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@CommisarHood
@CommisarHood 2 года назад
"So Hanni Schimdt took her mechwarriors into hell to buy time... and amazingly for a time she stopped the 4th Amaris Dragoons dead." Without a doubt one of the most awesome lines I have ever heard. Second only to "And so Kerensky made a choice that would change everything... Kerensky... said no. Thus began the Amaris Civil War."
@ralphsexton8531
@ralphsexton8531 2 года назад
Awesome lines indeed. All the more so in Tex's voice.
@brianhenry152
@brianhenry152 2 года назад
27:20 This fictional battle takes place in a real life location. The Gorst flats near Puget sound is a lowland area on the coast of Washington State. When the tides are low, it is a narrow stretch with ocean on one side and dense forests on the other. It was a perfect bottle neck to hem in the numerically superior Amaris Dragoons. Going around would take too long since Amaris and his troopers in the palace needed help immediately. So, much like Thermopylae, a small group of elite fighters held off many times their number through smart use of terrain.
@nemamiah7832
@nemamiah7832 2 года назад
Didn't actually know the location of the fight. Explains quite a lot. I recon, Dragoons should've brought more JJts on their mechs ;D Always bring Jump Jets.
@bthsr7113
@bthsr7113 2 года назад
Though unlike Thermopylae, the enemy wasn't able to effectively flank them, and those brave few who held the line didn't have the majority of their forces glossed over.
@patrickcoyle5469
@patrickcoyle5469 2 года назад
To me, what makes Amaris so believable is that he makes the same mistake as history's other methodical madmen: he won everything he planned for, then kept trying to win more.
@travishayden8351
@travishayden8351 2 года назад
The thing about the "Cameron survivors" is it is, an in-universe rumor. The original Author of the Sourcebook in question has stated (recently) that he loves that it is still an unknown point of contention. And the original sourcebook came out in 2005, and has not been cleared up, purposefully, since. Also, the mech's used by the Blackwatch are Highlander, which is a nearly max assault mech, which has jump jets, and is known for a "Highlander burial" where the mech will jump ONTO a light mech, and just smash into the ground. Also, the Black Watch is a real regiment, that really exists right now. Those pictures are legit pictures of the legit Black Watch.
@everyonethinksyoureadeathm5773
@everyonethinksyoureadeathm5773 2 года назад
Well I really wouldn't put it past the writers to throw a wrench. The ilkhan series has pretty much up and ended the BT universe by putting a stabilizing effect. Having House Cameron coming out of the shadows now, causing a second Civil War or worse seems like something the writers will do rather soon than later.
@baker90338
@baker90338 2 года назад
The thing that puts the highlander burial in perspective is the fact that it’s not only a effective strategy, it’s the realization that it is a execution move. That mechwarrior has decided “if I fits, I sits” and you can do nothing about it. You’re no longer allowed to make decisions, you’re only allowed to watch. That fact alone makes it an audience pleaser, both on and off the Solaris arena. It’s almost as badass as the Axeman making steel sashimi
@travishayden8351
@travishayden8351 2 года назад
@@baker90338 also that, in tabletop, it has a significantly higher chance of not just taking the Mech out, but killing or seriously wounding the pilot as well.
@nick_a91
@nick_a91 2 года назад
a possible alternative name for that maneuver could be the "reverse caber toss"
@baker90338
@baker90338 2 года назад
@@travishayden8351 I mean what do you expect, that mech is being crushed like a tin can.
@npswm1314
@npswm1314 2 года назад
It wasnt that the Black Watch failed...it was that Richard, in his lunacy, had them effectively replaced w/forces loyal to Amaris because Amaris convinced him he couldnt trust them to protect them. Because ofc he did.
@nemamiah7832
@nemamiah7832 2 года назад
To be fair, the only one who truly was Kerensky. Okay, controversial opinion, I know. But consider this: he was responsible for bringing the child up and basically raising the next First Lord. Which he was doing for years. And it's not like Kerensky was young and inexperienced man that didn't know how to command, how to inspire and how to lead. Yet, we have Richard turning out as well as he did. He suspected Amaris being a rat bastard and did nothing. He had seen Richard slowly being corrupted and did nothing. Or whatever he did was not enough. Kerensky - with all due respect to him as a general and a decent person - quite clearly failed at his task spectacularly.
@TheTrueAdept
@TheTrueAdept 2 года назад
@@nemamiah7832 it must be noted that Kerensky was hated by the other lords as well. Even if he told the other lords, they would have sacked him right then and there. Basically, Kerensky had no friends, and only because Amaris played his cards right did he ensure that he had the final laugh.
@magni5648
@magni5648 Год назад
@@nemamiah7832 The problem is that they gave him a full regency. Kerensky didn't just have to raise the next First Lord, he also had to effectively serve as an interim for that position at the same time. The man wasn't a politician and they dumped him into the highest political office *and* had him raise the kid at the same time. Something was going to give in that.
@kereminde
@kereminde 2 года назад
I like how this video is just called "Bagpipes". That means Airier now understands one of the many things Tex brought to the table out of this whole two-part discussion. Another is the infamous: "And Kerensky said 'no'."
@Airier
@Airier 2 года назад
They're good lines. And with how he presents them, they make a huge impression. It's one of the reasons I actually really like Tex's videos in general. Even though he's mostly going over lore, his presentation is amazing.
@kereminde
@kereminde 2 года назад
@@Airier There are more than a few people doing lore videos on RU-vid, but Tex doesn't just decide to read from the text or the wiki. Tex and his team read those, read novels, and digest them. Then they get to work on the script. There are six "purely lore" videos that Tex has done. Tukayyid, The Tripitz Affair, The Amaris Civil War (in two parts)... and the formation of the Clans (in two parts). All of them are intensely interesting and don't get boring.
@tanall5959
@tanall5959 2 года назад
The reason they didn't just go around the Black Watch was pretty simple: It took the numbers they had just to keep them where they were. If they tried to circumnavigate their position the Black Watch mechs would be able to relocate and start marauding around their back line.
@MrPikaGammer
@MrPikaGammer 2 года назад
Not to mention Highlanders have jump jets and a pretty good amount of long range weaponry
@leechowning2712
@leechowning2712 2 года назад
Have you figured out why every last one of us who knew the story have been chanting bagpipes for the last two videos? The crest that they show there is the national crest of Scotland. The translation of the Latin on that crest means "f*** around and find out". The direct translation is "no one can harm me unpunished". The Black Watch is a special select division of the British armed forces. They were effectively the first special forces to ever exist... And have seen action in every British war since the end of the 1800s. Interestingly they have a tendency to win or die. Reformed as a part of the British military in 1881, they saw action in Egypt, in Africa, in India, in France and Germany during the first world War, in Turkey... If I listed every action since that day in 1881 that they were transformed from a police force to a member of the British military... I would effectively be listing every single conflict. The black watch was there. And if you look up the Wikipedia page... At the very end someone has tacked on a comment about the royal black watch... And BattleTech.
@seanodonnell8001
@seanodonnell8001 2 года назад
The game designers did include a scenario in which you can play sort of the first wave engagement of the legendary last stand of the Black Watch. It can be found in the Northwind Highlanders book, Scenario 3: Fall From Glory. It also gives a little history and except of the situation. Though Tex covers it pretty thoroughly. What's fun to note, tabletop wise, skill ratings for a veteran MechWarrior's piloting/gunnery is 4 (normally on a scale of 1-6 because of the use of six sided dice). You roll equal to or above your skill and stuff happens... you get pluses and minuses depending on actions you take making things easier or harder... The Black Watch skills include many members with skills of 0. Cause F-YEAH BAGPIPES! They were able to kill so many of the Dragoons because they're essentially going "New target, designation Atlas. Engaging. Headshot. Target down, acquiring new target..." and proceeded to mow through 250+ mechs, tanks, aerospace assets, and infantry before being nuked.
