Police are allowed to assist baliff as long as the baliff thinks the defendant is presenting a threat and stopping a enforcement officer on his duty is illegal
@@SurahOnline yes if the door is unlocked. They can also use force on their second visit which is the case in this video. The biggest mistake they made was allowing them to enter on their first visit. The law states that the first visit must be peaceful entry. They can't even put their foot in the door to prevent you closing it and they certainly are not allowed to push past you. Had they known this then the second visit would have still been classed as the first visit because they still have not been able to take control of any goods due to being denied access. The problem i see a lot of the time is some bailiffs either deliberately ignore the laws that apply to only business premises or are unaware. With businesses premises they can actually use force on their first visit to take control of goods and then their second visit is exactly the same as with residential where force can be used to gain entry to remove goods they took control of
Not the whole of the UK , only get this in England, Scotland and Wales. Never in a month of Sunday’s would these bailiffs turn up at your door in Northern Ireland to take goods .
The problem here was they let them in. Once they are in (even if its just for a coffee) they can legally come back and force entry. DO NOT LET THEM IN.
Amazing how police jump to the defence of bailiffs. Phone em because you've been burgled and they might phone back a few days later when they're not busy.
its been three months since my motorbike has been stolen.... police did nothing i found it took them too it they said theres nothing they can do.......... got attacked by a phsyco in my house took them three days to respond when i had a bailiff at my door police where there in two minutes saying hes was allowed to enter my property when i told them what the law was they allowed the bailiff to harass me for another 4 hours untill he gave up i asked the police to remove the bailiff due to his falsification of documentation harassment ect they did nothing............. i put a complaint into police force and suddenly every day i was being stopped on my motorbike they never got anything out of it but this went on untill the officer was suspended two years later after courts and solicitors fees
@@jamiehines2349You considered repaying any of that eye-watering sum of money yet? Or do you think you should just be allowed to get away with taking £29K of someone else's money and not paying it back?
Even solicitors need the law book to refer back too, even in a court . Majority of people know partially what there talking about, normal under pressure to not recite correctly. He isn't wrong , quite frankly to see continued footage of police presence but do very little pisses off everyone. Disgusted by this police officers actions.
Find this hilarious. The officers job was nothing but ‘prevent the breach of peace’. His job was basically come no closer than the garden fence, rather in or out. He then took it upon himself to move up to the home owners personal space, without being asked, and stood there, on the owners land looking as though he was ‘protecting the bailiff’ and preventing the gentlemen from entering his own home. The officer had no right to touch the man or even arrest him. It was a dispute between the bailiff and the owner. The officer took his ‘power’ and enforced it above his authority. To be fair, the officer had no right touching or trying to prevent the owner from removing his goods as it’s between the bailiff / high court and the gentleman. It was no business of the officer.
@@leongreenway9287 its a great feeling to build up a load of debt and then go missing and don't pay it back, its almost like you've achieved something.
The police officer went from requiring a briefing on the law to being fully in the know, so much so as to make an arrest...in about 10 seconds - Classic 🐷
This lying cop was out of his depth and made himself criminally liable. To every cop attending a scene with a Bailiff: This is what you risk when you choose a side.
Not really he was saying he’s mentally sick and implied he would stab them in the throat ? He a dumbass mate standard idiot ohh I’m mentally sick blah blah he’s not he’s just a attention seeker like u
@colinpryor4290 is it much of a risk though with someone in massive debt? How will he afford professional assistance in the criminal court case? Video here his only hope.
He stated multiple time he's under the mental health act. That makes him legally vulnerable and bailiffs are by law meant to change their approach when presented with this info. They're supposed to contact their boss before proceeding.
This video I found to be sad and amusing. Sad for very obvious reasons, but quite funny the way the guy was acting. I'm astonished as to how calm and collected the woman is throughout this.
Cops looking after companies again! Why are they NOT helping the people, but applying the law? We need an App so that people can call for help. Imagine how contrite the Bailiff and Police would be if 100+ people turned up ready to help the man.
If you have bailiffs coming, know your rights. Look up what they need to have, 99% of the time they don't have it. He's got your stuff on the lawn and he probably bluffed his way in because you never checked what your rights are.
jayjay975 I believe this is a clear conflict of interest here. He is no longer acting impartially but on the instruction of a bailiff in what is a 'civil matter'. I think he just wanted an excuse (any excuse) to lift the man the moment he was at the gate, because he knew he was way in over his head and rather than stand and continue to look incompetent and perhaps rely upon the bailiff to school him on the "law" he dodged it by lifting the man
Elliott its not always as clear cut as that ill give you an example of something I watched on tv a couple separated the guy keeps the rented flat the girl gets another one. The ex bf then gets evicted months later for non payment of rent and ends up in a homeless hostel. Guess who the bailiffs come for the gf even though she had notified the landlord she was no longer staying at the property conveintly her name wasn't removed from tenancy and because the bf had no possessions the bailiffs threaten to take all the gfs property unless she paid thousands there and then. Her parents had to max out theyre credit cards to help her. These guys are no better than bullies they don't care about your circumstanstes in most cases they just want full payment theres no offer of a payment scheme.
