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The boat engine stopped THREE TIMES and had to be restarted??? When a car engine stops unexpectedly (and it's not out of gas), it's usually because rainwater found its way into the tank. What about this boat engine stopping?
This is a poor summary of this event. I was a USCG Marine Casualty Investigator & I am a graduate of the US Merchant Marine Academy where I earned a license as a 3rd mate and QMED for then Engine Room. There are numerous errors here, most minnor, but I will point out 3 key errors. 1. The emergency generator on the M/V Dali is very small and has the capacity to support minimal systems. There are a total of 4 generators on board the Dali. 2 Main Generators and 2 Auxillary Generators. There is 1 emergency generator. The event sequence was initiated with a loss of electrical power. This results in a loss of propulsion when fuel, lube oil & control air was lost to the main engine. 2. The anchor is not going to bring this vessel to a stop, at most it may slow it, but is more likely to create drag on the ship and perhaps shift the direction of travel and move the bow away from the south bridge support. 3. The large amount of black exhaust from the ships funnel is the result of main engines restarting after the first attempt to restore power. As a slow speed diesel engine starts, incomplete combustion is common and that is what you are seeing. It has nothing to do with astern propulsion. When there is astern propulsion applied on the prop, there is a paddle wheel effect that will pull the stern in the opposite direction that the prop is designed to turn. That inturn, will bring the bow to starboard where it did impact the bridge. I find most of the other errors, humerous, such as Radar radiating? Good visuals, thin on accurate facts. This was a good attempt, but the lack of understanding of the facts and the inability to understand the fundamentals of seamanship points to the fact that you might be a little outside of your wheel house. John B Hall USMMA 1995, 3/m, QMED Marine Casualty Investigator, LT, USCG
Thankyou for your detailed information and experience... you have given a Wikipedia explanation to what was a confusing and incoherent version that I just listened to
The overhead graphic they kept showing had the ship hitting the wrong pier.😆 Also, the pilot, not an airline pilot? Gee, I thought the Dali was a 747 there for a second.🙄 I hate videos like this.
Don't worry about the bills to Rebuild the Bridge, Bidum got the funds to Handle the cost, He's got the money for everyone and Anything Except the American Citizens.....
Nice question but the American will go ahead and build the bridge but file a lawsuit against the company that owns the chip later.If America can wait until completion of the case then thew will have lost billions and billions of dollars
There is insurance for these incidents. This cost being taken from the Taxpayer is EVIDENCE of an INSIDE JOB sabotage. The pilot of the ship deliberately GUNNED the boat into the support, and puffs of smoke from DYNAMITE charges are visible across the top struts of the bridge. This is a SYMBOLIC for the collapse of America with the NAME of the author of the Star Spangled Banner on it.
Beyond Facts is a very apt name for this channel. As a mariner for nearly 50 years I can say the random montage of utterly unrelated video clips, along with the nearly complete lack of understanding of ships and maneuvering, is truly embarrassing. What made this channel think they had anything useful to offer on a subject they clearly don't understand is a mystery. The cause of the loss of generator power is where the question lies, and will be the focus of the investigation. The behavior of a ship without power and control is what followed, and from initial reports it would appear that most of the actions on the bridge were as good as they could have been. However, the decision to order full reverse is unfortunately the reason for the sharp turn to starboard, as every ship handler knows a single screw backs to port and the bow falls to starboard.
@@Melvinmuttno. You have to modify a truck engine to inject more diesel. They don't do that with slow speed two strokes. "A slow-speed two-stroke crosshead diesel engine directly driving a large slow-turning propeller is today the preferred propulsion arrangement for most merchant ships because of its simplicity, reliability, and lower fuel consumption."
Actually, that's a smoke when the back up power came back on after the Main power went out. It's the backup power that caused the engines to start up causing black smoke .
