No way you stopped short of them they are almost right after the side road, which is practically fully in view in you rear dash cam once you stop, so am calling bull on I pulled up a foot short as you wouldn't see much if any of the side road. You always could re-upload with the complete front facing video for prove. (why i have commented I don't know I really couldn't care other than it appears you're telling porkies.
the imaginary cycle lane @ 5.56 does not take up any of the road, it is a public footpath with a bit of white paint on it on which the pedestrian has priority, it is not a cycle lane.
@@thelondondashcam No, it means it is a shared and obvious footpath, none of the shared path was on the road. The footpath behind the hedge obviously serves the houses it is built directly in front of.
I don’t really understand why you all get so upset. It is their own risk if they choose not to follow the road rules etc, just concentrate on your own driving and if you squash a few, it is their own problem. As long as you have followed the road rules, you cannot be held responsible for others that are not.
7:05 that new rule is one of the dumbest I've encountered in the new update; imagine you're coming off a dual carriageway at 40 and you have to stop; there's a lorry behind you.... Goodnight. Thank goodness they only used the word 'should' rather than 'must' as I've encountered a few situations where it's just too dangerous to let the pedestrians go. Does anyone else remember when you were told not to cross at a junction but go down the road a little and find a safer place?
@@Strider9655 It is a new rule. The old rule stated that you should give way to pedestrians who were already crossing (obvious really, so as to avoid running into them), while the new rule tells you to give way to people who may be about to cross (which of course is dangerous, as you are suddenly stopping with the rear of your vehicle stuck out in the main road, when it would clearly have been safest for the pedestrian to wait a few seconds until you had passed without stopping). The old rule gave the necessary protection, without introducing another (and significant) danger.
@@stephenwalker6823 I beg to differ, the old rule gave motorists a loophole in which to say "it's not my fault I killed that family, they hadn't started to cross"
@@Strider9655 It is simple and safe for anyone about to cross to see that a vehicle is turning in and wait a moment. For a driver approaching, he or she may have no vision of the people until after starting the turn (if they are not right at the end of the road) and have to come to a stop with the rear of their vehicle in moving traffic, causing other drivers, who expected them to complete their turn to have to brake and or swerve, risking rear end or head on collisions. It is clearly dangerous to expect drivers in moving traffic to stop in such a dangerous position. As for a loophole - if they hadn't started to cross, and did not begin to do so while the vehicle was already turning, they would not be at any risk. The rule change has clearly made it far more likely that a collision will occur.
@@stephenwalker6823 The rule has change only in the sense of where the pedestrian needs to be for a driver to stop, it's gone from "in the road" to "about to step into the road", and it's like I said, it's to stop drivers having any excuse for mowing down pedestrians.
If a cyclist injures a pedestrian or vice versa or either of them damage a car, who pays for the damage? Pedestrians and cyclist do not carry third party insurance.
it's no wonder cyclists don't want number plates and to be insured; they know they will need to start obeying the law a bit more. Saw one just Friday went through even with people crossing; narrowly missed the pedestrians.
We really need to clamp down on Drivers though. They just go through red lights whenever they want, blatantly break speed limits (especially at quieter traffic times), pavement parking is ridiculous. The list is endless! Maybe it's time we actually put to use the registration plates that they do have.
Cycling with a numberplate, would be like trying to drive a car with a f**king parachute attached to the back. Any ideas you have otherwise, came from social media clickbait news articles.
Cyclist do not have to ride on cycle paths it is not lawless, read the Highway Code. You might also learn that vehicles are not allowed to stop on zig zags, neither park across a road junction blocking a one way street if your claim you didn’t is valid.
They were in this video, considering it is from a single source, one that also shows good cyclists, I am not convinced, I don't put my footage on YT it would not help your cause if I did...
What I find difficult to understand is that most (if not all!) cyclists are car drivers as well, even if they cycle to work every day, they will have a car for "weekends", or the wife uses it to taxi round the kids or whatever. Consequently, they are fully aware of the issue of stopping at traffic lights etc. Why is it that they seem to take leave of their senses once they don lycra kit, helmet, wrap around sunspecs etc? On Sundays, we see it all over the counties now - middle-aged men "keeping fit" by riding 3 abreast on country lanes. They wouldn't drive 3 abreast in their cars, would they?
