"I'll put the mouse right in the middle of the screen" That's the most chaotic evil shit I've seen a streamer ever do, I'll have to get my twitter mob and cancel Jiyuna for that alone
Old school gg players: You new school players are soft. Back in my day we were lucky if we even got a chance to press buttons. And even when we got a chance to do some offense, Baikens would just interrupted our block strings and punish us for daring to play the game at all.
Yo Jiyuna. Do me a favor and message youtube. I tried to watch this video but every time I clicked "Play", the video hit me with a guard cancel.... meterless. Rude af. Worst part is when I got fed up with it, I tried to close the tab and a tatami mat fell down and broke my keyboard. Then my speakers screamed Tatami Gaeshi in like 3 different ways and another one fell on my mouse. Breaking it too! I'm too old to be dealing with this, Jiyuna. What am I supposed to do with a broken keyboard and mouse and like 20 tatami mats?! Talk to your people at youtube hq.
The best part about Baiken's guard cancels? They attack you during the hitstop of the move that was blocked. Accent Core and +R are just games about bullshit on bullshit with bullshit to counter other bullshit. I love it
I remember people complaining about Baiken's counter being changed in Xrd when she was first released. I want to meet the person that plays a good +R Baiken and thinks "I want more of that in all of my fighters".
I played Baiken back in the original accent core. There are ways to bait and punish her guard cancels. She has super low health, so any punish will make the Baiken player reluctant to spam her specials.
the difference between baiken and testament/zappa is that a mediocre testament/zappa can get away with scrubbery. Baiken players gotta be on top of everything to be any good at all.
Actually, Zappa needed some serious skill to be good at. Testament is a very good beginner pickup compare to the rest though his defense and next to zero reversal on wake was his biggest con since it was very unconventional and needed to practice a lot more.
@@mostverticalproductions4808 The hardest thing was in the beginning of each round. Most of Zappa player had to play a disadvantage Neuch just to get a safe Centipedes. Axl players are also Zappa worst nightmare in this game.
@@mostverticalproductions4808 Yeah, like how Millia was always top tier and run on rampage but stop when she fights an Order Sol. One of her worst nightmare.
@Ezra Nobleheart Today's my second day, I like ABA. She kinda reminds me of Hunting Horn in Monster Hunter. Her regular form is the old Hunting Horn, while the goathead mode is like new Hunting Horn. In other words, mediocre to amazing.
What makes a good Baiken different from a bad Baiken is that one knows Baiken sucks and they have to be good at the game to make her work while the other saw a tier list(or her boobs) and picked her up.
You do not play this game if you think Baiken sucks, she's not Testament or Zappa good but she forces rushdown characters to either play her way and soften there pressure or to eat shit trying to run there offense, this isn't even mentioning her effective and safe oki and great space control or her ability to take away basic movement and buttons while blocking, this character is fucked up if you actually know what you're doing
@@jonnysac77 I mostly spoke from personal experience. Baiken is very strong, but the skill gate for getting the best out of Baiken is high enough to make players commit to playing her or drop her. Hence you either see really bad Baikens who can't play her for shit or the terrifying monsters that you can mistake for TAS gameplay. Sucks wouldn't be the right word, more like demanding.
@@jouheikisaragi6075 now I feel weird for being the one mediocre Baiken who knows what to do but isn't good at doing it and yea, Baiken has some really tricky stuff that's important to playing her well like her most powerful neutral and mix-up options being locked behind TK motions, besides that I don't think she's that hard compared to some of the other characters in +R, she's just weird and most coomer frauds drop her ounce they realize that she heavily relies on defense and oki which turns off like half of her ""fanbase""
''the big three are testament, zappa and baiken.'' I(baiken main) mostly have played against my friend(Zappa main) and i can tell you that i needed to have another kind of mentality, Its defenetly made epics fights.
Honestly, the Suzuran (Baron Run) buff was the biggest boon given to her in +R compared to all other games. Free guard cancel specials off of a fucking autoguard dash with no trigger for it? Fucking nuts. Also back then her Baku (Bind) seal supers were just singular moves on their own with different kanji. In Slash-onwards, they all had new kanji gained followups which carried over as Force Breaks. For general weaknesses, Baiken can't afford to tank hits due to low stun resistance as she needs to have solid defense. Or you can just learn to stick a Suzuran followup into anything lolz Also as Zankuro (Slaying Bane Carriage) was re-added back to her base version in +R (the back-facing spinning wheel shred anti-air), Youshijin (Mystic Thorn Array) can now be done standalone as a pseudo-DP (the chain anchor ground rise). Meanwhile in Xrd: "So she has those guard cancels as usual, right?" "EEEEEEH.....EEEEER....weeeeeeeeell...."