@ettibbet5493
@ettibbet5493 2 года назад
They basically have custodes/primarch Stat blocks
@VallornDeathblade
@VallornDeathblade 2 года назад
Who on earth thought that throwing infantry at the Black Watch was a good idea... Oh wait it's Amaris, he was probably just screaming at them to throw everything, EVERYTHING they had left at the knot of assault mechs hanging out there out there in the dark.
@ettibbet5493
@ettibbet5493 2 года назад
@@VallornDeathblade it wasn't just infantry my man, he threw something like 140 mechs at them
@kinagrill
@kinagrill Год назад
easiest way to kill a mech is by killing the brain... aka. pilot. also the least armored part. and with Gauss Rifles and such heavyhitting crap, you end up with easily one-shot-kills.
@sluggo9687
@sluggo9687 10 месяцев назад
​@@VallornDeathblade Satchel charges applied to ankle actuators can ruin the day of even a 0/0 atlad pilot, and crunchies are cheap.
@moltensilver8421
@moltensilver8421 2 года назад
The Inner Sphere use of mechs for melee was a feature from near the beginning, as early pilots frequently resorted to it when out of ammo/to preserve ammo or to prove their valour or a billion other reasons. Tex mentions in his video on the Marauder that its arms were reinforced from the start explicitly as a selling feature after GM observed Mech Pilots' tendencies to be brutal on their equipment.
@abigailcramer6514
@abigailcramer6514 2 года назад
Even energy weapons start mechs over heating so spacing out shots by throwing fists to buy time for cooling systems to work can be valuable. Clanners tend to have more range and MUCH better cooling systems so it's less of a benefit.
@WolfHreda
@WolfHreda 2 года назад
23:55 The venerable Highlander, a jump-capable 90-ton assault 'mech with a Gauss Rifle in the right arm and a whole lot of armor. Also, your exclamation of, "They re-nuked them?!" 🤣 Perfect.
@phildicks4721
@phildicks4721 2 года назад
My favorite Mech in the game...the Highlander. I've been playing the game since the 80s and have attempted a "Highlander Burial" to an opponent at least a dozen times. I've only succeeded three times, but each time it worked it was just bloody lovely.
@WolfHreda
@WolfHreda 2 года назад
@@phildicks4721 Hell yeah. There are few things as satisfying in any type of gaming as goomba stomping your opponent into oblivion.
@claytonhess5512
@claytonhess5512 2 года назад
​@@WolfHreda "Goomba stomp" makes me want to name the 733P the Super Mario.
@frankb3347
@frankb3347 2 года назад
A Lance is 4 Mechs. A Company is 3 Lances (12 Mechs). A Battalion is 3 Companies (36 Mechs). A Regiment is 3 Battalions (108 Mechs). I believe that means those 2 Lances of the Black Watch were outnumbered 13.5 to 1.
@andrewtrenkel
@andrewtrenkel 2 года назад
actually its 12 to 1, 2 lances + schmit. 108 v 9
@species3167
@species3167 2 года назад
Outnumbered perhaps...but never outclassed.
@weldonwin
@weldonwin 2 года назад
"Colonel Schmitt, the enemy outnumber us 13-1" "Good, then it'll be a fair fight"
@dbsjohnlee
@dbsjohnlee 2 года назад
@@weldonwin all mechs fire at will. Burn their mongrel hides! Wait... Wrong franchise
@hermeister3870
@hermeister3870 Год назад
I am super late but they were even more outnumbered when accounting that while the blackwatch had only the two lances of mechs, the opposition also had tanks infantry and fighters
@TheGreatDayne1983
@TheGreatDayne1983 2 года назад
The Blackwatch favored the Highlander It’s a 90 ton assault mech with a Gauss Rifle Aka a weapon that can one shot lighter Mechs at long range and accurate enough to sniping Two lances of them could gang up on a single target and destroy them in a very short time.
@dagonofthedepths
@dagonofthedepths 2 года назад
Yeah, but it's in a city and you can kind of say that about any assault mech besides like a stock CGR-1A1 Charger and they were kind of outnumbered 14 to 1. Even vs light it can get annoying to kill one when you have to hit it dead center and no computer in BT can aim properly for some reason.
@dj11o9er
@dj11o9er 2 года назад
@@dagonofthedepths Keep in mind that this is the Black Watch. Before the decline of technology. They have all cutting edge technology and equipment. And they are Gunslinger graduates. They had no flaws in any of their mechs' hardware or software. So nothing annoying would be happening... unless you're a 4th Dragoon...
@dagonofthedepths
@dagonofthedepths 2 года назад
@@dj11o9er Yeah I get that but Battletech uh, tech, never is at the point where it's so overwhelming someone can't touch their opponent and weight of fire does come into play after a point. Like lets look at the Clan invasion, a Thor vs a Marauder. A Thor has a massive tech gap, even larger than here and the pilot would probably be better as well despite having a 5 ton weight advantage. But you put it up against say 2 Marauders, 4 Wolverines, 6 Whitworths, and 2 Spiders, then that's probably a dead Thor. It's not a series where you can get a psychic teenager to pilot a prototype robot and he'll single handedly win a war for you.
@VallornDeathblade
@VallornDeathblade 2 года назад
@@dagonofthedepths By the end, the 4th dragoons had killed 4-5 of the 9 black watch mechs, and how damaged those last 4 mechs were before the nuke? we shall never know. They were wearing the Black Watch down with every attack, the Black Watch just had to not die and hold out long enough for someone to kill Amaris.
@dagonofthedepths
@dagonofthedepths 2 года назад
@@VallornDeathblade Yeah I get that 2 but it's the same problem for me. You bum rush someone with 6x the gross tonnage they'll fall pretty quick, especially if you have fire support. If the battle was measured in minutes, then yeah that makes sense but if that's the case it doesn't make sense logistically (it takes some doing to move large bodies of forces around), if it takes 30 min- hours it doesn't make sense tactically. Yeah, I know it's rule of cool but it's weird given how Battletech works.
@basara7
@basara7 2 года назад
Yes the black watch did fail to kill Amaris, but the fact that they held out for so long and came so close to blowing his bib-wearing ass up, that ended up slowly cranking up Amaris's paranoia over time because he was never absolutely sure that he had gotten ALL of the Black Watch (which he hadn't). And the Black Watch is one of those groups that if you did what Amaris had done and there is even one member left alive.... They're coming for your ass, possibly with satchel charges strapped to their torso.
@TheTrueAdept
@TheTrueAdept Год назад
It should be noted that during the coup, Fort Cameron and The Citadel (the greater complex that Fort Cameron was attached to) weren't destroyed by the nukes (they're what is termed 'Castle Brians' or 'Cheyenne Mountain on crack and turned into a genuine military base' and even multi-megaton nuclear devices tended to only scratch these things) but had their exits blocked by debris. The soldiers in those forts quickly cleared the rubble and worked to sally out aerospace assets and even more ground units. They managed to survive for _days_ before Amaris literally called in a space battleship and ordered it to bombard the complex with _capital-class_ weaponry for _hours_ before they were destroyed.