He needs to make a list of the items he’s taking for it to actually mean it’s a controlled goods/ seized and the police officer has just broken the law by arresting him because he was well in his right to pick the TV up and he was in the wrong for touching him, the reason the police are there is to stop a breach of the peace he’s arrested the wrong person I’d get to the ipcc and make a complaint
the officer actually arrested the wrong man and is now legally liable for false arrest. bailiffs have to haver proof that they are allowed to take stuff and they have to show it upon demand from anyone. this man didn't so what he did was stealing.
That's unlawful what the bailiff has just done tell the bailiff he can't enter the house and then ask the policeman to arrest him the paper work has to be signed by a magistrate or a judge it will not be signed I guarantee that
It simply amazes me that people that are indebted to someone and legally called to account, instantly get aggressive due to their own inadequacies dealing with the debt in the first place. The bailiff is doing legally, the job he's been asked to do.
Quite often it's collusion between government and big business that force people into borrowing in the first place. Maybe hold them to account instead.
@@kethughes8266 no bailiff carries a legal court order they are produced by a business court..... which is not a court doesn't have judges and can only print pieces of paper saying warrant on them..... doesn't make them legal.......... every bailiff breaks the law. you dont have to answer a court order, your not one of those people who pay the request to pay notice........ with out understanding the objective word REQUEST which you dont have to pay all you have to do is send a letter saying thankyou for your resquest but i will not be adhering to your request thats all you have to do
To those who say "wankers should pay their bill", imagine the scenario you've unfortunately lost your job, you have ongoing obligations to commit to your previously agreed credit agreements i.e. Mobile bill & car insurance payments etc but now you have little money due to the unforeseen circumstances, just out of curiosity what would you buy/pay for the rest of the month, would you Pay council tax or feed your kids 50/50 answer 🤔just wondering
Those people who lent the money are a business and are insured for such things, if not then they pass the debt to a collection agency! Either way if you lose your job and have commitments and kids to feed then this situation is disgusting! If that bailiff came to my door, he wouldn't be walking away! Id have family and friends down at the house in 10 minutes removing his KO'd fat ass! As for the pig, he would have a fun job arresting multiple people or even trying to be bias!
Thats such bollox. Lenders are not insured for people who don't pay their debts. Obviously the debt WAS transferred to a debt collection service. Thats why the Bailiff is there.
If he owes £29k why are they even bothering with a goods removal of less than £200 at public auction..... so they can increase the "additional fees" maybe. They should just advise the debtor to file for bankruptcy and be done with the job.... but that won't be incurring "additional fees" Shouldn't be allowed to add more "additional fees" than the original debt. I've heard of £60 parking tickets turn to thousands, that can't be right.
This whole 'Poinding' malarkey was banned in Scotland years ago because it produces nothing except further debt, humiliation and money for these parasite scum. Time for England to follow suit.
ive have never had credit but still have had bailiffs round my door all had no legal warrant and used force and harassment to try and extort money out of me didn't work
We had bailiffs around for a debt belonging to someone we didn't know. We said we weren't her and never heard of her. They just replied we'd have to prove she didn't live here or they'd force entry.
Provided he has not got a signed CGA (Control of goods agreement), he has no lawful right to any of your goods and no lawful right to re-enter your home in the future. I presume this guy didn’t sign his CGA judging by there reaction ---------------------- If the bailiff makes a controlled goods agreement for the goods and then leaves the premises without both parties signing it, the goods are not controlled goods: Bannister v Hyde [1860] 2 E&E 627 or Evans v South Ribble Borough Council [1992] QB 757
For those who state it's other people's money. Actually money is created out of thin air. Just a couple of key strokes on a computer. Educate yourselves about fiat currency.
They have a warrant not even a real one but if they did they will have a warrant of controle it will have the word goods on they are allowed to take controle of goods this man has no goods because goods are items for sale not poseshions this man only has them. The police can't help them enforce it they have to be impartial and there to keep the peace
So my main question is, was this man working as a high court bailiff under oath to the crown or was he working for a debt recovery company. If he was a HCB then where was his partner, they normally work in pairs. Any HCB would have the uniform to go with the job and lots of legal paperwork, the last thing any real bailiff wants to do is remove personal property because there is so much he cannot take by law, the list is quite extensive. If this cop did not confirm that this fat person was an actual HCB he is derelict in his duty as claiming to be a HCB is a criminal offence, if he is a debt collector as I assume and he does not have the correct paperwork, (not an application for a warrant of control that is an application form that should be submitted to the courts to gain the warrant,) he has no more power than you or I and can be considered as a trespasser and removed from the property by whatever means required, asking, threatening and then inflicting physical violence upon his person. No paperwork, no warrant, no authority, no access, physical removal. As for the cop, he just got the hump from the beginning and wanted payback.
