Bakari Sellers and Coleman Hughes on Police Accountability | Real Time with Bill Maher (HBO) 

I'm a liberal and love this show but I got to say that the audience just clapping every time they hear an argument like, "cop bad" is really annoying and brain dead.

This was a horrible setting for a debate. Get rid of the audience immediately.

Coleman Hughes is one of the most brilliant young minds of our time, and neither of these guys let him get a full thought out. Highly recommend his podcast "Conversations with Coleman".

Coleman is just so composed, rational, and empathetic at the same time.

We're all in agreement the Clapping was annoying as hell.

The clapping has to go. Its really distracting and stupid.

Bro I swear I was laughing so hard I fell down each time the audience clapped for absolutely no reason😂😂💀

The audience shouldn't exist. They add almost nothing most of the time in a setting like this.

Coleman Hughes: I just want to see the police improve. Audience: *silence (Literally 5 seconds later) Bakari Sellers: I just want better police. Audience: *Roars

The audience is showing their ignorance and tribal nature. Whenever Sellers spoke, automatic applause. When Coleman spoke to the nuance of this issue...crickets. Sheep don't think, let alone in nuanced ways.

coleman hughes is by far the most intelligent one here

Love Coleman Hughes

Hitchens was right that audience will applaud anything.

This show would be so much better without an audience.

Coleman wipes the floor with this brother. Hughes may not elicit the same response from the peanut gallery but he seemingly appears much more effective and persuasive. The “all cops are bad and racist and are targeting blacks” trope will eventually lose its impact when things like analytics and body cams become even more mainstream.

Have Coleman on again. His voice needs to be heard

What's with that audience? Stop clapping and just listen.

The audience so annoying here

I'm frustrated when I watch this conversation. It does not feel like a genuine exchange between intelligent men, trying to arrive at solutions. @5:11 Bakari brings up the two pop culture cases of white privilege/soft treatment by police, Dylan Roof and Kyle Rittenhouse. Coleman reminds him that these are flashy headline cases, not sociological arguments. "Those are not representative cases", he says ... Bakari replies "but did they not happen?" ?? ... The crowd cheers. ??? That is not an acceptable answer in a SERIOUS conversation about the complex racial and socio-political factors at play during violent police encounters, in the US. For some reason, Bakari must insist that the problem of policing in America is not just a problem of policing ... it's a problem that is unique and particular and targeted to harm the black community, in a special way. @3:46 Coleman brings up one of the thousands of white victims of police violence. He did so to show the diversity and range of the cruelty of America's policing history. He doesn't negate race as an important factor, but says it's clearly deeper than race. Coleman's point is not only reasonable, it's supported by the data. It also means that we can include brothers and sisters of all races to the table to discuss, and protest and organize a better way of policing and protecting citizens. It also means we can talk broadly about the issues and pathologies that plague communities that are deprived of resources. These communities exist around the country and the beleaguered, neglected populations are not exclusively black. We can admit all of this, and still aim restructure our society in a justice minded, meaningful way. It's stunning that Bakari won't take the opportunity to recognize these truths, agree on their common ground, broaden the discussion, and still be an advocate for all the same ideals.

Bill's audience are like clapping seals. Worse than the audience on the view. Smh.

An actual healthy conversation and debate on an important issue, more of this please

This clapping after every sentence is incredibly annoying lol. Let them talk.

Coleman Hughes!!! A shining hope for the future of the country. I've learned so much from him in subject matter as well as maintaining composure and humility when exchanging ideas with people with different views.

Coleman Hughes was so calm in the way he just shut that other guy down. He be like "Bro, I can use anecdotes too." Bakari is then forced to give his thesis without them, which then makes his thesis sound really weak at least to me, but apparently not to the audience

Coleman Hughes should get more airtime outside of his podcast. His intellect and ability to present facts and ideas need to be heard by many.

Bill needs to fix his audience, seriously. I like what he says, the guests are having great debates, but all those claps are just disturbing the whole thing

Coleman Hughes has more intelligence in his little finger than Bakari Sellers could ever dream of.

Shoutsout to Coleman Hughes for always being correct and on point, this other guy is an absolute fool with no understanding of the topic looking only to pull at the emotional strings of the mentally weak

The silence of the audience whenever Coleman speaks is hilarious. It’s like a stunned silence...they can’t boo him, not really knowing his political affiliation, and the fact he’s black lol. It’s sad that this is probably the first time ever hearing that perspective.

