Take it from me, if you are thinking about getting the Revolver, reconsider. Mine hasn’t held up. It’s almost 3 years old, but the vinyl has shrunk and is coming unglued, and the felt strips on the bottom were falling down within the first summer in the Mississippi heat. I’m extremely disappointed in the longevity of the cover, especially considering the $1000 (give or take) that I paid for it. I feel as though I have taken care of it the best I can. It has had sun exposure for essentially 3 years straight, but then again, the bakflip on my dads 2012 Tundra while a bit faded is still going strong.
Same with mine, 2.5 years, the replacement no longer has felt, as in this video it has rubberized material in place of the felt, and it was replaced under warranty. The vinyl to aluminum/rubber looks more solid. We’ll see if this last longer.
Exact same experience. I've had two Bakflip Revolvers, my neighbor has had two, and my brother in law has had one. On every single one, after 2-3 years in the Texas sun, the vinyl starts shrinking and failing around the edges. I'm thinking going with an MX4 the next time around.
They stood by their warranty, They said they changed vinyl supplies after the first 18 months of the 4x and it should hold up better. They sent me a new one.
I like the idea of being able to see out the back with the revolver. what I don’t like about the revolver is it looks like it’s vinyl so somebody might stick a knife in it to rip it open. Yes they wouldn’t get in, but they would damage your whole top. With the backflip it’s easy to take it off when you put that big item in and it’s light enough and narrow enough to set it inside the bed. Plus when you look at the backflip, you know it’s aluminum so you know you can’t easily break in. so my choice is for the back flip.
I have revolver x4 on my truck. I would rate it 3 out of 5. It looks good and easy to operate but it leaks quite a bit around the tail gate, freezes in the winter and you can not open it, also had a headache when some sand got it the rails because it's almost impossible to clean it. Had to take it all appart. Couple good things about this cover is that it does not block rear window, it works with a Tracrack SR and thats why I bought it in a first place.
Texas folks... has anyone had th MX4 long-term..say.. 2-3 years or more? I've had two Bakflip Revolvers, my neighbor has had two, and my brother in law has had one. On every single one, after 2-3 years in the Texas sun, the vinyl starts shrinking and failing around the edges. I'm thinking going with an MX4 if they don't have that problem in Texas.
I had the Revolver on my Chevrolet High Country for a couple of years. I liked it but the revolver had to be completely closed or completely open. I sold the Revolver and purchased the MX4. The MX4 can be opened one panel at a time. So if I only need my truck bed open 1/4 or 1/2 of the way, I have the option. Really like the overall look of the X4S, however the MX4 works better for me. Great video.
Hey They are both nice covers. I like a hard cover over a material. Not sure of revolver material over aluminum could eventually weaken and loosen being rolled up constantly. Backflip appears to be more solid and strength. I checked out Diamondback and Renegade hard covers. Great for top notch security purposes but I’m not going topside for hauling purpose. This leaves BakFlip. I think they company should come out with a headache rack to match up with BakFlip being fully open but not touching rear glass. I know there’s arms on both sides but you never know. I’m probably going with the BakFlip. Excellent video tutorial.
My experience with the Revolver cover in California wasn't a good one... I had an X2 and not only did the felt/ carpet strips underneath come unglued from heat, but the vinyl covering shrank away from the sides, cracked and came unglued.
I’ve had the exact same experience. My vinyl covering hasn’t cracked but it has shrank and it is coming unglued. The felt strips that help keep you from getting pinched when rolling up the cover came off within the first summer in the Mississippi heat. When it does get icy here, you can forget about rolling it up lol. I’m extremely disappointed with it considering the $1000 price tag. It’s barely been 3 years and it’s basically toast. Meanwhile the bakflip on my dads 2012 tundra, while it does look a bit weathered, still going strong.
Great comparison. I've been set on the X4S for awhile now but someone local is selling an MX4 for half the cost of new, so I've been going back and forth. I think I'm still gonna go with the X4S. Biggest reason is being able to see out my back window with out fully open. Plus I like the cleaner look vs the folded one.
Can't go wrong either way when u got them tweekers on the prowl trying to steal your shit! Lol. I have the MX4 tonneau cover but that revolver is badass as well. I'm happy with my purchase Bakflip makes great products & so does ROUGH COUNTRY, Their new one comes in $4-500.00 cheaper than Bakflip MX4 & almost the same thing... Lil different design on the kik stands that hold it up but overall same thing. The model they made prior $649 did not fold up against the window but they just released the newer one that does $749 way better than $1200 if your on a budget. & Must of us are cause that corrupt bastard Joe Briben 🖕 lol
Great video. Very informative and the video everyone needs to watch if you are torn between the flip or the roll. If anyone cares I've decided on the roll and I will be purchasing from Real Truck as well. Thanks guys with help on the decision.
