He speaks upon that in his podcasts. That's why he mentioned how he socializes while he is working out and they won't even speak. I used to do that with a friend in college and it was great; lol, I'm just glad that other people do that because I used to think something was weird with me. Lol.
I'm 17 too and am addicted to the rock climbing grind. For a while I was feeling isolated but then I began inviting people to train with me. I believe that the best option is to spread the grind because it improves people's lives and builds a community that holds each other accountable. Surround yourself with people who care about themselves and GENUINELY want you to succeed.
Piss off loser. You think I'd hesitate to allow an aggressive dominant dog or two to just bite, attack and maul you? Go ahead. Be a dumbass antagonistic bully who honestly believes that you are better than other people. You are not. Get over your own ego. Stop being mean.
Peter Hayssen that’s how I felt about bodybuilding for the longest time, then I started raving and lost the passion I had for it. I still workout a lot and consistently, but the passion isn’t there anymore for it though I want to regain it
One of the harshest lessons in life is to balance your work, family, social, health, finances, etc.. One aspect can't live without the others - trust me I know from experience.
If u dont get out socially and have fun and just loosen up a little bit, u will absolutely regret that later in life. Like jocko says it will help u in your training too. I'm no expert like Jocko but u have to break away from the regimen sometimes and hang out. That's crazy for a 17 yr old, props to him bc I was a a reckless fool when I was 17 lol
This really hits home for me. I'm a 21 year old Male I do cross fit 5 to 6 days a week. I train with friends but it's literally the only time we get together now a days is when we're training. We do 2 workouts some times 3 every session. At first I was training my ass off and seeing amazing gains with strength and cardio. But I'm starting to feel burnt out. I feel like the reason I started was because I was low key depressed and was just trying to get out of the hole I'm In and I feel like if I got in amazing shape my life would just turn around. Well now here I am and I'm in pretty good shape but I feel like my depression is getting stronger everyday. I think it's because I had my goals set in a short term mindset. Also the "social" part of the discussion was really hitting home because I see my Friends everyday when we workout but they don't always feel like friends. I feel like everyone is there for themselves. But that could also be me just overthinking it. And it doesn't help that I've been single for years now and now that I'm in shape I've been talking to girls and have been getting rejected. And I don't take rejection very well and that fuels my depression which in turn effects my performance when training cross fit. I've always been known as a handsome guy with a great body but I think my personality is just dull to people. But it's just who I am. Also doesn't help that I'm unemployed and living with my parents still. I'm in fire fighting school but our school has been delayed for weeks now because of the corona virus. I'm just stuck at this point in my life and it is very frustrating but I'm trying to stay positive...sorry for my whole life story lol I just feel like I needed to vent to the Internet for once lol
How did you gain good amount of strenght with crossfit with training almost everyday? I'm thinking about signing up for Crossfit month of training, but in the past I was just exhausted from the cardio stuff all the time. With strenght comes muscles and size,which is also my goal,cause I am skinny with Belly fat all my adult life. 22 y.o, university student, Central Europe.
Check out Charisma on Command channel..as for girls, e.g. Girls Chase has a lot of great advice. It's funny how similar all human endeavors essentially are - you train, you analyze, you improve. Working out, social skills, girls.. anything can be learned with good advices, attitude, and the grind:)
failure is the step before success. being rejected is part of the process. easier for me to say but you gotta eat the failures, learn from them, and push forward with your gained knowledge.
I loved the question. I’m 17 from UK and I’m super driven, and I have isolated myself from people who aren’t good for me. Who aren’t as driven as I am. I think that helps me. I have like 3 good friends, a very supportive family and I feel amazing. I miss out on parties, miss out on girls, but that’s ok. I think self awareness is the key. If you feel lonely, go do more stuff with people. If you feel perfectly fine rejecting invitations to stay in your zone and work, stay and work.
Big touch on that communication and social aspect. The amount of military personnel and hardcore fight mentality guys I've met that only care about that realm and end up in terrible situations because they can't speak to human beings that have nothing to do with their core topics is upsetting.