@s955120
@s955120 2 года назад
6:50 To Amaris' credit, he actually hacked into the palace's security system before hand (which included a lots of unmanned anti-personnel weapons that the palace guards now had to fight). What he didn't know was the throne room had it's own sensor and alarm system that are isolated from the main security system. 9:45 I like to add one thing. I mentioned the palace had a lots of unmanned anti-personnel weapons. So when they jump pack onto the roof, all the anti-personnel and anti-air turret immediately started fire at them. It was not just simple as "jump pack to the top of throne room", it was "jump pack to the top of throne room while dodging all the laser fire and fly suicidality close to the palace's structure so you'll be a harder target." 24:55 Tex didn't exaggerate when he said Fourth Amaris Dragoons barely survive in time. The palace guards had already disabled the palace's security system and was literally at throne room's doorstep when one of the Fourth Amaris Dragoons' IFV ram into the palace at full speed and gun down the palace guards. It was a history's what if moment as the palace guards probably need only one more minute to kill Amaris.
@fatcoyote2
@fatcoyote2 2 года назад
As far as fighting the Blackwatch went...you can plan for the main event. You can train for the main event. You can prepare for the main event. But you still gotta fight the champ, and the champ is the champ for a reason. No plan survives contact with the enemy, and when you're enemy eats a nuke and the best measurable effect this has on them is it pisses them off, you got problems son. And a Lance is four mechs. Hanney Schmidt and two lances, so nine mechs. Granted, they were all Assault mechs (the heaviest armed and armored mech class available until fairly recently). A Star is five mechs, and is a Clan organizational unit. Those mechs the Blackwatch were using were Highlanders. Yes, this isn't a joke. They were named such because they were made for the Blackwatch specifically, though some wound up other places.
@ranekeisenkralle8265
@ranekeisenkralle8265 2 года назад
And if they already did this well in Highlanders, just imagine what they could have done if they had used something like KGC-001 (yes I know that variant didn't exist back then. Still.. just imagine...)
@twohorsesinamancostume7606
@twohorsesinamancostume7606 2 года назад
When I was deployed to Iraq during my time with the USMC I actually met some guys from the real life Black Watch. Consumate professionals who knew their business, every last one of them. I was relieved to hear that their name lives on after the UK folded them into the Royal Regiment of Scotland. Such a storied unit should live on and trust me, their real life record from WWII is just as impressive as this fictional story. Their motto is "No one provokes me with impunity" for a reason.
@Jacen32272
@Jacen32272 2 года назад
The Black Watch was charged with protecting the Royal Family, While this included Richard Cameron, his falling to Amaris's treachery was only a partial failure of their duty; as long as member of House Cameron survived, then they had a partial success. Plus, they cannot be blamed for Richard letting his killer in uncontested, nor for the failure of teh less well equipped and trained ceremonial guards in the throne room. That's on those idiots...
@marvinjohnson2488
@marvinjohnson2488 2 года назад
The mech at time mark 25:20 is called the Highlander. A 90 ton assault mech with a respectable jump capabilities and a Gauss rifle as a primary weapon(throws a nickle iron slug at hyper velocity speed) . Also it has a great close in capacity with battlefists and lasers. Also the terrain around Puget Sound made their last stand viable. (I live in that area). To add insult to injury Highlanders can crush lighter units with a maneuver called the "Highlander burial"(using you jump jets to jump on a lighter mech and crush it underneath your feet)... Good times.
@nokiademon773
@nokiademon773 2 года назад
And this is why I say that Battletech is operatic. It is a grand tragedy and, in this circumstance, all the more elegant for it.
@Alexjanchapro1
@Alexjanchapro1 2 года назад
The mechs from 24 minutes are Highlanders, 90 tons of pure hatred, famous for crushing enemies underfoot with the "highlander burial"
@ranekeisenkralle8265
@ranekeisenkralle8265 2 года назад
Yep. Something I re-enacted with glee during my last playthrough of the HBS-Battletech-game when assaulting the prison at Weldry. (yes, i held off on that until I had around 350tons of angry to throw at it. A Highlander backed up by an Archer, a Marauder, and I think a Quickdraw or something.)
@cdnxman1326
@cdnxman1326 2 года назад
The blackwatch would have the So called "Royal battlemechs" which are typically the most advanced, and superior variants, with the best armor, the best weapons, and special equipment. the Highlander, in particular, with it's Gauss rifle, is an Infamous "Headchopper" easily able to decapitate most mechs in a single shot.
@andrewt3768
@andrewt3768 2 года назад
A lance is four mechs. The Clans use a different unit, called a Star, which is five. Understandable confusion. So it was 8 mechs of the Black Watch fighting the 4th Amaris Dragoons.
@robertsonger9676
@robertsonger9676 2 года назад
Yes Clan system was based on the star and five mechs to a star. Inners here used 4 mech to a lance, three lances to company. three companies to a division, three divisions to a regiment. Star league was based on six to a base unit.
@kereminde
@kereminde 2 года назад
A Lance is four 'Mechs, a Company is three Lances, a Battalion is roughly three Companies, and a Regiment is three-to-five Battalions. And the Black Watch had two Lances (eight 'Mechs) holding off a Regiment - Amaris' Fourth Dragoons. Literally plowing them under as fast as they could because the Black Watch did *not* come to play. They didn't even wake up and choose violence - they embraced it and made that last stand the stuff of nightmares for the poor sods ordered to go try to take just ONE of them down.
@reecedignan8365
@reecedignan8365 2 года назад
@@robertsonger9676 slightly wrong. 4 mechs = 1 Lance 3 Lances = 1 Company (tho House Kurita actually favoured 4 Lances to a company) 3 Companies = 1 Battalion (tho again some factions/regiments favoured a 4th company) 2-3 Battalions = 1 Regiment 2-6 combined Battalion from different regiments or the same could be formed also into a brigade. 2-3 Brigade = 1 Division 2-6 Regiments = 1 Division - note not every regiment would be a mech regiment. Most divisions would likely have 1-2 mech regiments supported by 2 Vehicle based regiments and 2 infantry regiments. Tho by the time of the succession wars such things also changed. Brigade and Division units ceased to exist due to numbers of equipment and such. And many mech regiments essentially became their own mini brigades tho still classed as regiments. - the way it would work is the initial battlemech regiment made up of 1-3 mech battalions (depending on the era and/or battle attrition and/or rebuilding and/or founding the size and number of mechs could vary meaning a difference in a mech regiments size). This regiment would then be supported by the additional deployment of several armoured battalions (some preferred Tracked Vehicles, some tanks and some hover and some a mix) and then several infantry regiments/battalion (some had battalions supporting some were given regiments) + support units like aerospace squadrons and artillery units as attachments. Overall these would all be from different regiments raised newly on their planets however when assigned to the mech regiment would all fall under the mech regiments unit title. Division and brigade sized units disappeared from existence. However Brigade became used to mean not the size of formation but all units that fell under a single title of regiment. I.e. all Regiments of Avalon Hussars belong to the Avalon Hussar Brigade; all Lyran Guards belong to the Brigade of Guard; etc;
@robertsonger9676
@robertsonger9676 2 года назад
you are right... I was not trying to be faction spoecific but giving the basic rule of thumb. He has never played the agme bedore and was trying to give him the base line structure. I mean we can go into Davion's combined arm units and go down a rabbit hole. But thank you always nece for the rules layers to come by and smack someone who is just trying to give basic and battle tech classic stucture.. Thank you ....so much... also.. rememeber I never gave a base date line. Sooo you can tell I was not being specific... if you want me to be factional specific i wqill a give you a date to base the information on. If that satisifies the rules lawyers.
