Bane the Lord of Darkness | Forgotten Realms Lore | The Dungeoncast Ep.362 

8:46 Actually Bane is worshipped by Thay ever since the Mighty Lich Szass Tam became Lich King of Thay and established a nobility of undeath. This is the state of Thay the last time it was in a novel

2:18 BAALdur's Gate 3!? Of course, it was in front of our faces the whole time!

"unforgiving wrath when aroused" I didn't know I had so much in common with Bane!

Thanks again to William and Brian for inviting me on to talk about another member of the Dead/Dark Three.

Im surprised his son’s name wasn’t darkness. After all, he was reborn in Darkness, some might even say molded by it

Bane stayed because Bane Cares. Bane, Moreover than Good Ole Asmo, wants a world in which stability and security are a reality for all. Bane recognized that most people are venal, weak fools who would either fail utterly in their duty to protect society or ruin it through sheer incompetence. Bane knows that the only way a better future could ever be built is through hard work and was rational enough to realize that the best way to make this happen was to force others to do it. Bane teaches us that kindness and compassion are the province of self deluded hypocrites whose comfort is nonetheless bought by the suffering of others through the actions of other, stronger beings.

I was wondering what would break first - your spirit…or your body.

Always love seeing Ben, love that guy

Man if the wanted to make sure there was no confusion between different versions of Bane they should have named the new one Obane

I've always had my conquest paladin as a worshiper of asmodeus but bane may be a better option

Thank you very much for limiting BG3 spoliers because it could have gotten spolier heavy easily. I have been trying to explain the Dead Three to a friend before they begin BG3 and this is a great intro to Bane's lore. Another fantastic lore episode 👏

Fzoul was also know for making his signature pasta

I absolutely love using Bane and his underlings in Undermountain as much as possible. Thank you for this.

BEN!!! Hell yeah, glad you're back man.

I love the idea that Bane is so powerful because he plays both sides of his divine portfolio. Undeniably, he is the patron god of oppressors and conquerors, drawing strength from those who call upon him to subjugate others. But, by the same token, he is also the god of strife and is heralded by those who would break their chains and overthrow chaos to impose their own order and forment their own conquest of their oppressors, if only for them to then become just as bad tyrants themselves as those they deposed. It kind of plays into the idea of The Dead Three where they all try to big brain meme their way into having the dominant portfolio. Bhaal knows that with the power of murder, he can usurp and depose all who stand in his way, even gods. Myrkul knows that all things must die, even gods, and the power of the dead is power over all. Bane knows that strife and conflict plague all beings, even gods, and the power over that strife will see him draw power from all beings in creation.

47:40 they are both the same gods! Lathander had to revert to his old title during the spellplague. This is covered by several novels

Good job getting 50 thousand subs guys you deserve it best d and d channel out there

Ben, the god of "I won't get into it" on everything I wanted more details on lol guess I got to check out his channel.

Another great one! As cool as the Dark Three mythos is, though, I'll admit that I've always preferred the flavor of Greyhawk's Hextor in the role of the god of tyranny. He has a cool "evil twin" vibe with his good brother, Heironeous, that seems to reflect the all-consuming nature of a paladin's oath vs. a blackguard's villainy. Plus, Hextor is just a wildly metal name. ;)

Love this type of content guys!!

I know it's way too late to change course, but it would've been rad to have baernaloths in for spooktober. When a balor tortures, it is because doing so brings them joy. When a pit fiend tortures, it is because doing so furthers a grander plot or scheme. When a baernaloth tortures, it is because doing so makes them better at torturing others.

Please do a waterdeep city episode, love yalls take on everything, and i wanna dm a city campaign in a month or two

Would love to have an episode, hopefully with Diggy, about the differences between Asmodeus and Bane. In my mind they seem to overlap a lot and would love to hear how I could differentiate them more in my campaign.

Just caught up with all 363 episodes after just under a year listening and DMing. Such an excellent show for getting ideas to take into your games. And of course, prime dick jokes. Don't fart in the underdark.

Ben and bane! Whoo!

4e Bane existed during the Dawn War which predates Forgotten Realms Bane. That's why they're different.

I have a Lawful good character who worships Bane, one of the funnest characters I've ever run.

Helm was the favorite child XD

So Bane birthed Invader Zimm, that tracks.

Bane?

Shout out to Demogorgon

The Avatar Saga is a great novel series about the Time of Troubles starring Bane and Fzoul as villainous side characters. Fun read if you have the time!