No the port Authority should be held accountable! they failed to upgrade the bridge protection as the ships got bigger. Yes it had protection for the size of ship in use at the time it was built, but they done sweet FA as the ships got bigger and bigger. but give them their due, they did dredge the channel to get these larger ships under the bridge. they could have saved money by saying NO these sized ships are not allowed under the bridge because it is too shallow. but Come on Man! just think what $15 million dollars a day could make us. just think about the cut of that $15 million dollars the port was making from that in harbour fees, where did all that money go? one thing we know now! it didn't go on upgrading protection on the bridge! now look at how much that negligence is going to cost.
There isn't enough assets if they sold every ship the company owns, empty every bank account, sell any assets, and get the maximum out of the insurance coverage. Maybe they'll bankrupt the company and it will disappear forever. I don't see it covering 10% of the cleanup, let alone building a new bridge.
They gotta have insurance to cover any liabilities they may rack up. I mean look how much we have to pay for insurance just to drive a car down the road
@@mikeibrahim5838 well it worked well enough for 50 years, tugs shouldn't have been needed and likely wouldn't have done much against 100000tons anyway, people with all the experience in the world decided I'm not going to second guess them
In the local Seattle newspaper I noticed there was a letter to the editor from a US Navy retiree who commanded ships just a bit smaller than Aircraft Carrier. He had a great recommendation, keep the tugs in control until after the bridge.
..from what I understand, from some longshoremen I know (in Baltimore,)(I live near Annapolis, MD), they USED TO use tugs til "past the bridge".. and you are absolutely right.. using tugs was deemed "cost prohibitive", so the practice was allowed to be discontinued...
I do not believe the mainstream narrative about this incident anymore. Than I believe the covid shots were one hundred percent safe and effective. The mainstream media and our government lie lie and then lie some more. The MSM Pushes deep state propaganda twenty four hours a day.
So much is wrong in this video. The bridge was almost never tide restricted: the bridge had a max air draft of 185 feet, Dali could easily go under at any time, and tides there are only a foot and a half anyway. It takes a few minutes to restart a marine diesel and even longer to stop the screw before it can go into reverse. Anchors don’t stop ships under way at 8.5 knots, they can only slow them down slightly and maybe pull it off its course.
@hawky2k215 Actually the port (left) side anchor was dropped, this was likely an attempt by the crew to try to slow down the ship as without rudder control there is little else one can do.
@hawky2k215 They weren't, if either one had been dropped, as dark as it was, you would have seen the fireworks/sparks from the anchor chain, not to mention the splash . That anchor is the size of a full size car and a lot heavier.
@hawky2k215 There is video and pictures (the following day) of the port anchor being out, but i think that happened after the ship hit the bridge. Also, I don't believe the main engine was ever down/off. Because if it was down, I don't believe there was nearly enough time to get it back up/running. Everyone that was on that ship, that knows what really happened, Is in (hardcore) damage control mode/evade responsibility mode, under the care of numerous doctors for PTSD and being fitted for neck braces. They're not gonna be talking to anybody other than a highly trained team of corporate lawyers, telling them not to talk to anybody. But that's just my opinion.
Definitely on purpose, the more the MSM and "THEIR" Experts, try to distract us the more deeply we look at the actions of the ship in the last few minutes that they explain away as a ship out of control! Why does this ship suddenly give her engine full speed ahead, (the ship's engine is diesel not electrical, and already warm from running during the passage from the dock to just before the turn, they say (their experts say) the engine requires a start-up procedure which is why all the smoke during the turn! Bulldust! The diesel engine was already running, check the black Box that will prove it) the strong smoke exhaust coincided perfectly with the hard turn to Starboard and the engine smoke continued almost until impact on the target. the ship miraculously straightened the rudder up to prevent the turn from continuing and possibly missing a direct hit on the pier, the more extensive the explanation by their Experts? the less believable it is! The ship turned into the pier under full power, and the ship's diesel engine did not need any electricity to run? (how do you stop a diesel engine when there is no electricity? you can manually stop the flow of fuel to the engine!) gosh, who knew! not the Experts, there is no evidence of dirty fuel either, if dirty fuel was a problem the engine exhaust smoke would give intermittently visible puffs of smoke during the progress towards the bridge? no none of that, the engine was running just fine the ship was at low speed on course until the full speed turn into the bridge pier. killing 6 people their Families need to get a full and honest report of why they died, what's the point of having a Black Box that can mysteriously stop recording just before the turn? This is an evil intentional act. in my humble opinion.