@reecedignan8365
@reecedignan8365 2 года назад
@@robertsonger9676 ehh? You ok dude? Cause those ain’t rules I was lawyering. I said your made a slight mistake and yes I went into detail but for both Ariers sake and for people new coming to the franchise. Calm down mate. Seriously don’t take everything as an attack.
@Jacen32272
@Jacen32272 2 года назад
If you thought the Black Watch was impressive in this battle, you should look up their records from WWI...
@duncankelcey9281
@duncankelcey9281 2 года назад
"Nemo Me Impune Lacessit" Noone Provokes Me With Impunity. The motto of the Royal Highland Regiment. Also known as the Black Watch. A unit that has roots in Scotland and has satellite branches in many of the commonwealth nations and that survived into the 28th century
@janrautenstrauch4729
@janrautenstrauch4729 2 года назад
19:06 Nope, 5 Mechs would be a "star"-unit in Clan-military. An inner-sphere lance is composed of 4 mechs and 3 lances make a company. So 2 lances are just 8 mechs. 24:00 aw, come on, dude. That's the Highlander (the ideal mech for scottish-bagpipe-players). 90 tons of the greatest balance between armor, mobility ans weapons an assault-mech can have.
@kereminde
@kereminde 2 года назад
And at that time... armed with Gauss Rifles in that right arm. A terrifyingly efficient weapon in this case because it can put a hurt on anything in its range rather easily... a really long range.
@janrautenstrauch4729
@janrautenstrauch4729 2 года назад
@@kereminde And with jumpjets it can flank any opponent easily or... ya know, drop down on him. Anyhow, the Highlander is one of my favorite assault-mechs (pre and after clan-invasion).
@ewfisher89
@ewfisher89 2 года назад
@@janrautenstrauch4729 good old "Highlander Burial".
@kereminde
@kereminde 2 года назад
@@janrautenstrauch4729 It's an incredibly capable machine and the only issue I have is how much ammo it tends to carry. (SRMs and LRMs, and later on AC/10 ammo.) I'm always wary of ammo explosions after one of them ripped an Orion apart on me :)
@EnderPryde
@EnderPryde 2 года назад
It was Hanni Schmitt *plus* two lances, so 9 mechs total. Sort of this in between state for 2 lances and 2 stars, but still... 9 mechs versus about 100, and the 9 stood at least a chance.
@JaceSeren
@JaceSeren 2 года назад
Few things let you register your displeasure that something exists like a 90 ton Assault mech firing 250 lbs. solid metal slugs at super sonic speeds.
@TheTrueAdept
@TheTrueAdept 2 года назад
... it's 250 _kg_ of solid Mach 5 slug mate. Battletech isn't GURPS, it uses the metric system for everything. VERY LATE EDIT: The ratio from kg to pound is a kg to ~2.2 pounds, as such you're looking at ~550 lbs of pure, angry, high-speed death.
@bthsr7113
@bthsr7113 2 года назад
What happened was that Schmidt and her mechwarriors were on standby, so when Tim Trip triggered the hardened palace security systems, they were given just enough of a heads up to reach minimum safe distance from the nuke headed for Fort Cameron. The nuke destroyed all but the lowest, hardest levels, from which Hazen and her few people emerged from while Schmidt's 2.25 lances of mechs (9 mechs total) were attacked with a couple direct nuclear tactical strikes. The Mechs used by the Blackwatch were mostly Highlanders, which, aside from being famously armed with a gauss rifle and reinforced legs to jump jet all 90 tons of angry onto other mechs' heads, also carries a 20 tube long range missile system, a 6 tube short range missile system, and 2 medium lasers. Of course, that's the factory default version, and a royal regiment like the Blackwatch might be packing an additional medium laser, and Artemis IV fire control for the missiles. Or possibly some custom variations. Oh, and the Highlanders all come with a cowl, meaning they're harder to kill than most when it comes to headshots.
@phantam23
@phantam23 2 года назад
It's also worth noting that while Fort Cameron as a whole was nuked to oblivion, part of it still stood after the nukes. The Citadel, SLDF Headquarters was built to survive nuclear bombardment and once the survivors at Fort Cameron managed to clear away enough rubble to launch the units within it, they contributed twenty three aerospace fighters, seven assault ships, and a square Battalion of mechs to the fight for Unity City. They're probably the reinforcements that Tex is referring to in the video. The Blackwatch massacred at least four to six companies with 9 mechs, but SLDF HQ held out for a full day, getting nuked a second time and still coordinating resistance before Amaris parked a warship in orbit and levelled it with an hours worth of sustained orbital bombardment. It's possible that the Ghosts of the Blackwatch were part of the forces that survived the first nuke due to being within the Citadel segment of Fort Cameron, in which case they took at least two nukes and orbital bombardment and still managed to be a pain in Amaris' arse for years to come.
@bthsr7113
@bthsr7113 2 года назад
@@phantam23 Holy Highlanders!
@TheRedshirt93
@TheRedshirt93 2 года назад
This section of Tex's video is perhaps the best example of what I love about Tex's lore videos. he never reads verbatim from a wiki, he reads and researches the material, and puts it together into a new and unique presentation more suited to the video format than, say, READING A WIKI LINE FOR LINE. My favorite line(s) are "this wasn't going down like it should have, nobody was supposed to be this hard to kill!" the perfect way to describe a well laid plan falling apart because 8 soldiers proved to be just a bit tougher than expected. Its great stuff, and I enjoy getting to watch someone react to this for the first time! Keep it up, have fun, and buckle up when you hear Bagpipes!
@thehammer4607
@thehammer4607 2 года назад
A lance is 4 mechs, three lances make a company. So the Blackwatch had 8 mechs The 4th amaris dragoons is a full regiment
@nibblitman
@nibblitman 2 года назад
In Battletech terms the Regiment will be 100-180 mechs, armor and air assets and infantry probably along with it.
@selonianth
@selonianth 2 года назад
Nine Mechs, It was two lances plus Schmidt. Tex even specifically says 9.
@thehammer4607
@thehammer4607 2 года назад
@@selonianth true, I forgot that bit
@phantommauler3602
@phantommauler3602 2 года назад
woooooooooooooooooooooo! edit: 12:10 oh hohohohoho just wait until you get the Pentagon Civil War in the Exodus lore vids, you will very quickly learn that how bulletproof a person can be outside a mech solely relies upon how god damned angry you've made them x'D
@WeareroftheFez
@WeareroftheFez 2 года назад
Helps that your fighting Capellans.
@phantommauler3602
@phantommauler3602 2 года назад
@@WeareroftheFez Capellans do make good targets for sword practice xD
@dakkath414
@dakkath414 2 года назад
Helps that is was a Black Watch member in both cases.
@kevreeduk222
@kevreeduk222 2 года назад
3:20 Those are NOT AK47s, those are L85A1s (also known as the SA80). It was the UK's standard issue assault rifle from the 1990s onwards (and updated versions, the L85A2 and L85A3, remain in-service today). The initial variant came in for some significant criticism (some deserved, some not so much) due to shortcomings of the design that were rectified in the A2 and A3 variants. Some in the firearms community, however, will not accept that it is now a decent and reliable firearm choice for two main reasons, firstly that it's a little heavy, and second (perhaps more significantly) because of its "bullpup" configuration (some folks REALLY hate bullpup configurations).
@bthsr7113
@bthsr7113 2 года назад
Also because the A1 was soo bad, they feel the A2 can't be even good.
@Dragonspirit223
@Dragonspirit223 Год назад
Sounds like the Blackjack then. The first variation was... honestly hot garbage. Then they got fixed and no one trusts it
@H9092-2
@H9092-2 2 года назад
Speaking of the Hot Gates. Did you know that there have been 5 battles of the Hot Gates? Guess which the most recent one was. 1941 during the German invasion of Greece.
