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Yes, we actually have 5 hay fields for a total of about 28 acres but today I'll be baling hay at the neighbors. Don't forget to check out Off The Husk podcast!
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Zach Johnson, the “Millennial Farmer” is a 5th-generation farmer who’s spent his life growing, working, and learning on his family’s farm. His wit and dry sense of humor appeal to children and adults alike. A product of the millennial generation, his appreciation of new technology blends with his old-fashioned work ethic, and he offers a unique ability to deliver his message in a way that resonates with lifelong farmers as well as those with no knowledge of agriculture.
With growing consumer awareness about where their food comes from, Zach has identified the need for an independent voice from the front lines of agriculture. Zach actively promotes agriculture by sharing his day-to-day experiences in the agriculture world while providing farmer-to-farmer education to help facilitate a collaborative conversation between farmers and the public.
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@thebillbaker4793
@thebillbaker4793 3 года назад
Hello my friend, it is great to see young men With the love of the land and our country. With all The things that’s happen to our cities and all the crap that’s going on “this is wonderful”. Thank you ever so much for showing us your world. Stay thirsty my friend.
@MillennialFarmer
@MillennialFarmer 3 года назад
Thank you Bill!!
@MillennialFarmer
@MillennialFarmer 3 года назад
@Doc Savage I did a couple videos on the history of our farm with my father. You should check those out. Nothing has been inherited for my Dad or myself. I can't say how things work on Ryan's farm, as he can speak to that if he wants to. Keep in mind, most farmers are born into the industry in some way or another. I don't look at that as a negative thing. In most situations, it's opportunity that gets inherited, not assets.
@fpoasec
@fpoasec 3 года назад
@@MillennialFarmer "In most situations, it's opportunity that gets inherited, not assets." That needed restating. #WordsOfWisdom #FamilyFarm
@gavinporter9022
@gavinporter9022 3 года назад
@@MillennialFarmer I love seeing all the friendly faces! You guys all sound like you went to school together or something!
@Hutch-pn1wq
@Hutch-pn1wq 3 года назад
Me- Finishes baling hay and goes in the house then proceeds to watch someone else baling hay.
@johnditch6357
@johnditch6357 3 года назад
it's one of those things you do. I miss grandpas farm a lot.
@tobiascurtis4302
@tobiascurtis4302 3 года назад
I’m bailing tomorrow
@johnditch6357
@johnditch6357 3 года назад
@@tobiascurtis4302 yah gotta do what you can when you can, hope the wether behaves.
@tobiascurtis4302
@tobiascurtis4302 3 года назад
John Ditch worst thing is weather forecast show rain tomorrow aswell😭😭
@johnditch6357
@johnditch6357 3 года назад
@@tobiascurtis4302 there is a good chance they are wrong, a lil rain not too bad a lot will take days to dry. i learned 'first hand 'about damp hay and spontaneous combustion on Grand Pa's farm too.
@fredj6278
@fredj6278 3 года назад
Ryans face shows it all. Very excited you came to visit his farm.
@jordanroberts1519
@jordanroberts1519 3 года назад
Thank you, Zach. When I was growing up, I remember riding in my grandpas JD4440 baling round bales in the summer then riding in the feed truck and feeding them in the winter. He is 83 now and we just lost our grandma at the end of May, and I also remember her bringing Snickers and caffeine free Diet Pepsi (her choice) for snacks. Summer hay cutting, although I probably didn't care for it then, means so much to me now. It took me back. Thank you, Zach.
@MillennialFarmer
@MillennialFarmer 3 года назад
Sorry to hear about your Grandma, Jordan. Glad we could stir up some memories.
@popquizzz
@popquizzz 3 года назад
My first year out of the USAF I worked on a farm in Oregon back in mid 80's. Back then it was square bales that were made and you had to throw them up onto the wagon to the stacker. By the end of the summer my arms and chest were well pumped. Nothing like good hard work to set a boomer up for life.
@ianmctaggart7744
@ianmctaggart7744 2 года назад
Thank you for your service!
@RJ-nh9hw
@RJ-nh9hw 3 года назад
Give that "good looking kid" a regular job on your channel...great presence, good vocabulary and he's smart!