The one thing that bothers me most is why was it announced that it wasn't a cyber attack before there was time to investigate if their actually was. And why did the company sign legal papers adamantly denying fault .
There is good reason why they can announce that with confidence is that it is nearly impossible to ‘hack’ modern ships, even despite the fact she likely had a purely computer controlled engine room. Mostly this is because the automation computers are not on the internet. Even modern ones are still very simple and pretty much are only designed to take readings from the engine room, do math to them, and send signals to various control valves. What is infinitely more likely here is that some combination of factors (loss of cooling water, faulty sensors, clogged lube oil filter, etc.) caused a failure of the main generators and one of the most inopportune time possible. This resulted in a loss of propulsion and steering, and they were unable to regain sufficient control early enough to prevent the accident.
@ 7:40 - first error, dropping the anchor(s) while absolutely one of the correct moves to take, will very rarely quickly stop any vessel of that size moving at 8 knots! That only happens in movie scenes not in real life. Those anchors are designed to hold a ship in place once it is fully stopped. Trying to use it as an emergency brake might work in very rare situations, but for the most part it is simply going to drag the anchor for 1 to 3 nautical miles before the ship stops fully. It might have helped pull the bound report had enough anchor chain been let out but that does not appear to be the case from the video. Your second error is saying that with a loss of power they could not have dropped the anchor. That is absolutely and completely incorrect. Having worked in shipping for many years, the chain lock and the brake on the anchor windlass are manually controlled - before a ship leaves the wharf any electronic or hydraulic automated systems clutches are disengaged so that specifically in a situation like this, the anchors can be dropped with no power available very quickly.
Thank you!! There's so many people spouting complete nonsense, regarding this incident. It's refreshing to see folks that have actual experience & knowledge about the shipping industry, call this nonsense out. 🍻
I still say dropping anchor was a good call by the crew, as if the rudder was unresponsive and momentum kept the ship moving forward, there was little else to do than hope dropping anchor would at least slow the ship down enough to potentially avoid disaster. I mean yeah it didn't work but still better than doing nothing. When you have something that big moving at that speed, any attempt to halt the ship from colliding with something else is welcome.
@@themadoneplays7842 totally agree - every possible attempt to stop should be used. I merely called out his statement about dropping the anchor to "quickly" stop the vessel, but a ~150K Ton ship moving at 8 knots CANNOT just stop.
@@floyd5292 No one's in custody and neither would I have been! I never said shouldn't drop the anchgor, I referred to the comment about it quickly stopping the ship., and said it might work in rare situations. It must be dropped, but as I commented below, with a ~150K ton ship moving at 8 knots, it isn't going to stop it and certainly not quickly.
As a harbor pilot, what did the pilot do correct and what did he do that you would not have done? Just asking. How long were you a harbor pilot, and how long did it take you to be a harbor pilot, and where? Just asking for information, because I am interested. Not to lay blame. I was taught that if I didn't know, ask someone who does.
@@mt3311even as a pilot it’s very difficult to say given so many facts aren’t yet known. The best analogy I can give is imagine being in a canoe paddling down river and you lose the paddle….. you can no longer use any power or steer, you’ll go were the current takes you. On the known facts, I’d applaud the pilot and ship crew for doing everything they could under the circumstances to stop this happening. The quick mayday call saved many lives. I await the NTSB report with great interest.
@@scottM-ws7yo I assumed as much. IO too await the NTSB with interest. I believe it was an accident. The highway workers were victims of circumstance. In the wrong place at the wrong time. I did that work for 10 years, and have worked on bridges. I have been hit at work, though not on a bridge. I feel for them.