@Airier
@Airier 2 года назад
I actually wasn't aware of that. 😯
@charlesborden8111
@charlesborden8111 2 года назад
@@Airier Just a note off topic that the Gunslinger was basically the SLDF's next level version of USAF's Top Gun program.
@species3167
@species3167 2 года назад
@@Airier The band Sabaton did an awesome song and video about it.
@Dragonspirit223
@Dragonspirit223 Год назад
Something to note about the Highlander at 15:35 He's missing his entire right arm. He's literally saying 'Yeah, my Gauss rifle just got taken offline. I'm good still'
@sluggo9687
@sluggo9687 10 месяцев назад
That illustration is also the moment they were nuked. That Highlander giving the thumbs up should be the one whose hand was preserved and venerated for over 300 years afterward by the Northwind Higanders.
@TheTrueAdept
@TheTrueAdept Год назад
It should be noted that Fort Cameron wasn't completely destroyed by the nuclear strikes, for it is a 'Castle Brian' or, in simple terms Cheyenne Mountain on an ungodly amount of steroids. While Schmidt was fighting the 4th Dragoons, the rest of the Blackwatch cleared the rubble blocking the entrances and fought for _days_ before Amaris ordered a battleship to blast it from orbit _for hours._ That's how tough these guys were.
@sluggo9687
@sluggo9687 Год назад
23:45 - that is the HGN-732 highlander. Signature Mech of The Royal Black Watch and the Northwind Highlanders. Its 90 tons of angry and carries a gauss rifle. It also fits jump jets - one of the largest mechs of the era to do so. The term "Highlander Burial" describes what happpens when a Highlander uses its jump jets to land on the head of a victim, with predictablely catastrophic results.
@LuoSon312_G8
@LuoSon312_G8 2 года назад
Black watch mechs Highlander (units depicted in last stand) 90 ton Assault mechs bonus: standard commands Lance (inner sphere): 4 mechs Star (clan): 5 mechs
@sgt_s4und3r54
@sgt_s4und3r54 2 года назад
8 mechs, 4 to a lance. Clans operate in Stars which is 5. Keep in mind its a combined arms confrontation so its companies of infantry, vehicles, and mechs. Also if sure its been said but Hilanders are the mechs you couldn't identify. 90 ton assaults.
@selonianth
@selonianth 2 года назад
9 Mechs, Plus Schmidt.
@WeareroftheFez
@WeareroftheFez 2 года назад
Punch it in the face was, by this time, a common Mech warrior tactic. The weapons pods on the marauder, for example, were designed with this in mind.
@bthsr7113
@bthsr7113 2 года назад
Save ammo and limits heat build up, so it's not even that bad of an option... for certain mechs at least.
@egondoerr
@egondoerr 2 года назад
Couple of points: The SLDF forces under Kerenski weren't touched by the coup. Amaris was targeting the garrisons within the inner Terran Hegemony territory. He had no information on what he did. Kerenski himself is now on the upswing with a fully armed and operational military force that could potentially threaten Amaris' hold. Trying to get Kerenski on his side was a long shot, but would have given him the military might to secure his holdings in perpetuity and the experience and resources to build. Trying to bribe Kerenski was stupid, but it was necessary for him to do something to try and secure that force. On the houses doing a sit and wait, right now Amaris has the single largest and most advanced army, but the houses each have their own internal militaries and have Amaris mostly surrounded. At this moment he solved an issue that they had for years and they have the luxury of time on their side. No one is going to be the first to strike at Amaris in the event the other 4 houses are in league. Similarly, if Amaris strikes first to conquer them, they will likely almost immediately unite (for the first time in history) to combine their individual military forces. And considering the houses have vastly superior hdings as far as territory, manpower, and raw materials, even the superior training and tech of the Amaris and SLDF militaries won't help much as they are completely surrounded. The smartest move for everybody right now is to co solidity their holdings and wait. Until Amaris can first strike all of the houses at once, he's fighting a losing battle against the houses. Until each of the houses has the support of all the other houses, they are fighting a losing battle.
@ralphsexton8531
@ralphsexton8531 2 года назад
FASA was based out of Seattle, and it shows. BattleTech's Unity City is located where modern day Seattle stands, and Seattle was the primary setting for ShadowRun. Heh.
@johnsmithfakename8422
@johnsmithfakename8422 2 года назад
I am no battletech lore nerd but even I can understand why 2 lances (8 mechs) can in theory hold off larger lances. 1 - Not all mechs are created equal. 2 - Not all pilots are created equal. 3 - not all load outs are created equal. If memory serves me correctly the Blackwatch uses Highlanders, or 90 ton assault mechs equipped with Jump Jets. One way to look at it is 90 tons of precision shooting, highly mobile, highly defended, ANGER. In theory the black watch could easily grind through the opponents armor while their armor took little damage (IE longer to grind through). Jump jets means that they could reposition much quicker by flying away. If the enemy had 6 lances to the Blackwatch's 2, it would be safe to theorize the heaviest mech would be a, heavy mech. I have seen skilled mech pilots destroy a mech in seconds (this is from the MMO game but I think that is close enough). I am taking away from this is that they did not expect the BlackWatch to survive the initial assault, and they underestimated the Blackwatch's training and equipment.
@noanswer1864
@noanswer1864 2 года назад
When they say "set fires" in the Battletech universe, they mean skyscraper sized bonfires in the literal sense.
@bthsr7113
@bthsr7113 2 года назад
What's with all these oily FWOOMPH!
@novafloresca7758
@novafloresca7758 2 года назад
Airier- The Black Watch 'mechs at 24:20 are Highlanders. It's a very good 90-ton assault machine. Available in miniature form either in metal from Iron Wind Metals, or in the new plastics as part of the Comstar Command Level II pack.
@pyrelight563
@pyrelight563 2 года назад
Identifying feature being the big square head.
@Haloister
@Haloister 2 года назад
So to note on the numbers a bit here. A lance is 4 mechs, a Clan Star is 5, and Comstar typically organizes in units of 6. A IS Mech Company is 3 Lances or 12 Mechs, so the Black Watch was essentially going 9 (the two lances plus Commander Schmidt) vs 12 at a time with those first two companies. Those three mechs you were wondering about are Star League era Highlanders.
@vonKobra
@vonKobra 2 года назад
"I still hate Amaris less than the idiot that was in charge" that feeling is not going to last.
@KMCA779
@KMCA779 2 года назад
Yeah no kidding. Amaris is the only individual to make Capellans and Kurita look like decent people.
@nikolajsteffensen6578
@nikolajsteffensen6578 2 года назад
a lance is 4 mechs(essentially a tank platoon but mechs). 3 lances (12 mechs) make up a company. 3 Companies a battalion. and a regiment consists of 3 to 5 battalions and so it continues upwards with the numbers generally being 3 to 5 of X makes a Y.
@richardstephens3327
@richardstephens3327 2 года назад
A standard lance is 4 mechs. SLDF assault units have 6 mechs to a lance as is referenced in the first printing of the Star League source book. I have never seen a cannon breakdown of the two lances so they could be standard 4 or reinforced Assault 6. This is where the later Com Guards get there organization.
