Final battle of Barbarians (Netflix) cut to Heilung's Svanrand Svanrand, Heilung 2019 (Futha) - All audio Barbarians, Netflix 2020 - All video Heilung: / @heilung
@@MountainGuerrilla Cherusker, Chatten, Semnonen fight in Teutoburg, not one Celt. The Germanics means the Celts were to soft, not Man enough! - Tacitus/Germania. Thats why they grab their South German Land, the Land were i come from, Hessen, with our ancestors the Chatten !
@@MrHeidiHigh never said there were Celts there. But this point in Time Caesar had wiped out the Guals/Celts throughout great er Gaul. your ancestors were facing a Roman force that had been fighting pitched battles for years against the Celts/Gauls. The Germanic Hordes were just too far from Roman held Gaul. The Germans were also far too vicious for the Germans to defeat.
@@bobster708 Nevertheless it's totally wrong and It could have been really easy to make a better job. I mean, I'm not English and I know my spoken english is bad. If I have to write something "not for friends" I ask for help to people who knows it better than me...
Hell yeah those old times, nice comment dude! Looks like they have more important things to take care, instead of wasting their time looking at a rectangular piece of metal with glass that displays lights with shapes.
@@derezzedzombie I speak German thanks to him, and not some sort of French. The culture and language of Gaul was annihilated by Rome. There might be some remnants in Brittany but else it is gone. He saved our (Germanic) civilization.
@@bluerisk Yes, without Arminius Germany and the Scandinavian countries would be underdeveloped shitholes like South- and Central Italy. Celto-Germanic civilization was always superior to the Roman-Hellenic... in the Iron Age they were able to dominate the Celts only because they had larger population due to the milder climate in southern Europe.
@@sirpercarde709 you and la Bortoli must be dreaming: more like many dogs and hyenas vs some LIONS! Even massacring women and children didn´t help " germanicus " to subjugate Arminius and his followers! No matter what roman propaganda made of it, just compare the outcome of his uprising against, let´s say, the outcome of Vercingetorix´ uprising. Or the uprising of Boudicca. Do you see the difference?
@@alessandrobortoli4761 ok and CURRENT United States is not a ringing endorsement for a fallen empire. All empires fall, because they are inherently meant to.
In a way that's a good thing. At least we've tamed ourselves enough that save the minor bit of actual psychopaths in the world, the majority of us aren't always ready to kill each other.
Augustus had been so shaken by what happened that he decreed that Rome should never again attempt to expand beyond the natural borders of the Rhine, the Danube and the Euphrates. And the fact that he was Augustus-pater patriae-meant that his advice was not easily set aside. The fact that Trajan became ill and died campaigning beyond the Euphrates probably reiterated it. This meant that Arminius’ victory set the border between the Germanic and Latin worlds. It’s a border that pretty much remains set in the same spot today. ground.Tiberius,Augustus’ successor, allowed his nephew,Germanicus to attempt a re-conquest (14-16 CE).Germanicus won some successes but suffered losses to his fleet due to storms off the North Sea.Eventually,Tiberius re-called him and stopped the campaign-probably because he feared a repeat of Varus’ disaster in 9 CE.Or maybe he felt there just wasn’t enough in Germania to justify the expense of even a successful campaign. Later rulers made occasional punitive expiditions-the most successful of which was Maximinus’ campaign of 236 CE.The Rhine remained the northern border until the western empire ended in the 5th century.Whether it would have made much difference even if Rome had actually made the Elbe the border is doubtful.There was no shortage of warlike Germanic tribes east of the Elbe as well.And these tribes could have destroyed an empire based on the Elbe too.
Tiberius also feared Germanicus' popularity with the soldiers after his string of victories. The expense associated with the campaigning was also an important factor, but by the time Germanicus was called back most Romans considered their loss at Teutoburg avenged. The eagles were restored, the dead buried, Arminius' wife captured, several German towns sacked and client kingdoms re-established with several nations beyond the Rhine. The Romans encountered many warlike peoples, but they would overcome them if their land was valuable and proximate enough. Popular history is right to recognize the martial valor of the Germanic tribes, but were they more warlike than the Celts, Dacians, Illyrians, Iberians, etc? The fact that the Germans survived unconquered has to have contributed post-facto to their reputation, but these other peoples lived in territory more desirable to the Romans and more accessible to the major population centers near the Mediterranean Sea from which the Romans would draw and supply their military from
@@sickjuicysjamshack3580 Oh yeah, Germanicus was a really interesting general. Sometimes called the Wolf sent by Mars, himself, if im not mistaken. Shame thought that he was betrayed later by his own men.