@PrairieSunsetRanch
@PrairieSunsetRanch 3 года назад
I love seeing Seed farmers making HAY! Well enough watching videos I gotta head out and make some hay! Another great video & cheers 🍻 from Prairie Sunset Ranch ☀️
@lilredcummins
@lilredcummins 3 года назад
It's so nice to see another young man that is passionate and knowledgeable about the family farm. Ryan even handled the millennial-first-time-finger-snap professionally! Thanks Zach for showing us something a little different. Good to see all the different skills and jobs that farmers do.
@markglasier7424
@markglasier7424 3 года назад
Bring the kid back for another video. He’s a natural. Loved seeing the ‘old iron’ too.
@willetthomas775
@willetthomas775 3 года назад
Ryan's a real plus & sure knows his stuff. Future farming is in great shape.
@FARMERMINN
@FARMERMINN 3 года назад
As a farmer, resident, and alumni of UMC, I love seeing the UM Crookston t-shirt in the first 5 minutes. Ryan is the best!!!!
@tamiller84
@tamiller84 3 года назад
Holy Crap! What a great video. Thanks for all the videos and the pod casts.
@What-wq4xy
@What-wq4xy 3 года назад
The finger snap never gets old. I always get a little laugh.
@blackeagle0778
@blackeagle0778 3 года назад
Ryan seems like a pretty good guy, he seems comfortable in front of a camera.
@MillennialFarmer
@MillennialFarmer 3 года назад
He's a great guy! It's always nice to get someone who's comfortable on camera like him
@integratirecarrotriver4026
@integratirecarrotriver4026 3 года назад
@@MillennialFarmer The guest fingersnap was epic!! Well done
@robertclarke3764
@robertclarke3764 3 года назад
Hi guys like the hay talk I do hay and grain and beef cows in Breton Alberta wondering where can I get a catalog to order them and r they available in Canada
@Tomczyk13
@Tomczyk13 3 года назад
He needs his own channel.
@james36o9
@james36o9 3 года назад
Yeah definately, he should have his own channel, would love to see the life of a cattle farmer too!
@AllanSitte
@AllanSitte 3 года назад
I have not bailed hay in 40 years. But watching this video, my memories of the smell of fresh dried hay came back to me as if I were there in the field with you. A small part of me misses those simpler days. A larger part of me does not miss loading hay into the barn (we had small square bails). Thank you for this. Excellent content as usual.
@ElsinoreRacer
@ElsinoreRacer 3 года назад
Amen. We (well, I) tossed ours up into the loft to be stacked over the animal stalls and later kicked down through the ceiling. When I got down to the last row on the trailer I was having to toss them 3 ft over my head. It was nice blowing fiber boogers for the next week too. In all honesty it was miserable work....... but, yeah.... had it's appeal.
@amybly6191
@amybly6191 3 года назад
I agree
@gregbarthol5381
@gregbarthol5381 3 года назад
Agree that Ryan is a natural teacher, well educated and articulate!!
@briandungan515
@briandungan515 3 года назад
After your mini sprint to catch the baler I found myself saying "hey, you ok?"
@bigjim5723
@bigjim5723 3 года назад
i was laughing as i said to him-u ok. ha!
@scottm344
@scottm344 3 года назад
As busy as this guy has become he still takes the time to show different sides of farming. Come on everyone lets show our support for this channel. Spread the word and share the vid. As always another great vid. Stay safe everyone
@stanhensley3082
@stanhensley3082 3 года назад
There, that what makes farming so great!! Neighbors working together. And yes to all you that make us videos, you can see it’s work. Thanks!!
@marty0715yt
@marty0715yt 3 года назад
Men of Earth. Keep this Country STRONG!!!! Thanks for visiting them.
@virgie704
@virgie704 3 года назад
Thank God for these dedicated farmers!
@lucasaccount573
@lucasaccount573 3 года назад
Zack is so confused on having his hands on the wheel. “WHERES MY AUTOSTEER?”
@wendystewart1671
@wendystewart1671 3 года назад
Lol
@SchultzModding
@SchultzModding 3 года назад
Always good to see people learning teaching and enjoying farming. Especially like the young kid in the video!