@@thelondondashcam No if you watch again you are laughing just as you get to the zigzag but you continue laughing and the car continue to move forward so a quick calculation would indicate the front of the car was parked on the lines you naughty person.
What's more annoying than a bad cyclist? A Just Stop Oil supporter, what more annoying than a Just Stop Oil Supporter? a Just Stop Oil Supporter who's a bad cyclist.
@@thelondondashcam you just pointed out the council took 1/3 of the road and a massive chunk of budget to make them, and they can't are too self important to use them :P
@@gareth14111984 Like pedestrians, cyclists have the choice of using cycle lanes or the carriageway but unlike pedestrians they are not allowed on pavements or footpaths.
@@ditch3827 Exactly my point in another thread here, but as per usual, the cycling brigade are 'we can ride wherever we like'.. Both London and myself we just agreeing that it is pointless to have these things, if the people they were built for do not use them XD
@@gareth14111984 The problem is that they are generally not built right or maintained. To be effective cycling on cycle tracks has to be more convenient and quicker than going by car for short journeys. But so often council build cycle tracks that are less convenient, diverting cyclists to a longer route and making them stop and start at every side road with the consequent loss of momentum taking effort to recover. Cycle lanes are also often poorly maintained and full of street furniture and other hazards. Cycling on the carriageway is therefore often more convenient. As a nation we need to move away from cars to active transport so we need proper cycling and walking infrastructure and traffic calming measures to make driving short distances less attractive.
had a near miss the other day, i was about to cross the road on a crossing, looked to my right and saw a car approaching which was slowing down, looked to my left and saw a car coming to a stop, turned right to see the car stopping so went to cross the road, one foot on the road and car on the right started moving again, driver did stop but just shows how careful we must be, another incident the other day saw me about to cross the road at the same crossing only for a car to come from my right to drive through it
In front of where I used to work every day at 9:30 like clockwork a bunch of cyclists maybe 10 or so would ride along not using the bike lane but completely blocking the one lane and not riding single file as required. If you tooted your horn at them you cop all the usual filthy language and hand signs. I rode my motorcycle through the middle of them one day. Man, did they crack the sads. Yelling at me to have respect and saying you can't do that. LOL. I've not actually met anyone who has any respect for cyclists because of people like these. Here in Australia we are supposed to give them a metre and a half of space when passing them. Bit hard to do that when you are trying to pass them on single lane twisty roads through the hills and your stuck behind them for many kilometres and they refuse to pull over even when there is a spot for them to pull over. Their attitude is they have a right to the road. After a while you think, "stuff 'em" and overtake anyway.
Drivers beeping usually do it once they are alongside cyclists, which is useless & indicates annoyance & anger. Those who use it properly, beep from behind to warn of their presence, are the exception to the extent that many cyclists mistake it as being a frustrated one. In 8 years of regular cycling, I can count on one hand the number of times a driver has used their horn properly for me. Thank you to all who have done this. It really is helpful because I cannot always hear a car behind while I am riding at 18mph.
Why oh why don't the british govt make it law that all cyclists have to be insured on the road? Until there is accountability this will just continue to happen.
Aye, paying all that money for a fancy car, air conditioning, comfy seats, all the gimmicks you'd ever wish for. Then suddenly it's nowt but a heap of scrap iron, stuck in traffic queues, and them dam people with bikes dare to pass me, dare to use the road without paying road tax tch, tch, then there's them people actually walking over my road! Shocking isn't it.
What a sad video. I don’t care if a cyclist goes on the pavement to avoid the lights. If they’re not impeding pedestrians, what’s the problem? Seems like some people just want something to complain about.
@@thelondondashcam yes but there were no pedestrians and even if there were pedestrians you don’t know if the cyclists would have given way to pedestrians. 🤔 I agree that cyclists running red lights is dangerous and illegal but using a footpath to avoid lights is something I would do if in that situation. The video makes the canner look petty.. “oh! Look at the cyclist getting past the lights when I have to sit here boo hoo!”
@@thelondondashcam and because there are very dangerously aggressive car drivers and there are insufficient cycle lanes, I don’t blame cyclists for riding carefully on the pavement. For context, I drive a car and ride a folding bike for short journeys. I think videos like this promote aggressive behaviour on the road. People need to chill a lot more and see the other side.