Definitely on purpose, the more the MSM and "THEIR" Experts, try to distract us the more deeply we look at the actions of the ship in the last few minutes that they explain away as a ship out of control! Why does this ship suddenly give her engine full speed ahead, (the ship's engine is diesel not electrical, and already warm from running during the passage from the dock to just before the turn, they say (their experts say) the engine requires a start-up procedure which is why all the smoke during the turn! Bulldust! The diesel engine was already running, check the black Box that will prove it) the strong smoke exhaust coincided perfectly with the hard turn to Starboard and the engine smoke continued almost until impact on the target. the ship miraculously straightened the rudder up to prevent the turn from continuing and possibly missing a direct hit on the pier, the more extensive the explanation by their Experts? the less believable it is! The ship turned into the pier under full power, and the ship's diesel engine did not need any electricity to run? (how do you stop a diesel engine when there is no electricity? you can manually stop the flow of fuel to the engine!) gosh, who knew! not the Experts, there is no evidence of dirty fuel either, if dirty fuel was a problem the engine exhaust smoke would give intermittently visible puffs of smoke during the progress towards the bridge? no none of that, the engine was running just fine the ship was at low speed on course until the full speed turn into the bridge pier. killing 6 people their Families need to get a full and honest report of why they died, what's the point of having a Black Box that can mysteriously stop recording just before the turn? This is an evil intentional act. in my humble opinion.
That was the engine exhaust of the main diesel engine. The ship was put into reverse as the pilot tried to stop the ship. In reverse the rudder loses control and the propeller has a siseways force that turned the ship into the bridge pylon. The main issue is that every ship needs to be guided by tugs until the bridge is passed by. There were no tugs.
Exactly why was it not escorted out of the channel by tugs this ship had major problems for days before it sailed engineers had been working on the electrical system as it kept cutting the engine out someone needs to be charged with this
Definitely on purpose, the more the MSM and "THEIR" Experts, try to distract us the more deeply we look at the actions of the ship in the last few minutes that they explain away as a ship out of control! Why does this ship suddenly give her engine full speed ahead, (the ship's engine is diesel not electrical, and already warm from running during the passage from the dock to just before the turn, they say (their experts say) the engine requires a start-up procedure which is why all the smoke during the turn! Bulldust! The diesel engine was already running, check the black Box that will prove it) the strong smoke exhaust coincided perfectly with the hard turn to Starboard and the engine smoke continued almost until impact on the target. the ship miraculously straightened the rudder up to prevent the turn from continuing and possibly missing a direct hit on the pier, the more extensive the explanation by their Experts? the less believable it is! The ship turned into the pier under full power, and the ship's diesel engine did not need any electricity to run? (how do you stop a diesel engine when there is no electricity? you can manually stop the flow of fuel to the engine!) gosh, who knew! not the Experts, there is no evidence of dirty fuel either, if dirty fuel was a problem the engine exhaust smoke would give intermittently visible puffs of smoke during the progress towards the bridge? no none of that, the engine was running just fine the ship was at low speed on course until the full speed turn into the bridge pier. killing 6 people their Families need to get a full and honest report of why they died, what's the point of having a Black Box that can mysteriously stop recording just before the turn? This is an evil intentional act. in my humble opinion.