You should do a give away with some cool goodies from your listeners. Not sure how that could work but would be cool to win custom dice or art made by people more skilled than I. Thanks for the content!

Interesting take on Bane's selling points for the non-evil. I didn't know about that, thank you. Bane, as with the rest of the FR, got ruined for me with the incessant rewritings, retcons, and revivals that took all dramatic weight out of momentous events. If death has no lasting effect, it's not impressive. As for what he's doing now, I like y'all's theories, but I also suggest the following that could go together: 1. There is something in FR that he wants and can't get if he backs out. 2. Like Jergal, he's bored and gave up power to feel real challenge again, to spice things up. 3. If the other gods are now at arms length from the realms, that means he can try to finally take thek out of the realms entirely, because they can't directly stop him anymore. Thanks for making a tired character interesting for a while!

There's nothing about this description of beIN that stops me from doing my impression of DC's bane using him

I really appreciate that mtg made him a sexy twunk.

whit not listning and all the sunderings... AO EO.. the over god sounds a lot like Hasbro

AO is that minecraft server administrator who goes AWOL for months before porting the server to a much newer Minecraft edition with no warning.

Like all of my ex-girlfriends this all boils down to struggle and sadness...

50:40 I would also like to point out why subtrifuge rather then militaristic conquest is a better M.O for Bane from a cold rational perspective. You have the entire government fully intact, political offices and officials to fill their very roles and niches in societies, and some undoubtedly curry more favorite amongst their societies then others. And suddenly having one powerful voice preaching the gospel of Bane, to large crowds of people and entire communities, towns, cities. And not by strong arming him, but rather him either putting a facade or belief in it. Can have much better results for Bane. And it can help point out which noble families in this town or rich merchants who are believers in what faiths, or dark masters they serve. And use it for blackmail purposes, whos going to be loyal, who maybe persuaded to follow or obey their laws. And whom they'd need to cull. Secondly: Infastructure. You can have workshops, forges, foundaries, libraries full of knowledge, wisdom and all manner of other educational purposes kept intact and safe. Markets and undisputed trade links between cities, towns n villages. That way its easier to control and in a way, able for Bane to shift and mold it however he desires or fits his M.O. Third: Laws and economy. Consolidation of economy is a very touchy subject and not very well spoken, but being able to maybe stabilize a realms economy by introducing a foreign currency to replace a rampant inflation or declining value currency thats specific to Banes operatives, with the boosts to industries. Such as maybe a new influx of raw resources and food, can help bolster his operatives. Provide cheaper food and other resources to his other operations.. And wage war economically against other powers against other neighboring realms to try and weaken them. Just like in Baldur's Gate 1 with the iron shortage. All done by Baal's agents to horde as much iron as they could, sabotage caravans and pillage mines by releasing hordes of naturally found depth creatures. To kobolds and bandits or their own agents to purposefully sabotage operations to weaken the realm and push forth their own agenda's and concessions of legistlative. And laws cannot be overstanded or understated with how affective they can be on populaces. Imagine a crier comes into town on horse with letters and announcements, after showing off to the rulers, and they have to let the crier makes the announcement. Tells the inhabitants that followers of "X good dieties" tried to stage a coup against the King, and were stopped and destroyed. Their faith is outlawed, their churches, shrines etc destroyed." Talk about how war between two faiths ans how it maybe lead to a massacre of a certain amount of city followers by fake faith followers, who serve bane, did this to give justification to start literal witch hunts against other faiths. And now suddenly you have fear mongering of the people on your side looking for your protection. And maybe you dangle the less freedoms for higher security against other powers. (Look to Russia for that example with Putin. Or China.) Theres alot of reasons why I believe Bane would swap his M.O from being a war mongering combatative, as he's undoubtedly gotten older and wiser. And realized that he can't match martial might against all the good gods in any real capacity. And must use his clandestine operations to achieve his goals. And now you mobilized the people

Was here, October 27, 2023.

Okay hold on. So what you are saying in regard with Meglupyat, the guy who conquered the goblinoids and he himself was dominated by Bane. The same guy who has his waterfall of Shithole, as Brian called it. Megylupyate who is about dominating and control, under forced dominance under Bane. And who in turn has to work under a guy called Baal. Meg is a super switch whos got alot of really messed up and gross kinks. 😂😂😂😅