BALLSY Move | Thornhill - Heroine | Album REACTION Highlights! 

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I had the good fortune of discovering Thornhill through this album first. Then I saw all the fans backlash about it being such a departure from the Dark Pool. Gave that a listen and liked that too. Made me appreciate them so much more as artists/creators. They’re wearing their Deftones and 80’s/90’s influences on their sleeves on this one and I’m a sucker for it because I love Deftones and am in my thirties. Love Heroine, love The Dark Pool. Can’t wait to see what they do next.

Haven’t given “The Dark Pools” album a good listen, but absolutely loved this album from the start. Maybe they’ve reached a new and/or broader audience because I’m definitely in!

The album is a grower for sure, i wasnt quite sure at first but after a couple repeat of the album and seeing some of their new songs live, i catch it now and i love it. Some songs goes hard af live in their new stuff

Definitely one of those albums that builds on you. especially when its so far removed from their last album

Off the back of The Dark Pool, I wasn't totally thrilled when the singles for Heroine dropped. I didn't hate them, but I definitely was on the fence. It felt like such a left turn from what Thornhill were known for at first. My first listen through the album was a lot like your reaction here-some of it good, some of it just not doing anything for me. After some time and a handful more listens through, I'm actually really enjoying most of the album. The singles that I was initially apprehensive about are ironically now my favorite tracks. It's so hard to separate this from The Dark Pool, but I think it's a really good piece of music once you can do that. That being said, you can still here some Dark Pool creeping through here and there which is nice. I'm still not a fan of the last 2 tracks on this though. Both of them fall a bit flat compared to the rest of the album imo, especially since they have to follow Raw.

Like every album that's experimenting more, it took me more listens but now I love it, especially RAW

I actually had to listen to The Dark Pool like 5 times to get into it, and I kept returning mostly because of the awesome cover. I had a reaction akin to yours upon first hearing the singles, but I really love Heroine no less than TDP at this point. I think you really have to get into the vibe. TDP is very emotional and personal, you have to really get into the lyrics. With Heroine, I just put it on, kinda put my focus on the instrumentals over the vocals, and feel immersed in this Hollywood atmosphere, with this twisted outlook on love and sex and success and so on. I am not sure whether I'll keep coming back to Heroine in a few years, but at the same time, I can count the number of albums that elicited such emotion from me on my fingers.

I entirely get the disappointment, but I hope it clicks eventually after a few listens. I absolutely loved "TDP" and I also love "Heroine." I instantly was excited to hear the new, experimental sound. Possibly AOTY for me, its been on repeat since day 1

Someone else said it pretty perfectly, it’s like if Muse and Deftones had a baby and didn’t give it enough love. I for one really liked it, this album was pretty much my introduction to Thornhill but I went back and listened to The Dark Pool and I can honestly see an evolution of that sound in Heroine. FFO The Dark Pool you need to listen to Stellar Circuits- Ways we haunt album. I get very similar vibes to that and it was released a year prior to TDP.

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Unpopular opinion but Thornhill -Butterfly- album is my fav and best and it was an EP.

So happy to see so much love for this album here in the comments.

This is an album that people are going to hold in high regard later on. It will probably be their "White Pony" moment.

Human is my favorire of their tracks, hits very different

Dude I honestly can't believe that you've not reacted to Rivers of Nihil - The void from which no sound escapes... Stunningly good and soul grabbing 🤘🏻🤘🏻

Lets get Uneven Structure - 8 up here, it’s only 24 mins long, but really worth it✨✨✨

Just love this album, with each listen I like it even more! Although The Dark Pool is one of my all time favourites I'm glad they didn't just release 2.0. The riffs on Heroine are amazing and the vocals are incredible. Jacob's range and vocal styles bring the band to a different dimension, at times very theatrical. I listened to a recent interview with him and he said he was not influenced by muse or Deftones (in fact has not listened to them). He was in fact inspired by Justin Timberlake. I have to admit one of my guilty pop music pleasures is Justin so it's suiting that I'm loving this album. Glad you could get some of the review on RU-vid.

First time I listened to it I thought it was okay but it only took one day with 2 more listens to fucking love this album. Arkangel became my favourite and I absolutely love the hellfire club. Honestly I love this album so much now and respect thorn hill for not being afraid to try shit out. Dark pool and Heroine are honestly pretty tied for me now.