The legions or Romans had incredible staying power. They lost battles but usually won their wars. Interesting to note that after Cannae, Carrhe, Teutoberger Wald, the Legions came back ready and smashed the opposition. I did not know of Rome's revenge after Carrhe until reading about it on u tube. Scipio Africanus finished Hannibal. Germanicus got his title from defeating the Germanic tribes under Arminius. An incredible machine. In England there is much admiration for Roman civilization. There were many benefits.
@@paulfletcher2029 But Romans never made in Germania. And Roman were horrible for everyone. They destroyed Britons, Gauls, others celtic tribes, Dacians, Phoenicians both in Carthage and in middle east and Phoenicians had great culture. Good they deserved end from 410 AD to fall to had give golds to barbarians to survive. To be extorted till they didn't have anything. It was great to see everyone pressing on Rome. Geiseric of Vandals became sea faring oriented very fast and they captured antient port of Carthage, Visigoths were strong, Ostrogoths were strong, Franks, Angles, Saxons, Jutaes, Burgundians, Langobards etc... plus Huns
The monument for this epic battle is located in Detmold (North/ West Germany). It is dedicated to Arminius (German: Hermann) , the leader of the Germanic tribes. It showes Arminius/ Hermann above Teutoburg forest, sword up in the sky and the shattered Roman eagle unter his left foot.
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@RobbyOnTheWay The producers actually don't know shit about the germanic tribes. If they hadn't had help from advising historians the show would have been shit.
Although I'm happy that someone actually made a show about the topic finally, I would have preferred a show from producers who actually have passion for the topic and don't just try to make a german version of "Vikings"
@@kaiserchillhelm4457 Vikings is a shit show, made Up Places and people, and the chronology is pure fiction. Btw the Scandinavian tribes where Germanic, in fact a warrior fighting against Varus 3 legions, would have understood Scandinavian and vice versa.
And more fighting I wanted to see so much more of the battle especially the more important historical shit like arminius and his scout on their horses upon a ridge showing the Roman general that “it was safe” and that initialized the March into the forest and the fight lasted days the trail the romans made through the forest was extremely long and you could not hear men dying at the ends just faint screams until you met your own fate... it was so much more violent and epic in real life
This show needs at least non toilet paper armor for the start. Hollywood crap idea of armor as in all other shows - that is there just for the looks. Guess what... Armor worked and thats why it was used.
@@goodbanter4427 well he's not wrong. Augustus Ceasar was his name after he became emperor. He even took the name gaius Julius ceasar after he received his enharitence.
"Ah, things must be going good in Germania. I gave Varus three whole legions though, just to be sure. Can't be too careful nowadays, even with barbarians."
Still Germanicus taught the great unwashed tribes a salutary lesson after Varus's defeat. Two standards out of three recaptured as well. Quite the lesson l should think
Thank you for making this friend. The violence and drama is actually quite artistic and romantic in this show. The amount of emotion and personal conviction that was present there with the hand to hand slaughter is heart stopping to think about.
3 overconfident legions: check A naive, not-so-good leader: check A romanized barbarian hero who still feels for his people: check Forest to combat the testudo formation: check You've qualified for total annihilation.
I am not sure if the legionaries were overconfident as to say. The Roman soldiers have heard about the last conquest before that happened and heard tales of the "Barbaric" and "Unconquerable" Germans of the North-East, and the sight of deep forests and lashes away from anything they had back at home actually demoralized them alot, so it was quite the opposite..
Varus was one of the few great generals at the time,i doubt such a smart person like Augustus would put a retard to defend the north from barbarian attacks.
The leader was actually good. Varus had previous military experience and had acquitted himself well. He had governed provinces and commanded armies. He was on the fast track, the emperor trusted him with difficult missions. People blame Varus for being bad at his job, which takes away from how damn good Arminius actually was. He pretended to be Varus' friend for years, keeping his true intentions hidden all the while. He had Roman military training and knew all their strengths and weaknesses. The show Barbarians really does Varus dirty and ignores the actual sources we have about him. He was not a bumbling fool but one of the more competent and trusted agents of Rome at the time.
@Ryan Sharp No, not funny at all. Heavy armour, cavalry units and engines of war are absolutely unsuitable for sylvan warfare. What came on top of that were the facts that the thickness of the Germanic forests forced the Romans to walk in long rows of individual soldiers instead of marching as organised units and that the weather was simply dreadful, rainy and stormy. You cannot possibly maintain order and discipline under such conditions, which was exactly what Arminius had anticipated when he lured the Romans away from the safe roads into the forests and into a series of well-planned ambushes in which he gradually wore out and decimated the exhausted Roman legions.
So chances are that ancestors in both of your bloodlines did put a brutal stop at the Roman expansion, GGs ( Teutoburg here + 9th Legion in Caledonia )
@@MrHeidiHigh Tiwaz wasnt a rune in teutonic deities, Tiwaz was the chief sky god and the god of war eventually overtime "Wodan" became their war god and inherited Tiwaz's roles. And then eventually the norse turned Wodan to Odin.