@roadhammer5935
@roadhammer5935 3 года назад
Thank you for letting others tell there stories it is a honor just to hear how far America has come along🇺🇸
@xSolarii
@xSolarii 3 года назад
Ryan needs his own channel!! He is SO knowledgeable. Would definitely watch 10/10
@whackyman1000
@whackyman1000 3 года назад
Now to try bailing hay on hillsides and angle the bailer so the bale doesn't roll down the hill
@dianajean4837
@dianajean4837 3 года назад
Love how farmers are always so proud of their equipment and it's heritage.
@timanderson8907
@timanderson8907 3 года назад
Best part was seeing a young man that still wants to farm and he must of went to Crookston to school. My old neighboring town.
@davidsims7936
@davidsims7936 3 года назад
My father had a 4020, what a great tractor, incredible power.
@sparkythebuilder
@sparkythebuilder 3 года назад
Ryan is pretty awesome! He's a natural! You need to do a tour of their farm and cows!
@alanletterman
@alanletterman 3 года назад
Did lots of baling when I was a teenager. Dad ran the baler. I got the job of stacking the bales on the wagon. Never could figure out why the wagon is always downwind of the baler no matter which direction you are travelling in the field.
@johnditch6357
@johnditch6357 3 года назад
and grand dad had an extended bed truck from the 20's or 30's sometimes two or three had to ride on the front bumper or fenders to keep front wheels close to the ground.
@riverrat1149
@riverrat1149 3 года назад
Only job I hated growing up was bucking alfalfa and hay.
@johnditch6357
@johnditch6357 3 года назад
@@riverrat1149 yeah now i'm even allergic to neighbors mowing lawns.
@Fireball9394
@Fireball9394 3 года назад
Always loved it when we baled straw, After all those heavy bales of hay, nice little break!! lol
@gregorycross612
@gregorycross612 3 года назад
That is camp fire logic! Can't stay up wind of the smoke. .....and when stacking in the barn, the breeze goes away.
@gunnerc3487
@gunnerc3487 3 года назад
Hey Millennial Farmer I just wanted to thank you for talking and shacking my dads (Marks) hand you made his week and I got a phone call while I was at work right after you got done talking with him he was so happy.
@benpattinson1
@benpattinson1 3 года назад
Nice to see the older kit getting used. The chap (Ryan) you were working with seems a really nice bloke as well. Nice bloke. Do more with him.
@dustinwillis113
@dustinwillis113 3 года назад
Never thought I'd see the day. Crop farmer turned rancher. Just kidding. That's what I love about ag is it don't matter if you have 100 acres or 1000 acres u can do something 50 years and still learn every day
@andyb9767
@andyb9767 3 года назад
Great bunch of guys
@straightpipeacres6365
@straightpipeacres6365 3 года назад
You better hope you don't get demonitized with Off The Husk playing in the background. Lmao 🤣
@billireland2029
@billireland2029 3 года назад
Some of my favorite childhood memories......bailing hay for everyone in the township all summer. Made it easier to tolerate the 2-a-day football practices in August!!
@micahdafarmer5573
@micahdafarmer5573 3 года назад
Never thought I would see you in a hay field
@matt_waddy
@matt_waddy 3 года назад
He's an absolute rockstar! We need MORE of him!!
@richardstewart2680
@richardstewart2680 3 года назад
It's really great to see young kids young adults out there working in the farm you doing absolutely fabulous job I've been watching you now since you came on I get my fix watching you work on the farm you work very very hard😁😁😰👍👍🙏
@gdboys542
@gdboys542 3 года назад
You are what inspired me to want to become a farmer in the future. Thank you
@koreylass9529
@koreylass9529 3 года назад
Awesome video. I grew up on a farm and have a lot of memories making hay in the Sabin MN area with a 3010, 3020, 4010, and 4430. Loved working with that old iron.
@tompinnef6331
@tompinnef6331 3 года назад
Round bales look so much better then 'square' bales. Loved throwing 'straw' bails not the heavy hay bails much. Learned early on to wear long sleeve shirts will haying. Take care be safe 'Spin'
@jamietallman8396
@jamietallman8396 3 года назад
Look at you. You finally got to drive a real tractor. Quad range transmission, a clutch, hydraulic levers. That silver knob on the end of the steering wheel unscrews to shorten/lengthen the column. I grew up with 3010’s through 4440’s to 86 series 4x4’s. Great video. Brings back great memories.