@larslaufer301
@larslaufer301 2 года назад
Short technical thing About IS unit sizes 4 Mech = Lance 12 Mechs = Company 36 Mechs = Battalion (plus air support) 108 to 180 Mech = Regiment What you had with 5 is Clan unit structure 1 Mech = Point 5 Mechs = Star 10 Mechs = Binary Star ...... The Mechs that you don't know about, the 4 from the Black Watch) are called Highlanders and like in the movie with its name those thinks are tough. At least I had many good games with these on table as well as computer games. The mech is also what introduced the "Highlander burail" to battletech where a freaking 90t Mech comes crushing down on its enemy from above, using its jumpjets and its specialy reinforced legs. Beside that, the battle of the Black Watch is "overdramatizised" I think but the Highlander is, in a cityfight, indeed quite an interesting mech. Mix of longrange and shortrange weapons with lots of armor and jumpjets means it can wither your down at range, go into hiding and then crush you with its shortrange weapons and get away by jumping behind the next building. PS: If you get your hands on some Highlanders, espacialy the new ones I will envy you. Tried to get some myself but didn't had any luck. Still I love my Highlander IIC...yes the clans took a good mech and stuffed it with clantech to make it even better. PPS: Your reactoin to this part was gold. Getting home form the last day of work before chrismas, beeing totaly tired, was such a joy. Now can't wait for the next round.
@everyonethinksyoureadeathm5773
@everyonethinksyoureadeathm5773 2 года назад
Lance is 4 mechs, a company is compromised of 3 lances or 12 mechs in number. A battalion is 3 companies or 32 mechs, a regiment is the largest unit that any house can field. It compromises 3-5 battalions in strength. Technically it'd be 2-3 mech battalions, 1 infantry battalion and 1-2 mechanized battalion with all their support units. In essence the mechs in a regiment can range from 72-108 mechs, depending on the Regimental structure. The Inner Sphere before the Star League also known as the Age of War had a total of 5 states. The Terran Hegemony, Lyran Common Wealth, Draconis Combine, Free Worlds League, Capellian Confederation and Federated Suns. The Hegemony was squished between all 5 empires and boasted the strongest defensive and offensive capabilities. Partly due to its doctrinal leadership of always advancing tech, maintaining military readiness and being a neutral party. This worked to their advantage as neither house would want to mess with them. As the decades went by many of the House lords tried to create a unified or at least a 'UN type' governance as a means to regulate or at least bludgeon any aggression to their state. This lead to significant treaties mainly after the Tentenvel incident. The Aries Convention pretty much stopped the usage of WMDs (yes throwing Asteroids was considered a forbidden action). The ones who pursued the Star League Accords were the Free Worlds League and Capellian Confederation. The Confederation had its own motivations...pretty much they didnt want to get slammed by AFFS and...after their venture into Space W. Virginia (Taurian Concordant) the cost of munitions and manpower for 3 systems was rather high. So its not like The collapse of the League made it so the House powers scrambled for the scraps. Its more of the House powers were released from being civil with each other. Bonus notes....the reason the Draconis Combine declared themselves first lord....was because the Cameron's as part of their Accord plan labeled the Combine as 'successors' to the First Lord (and when that got out....it spread to the rest).
@Kalebfenoir
@Kalebfenoir 2 года назад
The Blackwatch were veterans who went into the Gunslinger program, and when they came out, it was because it got too EASY for them. 8 mechs against the entire 4th Amaris Dragoons doesn't sound like much... but those 8 mechs were pulling nat 12 headshots with EVERY trigger pull. The Amaris troops were well trained, but the Blackwatch was so far beyond that it's scary. The fact they lasted so long as they did is terrifying. The damage they did was staggering. No wonder Amaris lived in terror after that, because he couldn't be sure he'd actually nailed them all. And just one Blackwatch was worth probably 1000 or more of his own troops.
@selonianth
@selonianth 2 года назад
Nine Mechs. Two lances plus Schmidt.
@Kalebfenoir
@Kalebfenoir 2 года назад
@@selonianth I thought she was in one of the lances, which would make it eight mechs total; seven mechs plus Schmidt.
@selonianth
@selonianth 2 года назад
@@Kalebfenoir I don't have the material Tex is going from, so I have to kinda take Tex's word on it, but he definitely says Her plus the eight.
@Kalebfenoir
@Kalebfenoir 2 года назад
@@selonianth Just going on the wiki, for Hanni Schmitt (I feel bad I misspelled her name), she 'led a short company' out into the fray. A mech company is 3 lances plus support (support Hanni didn't have cuz of the attack)... so a Short company would be like, somewhere in the range of 2 and a half lances? So maybe you're right; she could have actually walked out with 2 full lances plus herself. I guess the wording is kinda ambiguous in the vid though; it makes it sound like there were only 8 mechs total, and that she was in one of them. Edit: Out of curiosity I looked up Unity City, where they were fighting. In THAT particular article, it says specifically she marched with just 8 mechs, including herself. So she really did just have 2 lances I guess. I dunno anymore. Seems like each new article I find adds or subtracts mechs. Guess that's what happens when you nuke a base and then don't know how many of your targets survived something they shouldn't have.
@selonianth
@selonianth 2 года назад
@@Kalebfenoir And the best part is, regardless of how many stood on the Ghorst flats, there was also however many landed on the palace roof to assault annd the people who were deep under Cameron or just not at the base that day.
@fatboy7609
@fatboy7609 2 года назад
They were holding a peninsula, which is why the Dragoons couldn't bypass the BlackWatch
@robertsonger9676
@robertsonger9676 2 года назад
The Mech you are asking about is the Star league Highlander. My favorite of the Star league era mechs. Assault class, gause Rifle armed Jump jet equipped mech of lore. The mechs death from above attach was named in lore as the Highlander Burial. The clans loved the mech so uch they perfected it as the Highlander IIc. Comstar ues the Highlander in their defense ageist the clans. The mech is truly iconic. The Black Watch were equiped with them and the Marauder
@Springfield1191
@Springfield1191 2 года назад
Lance = 4 mechs, Company = 3 to 5 Lances, battalion = 3 to 5 companies, regiment = 3 to 5 battalions. To answer your "what mech is that" question, it's a Highlander, the standard issue Assault Mech of the Royal Black Watch, 90 tons of walking insane mad-bastardry.
@dagonofthedepths
@dagonofthedepths 2 года назад
just for reference a Highlander is 90 tons can move at 54.0 km/h jump 90m and is armed with 2x Medium Lasers 1x SRM-6 1x LRM-20 1x Gauss Rifle which is a good long-range payload with nice close range back up although a guass is fine in close.
@albireo8166
@albireo8166 2 года назад
HAPPY ANGRY BAGPIPING MAXIMUM INTENSITY, also the motto is latin for 'no one attacks me with impunity'
@lastechocorp1841
@lastechocorp1841 2 года назад
a lance is 4 mechs, a star (clan lance) is 5 mechs. a company is three lances. so the black watch were out numbered 9 to 24 and all but anhilated then. the black watch were depicted using the highlander (the royal SLDF varient) equiped with a gauss rifle, lrm 20, srm 6 and 2 or 3 medium lasers. you get one in HBS battletech 2016 as a mission reward its amazing.
@RobertWilke
@RobertWilke 2 года назад
The image of Hazen is from much later on. AT this time she was in her Prime about late 20's early 30's. The giveaway of that picture is the Bird. That's all i'll say on that. To paraphrase "Schimdt happens" is very apt here. As good and well trained Amaris' forces were. The Black watch had the Home Field advantage. They knew what they were up against and had the lay of the land to pick their fights. Yes this whole part is basically the preshow, what comes next is a work of military execution bar none. The General that said NO is more intelligent than anyone he's facing and he'll prove it in the next part. Oh and Hazen has some unfinished Business with Stefan but that's for later. Also you haven't heard the last of the bagpipes. Think of it like Capt Hook and that darn Crocodile. Yeah he's going to be a bit jumpy.
