Ballas is such an interesting character. Hes a perfect window of the Orokin elite from back then. But despite that veneer of grandiose self importance. He was as human as anyone else. They're hubris of trying to become gods in the flesh made him just as infallible as mere men. He loved, he hated and probably even felt jealousy towards us for how Margulis was willing to die for us, but not recant for him.
So, every Warframe is a human being infested and encased in armor. That is a horrible fate. All armors but Umbra cant move. So their minds are practically destroyed to leave an empty shell to pilot.
@@artyomxiii Then how come the warframe was able to break war in two? It was a frame with no pilot, acting on its own. I pose that even the current warframes are helminth infected humans, though mass produced and pre-hollowed so the tenno can house them with ease seconds after forging. Remember that the copying technology of this universe is able to copy a beings mental state.
@@DKannji I'm sory which war are you talking about? If it's the old war I'm guessing they're the Dax soldiers that willingly give their lives for experiments and wage war on Sentients. But they enraged and rebelled attacking Orokin instead but was then annihilated (that was the original primes). Ballas told Hunhow about these. From what I got the Erra quest. It was shown the old war when Natah betrayed her brother and become Lotus the space mom, then skipped to present day. Just my opinion but that when Natah/Lotus was accompanied by Tenno-es it was when they controlled(?) the Prime Warframes and possibly win(?) Idk, it was when Orokin empire knows the potential pf body (warframes) and mind (Tenno) so the second rebellion can be prevented also I think it happens after they killed Margullis. If it is the timeline might add up. Orokin kill margullis -> they prepare the second attack on Sentient -> in battlefield Natah took pity on them then become Lotus -> then attacking Erra. After its over then happens the fall of Orokin empire etc etc.
Here's something even more akin to Ballas; the Paracesis was for the Tenno to kill him (Ballas). Why? In the Chimaera prologue Ballas complains that he was robbed of his perfect death by being turned into a sentient hybrid.
I feel like Ballas was a good villain during the new war. I would've loved to see more of him during the general plot of warframe but maybe he could come back during duviri as some sort of villain type for the orokin open world, similar to Vay Hek in the plains or Nef Anyo on the Vallis. He's so genuinely fucked up in every way that makes him so likeable as a villain
Thank you for this video. Now I understand the Warframe lore A LOT BETTER. I was so confused before about Ballas, Hunhow, Sentients, Orikin empire and of course how it was chronologically.
Really looking forward to your update now that the new war is out. Warframe's story telling is so cryptic that I had a hard time understanding what's happening and why. The game mechanics need the wiki and the story needs these videos. Otherwise 90% of players would have no idea what's going on or even how to play the game. For instance, I thought Ballas was a powerful figure who somehow got captured and enslaved by the sentients. In the new war the balance of power between Ballas and Erra has nearly been reversed and I have no bloody idea how and why. I've watched all the cutsecens again and again, but I just don't get any of it because this plot was written by and for cryptographers.
Most people don't which may be an issue of rewrites than anything. There is hints in the New War Prologue that Ballas was always working with Erra, but it makes no sense why he would provide to us the Paracesis during Chimera or why he ended up pairing up with Erra instead of Hunhow who we find out he originally paired with during the Sacrifice. ***Spoilers for NEW War*** Personally I think that Ballas and Erra pair in the new world are a different set than what we were dealing with prior and due to Wally, he put us in a reality where we could save Lotus. It would make more sense with how Externalism and the Drifter work since it seems the Drifter dealt with the "bad ending" aftermath of facing Ballas and if you chose to, our normal space kid would just swap places at the final push to become victorious. With how Externalism is explained, and with what we know of The voidborn Man in the Wall, he seems to be able to condense realities together and put us where we would get the outcome we want as seen when we make the deal with him during the Zarimon. We shake his hand and he goes through other realities and kills the other realities of us where we don't make it out and don't make void powers and just leaves the one where we do for us to take the place of. If you also recall during the prelog quests Wally is the one who is guiding us to the info about the Lotus leaving with Ballas, as well guiding us to Ballas imprisoned wishing death. Since it's Wally leading us and we lose our Warframes during those sections, I think that's Wally guiding us to different realities to fuel our negative emotions up and lead to the New War's final outcome which was him being realized from the void and most likely placed into the Lotus. This idea goes from The War Within where the Twin Queen is trying to take over us and is trying to put us in a negative spiral of emotions to be able to fully take control of our body and complete Transference. In the chains of Harrow quest we also see Wally struggle to control Rell due to him trying to stray from his negative emotions, but the more Rell fell into his negative feels the more power and control Wally seemed to have. And finally in the Sacrifice we discover that we also are able to do Transference with Warframes because we are mending them of their own negative thoughts and feelings imbued into them. So for Wally to take over we have to be in a super negative state which he was trying to induce with putting a divide between the Lotus and us, but ultimate he took the Lotus's body and transferred to her instead because she shielded us from him, but would have met the same negative emotion requirements with everything that has happened to her from awakening to Natah, leaving her beloved Tenno for Ballas, her lingering memories of Margulas forced into her mind, and being manipulated by Ballas and Erra to destroy the system the Lotus worked so hard with the Tenno to protect. When selecting which voice for our Lotus to be, she is even covered in the same energy effect we are when we make cryptic choices, I think showing us that she now has the same power we do.