@paulgiordano4948
@paulgiordano4948 3 года назад
Great video man , you should get an academy award 🥇 for your performance as Zack
@ryangreenwaldt8997
@ryangreenwaldt8997 3 года назад
Filming this was a blast!! Hoping to meet up with you again Zach!
@MaryWehmeier
@MaryWehmeier 3 года назад
You’re a natural. Makes my heart smile to see your generation farming. ❤️
@chrispileski6640
@chrispileski6640 3 года назад
That young man was all grins training you 😊 Good to see young men like him still enjoying that kind of work.
@ajskab99
@ajskab99 3 года назад
We run a 4455 in front of our baler. We’ve got a 566 and a 569. Use the 566 as a backup to the 569 and a secondary baler when we’re baling a lot of hay.
@royaltutranch
@royaltutranch 3 года назад
Love to see the older Deere’s! I’m more of a rancher than a farmer so I’m more familiar with the haying than corn and soybeans. Dad and I put hay up with a 1979 JD 4440, a 1969 JD 4020, and our pride and joy a 1961 JD 4010 that was the first tractor in western Kansas with duals. Big fan Zach. Love to meet ya someday.
@piperdoug428
@piperdoug428 3 года назад
The other risk is metal bands on the baker pick-up when they get bent there’s a risk of sparks or heat (defo bad when doing straw at harvest time)
@johnditch6357
@johnditch6357 3 года назад
baling wire real handy at times a real pain at others.
@tiredoldmechanic1791
@tiredoldmechanic1791 3 года назад
The plastic bands add more fuel when the baler starts on fire.
@fpoasec
@fpoasec 3 года назад
Loved Ryan. He's a natural.
@fishinguy7536
@fishinguy7536 3 года назад
Awesome video as usual! Loved the end when they were going over the history of their family farm. There aren't enough of those left anymore. Thanks for the countless, thankless hours that you and your dad...AND Jim put in to keep your farm going and thanks all the more for the EXTRA work you and Becky put in to make sure we get to tag along for the ride! We appreciate it Zach! God Bless!
@cusefan7541
@cusefan7541 3 года назад
Finally a real tractor on the page!
@lchebuhar9212
@lchebuhar9212 3 года назад
Great to see the next generation 💪
@GerraldFarms
@GerraldFarms 3 года назад
Nice looking hay. Cool first guest finger snap. Have a good one
@charltoncarter8142
@charltoncarter8142 3 года назад
We got to see you running!! All I could think after was "You alright.... You OK.... You alright??"
@rickykraus7450
@rickykraus7450 3 года назад
I never knew they had automatic takeoff milked back in 1972 my dad milked with buckets and a stepsaver till 1997 when he sold the farm.
@ronniejenkins2056
@ronniejenkins2056 3 года назад
I love the old iron myself we were raised on the two cylinders and they were great and then we got a 4020 that was quite a difference it's a power shift and I will say this it was the big deal back in the day great video I love the green and yellow good job baling zach
@PinMonkey1960
@PinMonkey1960 3 года назад
What a great kid. Super friendly and awesome smile.
@Claymore927
@Claymore927 3 года назад
I grew up next to a dairy farm in Scotland. During hay and silage season it was amazing being able to open my window and have my whole room smell of fresh cut grass!
@15farcry
@15farcry 3 года назад
You're getting pretty good at that finger snap trick that you might actually start convincing people that's a REAL THING! LOL
@MillennialFarmer
@MillennialFarmer 3 года назад
It is a real thing...
@oe542
@oe542 3 года назад
He really is snapping his fingers. No CGI here
@glenjamindle
@glenjamindle 3 года назад
Man, he is such a good actor!
@joebeernink2293
@joebeernink2293 3 года назад
Our "big tractor" on our farm growing up was a 1977 4430. So many memories. Thanks, man!
@briskibriski275
@briskibriski275 3 года назад
***DAMN*** 550,000 subscribers Congratulations and thank you for the top notch content !
@haydentaylor8651
@haydentaylor8651 3 года назад
Man look at that gorgeous John Deere 4430 we have a 4440 with about the same hours and it still runs like new and it still has the original engine
@CiRtriX
@CiRtriX 3 года назад
We have a 4440 too and it runs like new🤪👍
@jhjackandhenry7968
@jhjackandhenry7968 3 года назад
i love watching this channel
@namespacefnz
@namespacefnz 3 года назад
Ryan is a natural at the social media. Seems very comfortable & hip wit it lol
@gusbergeron7721
@gusbergeron7721 3 года назад
I just ran across the videos with your dad about the history of y’all farm. I grew up on a sugar cane farm in Southern Louisiana. Those pictures of those old White tractors brought back memories, we had Whites and Olivers. That was some of the best times of my life!!!