Why the hard turn to Starboard? All wind and current issues were coming from the Port side, and the Autopilot or Harbour Pilot were adjusting for the wind and current variations that affected the ship's course. the mayday call had been sent and still, the ship continued on the course because the rudder was still working, they had dropped the Port anchor but didn't let out enough chain as shown after the crash the chain is hanging down meaning that it had not been dragging on the bottom. so the Anchor would not interfere with the course change into the Bridge Pier. My understanding of modern-day ships, a ship loses power to the propeller, the ship will continue on the course it was on before the loss of engine power, and the weight and momentum of such a heavy ship will never accidentally turn like the video shows. Remember the ship's electrical supply is from one of several Diesel Generators that the ship's electronic Autopilot controls to the Diesel motors controlling the Hydraulic rams to the Rudder and will keep working keeping the ship on the course set by the Harbour Pilot, remember that the ship was on course to pass under the bridge when the lights were turned off, without electric power to the Autopilot the rudder will remain on the set course while it was adjusting course for any wind or current variations, then when the lights (electric power) came on again the ship auto-pilot would automatically resume the original course settings before the power loss, But! The video showing the sharp turn onto the target had nothing to do with the lights, or Autopilot or wind or currants proving that The HUMAN FINGERPRINT is all over this deliberate turn into the Bridge. Heavy smoke from the engine funnel is caused by a sudden increase in fuel to the engine, providing strong water pushed onto the now hard-turned-to Starboard rudder, then again the ship rudder was adjusted to Port to stop the turn because the ship needed to make a direct hit not a glancing blow against the target. This was intentional closure of Americas 5th biggest port! No question about that! But was it the US Government extremists or their FBI, or CIA! Did Terrorists sneak on board and overpower the crew? Was it blackmail of the Harbour Pilots and captains and engineers, no matter why? It is “who are they” that must be discovered because 6 people are dead because of this deliberate act by some of the People on this ship!!!!!!!
@@RichNoobylol don't I know it, also I'm dyslexic so without spell check I wouldn't be able to say anything, and to cut it short would leave out too many issues that make this intentional ^ people who were killed need a full explanation to their deaths, RIP
@@geoffreytoomey682 Your understanding of modern day ships...ok I think that you think that you're well-informed about modern day ships...we call that the Dunning-Kruger Effect. Why did I just say that? I'm glad you asked. Your claim that some people on the ship did this deliberately is quite a claim, of which you have zero evidence. You watch a video which was recorded at night, and ya think you have it all figured out....and that's your evidence. I'm impressed. If you're as good as you think you are, why haven't I heard of you before? Shouldn't you be in Baltimore working as an investigator on this specific case? But you're not, are ya? Of course you're not. And you won't be anytime soon. I must admit that I did have a good laugh while reading your expert analysis. And for that, I'm eternally grateful.
The only reason the "govt" said they would pay for it. Was to avoid the insurance company doing a proper investigation. Also because our "govt" had something to do with it. Just like 9/11. What are they distracting us from
So much misinformation on this video I would ignore most of it. For example they know the speed of the vessel thanks to AIS and you don’t need power to drop the anchor, unless it has been snubbed in which case you need to haul slightly on the chain to be able to release the snubber, but normally in the harbour environs the snubbers have been removed in case you have to drop the anchor in an emergency and all it takes is for someone to undo the brake
No disrespect to the actual experts who have commented, but it never ceases to amaze me, when incidents like this occur, how many 'experts' burst into print.
Here's the question that needs to be answered. How long was it known the boat was without power? As a port city Baltimore had to have tugboats docked nearby. Why weren't they used to divert it from hitting the bridge? Had that been done this wouldn't even be a news story. Who dropped the ball?
I don’t know how some of you people get so far in life without wandering into traffic. That’s the smoke coming out of ship’s stack when they put it into full reverse.
The MAGA mob is sus. Conspiracy theories are for nut jobs like MTG. The other bridge built at the same time this bridge is the Betsy Ross Bridge, and it has massive concrete dolphins protecting it from ships.
Main engine start fist by means of compressed air and it blows inside the engine room and that smoke billowing at the smokestack comes from the auxilliary engine that goes on and off
Pray what??? Sadly Becky, once your last breath has been taken, no amount of praying will change your eternal destiny. Eternal life with God through the shed blood of Jesus Christ for those who received him as their savior. Eternal damnation for those lost without God. Not really sure what "religion" teaches you to pray for "souls passing into the other world", but the Bible clearly states, "All have sinned and fallen short of the Glory of God" And, " There is no other name whereby men can be saved, but by the name of Jesus Christ".
