The finger pinch or the back nuckle tap get me. I use a pretty heavy trainer because it was cheap and tapping your knuckle with it on a double roll out hurts like hell. But hey, if I can manage with it then a lighter blade will be easier.
I passed the test and can now do the trick and am very willing to learn more like the double helix. But now I'm scared of tricks like literally throwing my balisong in the damn air
50 Blades of Grey Ok, btw thanks for the videos, even tho I've been flipping for a couple months I've learned from you probably the coolest tricks I can do
50 Blades of Grey i can nail it like every 10 tries, but im working on getting it every time ( btw its cool to see you interacting with fans, i just wish you would post a bit more....if you could...)
Tristan Byrn If I can do videos more often I will try for sure, it's hard for me though. I work full time and each of these videos can take 5-7 hours to make between filming and editing. New video every 2 weeks is the current goal.
I feel stupid for not thinking about just taping the blade edge. You just saved me $50 on a Zenith trainer, now I can probably afford to try FlyTanium scales!
He is so detailed on how to do the trick this is honestly one of the best butterfly knife videos I've ever seen I'm excited to see what kind of videos you have an future I was wondering if you could do a butterfly knife trick, completion where we submit videos and you choose the best ones to be in a RU-vid video of butterfly knife tricks love your videos I am subscribed
Zen rollover was the first trick i learned. Helix being the second I just went pro on balisong when i finally got it. I actually learned the zen rollover in 1 day
Milica Oljaca it's a good first to know for sure, I think the zen wins for me just because so many advanced moves rely on you begin able to confidently grab the bite handle while the blade is coming towards your fingers
oh ok :D I because of you i learned the behind the 8 ball really fast :D And now i got it like 7/10 times.... I also learned the helix but i am not really good at it xD i can do it but often i fail....
Kawaii Nightcore glad they could help, I've gotten comments from a few lefties and am strongly thinking about putting a collection of my tutorials together and flipping the video so lefties can learn more easily
I started with a trainer so it was much easier learning these, and yes I do flip a balisong with a live blade, so I'd suggest getting a trainer to start out with, not a 300$ knife meant for experianced users lol
Knife Lover I agree that trainers can be good buuuuuut I also think tape can be a good substitute. Plus you get the added bonus of getting used to the knife you will be using for live tricks. Just depends on what is most comfortable for the individual 😄
Yes I can see that, I was actually looking into getting a B&S Balisong plain satin, I personally like a trainer because I can flip in public without crazy looks, well, a few here and there heh
what kind of butter knife do you have? I want one I want to know where to get it :3 oh so i sub and like all of your videos thanks for da training sensei!
tx man,,,great tutorial..i;ve got cut and bleed....kinda of traumatic...lol.....thx for that putting tape on....i used trainer...but definitely i'll use tape to get my confidence back..
another thing you can do if you don't want to tape the blade is to just start on the bite handle so if it gets too close you wont get cut but you will still feel it to know that you messed up.
Hey 50 shades, I am learning this trick, with a live blade. But I am starting on the bite handle. I am just having trouble with my balisong. It has the metal rods that go through at the hilt. Could you just tell me a few good balisong knives I should buy on the web? And where I might find them as well please. I've been searching but it's hard to tell what's actually good by their terrible descriptions. Thanks bro. Nice videos. You've been helping a lot! Along with Bite handle. Thanks for the knowledge.
Ogoshdam Plays hello, for a balisong I think your best bet, regardless of price is something that weighs 4-6oz, is 9-10" long, and that's about it The one I used in this video is the BRS Replicant for example but a more affordable Balisong with similar stats would be a decent option too. My first was a $30 bear and son 114 for example, nothing spectacular but it worked
ImAwesomeAF [] I think it could be useful but I would guess that If someone can learn it vertically or diagonally they shouldn't have much trouble doing it horizontally
The problems I'm having are: 1) I can't find any articles that explain the physics of the balisong in-depth. I'd like to know why what's going on in my hand is happening the way it is, so I can manipulate it with better understanding. 2) There are no mentions anywhere about balance. I noticed yours had a clip on one of the handles and I'd assume even that amount of weight would through you off. I want to know which brands are properly weighted/balanced that makes it the most effective. I would also love to know if the pins becoming looser over time will affect the knifes operation.