@Irish Viking By taking the TV, which was no longer his property due to the debt he had it was a breach of peace. The cop and Bailiff was just doing their jobs while nutters like you try to find a way to see them in the wrong.
And have everything in the house itemised and written down on a sale of goods receipt .Witnessed and signed/dated by a friend (with do debts!) then show one to the bailiffs and the police .The receipt clearly shows legal ownership and also that all the items are been rented back at a monthly cost of £2 . show receipts for payments
The cop left. The guy walked off with the t.v. Put everything else back in the house and lock the doors. He obviously doesnt have a list. Even the cop was asking him for it.
products you use every day such as TV kettles pots pans laptops cars etc etc etc are not goods and cannot be removed by ballifs, goods under the law means items or articles for sale, period
This is encouraging people not to honour their debts and to misuse mental health legislation. Shocking. They even use their daughter as a pawn ,pretending she's undressed.
Well if you applied your brain a bit you would see he had a home, I suppose it is an intelectual challange to realize it but if you really try even you could realise it given a few years. Dont give up, keep struggling and eventually even you will understand. Just dont give up!!
Well, all the stuff that has been removed by the house is seized under the control of goods act and at that point becomes property of the courts. So when the chap took the item from the lawn and put it in his vehicle he does commit theft at that time as the item no longer belongs to him.
The bailiff in this case was just provoking the issue more. Personally baliffs are scumbags. I feel sorry for the family involved and hope that things are better for you. Out of interest is this filmed nr Bristol?
@@DL-cb8bh lol why you mad? I'm gonna go and sing the national anthem whilst standing to attention in front of a portrait of the queen. Gotta respect the boss
Unlawful arrest breach of the peace can't be a breach of the peace on private property. He would have had to be on a the street for it to be a breach of the peace. Signed, Ex bobby.
Bandit Buddies where did you get that information from. Itt’s a civil matter the situation he’s in. The police there as referees for criminal breaches of law. Common assault, assault ABH or assault GBH. so there isn’t a warrant and even if he had a warrant it’s still not a legal arrest because he’s on he’s on private land.
This is a civil matter, not criminal. That police officer has broken his oath and should be sacked. He is not supposed to take sides in a civil matter. End of. But instead he takes orders from a civilian claiming to have more authority than he does. If this man refuses to comply with the trickery that's being forced on him then that so called "bailiff" needs to report to the court and speak to a judge and trust me, no judge will talk to a bailiff just like that. That officer is there as a peacekeeper and the bailiff laid hands on him, therfore breaking the peace and the officer supports the man who broke the peace. I urge you to find out who that officer is and take this to the county court.
I would sell smack to earn money before I ever became a bailiff I swear to god Taking the cushions off the fucking couch, no-one is gonna buy them at auction, they're worth zero, he's just destroyed the family sofa to assert dominance and prove a fucking point
How do they sleep at night, In Australia you have options eg: weekend community work, even so weekend jail stints until it’s paid, but to go into your home and pick and choose what they want then get arrested on your property for breaching the peace is just wrong.
Keep all doors and windows closed and you will be fine. There first visit must be peaceful entry and then the second visit they can use force to enter your home. NEVER OPEN DOORS AND WINDOWS TO BAILIFFS AND ONLY COMMUNICATE WITH THEM THROUGH LETTER/EMAIL.
I know six serving police officers and asked them about Bailiffs and their actions and they all admitted they were not sure about the law and went along with the Bailiffs in the presumption that all was in order. So you are on your own.
At the end of the day somebody in their home with the door locked is NOT breaching the peace however a bailiff threatening to break in causing distress surely is !! The police need to uphold the law and prevent said breach by telling the bailiff not to cause one!!!
That man truly failed to do his job, taking the words of another as gospel without using his own common sense and initiative. Please do not assume all officers are like this, it's important we respect the police as without them the country would be chaos. Clearly the man is incapable of making decisions under minimal amounts of stress. In circumstances like this, with a role as important as this, the man should lose his job. I don't like the idea of someone losing there income but you can't have an individual like this representing the embodiment of safety.
A bailiff can not just walk in... They can only enter peacefully... And police officer can infact stop them taking a car, until the owner or bailiff proves who it belongs too. I know that because a bailiff almost tried to take my motorbike bike without me knowing, for a debt that has nothing too so with me while I was asleep. Had the police man told the bailiff not to touch it my bike would have been taken away without me even knowing. And on a side note lol that police officer is in a bit of a grey zone. Only an appointed court officer can can do all this shit he is doing. If he is a private bailiff from a limited company than he does not have the authority to enter the property. Can not remove goods essential to life and can not force entery under any situation. To do so is theft and trespass
I’m just wondering if you suffer from a bad back? I only ask because it’s got to be uncomfortable constantly holding onto your ankles while the system knocks your back doors clean off their hinges.
Really? The lazy police arrested him after the chap touched him. This is how the UK police supports bailiffs. We pay loads of tax but the police never protect us when we want them. There should be a law stopping bailiffs from using the police when there isn't violence. Same old UK - sad.