SmoughTown well you can add that each frame in prime trailers that what he thinks of the frames while he creating them. His past self during that time what was his point of view during the old age. I’m interested if someone will make a more detailed video of what ballas talking about in those trailers. It’s a good idea to make a separate video Ah also I notice he always talking to some audience except valker trailer
@@TheDragonfriday Yeah I think you are right - a video dedicated to his thoughts on each warframe could be the way to go. He has a good commentary on Greed and Loss of Primal selves etc in these.
@@SmoughTown I think a video dedicated to the story of each Warframe from creation to death would be excellent - like talking about the story of Mag, how she was injured in orbit protecting the evacuating Ark Ships at the battle of Neptune, only to later lead the charge in the counterattack to Tau. Or Mirage's friendship with Archimedian Margulis as an Orokin noble who turned into a Warframe only to die like Chuck Norris in orbit at the battle of Eris alongside Mesa and Atlas. There are so many stories, and each Warframe possesses their own, given we put the pieces together.
14:52 "In the System**" All of Warframe takes place within our solar system. A galaxy is comprised of many billions of such solar systems. It really amazes me how so many people dont know the difference. Ya'll know a shit ton about game lore, try learning some real life lore.
Excellent character analysis. Putting all of Ballas' actions into perspective, it makes so much sense when you remember that Ballas' vanity was virtue to him. He murdered, resurrected, and eternally enslaved Ordan Karis for insulting his beauty, how easy it must have been for the Sentients to calculate his betrayal.
You mentionned that sentients came back to Origin System first to start the war. I'm convinced that Orokins traveled to Tau system and the war started There. (solar-rail jump in mag prime codex, zariman ten-zero military purpose in ember prime codex, mirage hidden message memories)
Damnit, I really want to get into this game but getting into mplayer games is hard for me and playing this solo is just kinda boring. I've heard that the later parts of the game are much better but when I stopped playing a few years ago I had just beaten the Archwing questline and I can't even remember how to use the Archwing anymore the 5 or 6 times I've popped in to try and get back into it.
@@SmoughTown I'm not even sure if I can when playing it on Xbox without having a Gold membership even though it's free to play Microsoft thinks they deserve the money when the devs themselves aren't making money off of it that way. I'll check it out next time I start up my Xbox, I've got it for the Pro aswell(which is free to play) but now that I've got an XB1X I try to play it on that which I'm not too far in, I think I've only beaten 1 or 2 questlines and opened the gateway to another planet. What's the info for me to get ahold of you on there in case it does let me? I can't remember if it stops me from everything when it comes to player interaction like messaging or if it just stops me from doing missions with other players. I'd definitely join if I can, you're the guy who got me into the Souls series. When I first started playing them and then saw one of your vids I kept thinking "Where the hell is he getting this from?" I was close to just stop playing until I realized there was so much more to it than the very little that's blatantly shown, your vids stopped me from making that mistake(now it's one of my favorite series and has unfortunately raised my standards for new games) shown me how the story is presented.
@@WhiskeyTango76s Hmmm I'm not too sure about the Xbox Live versions, but I let me know next time you are on the Xbox if it works and I can add your Gamer Tag. Mine is Clockwork Geoff I'm glad I helped encourage you to get into dark souls - it can be a hard series to get into but it really is a beautiful game and universe.
@@SmoughTown I got on earlier and was able to send you a request so if you get one from a MG Fox Die then that's me. How is the game during the more recent patches/expansions compared to its early content(Like after the Archwing quest)? Does it get better and draw you in more compared to the older stuff? I don't think there's really much of a story with those earlier quests but it sounds like there is later in the game.
now finaly i can feel that ballas love us but he cant stay in this lif anymore ass a sentiant orokin and he knows that tenno dont have the power to kill him bc they are sad for his changes so he played the evil character and make badly things to make the tenno angry and finaly he let the only lie that he belive capture his mind that is margulis loves him so he was happy to die in her love and back to her so thats mean we make him free to make his dream a reality # let me dream guys , i cant forgive myself to kill ballas for betrayal like natah that tried to kill us many time and killed ordis