@chesterstevens8870
@chesterstevens8870 2 года назад
Let's be honest: the Blackwatch got a hella-sweet buff to their plot armor from writer fiat. I know everybody loves the "whiskey, kilts and murder" meme, but with how many odds were against them They should have, in all probability, got wipes off the face of Terra by Amaris.
@Vynirian
@Vynirian 2 года назад
@KarSoban agreed.
@TheGreatDayne1983
@TheGreatDayne1983 2 года назад
@Chester Stevens The Blackwatch were mostly in Royal Highlanders, 90 assault Mechs with jump jets and city fighting for most of the battle. They probably never faced more than a couple lances at once without jumping out and maneuvering into better positions
@everyonethinksyoureadeathm5773
@everyonethinksyoureadeathm5773 2 года назад
@@TheGreatDayne1983 don't forget that those mechs were probably equipped with ECM, Targeting Computers and C3 Computers. It would make them that much harder to kill overall and effectively double their ability to cause maximum harm with the lowest volley of fire. A gauss rifle with a ballistic targeting computer, that had full on destination of the mech cockpit would be instant decapitation.
@TheGreatDayne1983
@TheGreatDayne1983 2 года назад
@@everyonethinksyoureadeathm5773 Not to mention some of the best (non clanner gene-gineered) pilots in the entire inner sphere that ever lived. If the fought smart (which since they were buying time they were trying to drag it out) and used their mechs firepower and maneuvering capabilities to avoid as much damage as possible, then yes, I do buy that they would be able to tie up a much larger force
@EricSwordswinger
@EricSwordswinger 2 года назад
"Nemo me impune lacessit" is the regimental motto of the Blackwatch, as with most mottos the phrase is in Latin. It means, "No one provokes me with impunity." You have to admit, it's quite apropos.
@bthsr7113
@bthsr7113 2 года назад
Considering how many they took with them, very.
@abigailcramer6514
@abigailcramer6514 2 года назад
A lance is four mechs. A company is twelve. Those mechs are the Highlander, it's not fast but jump jets and urban combat compensates. Most of the blackwatches mechs were wiped out, the two lances were all that had mobilised and moved out of the immediate blast radius before the nukes hit.
@Nostroman_Praetor
@Nostroman_Praetor Месяц назад
24:12 Those were Highlanders, identified by their unique heads, and the fact were talking about The Blackwatch. If sources are correct, its the HGN-732 model made for the Royal Regiments. The Highlander is historic in the setting because of the crazy things pilots would do with it, and The Blackwatch's last stand. Its so greatly revered for this that its seen battle across time and space in the setting. Also, because Clan Jade Falcon have their roots in The Blackwatch, they made a clan varient of it naturally called The Highlander IIC. I got DFA'd by one last night on Mechwarrior online, which was kinda what The Highlander was modified to to in the first place.
@horsemumbler1
@horsemumbler1 2 года назад
15:50 Battletech, where it's warcrimes O'clock twice per day.
@stevenclark2188
@stevenclark2188 2 года назад
2 lances.... So you know how Urbanmechs are good in city combat because their jumpjets allow them to go around obstacles instead of through them and they have a big autocannon for burst damage potential? Well the SLDF royal version of the Highlander is a 90 ton assault with jump jets, 3 medium lasers and an upgraded-guidance SRM-6 to hurt anyone close, and a Gauss Rifle and upgraded LRM-20 to provide fire support at a distance. I think a more experienced commander would have resorted to nukes sooner.
@badgerwijohnson4081
@badgerwijohnson4081 2 года назад
4 mechs in a lance, 3 lances in a company, 3 companies in a battalion, 3-4 battalions in a regiment.
@shawncubbon1886
@shawncubbon1886 2 года назад
There is a group of us that play Sunday afternoons just northwest of Pittsburgh.
@raw6668
@raw6668 2 года назад
Part of the reason the Great Houses did nothing is a simple fact they knew they would lose. The fact is that their military was so small and technologically inferior that even united, and had twenty years to build up their forces, they still lost for their enemies could steamroll through them for they had the numbers and the technological advantages. Even the SLDF without logistic support can and will be able to do it against any major power. So they did nothing, and waited for both sides to deplete their forces before trying to take over.
@jameswhitlark9507
@jameswhitlark9507 2 года назад
Remember one guy triggered the alarm. One guy mistake messed up the plan.
@sluggo9687
@sluggo9687 Год назад
A lance is 4 mechs. A company is 3 lances, a battalion is 3 companies. A regiment (the 4rh Amaris dragpons) is 3 battalions. These would be mixed battalions of mechs, aerospace, armor and infantry. Hanni Schmitt's command was a short company - 2 lances + 1 command mech - 9 in total - all of which were royal grade battlemechs (Schmitts personal Mech was an exceptionally rare and st*pidly powerful Atlas-II) each of which vastly outclassed anything in the 4th Dragoons' arsenal. The watch were all gunslingers - so forget about the typical approach of coring through the opponents heavily armored cenrer torso. They were good enough to target exposed joints and cockpits. Nearly every shot the Black Watch fired would sever an arm, or a leg, or delete the cockpit and pulp the pilot within. A single salvo from those 9 mechs would drop nearly their own number in an instant, and the dragoons had no hope of answering that kind of lethal precision in kind. The terrain of the flats meant they couldnt go around them or even hope to flank them. Thr dragoons could only march straight in, and be greeted with a quick and merciless death.
@savage0987654321
@savage0987654321 2 года назад
3 Lances to a Company, 4 Mechs to a Lance
@savage0987654321
@savage0987654321 2 года назад
and Highlanders
@sluggo9687
@sluggo9687 Год назад
21:00 - no, the inner sphere mechwarriors were perfectly happy to throw hands at the first opportunity. Look at Tex's video on the Hunchback, or remember that the Marauder's arm weapon pods were speicifally overbuilt to accomodate bludgoning.
@Tzilandi
@Tzilandi 2 года назад
After orchestrating Richard Cameron alienating his most powerful vassals and top general, then getting him to tax the shit out of his most disloyal vassals, then convincing Cameron to give HIM the money and using that money to arm the most disloyal vassals and encouraging them to rebel, then moving his entire army into the Hegemony, before executing Cameron with his own birthday present- I'm just saying, if Amaris wants to wear a bib, he's allowed to wear a bib; he's earned it.
@TheTrueAdept
@TheTrueAdept Год назад
Given just how well-armed the throne room would have been... it would likely be a turret with a _small vehicular laser_ (or, in output terms, something around 100MJ per sustained beam) that the goon accidentally tripped.
@ranekeisenkralle8265
@ranekeisenkralle8265 2 года назад
19:05 Not ten. Eight mechs. Only ones using five mechs per unit are Clanner scum. Eight mechs held the line against an entire regiment of Amaris' finest. 22:00 A company consists of three lances, so 12 mechs.
@dj11o9er
@dj11o9er 2 года назад
Nine mechs held the line, actually. It was two lances and a quarter.
@selonianth
@selonianth 2 года назад
Nine Mechs. Two lances plus Schmidt.
@26th_Primarch
@26th_Primarch 2 года назад
Stringstorm well known for Warhammer 40k songs will be releasing a song for The Black Watch in the near future
@Airier
@Airier 2 года назад
Before I even started watching the text videos, I saw a string storm did a song for the Battle of Tukayyid.