6:42 pedestrian didn't have priority over the first car as she wasn't waiting to cross, she was simply walking towards it. Second car should have waited.
Yes correct, but it is pretty close and they could see where the pedestrian was going if it was me I would have waited, would probably lose points on a driving test in the same scenario.
Pot kettle black. You appear to think it's acceptable to park on zig-zag lines whilst complaining about the man with his children standing in the road /kerb awaiting to cross. It's not an ideal or fare world out there. Let's all try that bit harder & be tolerant.
As I keep saying I didn't park on the zigzags I did however stop across the junction, I would have pulled in where the man and his 2 kids were but as they were standing in the road (which everyone seems to be missing) I couldn't.
Everything seems to be really minor in the video. BTW, many places around here are starting to allow bikes to yield at stops since it's safer and easier.
as it should be. traffic lights were created specifically for cars. drivers of this era don't realise that because they had seen them ever since the day they were born so they think traffic lights are naturally there for everyone. but more than 100 years ago when cars weren't around, people, horses, wagons, trams were all happily on the roads without any traffic lights. lights came around after cars wreaked havoc as a mitigating method, not a very good.
it's also laughable that he thinks no mobile phone use while riding. that's another rule created specifically for drivers as well after too many, but not enough, horrendous car crashes and deaths caused by distracted drivers.
At 8:15 We drove past the Shell Service Station, on “The Street”, in Ashtead Village (Surrey). Featured on the Right next to the Takeaway Food Shop was Number “32 The Street” which was My Home from 1956 (the year of My Birth) until August of 1967 (when My Parents dragged Me to South Australia). Although I haven’t been in “The Street” since 1967 (55 years) it was instantly recognisable to Me thanks to Google Earth Street View.
Last week I watched 2 cyclists dart across in front of an ambulance on an emergency call out which caused the ambulance to brake hard. Why do they do it.
Boy do you love getting angry and complaining about things that don't affect you at all. And then not noticing all the things you do wrong and get defensive when someone points them out.
I had it the other day when I was waiting to cross a road at a junction. I had 7 or 8 cars that were coming out of the junction that should have stopped to let me cross but neither of them did
Most of the Cyclists featured don’t regard themselves as being simply Bicycle Riders, but as Professional, Semi-Professional or Amateur “Road Racing Cyclists” and because they (for the most part) adhere to International Road Racing Rules, don’t feel obligated to Obey Conventional Road Rules which interfere with the enjoyment of their chosen Sport. They regard themselves as Elite Cyclists and as such Exempt from many Conventional Road Rules, which is of course support by the fact that frequently Police Officers simply ignore their noncompliance with Road Law.
00:12 I don't see an issue here. If the pavement's clear of pedestrians, no harm done. 00:46 It's a pedestrian crossing and no pedestrians are on it, no issue here. 4:35 No issue, he's not sharing the pavement with anybody and isn't breaking any laws. 5:50 You're tailgating that cyclist 6:24 You stop filming before we get a good look at all the motors parked on the cycle lane. There's very good reasons why cyclists don't use cycle lanes. 10:24 The squirrel comment was funny 😀
'What's wrong with the pavements'? If they're anything like around here, probably too much dog shit that irresponsible owners don't bag and bin or just let dogs run free. In my street those really do apply. Sad really.
Im a cyclist and and im on the road and im in the town all of the time with red lights but i stop at red lights and dont and dont filtering either even though its legal i still dont do it and dont go on pavement to go past them
Moans about cyclists, but overtakes a cyclist (4:58 on the video) not leaving the minimum 1.5 m width alongside the pedestrian refuge. Approaching a red light, just hold back and wait for the cyclist to precede, didn’t need to overtake ….. maybe concentrating too much capturing ‘evidence’ instead of driving defensively.
Cyclists should be registered if they want to use the public roads, they should have insurance and wear high vis clothing. Their bikes should be fitted with lights and brakes. The police should issue FPNs if they go through Red Lights, or go onto the public footpath. The amount of pedestrians who are killed or seriously injured every year is rising - write to your MPs !!!!
@@thelondondashcam . If you don’t get caught there’s nothing but if caught it’s 3 point and a fine. I’ve been done for it. So please don’t tell me it’s not and different.