@bradystreich3054
@bradystreich3054 3 года назад
Love hay season!!!
@henningquast8456
@henningquast8456 3 года назад
He seems to be a volunteer firefighter. Nice to see that this is a thing in the US too.
@johnditch6357
@johnditch6357 3 года назад
at one point in time volunteer was what you did unless you wanted to fight your own fires alone.
@Traks_threw_life86
@Traks_threw_life86 3 года назад
Most of the state of Kansas is volunteer firefighters minus the large cities of course!
@johnditch6357
@johnditch6357 3 года назад
@@Traks_threw_life86 in our town the chief is 'paid' not a lot everyone else is volunteers
@Traks_threw_life86
@Traks_threw_life86 3 года назад
@@johnditch6357 I'm not sure if mine is paid but volunteering is a great thing and keeps the community close together. My town is only 150 population.
@johnditch6357
@johnditch6357 3 года назад
@@Traks_threw_life86 missing the days of "The Grange", "4H" and the "Fire Mans Ball"
@jordanclayson2
@jordanclayson2 3 года назад
We had a 4250 on the farm and it’s was bulletproof. All the big farms I know of that get all new equipment every other year hold onto their 30/40/50 series tractors for odd jobs because they are so reliable and durable.
@ginggur17
@ginggur17 3 года назад
Love these, my Dad used to drive a 4230 on the farm. 🇬🇧🇺🇸🙏👍
@connoralbaugh8045
@connoralbaugh8045 3 года назад
Love the content looks like some good hay
@jakeeldridge9808
@jakeeldridge9808 3 года назад
Send rain my hayfields are turning brown
@MillennialFarmer
@MillennialFarmer 3 года назад
I'll do my best!
@johnditch6357
@johnditch6357 3 года назад
"Be careful what you wish for" said Genie in Aladdin this morning I was at my local Lowe's, thought their sound system messed up, got to cashier looked outside it was like we were under a waterfall. Good News it cleared quick and didn't wash out too many roads.
@heartwoodfarms9982
@heartwoodfarms9982 3 года назад
Enjoyed the video. Looked just about like our hay operation. We cut app 400 acres all with a 4020 and bale our hay with a 4440 and a 567 baler. Dependable easy to maintain older green iron.....you can't beat it!
@kirkbaublitz249
@kirkbaublitz249 3 года назад
What a great video. It’s great to see how farmers work together. Brings back memories of my days working on the farm.
@lkurowic
@lkurowic 3 года назад
Eric and Ryan did very well in front of the camera. Oh and Zack you did O K (I guess). : )
@treyinok
@treyinok 3 года назад
Looks like your co-host did a good job. He got his own finger snap.
@Manr011
@Manr011 3 года назад
Highlight of the day, good to see you and the family are doing so well.
@brittblanton8342
@brittblanton8342 3 года назад
Hey Zach thanks for the great video. I love the older tractors no DEF to have to mess with simple to operate and you can work on them yourself! Those hay bands were awesome I wish I had those in my hay roller back when I farmed. Your neighbors seem like great people.👍
@kuisysnojus3378
@kuisysnojus3378 3 года назад
I really like your vidijo I've been watching you for 3 years,I've been from lithuania:-):-):-)
@oakspringfarms6264
@oakspringfarms6264 3 года назад
Love the vids ❤
@phelpstonrailfan4282
@phelpstonrailfan4282 3 года назад
Gotta love that 4430 start up
@onefixitman
@onefixitman 3 года назад
I used to help my Grandfather bale the rectangle bales in Lafayette, TN in the early 80's during summer vacations. Was a very fun time as a kid.
@wyatt6781
@wyatt6781 3 года назад
Hey zac millenials arnt supposed to get sweety 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂👍👍👍
@MillennialFarmer
@MillennialFarmer 3 года назад
It was TERRIBLE
@JD-iu3vi
@JD-iu3vi 3 года назад
Sometimes they get sweaty too.