This had the potential of a great discussion if the trained seals weren’t present clopping.

Dead silence whenever Coleman speaks. People don't want thoughtful, complex, accurate worldviews. They want a simple *story.*

I'm glad to see Coleman Hughes getting more exposure. That man is gonna become a lot more famous in the near future.

I wanna see the next presidential debates show about the same level of respect, honor, intelligence, wittiness, passion for the topic at hand and just plain common decency as these two folks showed here... would that be to much to ask? 🤔 Great arguments and great convo.

The crowd clapping really undermines this conversation.

I've been loving me some Coleman Hughes lately.

I'm happy to see Coleman getting some spotlight. I've been following him for a while.

Kudos to Maher for having this discussion. But wish Coleman was interviewed alone and got more time to speak. His nuanced perspective is far more interesting to hear than the same simplistic narratives that get all the airtime.

Coleman could hardly speak. He had a lot to say here and didn’t get his time.

Hilarious that Coleman made a statement about having better policing whatever that means for the budget ( no applause) Bakari literally says the exact same thing worded differently (big applause) 😂🙄😂

I’m a Minority Puerto Rican Bernie Sanders democratic socialist and I also follow Coleman Hughes on RU-vid and find him to be a refreshing young Voice of reason that should be heard that not going to give people Woke talking points and gives real statistics to backup what he says

What we need is the lack of a live audience.

That audience clapping is a problem.

Coleman was cold 🥶 this whole show and well spoken

Coleman Hughes is brilliant! Thanks for having someone this thoughtful and clever, and most importantly rational over emotional on your show! Oh yeah, and I fully support all arguments about not the most clever audience - sounded like a cheap sitcom

The ppl clapping for every argument by both guys was kinda annoying

Bill stop interrupting Coleman. Killing me just when he's about to make a good point. driving me nuts

This debate was like watching 2 people in a boat headed towards a waterfall. Sellers was complaining about a small leak in the hull, and Coleman Hughes was there saying, "Ya, that's an issue, but we're heading towards a waterfall!"

Coleman Hughes is just way more nuanced and solution based

maybe I just got used to the lack of applause after every single line, but shit that got annoying

Coleman Hughes is sensible and debates with logic. It seems that's what we lack from both sides. Common sense and logic.

They always reveal themselves in the end... they can't help themselves... "we need to tear it down". The only honest words that came out of sellers mouth that entire video.

Coleman Hughes is a national treasure.

Coleman Hughes is my new favorite person. Only speaking the truth.

the audience is annoying and doesn't sound genuine.

Sellers, 36 (lawyer/politician) sounds like an unhinged rabble-rousing activist Hughes, 26 (student/writer) sounds like a thoughtful balanced unbiased analyst. Time to adjust our idea of role models, people.

Bill, can you please implement a policy of having the audience hold their applause until the end? --From everyone watching.

Please stop clapping from happening in these types of discussion, it really undermines each point when the person speaking gets drowned out.

I wish Bill would go back home.........the audience literally clapping at everything is ridiculous You don't need to clap everytime you agree

Everybody should spend a week with the police so they see what they have to go through. They’ll get the shock of their lives.

There is an “Applause” sign that lights up for the audience in that room. My mom went to one of the shows and said they were told when to clap. So if anything, this applause is directed by the producers.

I’m so happy to see Coleman getting the recognition he deserves, great nuanced perspective.

This is why I love Maher. He's not afraid to question everything.

Props to Coleman Hughes for staying calm, composed, sticking to the points and being respectful in that he didn't talk over Bakari.

The audience applauds at every emotional appeal to their biases, but when Coleman makes cogent statements that challenge their biases, they don’t applaud. There is only one moment of partial applause when when he mentions that Kenneth Walker thought the cops were intruders. The audience is so willing to believe that cops are evil.

I'm glad that the people in this comment section, for the most part, have more sense then this ridiculous audience

Thank you Bill for having this conversation on your show!!!! I am sooooo proud of you Coleman !!!!!