You think? I think you should take a look closer to home, say like the port owners and the port Authority. they are responsible for the safe navigation of the port. they failed in there duty. Ships have got bigger over the years, the protection of the bridge might have met regulations when it first was built. But the owners and port Authority failed to keep up with the times and to upgrade the protection for the bridge, thus using your words it was there carelessness that help with this accident. did no one ask the question, what would happen if one of these super heavies were to hit this important bridge? Not it was just greed for the green back, once they knew that they would have to dredge the channel and that these super heavies could only sail at certain times, they knew the bridge could be hit, but that didn't stop then saying No the ships can not go pass the bridge. they knew building a new dock downstream would cost billions, compared to building new protection for the bridge which would have cost less, but doing that would be dead money, but not no more, now it is going to cost an arm and a leg to rebuild the bridge, but that is American short sightedness for you, make as much money over the shortest period of time. Well that's worked out until now, but not only have you lost the bridge but also the $15 million a day the port was bringing in, not including the loss of traffic on the bridge. so tell me who were the careless ones again?
@michaelgoble8200 they are still responsible they should of service to make sure ready for travel...tax payers not responsible period they should have insurance for such accidents...
Why did they lose power. Was it poor equipment?Did someone accidently interrupt a breaker or was there a short in the system? We know it lost power, but why.
RIP to the workers who perished. I grew up in Baltimore and last crossed the Key bridge about a month ago. The Key bridge was old but majestic. Informative video. Sad for the workers 😥.
@@ChrisFord-wh1gl I think he means the construction workers doing maintenance at the time on the bridge. Put the crack pipe down before writing on youtube
Majestic? Possibly. But old-fashioned design, not up to today's standards? Certainly. Like a great deal of US infrastructure, it needed replacing decades ago. But the money is being spent on crappy woke gender fluidity programs, affirmative action putting incompetents in jobs they can't handle, unscientific Net Zero policies etc etc.
Umm, this is BS as far as the explanation of the collision goes. It is not unkown what speed she was going at and 8 to 10 knots is way too fast. There was not a 2 knot current in the direction you claimed. This is all BS.
@@Defects420 Yes, I do; I have been on a few ships as an engineer through that part. I know the procedure very well. It seems like you don't have a clue about the procedure.
2 questions 1. Why won't the shipping company claiming on the insurance? Is it because they're doing an investigation? 2 Didn't the bridge just take out A big Insurance policy on that bridge. If I'm not mistaken the owner that bridge. Was also an owner of another company or something that had a major disaster where collected insurance.
The boat restarted more than once, only saw the smoke puffs at the end. Why did it not happen the first time? Secondly, I heard that smoke rises like that on a diesel vehicle when one pushes the peddle for fast speed or to speed up quickly. True or False? It also looks like the vessel SPED UP at that time. See it?
Did the ships engineer switch clean port fuel to the dirtier, ocean going bunkering fuel too soon and cause engine failure before exiting territorial waters?
@@funnyguy8728 The ship lost electricity power that doesn't stop the Diesel engine though? maybe the ship was put into reverse? if it was revved up and astern, this is what happens, the ship is travelling forward at about 8 knots, still on course to clear under the bridge before the smoke from the engine exhaust attempts to stop the troubled ship using full speed astern, the ship would begin to slow but remain on course, the video is clear enough that the turbulence created in a full astern effort should be visible too, no the Black Box will tell if the ship was going forward or in reverse, that is exactly why ships and aircraft have Black boxes, anyway diesel engines don't require any electricity to run, and if your electricity fails you just manually turn of the supply of fuel to the engine, no matter, the Black box will have all these actions recorder
The real blame is the state DOT or bridge authority for not installing pier protection devices that you see on most other bridges. It is not uncommon for ships to hit bridges but there should be protection bollards, dolphins, fenders etc basically large mass of concrete designed to take on the ships impact ahead of the bridge piers
There is no more to this story, except it is just an accident. If the bridge had Dolphins around the principal supports, the bride still would be standing.