@graystoneBradshaw
@graystoneBradshaw 3 года назад
@@MillennialFarmer 🤣🤣🤣
@mrmikeyd2
@mrmikeyd2 3 года назад
WOW.....the actor who plays the Millennial Farmer found the actor who plays Woody Harrellson!!!!!😎😎👀👀 This channel has gone "completely Hollywood" 😍😍😍😍😍
@MillennialFarmer
@MillennialFarmer 3 года назад
🤣🤣 a couple of red carpet guys just baling hay
@oe542
@oe542 3 года назад
Millennial Farmer “HAYlisters”
@Buchnell
@Buchnell 3 года назад
Love listening to the Pod Cast Finally figured out where and when I can listen to them. I mow for a Rural guy his lawn and it takes 2-1/2 hours too mow so I have the wonderful ISO Tunes and listen at that time while I mow on the weekend. great ear candy to listen to. Keep it up.
@rasnt5
@rasnt5 3 года назад
Wonderful segment! Zack you're so nice to give Brian the First Guest Finger snap!. Ryan are you a volunteer FF or EMS? Zack thank you for this video. It brought back memory smells from 95 lol.
@ryangreenwaldt8997
@ryangreenwaldt8997 3 года назад
I am working on getting my EMT as well as on the wait list for the Fire Department due to it being full.
@rasnt5
@rasnt5 3 года назад
@@ryangreenwaldt8997 I'll fix your name in the comment lol. Awesome Best wishes.
@mattw3904
@mattw3904 3 года назад
No social distancing in the 4430? HAHA
@andrewruble7706
@andrewruble7706 3 года назад
So cool to hear the history of other farm at the end. What a cool family. Thanks for sharing.
@craigwavra3495
@craigwavra3495 3 года назад
Love the bailing video. Never knew how these worked. Learn so much through these. Cheers!
@ConeMakerDude2020
@ConeMakerDude2020 3 года назад
I work for the company who makes those bands. He is just a small company. Tobin Apparatus out of Green Top Missouri. Look him up on line. He is the only one in the U.S. if not all the world that makes them.
@bryanclancy431
@bryanclancy431 3 года назад
You definitely don’t make the only ones in the world because they are produced in Ireland as we have such a high quantity of balers in the country
@johnditch6357
@johnditch6357 3 года назад
there you go get what you need from these guys.
@CMDRSweeper
@CMDRSweeper 3 года назад
I find it a bit interesting Krone balers aren't mentioned...
@mfreund15448
@mfreund15448 3 года назад
I know the insurance guy in Green Top.
@bpaul1201awesome
@bpaul1201awesome 3 года назад
@@CMDRSweeper they are still not the common in the North American market yet.
@haydenuerling5607
@haydenuerling5607 3 года назад
I restored a 4010 John Deere tractor and a one row rake and a square bailer so now I can help my dad bail
@johnditch6357
@johnditch6357 3 года назад
and all that 'hands on' stuff taught you a lot.
@chevyon37s
@chevyon37s 3 года назад
Bale*
@lathamindustries6316
@lathamindustries6316 3 года назад
That’s ace. I’ve collected all five 10 series but haven’t restored them yet. Shame on me.
@tiernanmcgonigle3397
@tiernanmcgonigle3397 3 года назад
Seeing the old iron on this channel is a nice change to all the newer equipment we see on Zachs farm.
@scottmaass4329
@scottmaass4329 3 года назад
WOW! Think about that a minute......he had the first FULLY AUTOMATED dairy parlor in MN...
@jamesbainton
@jamesbainton 3 года назад
**sobs** Trevor would be so proud...even if they are round **sobs**
@alanwilcox2008
@alanwilcox2008 3 года назад
Hey Zach: Er...... I mean Hay Zach. Very interesting video...... Foggy lens caused by heavy breathing. More gym time in order. Captain Al from Tampa😎
@HammerPowered
@HammerPowered 3 года назад
Spent many a summer in my youth helping bale hay...the square style that got thrown onto a truck then hoisted up into the barns. Great workout. Cool perspective seeing him run the round bales.
@cacr2728
@cacr2728 3 года назад
Gland to see you back on great video
@jurpikag
@jurpikag 3 года назад
Thought I stumbled onto "Millennial Rancher" channel for a second...
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