@jocko I am a former Airman and recently just discovered your podcast and have been listening to it to and from my hour long commute to work. I just want to first say thank you for your service and also want to say thank you for this podcast. It gets my head in the game every morning to help me be the best me for myself and coworkers and allows me to be the best me for myself and my family every evening on my way home. I love the episode where you went through Col. Hackworths Q&A's about Vietnam (my father a former Vietnam vet 1st Battalion 5th infantry)! With his responses and you breaking down his answers, it gave me a better understanding on that War. Keep charging Jocko and you as well Echo
Wisdom. Truth. I was similar in HS with basketball - lonely & isolated. It was in 1990s; but this memory still stays with me. Prior to start of practice when everyone is just shooting-I’m at one end. All 23 other Varsity & JV players at the other end. I remember it feeling so wrong, knowing they likely made so many degrading remarks about me as I was so disliked-a combination of pride & humiliation at the same time. I would not go to that end; I wasn’t “popular” & had trouble making friends: COMMUNICATION & SOCIAL SKILLS. What stands with me is how I remember just getting into rhythm; making shot after shot. I remember the sound of the ball just brushing through the net touching no rim. I was first team-but I hadn’t been able to practice shooting like that with our practice schedule. I remembered how good I was again. When the team captains yelled at me with practice to officially start-I had a choice: say something or just fall into line. I did the latter. To this day I think of that as an example of when to stand up for self and principles. I didn’t. It wasn’t till my father stepped in with that it happened-and it needed to happen. But how good I was didn’t matter if I held no respect.
I raced bicycles for years. The people I trained and raced with were my social crew as well. We shared time on and off the bike. They were magical days.
I’m a biology student. In my first year I used to smoke weed almost every evening: wake up - school - gymtime - study - weed. Every day. I got A grades and it all seemed to go effortlessly, especially in the bodybuilding area. Now, somewhere in my second year I decided to maximize my capabilities and one part of that was quitting weed. At least, I thought so. I planned a six month break of weed use (and alcohol too btw) that I quite effortlessly went through. More clarity. Grades were the same. But at the same time, school started to demand more and more of me and if I do something I want to do it 100%. So giving 100% for school and 100% for fitness just wasn’t realistic anymore (and because I ofcourse constantly failed to achieve 100% in both areas, my self-esteem dropped). I already smoked weed once after the 6 month break which made me remember why I quit. Small amount of time passed and I smoked again. For 4 days. A straight smoking binge into the underworld. And quite surprisingly, it had some profound effects (and by this time my motivation for school also dropped and I couldn’t go to the gym anymore due to school’s demands). I felt.. rejuvinated a few days after my smoking binge. Everything had a new freshness to it. And I instinctively knew why: I was deloaded of stress and every tension that had accumulated due to school stress. Since then I just smoke weed every three weeks or so, to deload, and without feeling bad. I don’t even perform on my A level again in the gym, but that doesn’t matter. I’m feel more balanced out because of these allowed breaks. Chaos and order y’know.
When I was first learning to draw seriously I would draw like 5-15 hours a day everyday. I would do sessions of learning that were way too long and wasn't improving that much. When I broke up my learning sessions into intense 30 minutes with short breaks and started taking days off from learning I actually learnt much quicker. It's counter intuitive but taking breaks and resting actually makes you grow and improve faster.
So good sir. 21 years old and needed this. Definitely can see the proclivity for burnout. I almost have my degree and am heading into military. As one told me nobody likes to eat "butter bars" or swallow eggs and flour, but we all love cake. Balance goes a long way and this is something I needed. Thank you.
Social life is important especially when young you can make time for both especially at 17 I’m older as train with most of my free time because I enjoy wouldn’t be doing anything else but I also put those talent points into personality when I was younger so the fact you are asking about it means ya you should go out
Per my physical therapist: 36 hours between exercise of same muscle groups so the muscles have time to heal and the tendons have time to contract. (Can lift every day, just not same muscle groups) 39 seconds minimum between sets so the muscles restore their energy capacity. (Unfortunately some people take the 39 second minimum to mean they can occupy the equipment for 20 minutes)
I understand the drive to hit that "10,000" hour standard, but its true...balance is key. Plus 100 for the armory display by echo, brandishing those guns AND Jocko for the stiletto pointer. 🤘🏼
@@a.eddynangia7101 Regardless, earned, not given without permission. I have my own. They tell a story. It starts and ends with discipline, regardless of how they were earned! Much respect.
Also, for many people, saying "Wanna role?" and calling it your "social interaction with other people" time, isn't going to be enough. Maybe coordinate an afternoon BBQ with a couple of your training partners to get a little deeper connection and more conversation.
Also, if I could add.. Surround yourself with others trying to achieve the same thing, or similar things.. even generally speaking. You can still go at that pace and not be lonely..
Oh. And here i am thinking that working out and chasing dreams will naturally make you isolated. And then when i compare myself with my peers who are more social i feel bad. I think balance is needed and it's better if you are lonely in order to stay motivated. I do have to admit that i have felt suicidal at times when i thought my dreams are so far away and i have no one to share my pain and trouble with. I'm a loner now and i crave to be in a relationship at times too. Looks like i should make friendships a habit and go meet people deliberately.