Guerilla warfare makes its first major impact, romans virtually impregnable in open field, totally fault of Varus though. Romans got revenge but stopped at Germania anyway
@Velsen Fest Partia defeated Romans...but how many times romans captured and sacks Partia's capitol and how many times parthians captured roman capitol (Rome or Constantinople) ?
"Guerilla warfare makes its first major impact" Iberians, and particularly Lusitanians had already used guerilla warfare against the Romans a hundred years earlier to great impact actually. It took the Romans a very, very long time to actually fully pacify the Iberian Peninsula because of guerilla tactics to which the Romans had a very hard time countering. Same with the Gauls, but they didnt had much success. The Romans themselves used guerilla warfare against the carthaginians, when they were the weakest side in the Punic Wars.
It goes even deeper than this, since the lyrics are made of names of Norse Valkyries, who would choose fallen warriors and carry them to Valhalla. Fits pretty well with the video indeed
Everything I know about battle...I learned from you. -- What do we fight for? I often asked you that. Some fight for what used to be. And others for what is to come. Or for love We fight for honor. We fight for glory. We fight for our freedom. Some fight for their children. Still others fight for their gods. The key thing is that we can only win if we're in complete control of our emotions. If we have a crystal-clear strategy. You must maintain order in your ranking while destroying that of the enemy. Whatever we fight for...we pay the price in blood. We all die...the guilty...and the innocent. And when all is lost...you still need the help of the gods. Your impregnable armor became your largest burden. But the most important thing...is to recognize your enemy's greatest weakness. And bring all your strengt down on this point. -Take my armor. Are you sure, Dominus? You are a free man. Get out of here. And your biggest weakness...was your trust in me. I ask my self...What were you fighting for? And was it worth it? Pater... PATER!!! You never understood... that we might want a different life than you. To believe differently, feel differently, and think differently than you.
@@SelfProclaimedEmperor The Romans got beaten quite a few times by the Germanic tribes in open battles so you cant know that for sure. Plus a great part of the Roman army was also Germanic because the Romans had a hard time produce soldiers themself. In reality the Romans had major problems with only a few germanic tribes. Just imagine if all germanic tribes had united against the Romanempire would have fell very fast since only a few of the Germanic tribes conquered the Romans themself. Greetings from the north.
@@BirkaViking Rome didn't start to recruit large numbers of barbarians until well into its weak state, some time in the late 4th century AD. The most famous instance of the Germanics attacking Roman legions in the open is the battle of Aquae Sextiae, in which the Germanic barbarians suffered 100,000-200,000 dead, and Rome only suffered 1,000 dead. A kill ratio of 100 to 1 in favor of Rome. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Aquae_Sextiae
@@SelfProclaimedEmperor The Romans had hired and kidnapped germanic soldiers long before this battle Arminus was himself a victim of that policy. Hard to tell if those number are correct since its the romans counts that exist. And that battle was in 102 bc with other words long before this battle. But if you count earlier battles you can also count this one: Battle of Arausio en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Arausio And this battle is from the Roman sources themself.
Germanic tribes screaming. Arminius too. Why ? because you did not catch the legions under Germanicus unawares. They came with purpose and gave the great unwashed numerous tribesmen a thorough thrashing. Now for a glass of wine from Italy.
I dont know why but looking at the germanic dude with the bear skin and goat skull "which i believe to be their beserkers/aka choosen warriors?" always gaves me chills
This is similar to what happened when the Romans attempted to invade the deep pine forests of Scotland. The Celts were so much better at fighting in those conditions, similar to the Germans. The Romans could only win on large open fields where they could use their testudo and Pila effectively
@@pierrecluzeaud4845 nowadays most historians agree that the grérmanic tribes did not wear much for battle, especially no armor since most of them were poor.
@@Smokey348 what do you mean "we know"? we know most of them fought almost or completely naked, mostly due to the fact armor was very expensive and almost no german was ablte to buy armor. same goes for swords. most fought with spears.
@@patriziatrentin6651 No, it was not Idistavisio (16 AD). Gladiator plays in 180 AD, just like the opening scene tells you. The emperor is Marc Aurel, these Germans are Markomannen (a southern tribe in the alpin region of today Bavaria/Austria/Czech) and the battle shows the ending of the Markomannic War.
@@wallung1876 Thanks for your answer, that's right; congratulation for your knowlege history. Anyway, " Barbarians" it's a bad series, "Roma" HBO it's better.