I have the X4s revolver, on 2017 Ridgeline RTL-E. I like it much better than the 22:13 tri-fold that came with the truck. These are my complaints; in the upstate New York winter, if there is any snow melt, the cover freezes in the track. I have had a number of complaints regarding the end caps just disappearing. The company has been very good about replacing these at no cost. Attempts to glue end caps have not been successful, nor has silicone applications. Last I heard, there was a new end cap being developed. Waiting to hear back.
I had a backflip for 12 years. In winter on ram 1500, only issue was rubber freezing to tailgate. Fluid film each year fixed that. I’m wondering on the revolver how does rail work in winter w freezing? Second issue with backflip was over time the insulation has absorbed water making cover very heavy. I was going to cut slots in bottom to tru to allow to dry or replace insulation. Any ideas on that?
Has anyone had a problem with the backflips getting waterlogged after a couple of years? I am getting ready to replace my 3rd backflips that I purchased thru Line-X, they have been very good about keeping to their lifetime warranty but I not very happy with the backflips type getting waterlogged. Just curious if anyone else has had this problem.
I put the Revolver on my 2022 GMC 1500 Denali, I am now having to replace it as it’s falling apart. The adhesive has failed on the slats and internal carpet in 2 years. I loved the cover operation and features, but not happy with wear and tear. Considering the MX4 or the Under Cover flip up.
I’m looking at lomax as well, but i saw a vid where the last pannel looked fairly easy to pull up with your hand, wondering if it’ll be pretty easy to pull it up enough to slip a coat hangar in. I know a thief will get in regardless, but it just looked too easy. What’s your experience with it?
@@B-Rad-Gee I just went out and looked at it and yes someone could lift it up and get in but you can only lift maybe half an inch and you need to get lucky to pull the string. I have stuff back there all the time and never had anything stollen in over 2 years. cover still works as new
So I notice you have Minnesota plates...and maybe you've covered this in one of your other vidoes...but how does that X4S do in the winter time? Heard there can be issues getting it rolled up whenever the temps drop...any insight would be appreciated because that's my only draw back from pulling the trigger on one of these today
I'd also like to know. This seemed like the best tonneau but now that I've installed mine (X4TS) I'm wondering how it will hold up and operate in the cold, ice and snow. I don't park in a garage. I'm hoping I don't have to thaw it out at the car wash when I need to roll it open in winter. Great videos but wish he waa more responsive to comments and questions.
I've had the Bak Flip on my 2017 Silverado for the past 6 years. Even though the Revolver looks great unfolded, I'd still go with the Bak Flip (again) when I decide to buy a new pickup. Thank you for sharing this video, gentlemen. It was very informative.
@@marksydor3108 Mainly because I'm a creature of habit. I've had success with my current Bak Flip so I see no reason to switch. Also, I live in the desert southwest and the sun beating down on the vinyl of the Revolver would destroy it. Both look nice but once again, the Bak Flip is my choice.
Same. I've owned the MX4 Bakflip since 2018 and would buy another or possibly the F1 by Bakflip for the higher end finish look. I have the bed camera so it still allows be to look at cargo in the bed if needed
My older trucks I always had a tool box in the back. My new Chevy came with a roll up cover that I wanted to keep and I was able to find a tool box that fits up tight to the front of the box and allows me to open the lid to gain access. The roll top is the only cover that would allow me to do this and have a 5th wheel hitch.
I’m not sure which model I have but mine has an exterior seal similar to the ones on the sides of these and it’s so irritating because it gets in the way of closing tailgate to where I have to close tailgate first then slam the cover shut that way the seal stays over the tailgate and not tuck itself inside
What would you think the best would be for up in Canada with snow, currently have a tri-fold does not give full bed access and can freeze up in the winter, I like the roll up but I would question scraping the snow off of it do you think it would damage it and or rolling it up with a bit of snow on it that won't scrape off? Thanks.
You just said it yourself you don’t know it was gonna hit the window. I did not even read the manual you are assuming.! Actually, the manual in order to adjust the video to make sure you can tell us where the bumpers really go just saying brother no harm no foul do you. Have a great day my friend.