Simple. The smoke is from the smoke stack from the ship. When power came back on the Captain attempted to restart the engine. When u start a diesel engine on a ship the initial start creates a billow of smoke from the smoke stack. Unfortunately the ship lost power again causing the engine to fail again. The captain then dropped the port side bow anchor but too little too late. The ship was victim to the wind from the port side and the river current as the rudder and engine were dead. Now was it a cyber attack that shut.down the power? Possible. But don't think it was the captain or port pilot.
Emergency generators cannot [by regulation and design] face a reverse power problem: no system is permitted to be installed allowing loadsharing with other generators. What happens is changeover, managed by a dead bus relay. The generator breaker will have an interlock to prevent paralelling.
@@renmuffett The ship has an emergency hydraulic system; one big issue is they need to wait for the backup generator to start to switch to the emergency hydraulic system for the rudder. And with no engine power, the rudder will be of little use. Yes, if you had enough time and distance, it would slowly turn the ship some, but not enough to avoid the collision. The vessel is too heavy for the rudder to make much difference without main propulsion.
I don’t see how anyone could survive from a fall from a bridge with all that heavy steel. I pray for the families of the ones lost in this accident. I was surprised to hear that there were construction workers that worked at night on a bridge which may be normal in some states.
Coast Guard from the 1980s...an anchor regardless of size dropped on the port side in a sentiment rich area like Baltimore harbor will not stop a ship the size of the Dali and no Pilot would think that. At best, the manuveur would counter any starboard movement of the vessel and hopefully shift it slightly port again as it drug along the floor. It is not stopping it at all. One of many things I can't quite understand given these facts.
Well that's the thing, I don't think they were trying to stop the ship with the anchor, but at the very least attempt to try to slow it down. If the engines and the rudders were not responding, and they were having difficulty with the back-up generators, then yes, I still argue dropping anchor was a good call.
its not just the big anchor on the end of the chain that holds the ship in place its the weight of anchor chain on the seabed, all the anchor will do in these circumstances is be dragged through the silt on the seabed, the ship weighs 100000TONS so it wasn't going to stop until it hit something really solid, like 9000tons of bridge
@@themadoneplays7842 With a ship of that size and weight going 9 knots, it will take a long time to slow the vessel down to any degree with the anchor. All the ship will do is drag the anchor along as it very slowly slows the ship. They had very little they could have done. They just were at the wrong location at the wrong time.
@@stephenludlum9746 Well yes there wasn't much dropping anchor was going to do, but I still think it was the right call considering how fast this all happened. Like, even if they had emergency steering and the like and even attempted it, the ship's momentum was too big to do much of anything. Every little bit helps in a situation like this. Currently, my theory is that I think they dropped anchor as an extra way to steer the ship away from a direct head on collision with the bridge, and it seemed to have (mostly) worked, but still the ship was just too far to the right for it to have more effect. Also even some slowdown of a ship like this is a good idea especially if it's carrying hazardous materials, any higher speeds could have made this far worse as if the collision hit the wrong way it could have ignited the cargo. I mean, imagine if those hazardous materials ignited and exploded? Yeah, the bridge would be the least of your worries.
Not missing. As the power went out some data went blank that’s all. The bridge voice recordings didn’t stop at all which shows the black box was still working
Your an idiot as to the entire power loss the data was not recorded during that time but the small back up power to the box was able to still record the voices but nothing else as the small backup power supply can't power everything in a situation of complete power loss. Jesus you kids need to go get some real schooling rather than learning from tiktok or youtube. 🤣🤣
As a lay person, it seems to me that the major question to be answered is why the sequence of power losses? Someone suggested that the type of fuel was being changed from the low sulfur type required to enter the port to the less expensive, high sulfur type that would be used at sea. Did the change of fuel cause interruptions in the delivery of fuel by the fuel pumps to the engine? Was this the first time such a change was attemped while underway?
Actually such exchanges are very common on ships, it's a practice that's been going on for decades. Still the chances of something going wrong with the interchange is still a possibility, something as simple as a clogged nozzle can lead to catastrophe. I mean that happens with airplanes so why not boats? Yes the chances are very low, but that's why they are always so surprising.