Both Sellers and Hughes make good and valid points. But what seems to be missing from both talking points is the power of police unions and their relationships w/ the cities and towns they "protect and serve". Much of police conduct (and in some cases a lack thereof) is usually approved by a mutual agreement between city councils and police unions. In order for there to be any real reform qualified immunity must end, and city council members need to re-negotiate the terms/conditions of the agreement they enter in w/ their police forces. Additionally, we must end the militarization of police forces all around the country, end the disastrous "war on drugs", and take away some of the funding from police forces (or re-allocate them for better training programs), and ALL major cities need to have some form of watchdog/police accountability groups.

People who don't understand why you might "empty" a clip on a suspect have no business commenting how to improve policing.

Notice that Coleman actually wanted to talk about solutions and discuss policy. Very levelheaded and calm. Any time he brought up a point it was ignored. Never expanded upon or even critiqued. Yet he would address any point brought up by Bakari but could barely get a word in. Bakari was full of emotion and anecdotal evidence, which says a lot considering he works for CNN. The fact that he disagrees with the goal of colorblindness, even disagreeing with Bill, is telling. He believes the most important thing about someone is the color of their skin. Bill needs to STFU when he has guests on with opposing views and go into moderator mode. He spoke way more than Coleman. What’s the point of having a guest on if you speak more than them? His segments when it’s just him are fine and should be the place to get out all his talking points for the night. When it’s him and a guest, I say keep it 50/50 at the very least. The more he can let his guests talk, with sprinkles of him, the better. The audience is just terrible. When there is a back and forth between opposing guests, and the producers know this will happen, there needs to be a signal to keep the audience quiet.

Nothing is more exhausting than someone who sees racism in everything.

Coleman is such an amazing intellect who sticks to principle not ideology - Sellers just ignored his point about the high number of black murders left unsolved as an 'inconvenient truth'.

Drowning out Coleman at every turn. Sellers should listen to him. Coleman is a lot smarter and more honest.

Why was his response to “cherry picking” is “didn’t it happen”? He knows he is smarter than that. Such an irresponsible response

I don't think Mr. Sellers has the facts correct on the cases he is talking about.

Coleman we need you man

Wow .. Coleman Hughes was impressive

the audience does not applaud at all when tragedies are put into perspective but when woke slogans are presented

“You’re cherry-picking examples” “Are you saying those things didn’t happen?!” *audience applauds 🤦🏼‍♂️

Bakari Sellers does a fantastic job presenting the twitter argument against police brutality. Coleman Hughes does an even better job presenting stats to counter Sellers' conjecture.

I am glad I am not the only black person who does not jump to racism in everything that happens

Coleman Hughes sounding like the black Sam Harris almost. And i mean that in a good way lol

bakari just says what people like to hear he is like a politician

This is a perfect example of cognitive dissonance. Coleman began to clearly refute racial theories about the police, and everytime bill just interrupted. The last time Coleman cornered the other guy on cherry picking, he backpedaled to "we just need accountability", but at the end reinserted the race argument with no evidence. Truly sad and hard to watch.

It wasn’t a no knock, she wasn’t asleep, they didn’t fire first and the list goes on

The audience was clapping for themselves. Very strange behavior.

Need to get rid of the audience for good. Does this show have a “clap at every sentence” sign?

5:38 Hughes: “You’re cherry-picking examples.” Sellers: “Did they not happen?” There’s only one of two explanations here for Seller’s response. Either he doesn’t understand the difference between relying on anecdotes versus data when analyzing a social phenomenon, which makes him uneducated enough to not qualify for an opinion on that table, or he knows better but he’s willing to lie, which also disqualified him from a seat at the table. Which is it?

If chokeholds are not used, what other non-lethal measures are to be employed when interacting with confrontational individuals?

All police need body cams n they must b turned ON at all times! PERIOD

When you realize the Joe Rogan Experience is the true place to host a real conversation #stopclapping #justlisten

"You cannot tell me..." That's exactly the problem

There's no point trying to have an actual discussion in front of audiences like this.

The live public is horrible. Wasn't missing it at all.

Coleman Hughes is a rare, brave and valuable voice in America.

Thankfully Colman brought some sense to this discussion.

He said it, lack of accountability toward the criminals also adds to the problem.

Audience Woke as Hell

Coleman Hughes with the look on his face "I can't belive this idiot"

Yes. After school centers and mental health providers. That’ll do it. Look: I’m a Cop. I know, from experience, there isn’t a mental health provider in the world who will come to one of my calls and talk to the subject prior to me either detaining or searching them. Period.

Came for Coleman, stayed for Coleman.