I have been reading (and using) the I Ching for the last few months. Echo's recounting of a life experience that demonstrated an example of the process of Yin and Yang in building and creating a result, is something i need constant reminding of. I need constant cajoleing about the need to submit myself to nature and her ways, or at least her laws. The old masters, to name a few: Epictetus, Marcus Aurelius, urged living by nature's laws but it has never been clear to me how to properly do this. But the I Ching is helping as is The Art of War.
I train like hell between biking, running and lifting, and school and other things make it so I can barely get the time to even see my girlfriend, I've learned that the best way to be both social and train is to find people to train with.
I'm having trouble in this area. I think if you don't balance and just focus too much on the grind it can be depressing and that will actually detract from your ability to grind effectively. Of course there are some beasts who can just grind on and on no problem. Wish I was one of them lol.
Jocko says there is room for variation, everyone needs different things. Like his example where some people need 4 hours sleep, some people need 8 hours. I don't think Jocko wants to detract from anybody's happiness with his principles, but be careful not to use your happiness as an excuse to not get after it! Peter Hayssen below has a GREAT answer to this, too
Efficiency. I agree. But you need to establish balance. I should have responded earlier because I agreed with you when I listened, then I watched this! There is more then BJJ (or any other activity that you're passionate about) but it can't consume you at the expense of everything else! Get after it, but keep everything in balance!
Get JOCKOS field manual, it’s got all the secrets of the life of “Getting After It”...see if you can also help with the kids class and ask professor other things you can volunteer like cleaning mats or bathroom duty.
Echo makes a compelling argument. I work to provide for my wife and kids. Does that mean I should spend all my time at work? If that was the case I would be neglecting the other needs of my family. A child needs time with their father and a wife needs time with her husband. So I try to restrict work to fifty four hours. I get the over time but still have the weekends to be a father and husband.
I have immense respect for Jocko and am learning tons from him. But I will say this out of humility to others who taught me along the way. Not sleeping properly or enough _is_ dumb, just like too many reps instead of integrating/spreading shorter sets into your day. Occasional high-volume exercise is fine, but it's better to grease the groove and never train too close to fatigue. You can do more with less. Spread it out. Focus on technique, not on burn-out. Think in terms of years and decades in how you work things into your hours and days. Everyone has blind-spots. Give Jocko another 10-15 years without altering his regiment and he'll wear down prematurely and won't have the old-age vigour of Pavel Tsatsouline who trains/lives for the long haul. All the jiujitsu is a good anchor, but I'm interested in sustaining asymmetrical training over years and that's when you need to consult people who are still thriving in their old age.
Have a look at Tsatsouline's books, StrengthFirst, kettlebell and pre-WW2 training techniques. Pavel sums things up pretty nicely in his interview with Rogan: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Rm0GNWSKzYs.html
Sometimes life has to be vague, if life tells you directly what life wants then what's the point of leaning about life if life just tells you shit directly. Plus it also counts on the intention the person telling and receiving the information. Idk if that makes sense lmao, I might just be confusing my self.
Jocko do you credit all of your knowledge and motivation to being in the SEAL teams or something else? I have trouble staying motivated to doing things like school (homeschooled) and working out etc. and I’m just curious as to what motivates you and gives you the discipline to continue. Sorry if you’ve already answered this but I haven’t found anything on it in the short time I’ve looked.
Watch his Podcasts with Jordan B. Peterson. I think there are three out there currently as I am writing this comment. One thing to understand is that this Universe has some universal laws that applies to everybody. There are multiple ways to accumulate the same knowledge/experience and for some things there is one specific way. In Podcasts with Jordan Peterson, Jocko realizes that lessons he has learned as a seal is the same lessons Jordan has learned as an academian. Meanwhile we have the opportunity to learn from both of these guys without really doing "the heavy lifting" as we can take the lessons and sources they give us and apply directly in what we are doing in our life. Many (also Jocko) have said that motivation is BS, it get's nothing done, it just get's you going. What you need to find is your drive, your why. Simon Sinek, I think, has a work on this matter called "Start with Why". Don't ask what you want to be in this life, but what do you want to do? What do you want to create? Also Jocko's book "Discipline equals freedom" would give you the answers you seek as it has his thought patterns written in it. Beautiful work. As I understand it, it also has much to do with what Jordan Peterson explains from psychological point of view - make a decision and act upon it.
Jocko is definitely a special person. Seal team probably helped him with that but that’s not it. Because there are other seals who are lazy and undisciplined like any other civilian. Don’t chase motivation. It’s here one day and gone the next. Be disciplined. Read his book discipline equals freedom or better listen to it on Spotify. I guarantee you will start getting your shit together. Guarantee. ;)
And if you *are* spending lots of time on FB? Thats like chewing ice due to to vitamin deficiency. Call a friend and have some mindful focused social time.