@26th_Primarch
@26th_Primarch 2 года назад
@@Airier there's one for The Grey Death Legion too
@taylorkeating6884
@taylorkeating6884 2 года назад
When I want background noise and want to listen to Tex and Airer, the part about the God-damned Black Watch is my go-to. The slowly building realization of what the Black Watch is and what their fate is is great.
@supsup335
@supsup335 2 года назад
Tip: rewatch everythingvup to this point, except the blackjack. This will help you understand the coming shitstorm
@retrosquadchannel2.050
@retrosquadchannel2.050 2 года назад
There were 9 mechwarriors of Black Watch - commander and her 8 fellow warriors. Lance is 4 mechs. And one of the reasons, why other lords chose Kerensky as regent of idiot Cameron - was not only his neutrality, but also honour and loyalty to SLDF. Later you'll see how honourable Alexander Kerensky was. What of remaining Camerons - after that massacre in throne room, history lost track of surviving Camerons.
@sluggo9687
@sluggo9687 Год назад
18:40 - when most of your shots are either headshots or kneecappers, 9 of the best mechs ever made, piloted by the deadliest mechwarriors in existence are enough. And yes, most of their shots were headshots. "Target engaged. Headshot. Target down."
@sluggo9687
@sluggo9687 Год назад
4:15 - yes. That is exactly what he did. And 10 days later, fat Ghengis Khan removed his head with a fancy laser pistol.
@Demolitiondude
@Demolitiondude 2 года назад
Use the terrain to your advantage.
@cygryl
@cygryl Год назад
So 4 mechs in a Lance, the 4th dragoons were a regiment so roughly 150 battlemechs plus support.
@Daolnwood
@Daolnwood 2 года назад
It's time for the G_dd__ned Blackwatch
@kinagrill
@kinagrill Год назад
Amari's ONE great error was the assassination and extermination of house Cameron... that was a BIG nono. It would be expected that he would put them under house arrest or imprisoned... but to murder and exterminate them if not 100%, then nearly so, yeah imagine a noble lord in the middle ages doing so and how fucked he'd be for not respecting status and protocol.
@redbear6
@redbear6 2 года назад
Maxim 20. If you're not willing to shell your own position, you're not willing to win.
@Rorahusky
@Rorahusky 2 года назад
Yep, a mere two lances held up the Amaris Dragoons. Fighting in Urban environments does /wonders/ when you're the defender and know the terrain. Plenty of opportunities to isolate enemy units and cut them apart before they can respond.
@Rorahusky
@Rorahusky 2 года назад
For reference, a Lance is 4 Mechs. A company is 3 full Lances, and a regiment in Battletech is 3 Companies. So that was a 36 vs 8 fight, and by the time it was over and the nukes hit, those 8 'Mechs had devoured two-thirds of their opponent's forces.
@Rorahusky
@Rorahusky 2 года назад
The Mech in question is, amusingly enough, known as the Highlander. The Black Watch use it extensively because Scotts. It's 90 tons of pain and mounts Jumpjets, so it is entirely capable of literally landing on another mech and crushing it beneath them in a maneuver they call the Highlander Burial.
@hakonsgaming535
@hakonsgaming535 2 года назад
the mechs the blackwatch are piloting in the picture you can't recognize are Highlanders. Because of course they are. Granted Highlanders are one of the most deadly and popular mech designs out there.
@adamgrimm4310
@adamgrimm4310 2 года назад
That would be a Highlander, they also liked the Black Knights.
@bthsr7113
@bthsr7113 2 года назад
And Marauders if they want to go light, settling for mere heavy mechs.
@Xalerdane
@Xalerdane Год назад
Your understanding of the Greco-Persian Wars and the relevant geography causes me physical pain.
@oldmangimp2468
@oldmangimp2468 2 года назад
24:23 Since it's the Blackatch, I'd guess that the Mechs are Highlanders.
@dj11o9er
@dj11o9er 2 года назад
They're the older art design of a Highlander, yes
@thorveim1174
@thorveim1174 2 года назад
A lance is 4 mechs. The 5 mech squads are found in the clans, not the sphere (and are called Stars). So the Blackwatch held an army.. with 8 mechs.
@dj11o9er
@dj11o9er 2 года назад
9 mechs, if ya count the commander
@claytonhess5512
@claytonhess5512 2 года назад
24:06 I'm sure others have already said it, but those mechs are Highlanders: (arguably) one of the best IS mechs in the game.
@brentkalmbacher9092
@brentkalmbacher9092 Год назад
To the Blackwatch, nukes are merely an inconvenience.
@KenS1267
@KenS1267 2 года назад
This was Thermopylae. It was a narrow spot and the defenders were the elite of the elite. The Spartans held for 3 days until a traitor led the Persians around behind them. The RWR solution was more nukes.
@kereminde
@kereminde 2 года назад
Hey, when nukes work.... .... I mean, they didn't work in THIS case but it's because the goddamn Black Watch refused to die. After all, nobody had said they could :)
@bthsr7113
@bthsr7113 2 года назад
@@kereminde it worked on the mechs and most of FT Cameron. So actually pretty good.
@kereminde
@kereminde 2 года назад
@@bthsr7113 Let's put a pin in that and wait until after Part 2.
@austinzion4903
@austinzion4903 2 года назад
I know someone else is probably going to mention it in my messages going to be redundant but 4 mechs is one Lance so essentially it was only eight mechs left fighting.
@deathkorpsofkriegguardsmen8488
@deathkorpsofkriegguardsmen8488 2 года назад
SOUND THE BAGPIPES
@ScarriorIII
@ScarriorIII 2 года назад
Don't know if you all know this...but Cameron is a Scottish name.
@kjohnson9306
@kjohnson9306 2 года назад
Black Watch. Nuff said.
@badgerwijohnson4081
@badgerwijohnson4081 2 года назад
24:40 mech is a Highlander.
@franksmedley8619
@franksmedley8619 2 года назад
A Lance is four Mechs. So the Black Watch had nine Mechs in the tight confines of the restricted terrain. Unlike Thermopylae, the Armaris force(s) could not out flank the Black Watch's position. Add to this that the Black Watch favored the Highlander battlemech, a 90 ton machine with Jump Jets and a Gauss Rifle, and you have a real problem. Then add that the Black Watch was the 'best of the best'... a force that literally trained ALL the time. In Battletech, you have a 'Legendary' pilot if your pilot has a Gunnery Skill of 2. The Black Watch's Gunnery Skill was ZERO. They could literally make Mechs do things that were totally impossible for any other pilot, no matter how skilled. They could specifically target cockpits at long ranges, and hit accurately most of the time. And being inside 90 ton, jumping death machines, they could perform the Highland Burial (Death From Above maneuver) while shooting at range accurately. This literally was a battle where the Black Watch held the best Tactical position, had the best trained units and pilots, and the best Mechs for the job. The only thing that was against the Black Watch was numbers. Had only another pair of lances survived, they would have held easily and defeated both Regiments of Amaris' forces with minimal loses. By my estimate (and I've been playing since 1984, AND I am a former USMC Weapons Instructor) the training of the Black Watch of that Era was even superior to anything the Clans have ever fielded, or could field. Clan warriors are bred from the best gene stocks, and trained from birth to be warriors. But, on the other hand, are 'retired' by the time they are in their 30's. So, at most a 15 year period of being militarily the 'best', before forceful retirement to 2nd line, or support positions. The Black Watch however trains their entire lives when not in combat. Given the outcome of the battle, and starting positions, I would assume that every member of those two lances, as well as their Commander, were at least in their 40's. A level of skill NO Clanner would, or could ever achieve. But, that's just MY opinion.
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