@@tankiwolf wo genau die Schlacht stattfand,streiten sich noch immer die Forscher und Gelehrten...das es sie gab steht fest, weil die Römer damals schon alles nieder schrieben. Kam auch nicht häufig vor, das eine ganze Legion vernichtet wurde. Quelle: Sämtliche Geschichtsbücher. Ich war leider nicht dabei,also spare dir weitere Fragen
It's funny how in the future they would create an empire out of this one's ruins and call it the Holy Roman empire and with Germn kings being addressed as Kaiser.History plays out in weird funny ways
@@christophersnedeker2065 Almost all the known and accessible world at that time. Christian God? C'mon you want put in competition a guy with the power of fish moltiplication and all the powers of all olimpians gods? That was only a lot of luck and gold.
@@trafalgar8655 and the power to undo death. Even Odin couldn't bring back Balder. Given the over turning of Oranos by Chronos and of Chronos by Zues that Zues would be over thrown by one of his own, and the next by one of his own and so on to eternity?
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@@vaskar1061 in 410 ad they sack rome look it up and they were sack again later do research man then in 1453 the ottoman took costantanople from the Byzantine which were part of the late Roman Empire do reasrxh man afyer the visigoth Sack rome rome was never the same they continue to be sack by several tribes and loss a lot of battles and wars.
@@alcaeus701If Italians descended from Germanic peoples they would also be Germanic, almost blond, Protestant and would speak a Germanic language. When the Lombards arrived in Italy they numbered around 150 thousand people, in a land inhabited by 8 million of Italic people , proportionately there are more foreigners today in every European nation.
This show's hella cool but, being italian, I can't stand watching my beloved legionaires and centurions get killed like that. The songs are on point tho, kvitravn and the healing mountain songs by wardruna are in my playlist right now!
@Ole Ahlers Yeah, for the most part the show did a really good job of showing how Arminius used the forest, and his knowledge of Roman formations, to systematically deprive them of every advantage.
To be fair Arminius knows roman tactics and how they fought individually certainly he knows where's the best part to hit a legionaries that would be a fatal blow
Season 2 would be quite dramatic for our main characters, Germanicus really wreaked havoc in Germania, defeating Arminius 2 times in open battle, taking no prisoners and burning every village along the way... Arminius would outlive Germanicus though, but only by 2 years before being assassinated by his own noblemen... Thusnelda was captured by Germanicus and sold into slavery, Arminius unborn son would grow up as a captive in Rome, just like his father... the other guy I don't know, probably dead in some battle... The upside is that we would get to know Arminius brother, who fought with Germanicus and stayed loyal to Rome...
As V.I Lenin said “whoever controls Germany controls Europe”. The failure of the Romans to take Germania due to the victory at Tuetoberg forest is what eventually cost them their empire. Brilliant song.,
You really overestimate Teutoburg battle don't you, This annihilated three legions yes but it wasn't that much other than the fact that the Romans never dated to conquer beyond the Rhine ever again. Alit of areas that Arminius rebelled in had been reconquered by the later brilliant Legatus Germanicus who had also recovered 2 of the 3 lost eagle standards. Actually the Civil wars fought amongst Romans was one of the many reasons as to why the Empire fell, I believe there was a battle that had more causalities than the battle of cannae and battle of Teutoburg, Combined, The succession law was messed up, the economy was messy incompetent leaders, braindead governor's usurpers after usurpers and assassination alongside double back down deals made in the Senate and constant change if dynasties along with the destruction of infantructure that came along with the civil wars was what caused the fall of Romans and don't get me wrong but that Lenin dude, yeah I doubt his words
Not at all. The Empire’s Golden Age was the exact century following this defeat. This didn’t cost Rome anything but the loss of 3 legions (still one of the worst military losses in Roman history) but in terms of their Empire they weren’t affected at all
@@marcot3868 I disagree. The failure to take Germania in the long run cost them their empire as the tribes then invaded as the empire collapsed. If they had subdued Germany the empire would have likely gone as far as the Russian steppe and maybe lasted a few hundred years more.
@@JJaguar333 No, the tribes that invaded Italy weren’t those that won at Teutoburg. The tribes that allied at Teutoburg were defeated by the Romans again few years later. The Germanic tribes that invaded the Empire came from Scandinavia originally, and from the Southern Baltic. Plus even without the Germanic intervention the Roman Empire was still doomed to fall due to internal divisions
Teutoburg is such an interesting battle because it shows what happens if you take away a Roman's discipline and organization, force him to fight man to man and against the peoples of Germania who were physically stronger and taller than the Roman peoples, they didn't have much of a chance even with their superior equipment, they lost against superior strength and skill.
@@bayupratama1777 We aren't talking about Vikings, The Viking Age was long after the fall of Rome. The Roman's themselves described the Germani as a full head taller than themselves and we have the archelogical evidence today to prove what they wrote is true. Based upon skeleton sizes Roman soldiers: 1,50 m Roman women: 1,45 m or less Germanic warriors: 1,70 m Germanic women: 1,60 m
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