As a member of the Unga Bunga committee, Jiyuna is no longer a part of our clan for being Unga Bunga'd by Baiken and not harnessing the power of Order Sol Effective immediately Thank you Happy Unga Bunga'ing
@@ANIMEILLUMINATI when in doubt, Level 3 gunblaze, Action Charge, FRC, Fafnir This is what the high level players dont tell you: When encountering a High level player, play like a scrub Its that simple Do bizarre shit that will make them question their life choices. For instance, 6HS. 6HS. 6HS or run up to them and use HOS's best Anti Air, Its not 5HS. Its Gunblaze Use this wisdom wisely
Imagine if he runs into a Chipp player... Especially ones that does his FRCs like butter. He considered to have a positive MU for Testa, Zappa his worser MU is Anji, Jam following by Slayer and Baiken his worst one is considered to be Pot (who would've thought)
TBH, I would take these top 3 all day over Elephant. They are top tier but has glaring weakness. Zappa could be a nightmare but an Axl or Faust could still murder him any day due to their advantageous matchup. Despite Testament's broken ass Oki and trap, he got very weak Reversal game and his defensive option was not beginner friendly at all and need more creative mind. Baiken needs to be familiar with GG in all shape of form and she's not easy to use and could subject to losing a lot more than even Sol and Ky when starting out. Heck, a bunch of Pot players are rampaging around to kill Baiken because it was their BEST Matchup. On knockdown or a well-time flicked and Baiken are out. Elephant in Xrd have virtually no glaring weakness, her matchup was like 99% advantagous or even. Her worst matchup was Johnny and it was mostly even with like 4.8 -5.2.
I mean he can say this character is "broken" but he has taken 2 games off them despite them "never stopping playing this game" and him still being relatively new. In this game so many characters have good tools that player skill can trump tier list at all but the highest level.
As a new player to this game, Sol/HOS, Chipp and May are the most fun matches imo. Every other character is some kind of zoner/trap character trying too hard to control the screen while running away or they are just too gimmicky.
I love GG but one of the things I really dislike is the varying hurtboxes / weight and the ensuing chara specific combos. In KoF, *after* the first hit registers, all hurtboxes are normalized, which means combos should work the same on any character, and that's frikin awesome. Sure it's a form of masochistic matchup knowledge but there's enough stuff to learn and deal with already...
BlazBlue standardized more and more about the game including hurtboxes (except like two characters iirc) as the versions went on, so it really seems like the way going forward.
Acc+R Players: This is Real Guilty Gear Xrd People: NO! Xrd Is Real Guilty Gear First Guilty Gear PS1 Players: LOL YOU HAVE NO IDEA Me: *Facepalm* We Just Keep Going On And On. LET ME ENJOY GUILTY GEAR.
How to take the offensive against Baiken: 1) You don't. You are only gonna get yourslef hurt. Stop that. No but seriously, I feel like out of those three Zappa is the one I'd rather fight. It just terrifies me to hit Baiken and I really can't keep up with Testament's bullshit. I feel like if you keep in mind the strong points and weaknesses of each summon you'll be fine agains Zappa, but that's just me
Baiken is so hype totally my play style I hope we get her in strive. With that said tho her guard cancels need to be like high risk there needs to be a real punish most characters can get on her if she is careless with them
So basically it's not that Baiken should never be top tier, it's just that a character should never have that kind of meterless guard cancel that you also get a combo off of
Baiken reminds me of my first experience with a Guilty Gear game, where the kid down the street instant killed me and I didn’t even know how to pull off a Gunflame. Good times, man.
I came here to learn how to do baiken combos since I play her, but the mouse pointer in the middle (even though its not perfect middle) prevents me to concentrate on the gameplay. Thanks Jiyuna.
@@ANIMEILLUMINATI doubt. theres already a samurai in the base roster. They are better off plucking zappa/test/kliff(yuck) just so they wont have characters skipping two whole installments of inclusion.
i know your all just laughing it up or whatever, but I'd be cool with baiken being top tier as long as it doesn't involve removing the opponents buttons or movement options lol.
I tried moving my mouse more than once watching this...I'll have you know sir, you are in direct violation of the Geneva Convention and you WILL lose your channel. However, in the unlikely event that you are acquitted by the ICC, I would love to see more matches.
@@ANIMEILLUMINATI heys thanks for the reply...love your videos. Was especially rooting for you when u made the videos vs zappa, testament n this video. Its amazing that u manage to even get wins. But then i saw ur the amount of games u played, its no wonder your good even against them