Yoshikage EHKOS, first, a balisong is manipulated with your fingers, so your fingers should be strong depending on the weight of the balisong. Also, the only physics on a balisong is the momentum you use to do rollovers. Also, the clip on the bite handle won't affect the weight at all. The clip on that specific knife is made of titanium, so the weight on each handle would differ by a few grams. The best brands i would buy balisongs from would be HOM Design, Blade Runners System, and Benchmade. Hope you find the right knife.
Also, the knife he is using is top notch quality. It is one of the best butterfly knives you can buy. The pocket clip is also removable of the weight puts you off.
Electro the knife should be able to do it unless the handles are extremely stiff. It took many attempts for me to learn how to get it roll around my thumb. Aside from the advice in the video the only other thing I can say is try, try again
50 Blades of Grey well at least I learned to tape the blade so far, I think it's my hand and wrist that is stiff. A little KY jelly will loosen up my grip...
Quick question, what knife is that? Could you link to my an amazon link to that knife? And if there is a trainer version could you link me the amazon link please?
Charles Fields perhaps I am incorrect, I use the trick known as the Y3K as a reason to support the idea of the Y2K starting on the bite handle and landing on safe handle. Both the zen rollover and Y2K are thumb rollovers I just use the zen rollover and Y2K as ways to describe what handle the knife will land on
Hey I'm new to "Balisong-ing" about 4 months now and gotten pretty good very quickly but I'm freak like that with most things I try my hand at. Love the videos. Even picked up a new trick from the '5 Tricks you can master quickly' one, so thanks! Question though! I thought that the main difference between the Y2K and Zen was that the Y2K was vertical and the Zen was horizontal. And the which handle you end on was just referred to by either a bite rollover or safe rollover?... but your saying they are actually the same trick regardless and the hand you start and finish is basically what determines whether you did a Y2K or a Zen?
Dracorientalis hello and thank you! I'm glad to hear that the videos can be helpful even for someone further along than brand new to flipping! But yes I am saying Y2K is a thumbrollover that starts on bite handle and lands on safe And that Zen rollover is thumbrollover that starts on safe handles and lands on bite handle. I use the trick, "Y3K" as support for this reasoning. I don't get caught up to much on the vertical-ness or horizontal-ness of the tricks because I feel like that is less descriptive than the handle the trick finishes on
Yeah... see I thought what counted as a different trick was how different the physics and forces involved when it comes to anything Skateboarding, Motorcross, yo yos. And for the most part for those that is the case. Here the Y2K and Zen then are actually the same trick and their is no difference because the force is the same but even if you perform vertically which makes them slightly harder to pull of because it's a difference even that makes the trick both a Y2K and a Zen. The 'handle you end on' thing doesn't make sense to me because traditionally balisongs and some models still are doubled edged which means you have two bite handles. So you could only ever do a Zen rollover and never Y2K. i don't know I'm scratching my head over that. the forces involved thing makes much more sense to me but I guess balisong flipping is different then to other trick based practices.
Dracorientalis hello again! For the most part I agree. You can easily refer to both tricks as a "Thumbrollover." The force being acted on the knife is for the most part, the same. For your example with the double edged Balisong that term is all you would need. But it changes when you have a Balisong with an edge and unsharpened spine. When that's the case the term Y2K and Zen Rollover can be used to further specify what's going on. Using the term thumbroll, leaves the question of, what handle do you start on/ land on? The terms Y2K and Zen Rollover eliminate the need for a follow up question.
Question about taping the blade. I am learning tricks like hellish and a bunch of rollover combos, and I want to tape the blade so I don't cut myself so much. Which tape should I use that will stay on the blade, but will leave little to no residue?
Butterfly knives with actual blades are banned in Ireland. Is there any way I could simulate the danger of possibly cutting my fingers with a trainer, without just thinking "This will hurt if I do it wrong?"
GamingMastr467 I think the general consensus is that you can do tricks on a curved balisong but depending on the trick it may be more difficult than on straight handled balisong
50 Blades of Grey Oh, okay. I haven't quite got to the combo part yet. I don't really know enough tricks, and the tricks I do know I haven't mastered well enough to combo them
I remember when I learned the Y2K. I had this running joke with the way I did it, my friends would say it's "the most effective way of shaving my arm," because instead of going up and over my thumb, I would go around my thumb horizontally. Good times good times, when I was still a little novice.
Abliskarian you can, I see tape as an easy, quick solution to practicing. You can use a CSGO themed knife but the handle shape may make some tricks harder to learn
piotr baucz What's your price range? If it is 100-200, get a squid trainer. if it is 200-300, get a benchmade 51 morpho or a standard replicant. If your price range is 300-500, get an alpha beast.