Very yes and crap can't arrive fast enough! A young female whale died here last yr in the port of Montreal while swimming back to sea, hit by a boat, they couldn't stall the lakers a day?
Team Biden announced no foul play after just an hour or so - so there we have it, the old senile man knows it all - nothing to see here -move on!!! Says it all really!!! Don't believe government CIA propaganda - it's all BS - safe and effective!!!!
How far is are the tug boats required to escort the ship. In such a tight area you would think they would be required to at least follow until ships are in open water.
My 2 cents on black smoke: They restarted engine..they put engine Full Astern, engine overspeed and shut everything down. The big question is-why aren't tugs escorting very large vessels for bridges and sand bars transits.
@@Louise180All these video clip armchair experts want a fall guy to pin the blame onto. Even the pilots are just doing their job. Follow the money. See who benefits from this tragedy.
Rudder at port and an astern command is the best explanation heard yet for why the bow went starboard toward the pier. But wow what a rookie kind of mistake if that’s what occurred.
@@stephenludlum9746yeah right .. that’s why it changed direction in the wrong direction when the power returned and the stacks were rolling coal. They threw it in reverse and didn’t correct for rudder. And that’d be negligent, but other explanation leans closer to foul play.
Poorly designed bridge designed to cope with traffic density many decades ago, and structurally unsound. There have been previous instances of this style bridge collapsing and authorities ignore it until it's too late.
@@johnt.848 Actually the bridge itself is not a problem here, according to what we know so far the bridge itself was in prime condition and not your old rustbucket in need of replacement, sure the bridge had a construction crew on it but mainly to fix pot holes. The real issue is that the base of the bridge had little to no protection from vessels like this, as such things didn't exist in the 1970s. I will agree with several other videos on the matter that say that there should have been better barriers around the bridge, but there was literally no way to foresee something like this from happening. No one has a magic crystal ball that could foresee such an event and hindsight is always 20/20.
@@themadoneplays7842 Clearly you don't know much about bridge design and the inherent faults that come with that type of structure. There's a reason they are no longer made that way, and history tells us why.
@@johnt.848 Yeah, but even if they made the bridge with modern standards in mind, there's a chance it still could have fallen. It's still a huge ship we are dealing with here, roughly twice the size of titanic.
I saw a video and there was a ball of fire like an explosion and now can’t find that video- It looked like the boat went under the bridge and backed up and hit it but like I said that video is not there now
I would stop obsessing about this.. and look around to see what they are trying to distract you from. THERE is where you will find the real cause of this 'accident'.
Fantasy. How can the makers of this video have so much disrespect and feel entitled to insult that they feel at liberty to publish such nonsense, shame on you
Even though it's highly possible it couldn't have been a Cyber attack because those ships lose power all the time like that . your eyelids are getting heavy, you'll believe what I say
Ships do not lose power all the time like that. If that were the case, they would be drifting all over the globe instead of being piloted under control.
An emergency stop of a ship that weight takes a few miles. Dropping the anchor is like putting your foot out of the door and onto the road. when in a car doing 60Mph. Yes, it will slow you down. A little.
I'm not sure a boat can make a bridge collapsed like this one.Did I mean if it was this easy to collapse?Then people shouldn't be on it just begin with
It can definatly happen and it's happened before. The issue is the bridge columns should have be protected and they were not. The columns hold the load of the bridge and if one fails, then like a sesaw the others follow. Check out jeffostoff explanation of it. He is an engineer on RU-vid.
@@Dana-jb6ej Only in the case of a badly designed bridge like this type where all sections are related to each other for support and DO NOT rely on the pylons for support. Ideally a ship can take out a section if designed correctly and the rest remain supported by the pylons.
That was actually my thought too, was this bridge built before we had breakaway bridges? I'm not even sure that would have helped but it makes you wonder why one support pillar would collapse the entire bridge.
Wrong, you drop anchor in a situation like this to either stop the ship or at the very least slow it down. I say its the latter as there was no way in hell this ship was going to stop in time.