Thanks for the vid, this was great. I am going to go to my local dealer to buy the MX4 today. Do you have a code I can give them so you can get the credit? If not, I will tell them about this channel in hopes they somehow give you your due credit. Thanks.
Bought the MX4 at my local dealership. Showed your vid hoping they could somehow give you credit in the order system but I don't think they were able to do so. Anyway, thanks for the vid and helpful info. Love the MX4 already.
I have the Bakflip for my 1500. Planning to get the Bak Revolver for my next truck. Same reason, rear window access. I found that the little arms don’t keep the tri-fold secure at highway speeds all of the time. Looks like revolver takes up less forward bed space.
@@rreye61492 I said the X2 and X4 use carpet to give you a cool spot to hold onto rolling it up and that adhesive often failed. The X4s switched to the rubber pads slatted into the aluminum.
It is the best video i have seen , very well made. Question, is one of them allow to install temporarely a truck caps without taking the rails off. I sometime go camping with my trailer and when i bring my bikes , i am looking to put them in the pickup truck bed and i may buy a Leer caps. Thanks for your very good work!
Great video guys! Thanks! I’m a newbie at all of this and your review is so helpful! I wish I had men like you in my life that could help me with the install!! Aloha from Colorado!
Correct. That’s my biggest hangup with this cover. Without it locked in place (fully closed) that aluminum channel has no way to secure the cover down if it were only partially closed, which I find pretty valuable on my current retractable.
Was in the market for a bed cover and never considered the roll up due to the fact they’re usually vinyl and velcro. I like the X4S and hope they have one for a 8ft bed!
I had a bak flip 2.0, which after 7 yrs I finally replaced with a leer canopy. It was the worst decision I ever made, it leaks like a siv. Worst pos I ever spent money on. I'm gonna take a loss and hopeful get a back flip with accessory channel for kayaks or what have you. Leer absolute Junk.
My Ford F150 was purchased 12/2021, a BAK Revolver X4 was added with the original purchase. It has a Ford emblem installed either by a licensed third-party purchaser or by BAK. ANYWAY, THE TOP VINYL PULLED AWAY FROM the glue, as did the felt underneath. The third-party vendor replaced it 7/5/24 and no more felt, it has rubber brackets in place of felt now. My question has to do with warranty, if you know. I’m being told there’s only a 1 year warranty on the replacement, but I’m also hearing that BAK has a 5-year warranty. Do you know what the warranty is? Great video, thank you!
@@brianbolton8199 it’s a five-year warranty from the original purchase date, yes, they don’t make the X4 anymore, which had the original aluminum color underneath along with fabric. from what you’re describing it sounds like the warranty replaced it with an X4s cover. When you cover rolls up, it should now be black painted aluminum like the one in this video. You’re welcome thanks for the comment!
Hello at the 20:00 minute mark could you elaborate which takes up less space in the open position? Trying to fit a bike in and the tire is close to bed on cab side thanks
I know I’m late to the party here, but any info/thoughts on the how much the mounting rails protrude into the bed from the edge of the bed rail? Looks like the revolver rails are significantly wider? Any thoughts on whether these might cause problems with cargo leaning/bumping against them? What about the handles on the revolver? Do you see these getting in the way loading/unloading the bed? I am on my 2nd MX4 and have been pretty happy with them, but considering the revolver. Thanks for the review.
@@MakeManageGrowMoneyOnly on second one because of getting new trucks. Never had any problem with the durability of the side rails. Was just curious about whether the revolver side rails protruded further and would get in the way. FWIW I ended up going with another mx4 for my new truck.
@@christopherf.2102 o ok ok that makes sense. Thanks for sharing, I'm thinking about getting one. Do you think there is enough space to be compatible with a headache rack while the mx4 is unfolded all the way up?
Well done to both of you, I watched the retractable tonneau cover video you made and now this one. We have the Bakflip MX4 on our 2020 Silverado and now we’re looking for a cover for our 2023. Didn’t like the window blocking on the MX4. Think we’re going with the new revolver, with the help of your videos. You being in Minnesota how do the covers stand up to the snow and ice? Thanks
I'm switching from an MX4 to a to an X4s. I love the MX4 so why am I switching. I tow a light weight fifth wheel and I have to fold up against the rear window in order to hitch the trailer. In all honesty that really hasn't been much of an issue for me but is a little inconvenient. I'm getting a bit "long in the tooth" and that last fold up against the rear window while standing beside the truck using one arm is getting to be something of a strain. I've had the MX4 for over 5 years and like it but I feel for my purposes it's time to try a change.