Hey Drew, you should totally check out "Danza 4" by "The Tony Danza Tapdance Extravaganza". Incredible band and album, something I really dug into after Meshuggah.

nah, hands down aoty for me hahaha although i understand why people aren't a huge fan. i just love hearing bands develop their own sound and - despite the obvious deftones influence - this album feels like exactly what thornhill want to be. the way they've written the vocals and the tracks around the vocals fits jacobs style perfectly, and lyrically it's INCREDIBLE. if you pick up or look at a physical copy, all of the tracks are given context in the form of a film script to give you insight into the stories, just adding an extra depth to the record. I would agree that it isn't a metalcore record, but that doesn't matter to me cuz i still enjoyed every second of it and i think its a masterpiece in songwriting and storytelling. so so so so sooooo excited to see them with bury tomorrow in october

I chose this over The Dark Pool any day. The Dark Pool is a beast if an album…But this is thornhill’s true sound , and they do it so well, yeah its not the absolute most original , but its more unique than the dark pool will ever be and they pull it off. But i 100% why people are so attached to the dark pool cause its a nearly perfect album.

At first listen I was conflicted but after a few listens it did grow on me similar to most comments here. However, is it safe to say an album can "ungrow" on me? This was all I was listening to for like 2 days and then I dropped it. Casanova and parts of Raw and Hollywood are the ones I seem to go back to and I think it's because I just yearn for more upbeat Thornhill. I've never been a fan of shoegaze or any mellow rock albums so that may just be my personal bias. No question that this is an amazing for the people who enjoy those genres but it's having a hard time retaining my attention.

To each there own! The album hit a lot of nostalgic spots for me which made me love it. Its a delicious, very stylistic album. But i get why others cant vibe with it

Your reaction was very similar to may own really. Tried to get it on the first listen, didn't really vibe with it. Since then I've come around on a couple of songs that I really like, but overall I am still not really into the album. That said, if you haven't checked out their Butterfly EP yet, I highly recommend you to do so. It is very much a prototype to their sound on TDP and contains my favorite song they've recorded so far.

I didn't get it at first mostly because I loved TDP so much and it seems like a big shift but after listening a couple of times through headphones it clicked all of a sudden. It's an amazing album. Too short if anything. Blue Velvet is chefs kiss, so incredible.

I agree with you 100%. Also, i'd love to see you check out "Greyview" by Invent Animate

As a huuuuuge Thornhill fan, you are absolutely right. 100000%

Never clicked on anything so fast

i don’t understand how people don’t like arkangel. Also regarding the album- If anything the dark pool had more straight forward song structures. for what it is i enjoyed this album, a lot of singles were better in the context of the album. I personally think they experimented more on this album than the dark pool. also the vocal criticism - lmaoo he’s just channeling muse and deftones it’s nothing too crazy.

Have you heard of Ethel Cain? She’s an amazing singer and songwriter and a few weeks ago she released her new album Preacher's daughter. I would like to know your opinion about the album. Greetings!

Hey Drew, I think you should give Time, The Valuator's How Fleeting, How Fragile a listen. It has more of that "mainstream" feel that Thornhill somewhat has, but you'll thoroughly enjoy it more than Heroine

You mentioned a comment saying there should be more piano in metal. Another Australia band called Twelve Foot Ninja, probably the most underrated band currently. They’re metal but have Latin and jazz elements and really unique. Check out Coming For You

vildhjarta - masstaden is a great album if you enjoy meshuggah

I'm curious to know what you think a year later

Ok so I had the opposite opinion, the dark pool took 3-4 listens to really get into while this one had me right off the bat cause of its early 2000’s energy. Idk man, preference is a hell of a thing.

This reminds me on the story of Eminem setting the bar higher and higher with each album he made, and one day it won’t be reached and it’s hard when that happens.. if you go into this album blind it’s great for what it is. But it’s all relative to what you know beforehand, dark pool is it’s own masterpiece.

I didn’t like this album at first but now I’m obsessed with it. Especially Hollywood. That song was top 3 worst on the album for me my first listen and now it’s in my top 3 best for sure

I will miss old thornhill but this album is good. Arkangel, leather wings, heroine, all bangers imo

You should check out cherry safe in your stare EP it’s Jacob’s side project you would like it.

