Bambu X1C - PEI Plate is offically RIDICULOUS with ABS filament 

ABS releasing when cool is not the problem. The problem is getting it to stick, stay stuck, and not warp or crack.

I'm new to 3D printing, so all I've ever known is PEI plates. And auto-bed leveling. And not shuttling SD cards back and forth. And printing in more than one color. I feel fortunate to have skipped over the growing pains of 3D Printing.

I switched to PEI over a year ago on my older machines (FLSUN, Artillery Genius - when their glass bonded plates failed to hold, and Ender 5 Pro). I've never looked back.

It's equally remarkable for PLA and PETG. I have a third party textured PEI plate, but it seems to work just as well. It's a far cry from the old days of trying to level your printer by hand and get your print to stick to glass (or borosilicate)-- sometimes it would stick so well you'd think the plate would break, and sometimes it would slide off somewhere around the 10th layer. The PEI plate even seems to auto-calibrate the extrusion for me successfully, in spite of Bambu's warning that it might not.

The Textured PEI plate makes things so much easier but be sure to clean it with a drop of dish soap, water, and a sponge to clean it from time-to-time. The oils from your hand will eventually mess with first layer adhesion. I have one on my X1C, my Neptune 4 Plus, and all my old Ender 3 units. I wish I had one back in 2017 when I started printing, life would have been a breeze.

I have a T500 with a 500x500mm PEI plate. When the print is done and the plate is cooling, you can hear the noises from across the room that the print makes as it separates from the PEI plate as the plate cools.

You are entirely right, and your results are correct, but with the tower example you would have had to bend the plate to get it out those definitely could have broke loose super easy by taking it out. I have the p1s and it’s great the pie is great but flawed example

Now that you touched it, go was it with dish soap and a scrubby and keep your oily fingers off it!!! For real ;)

I love the textured PEI for this reason, I like the finish on the smooth better, but my new fave is Lightyear’s G10 Garolite plate for the X1C, semi gloss finish, no glue stick, falls off similarly after cooling down. There’s some new ones I haven’t tried yet too like these “dipped” plates that have PEI plus some kind of epoxy, the only thing I think is weird though about them is that you can’t use IPA gotta use water. With the G10 though you use IPA

Welcome sir, we've been waiting for you.

All of the printers I have bought come with a PEI plate. You can also get a PEO plate that's even better and leave your prints smooth like glass and even with a hologram embedded into it.

same for the glass plates with the dots on it - you can literally blow on your print to get it off the plate after cooldown

Yeah textured PEI + ABS is like a miracle, it works great for other filaments too, but for abs its another level

Interesting. I'm seeing the opposite. I just printed ABS for the first time on the PEI plate that came with my X1P, and removing the prints is very, very difficult.

I thought the max temperature allowable for the magnetic sticker is not more than 60C?

Did you only use PEI plate? Or also 3D printing stick or something else?

I have a pei plate and my abs does not stick on it

also on prusa textured sheets

Yup, they can take those cool plates and dump them in the trash. I have two PEI plates and they just work.

what are you guys using for bed adhesion? i use hairspray. i find without it the ABS just doesn't STAY stuck

I have the X1C PEI plate and am new to 3d printing. Is all the "glue stick" and "cool plate" and "plate stickers" now all in the past? Just get a textured PEI plate and make sure you keep it clean. (I've been using windex, and no problems).? Or am I missing a use case?

Hi! I'm just curious, what temp are you setting the plate to? Cause I can only get proper adhesion if i heat soak the printer and set it over 100°C (with Bambulab ASA, which as a default setting of 90°C). I'm also meticulous about not touching the plate with bare hands and already cleaned it a couple of times with dish soap, so I'm fairly confident it's not a "oil contamination problem". Cheers

Hello Papatone, could you tell us your Print settings for the pei plate?

I've only been using PLA for my first month with the printer, but I tried ABS with the engineering plate (the other side of the same plate I use for PLA) and it was a disaster. Well, it just seemed completely off, but I'm using the settings that automatically read in when I load ABS into the AMS. The first layer seemed fine, but then it got less and less accurate, so I stopped after 6 or 7 layers. Any suggestions?

if you buy now x1c you have pei?