@laurenh4657 after about 2-3 months with the X4S I traded trucks . I didn't hesitate in getting another X4S. The plastic rear corner tips have a tendency to detach. Happened to me once so far. Not hard to reattach and I'm aware of the issue. I still find the X4S more convenient and suitable for my purposes.
i have the mx4 on my 2020 silverado and love it only thing is it blocks back window and blocks rearview/bed cameras. i really wanted the revolver but the side rails worried me i use my truck always hauling something and was concerned that the locking rails would be easy to damage.
Their is nothing perfect. Was going to get the revolver until I saw the delaminate occurring on the guy at works. Maybe the sentry is better. The flip style is proven.
I like the Revolver, how much of the bed width do you lose from the bed rail mounts? I tow a gooseneck and only have about 1.5 inches from my bedside when in a full 90 backing up.
The mx4 has terrible fitment for my ram power wagon with ramboxes. Installed today and theres 1/2 gap on tailgate. 3/4 inch gap on each corner because the rails arent correctly sized and 1/2 gap at the bulkhead.
Honestly I don’t like either one too many moving parts that can fail. I currently have the RETRAX ONE MX with the matte finish it works great I’ve had it on my 2015 Toyota Tacoma since May of 2016. What I don’t like about any bed cover no matter what brand is the matte finish it SUCKS, you can’t wax them or ceramic coat them if a bird shits on the cover it’s difficult to remove. Even washing the cover will leave water spots. I don’t understand why the manufacturers don’t make the covers with a smooth finish so they can be waxed like the rest of the truck.
I'm picturing using both of these during a Northen IL winter. After owning a roll up cover in the past, I know I'm going to have times when there's maybe ice or snow on the cover and I'll need to open it. The Roll Bak may present some issues in this case. I'd like to see a video with ice and 2" of snow on it and see him roll it open.
Have a bak flip on my 2015 Ram 2500 Mega Cab. It flips all the way up flat across back window which allows me to pull my 5th wheel camper. It has lasted 7 years but the rubber seals around the flip panels are falling apart.
I’d say the flip is easier to install solo. We both liked the revolver better due to how it rolls up nice. Both are excellent covers. It comes down to personal preference.
For someone who hauls dirt and mulch that gets dumped from a bobcat, is the rail system going to be a problem? I really want a tonneau cover for the other times, but I'm worried it would get damaged during loading dirt/mulch or be impossible to clean out.
As the owner of a roll up cover I can say that two of my biggest gripes are that there is no factory recommended way to have it partially open. If I need to haul something and if any part of an object sticks up higher than the bed rails then it technically needs to be FULLY open. Not a fan of that. Also, the vinyl nearest the tailgate gets creased after some use and it eventually splits and cracks open.
I am comparing these 2 again. I had the x4s on my last truck. It was way better than the x2 but I did not like the noise it makes while on the highway. Is the mx4 quieter or about the same noise?
one question which on when fully open has more clearence? I have a fuel tank with a pop up lid and need about 3 inches from inside of bed back to open, I called BAK and they said " that is propietary information we cant tell you" what the heck ?
I have one more comment/question, and I'd like to know if you guys tried this. My High Country has a power tailgate. I'm wondering if the tailgate will go up and lock in place, on its own power, with the Bak tonneau locked in place. Do you know? Or will I have to push it closed manually?
Revolver for sure does since it’s seal actually pushes the gate open. The flip has those seals on the top that could grab depending on how you adjust it. Better sealing out moisture might cost you that auto drop. A power down and up gate seems to use the motor for down vs gravity. High countries might never have these worries lol 😅
I’m so torn on these. I think I’m going Revolver as neither really support gear loading on top. I don’t want to lose 12” of bed length so roll/canister option out. I need full access & don’t want to give up 150 lbs of payload so Diamondback is out. I like that Revolver covers the bed, doesn’t block the window and I can easily remove it for full access if needed.
Hey Not sure if I ask. Which one did you choose ? I’m looking into both and others but keep coming back to these. It’s for a newer 2022 F250. I have older 2004 Dodge with original ARE top.
@@josephpuchel6497 I went Revolver. Only quirk is little end caps can pop off if you don’t press them in flat while rolling up. Overall it’s been a good solution. Simple.
@@hdfantasysports Being a Minnesotan, I’m probably the last person to ask lol. But I’d say the flip, since the revolver has a vynil canvas stuck to aluminum slats. Seems like the most likely fail point after years of use and sunlight. But we are talking beyond warranty. Any issues like that would be covered.