Gotta listen to Saviour - Shine & Fade You will not be disappointed

I personally dig this album a ton. It grew on me big time. Im a huge Deftones fan and it reminded me of when Deftones put out their self titled after releasing White Pony. Fans had the same reaction Thornhill fans have now. I can understand why some fans would be turned off to it though. Its definitely not TDP lol.

Please i wanna react to grey haven album * this bright and beautiful world * It’s so rare and unique

I think I lucked out by discovering Thornhill through after they released Hollywood. My first experience of the band was cycling through Casanova, Arkangel, and Hollywood. After thoroughly enjoying them, I went back to TDP and was thoroughly shocked that it was the same band. I fell in love with TDP (much like you did), but by being exposed to this newer, dreamy, sexy sound first, it was very easy for me to disconnect the band from their previous work. I prefer TDP to Heroine, but having said that, Heroine may be my AOTY at the moment, and I view them as basically done by two different bands given how drastically different the styles were. But for people who cannot separate the artists from their previous work, I can understand why this album is just not working for them. It has happened to a lot of bands, like Linkin Park

Hey man try some Make Them Suffer - Hallowed Heart extremely talented Aussie metalcore with some of the best guitar work in the business

Check out The Cold Sun by Loathe or Butterfly by Thornhill.

Yes the hellfire club is my favorite on the album leather wings, blue velvet, arkangel, Valentine and heroine my least favorite on the album is Casanova (I prefer the live version better) Hollywood, raw and varsity hearts.

I really like The Hellfire Club and Varsity Blues but the rest did nothing for me. Definitely not a metalcore record, i feel like this band is going to do a lot of genre bouncing but hopefully they come back to metalcore soon.

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Let me give you a little bit of a different perspective. I never heard Thornhill until I heard this album. I am a huge Deftones fan but, their last couple records have been very underwhelming. When I heard this I was extremely excited because it sounded like a really good, heavy Deftones record. When I went back and listened to the rest of Thornhill's catalog I was a little disappointed in that they didn't sound as much like this one. I have since grown to like Dark Pools and the E.P. but for different reasons. I really dig Herione, it has been on repeat, especially The Hellfire Club. That song grabs you by the feels.

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It feels like Thornhill discovered sex after The Dark Pool's sucess and Heroine is the result. Unfortunately angsty virgin Thornhill was much better.

Casanova and raw are so fucking hot

Everyone has their own opinion and I respect all of it BUT I have a smile seeing you agree with me. This sound just isn’t it. Still love TDP.

I'll stick to TDP myself

Yeah I'll be honest, this album unfortunately didn't click for me, and that sucks cuz the Dark Pool is one of my favorite albums. I will say though that The Hellfire Club is one of their best songs

No way dude doesn’t dig valentine 😐

I’m a huuuuuuge fan of The Dark Pool. Brilliant album. I absolutely haaaaaate the new stuff. A huge disappointment. I’ve given it a few listens & I’m just not feeling it.

I completely agree with Drew. Like most of the comments, I found this album a complete departure from the previous to the point that it sounds like a different band. The vocal effects are too overwhelming and imo unnecessary for such a great singer! Listening to this album you would think this singer is weak due to the effects and mixing. The dark pool was much cleaner and respectful of his vocal abilities. The music composition is also a complete departure from the previous album and that’s why I feel this album much more mainstream and divisive.

Seriously do not like this album. I've played through a few different times and there's some highlights but overall I just can't. It's so weird and not in a good way for me, like Death of Peace of Mind, Obsidian or Amo. The mixing is weird on his screams, they sound really produced compared to the previous album and have a lot less beef to them in my opinion.

fans should stop comparing this to TDP coz they are completely the opposite

i hate the vocal effects on this with a passion. TDP vocals were perfection.

I've tried listening to this album a few times since I liked Dark Pool and Deftones, but man his vocals just ruin it for me. Not even just the effects which are grating enough but the melodies themselves just feel aimless.

Heroine > The Dark Pool.

Really loved your TDPP reaction but this is no reaction. Its just 18 mins of spams....an advert....meh

Deftones done poorly.