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Why didn’t the Japanese join Operation Barbarossa and attack the Soviet Union in Summer 1941?
This question comes repeatedly up in one way or another, so time to tackle it.
To answer this question properly we must look at both the German side and Japanese side, since both parts played their role.
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@MilitaryHistoryNotVisualized 3 года назад

»» Errors & Corrections «« 09:07: I say mid-1931, it should be mid-1941 (as is the quote), thanks to Andrew for pointing that out.

@lovablesnowman 3 года назад

Literally unwatchable

@tracyburgass6115 3 года назад

0pp

@auguststorm2037 3 года назад

Something about German betrayal : in 1936 Germany offered several countries (including Japan) The Anti Comintern pact which explicitly stipulates what no signatory should make any pact or agreement with Soviet Union without informing all other signatories. The pact was deliberately violated in August 1939 by Germany itself signing M-R pact at the moment when Japan had a major military conflict with Soviets at Khalkin Gol...

@rosameltrozo5889 3 года назад

How sincere were they though?

@auguststorm2037 3 года назад

@@rosameltrozo5889 You mean Germans, I guess ? Well, after 1933 Soviet Union were viewed as main threat by both Germany and Japan so yes it was full of sense to sign it.

@dejabu24 3 года назад

The Germans didn’t betray anyone they were forced to do that , Britain refusal to back off from their military assistance to Poland was the reason why hitler turned to the Soviet Union, in order to follow that strategy(peace in the west in exchange of a freehand in the east) he needed to get Britain out of Central Europe , the British refused I don’t know why because Poland is not Belgium right

@auguststorm2037 3 года назад

@@dejabu24 They signed a treaty with Japan then openly violated it. Yes you're right it was in the Germany's interest to avoid two front war and so singing non aggression pact. But put yourself into Japanese position...

@dejabu24 3 года назад

@@auguststorm2037 I agree but that is different from betrayal, betrayal would’ve been if they would’ve joined the Soviets and then attack japan , nothing that Germany did affected the vital interest of Japan, Germany and the Soviets weren’t allies , and if the British had no problem to accept the Soviets as their ally , even after that why not japan

@malickfan7461 3 года назад

I won’t lie. That thumbnail art is pretty epic.

@TheTenthLeper 3 года назад

Yep!

@waffins7057 3 года назад

who does the thumbnails?

@coles4480 3 года назад

@@waffins7057 it says in the discription

@matthewkeener6786 3 года назад

Main reason I watched

@fauxhound5061 3 года назад

I agree, if only the german soldier had a glorious beard

@darkjudge8786 3 года назад

As everyone who played Axis and Allies knows, the only way you can defeat the Allies is if Germany rolls a lot of sixes in round 1 or Japan attacks Eastern USSR in rounds 1 or 2

@bchin4005 3 года назад

Agreed. Germany has to clear the North Atlantic and hammer the Soviets as hard as possible while Japan bleeds the Soviet economy from the east.

@suryaprakash2126 3 года назад

That's what I do in my Japan game, quickly take over Asia and declare war on Soviets. Eventually Soviets collapse.

@bchin4005 3 года назад

@@suryaprakash2126 the second the Japanese player goes for Pearl Harbor Part Deux and not buy a factory for the mainland, you know you have them beat in the long run

@tturtle1659 3 года назад

Can't be a very good game because the Japanese did not have any tanks capable of taking on the T-34s and KVs until 1944.

@bchin4005 3 года назад

@@tturtle1659 thankfully the A&A ruleset doesn't account for that 🤣 Japanese tanks knocking on Moscow's door from the east is hilarious!

@robertalaverdov8147 3 года назад

In 1941 Japan was in most desperate need of Oil with estimates of 6-12 months before the economy crashed. And back then the Siberian oil fields had yet to be discovered. Yes, the oil shipments from Indonesia and Malaya were at risk of interdiction. But it's better than nothing and fighting through Siberia while their economy collapses wasn't considered a winning strategy.

@rotwang2000 3 года назад

Realistically the oil in Indonesia was the best option. Operations in Siberia were limited to test drilling and the closest viable oil fields were almost a thousand miles west from the Japanese jump off point.

@WadcaWymiaru 3 года назад

People you'd forgot about Sakhalin oil field...it could competelly cover Japan need for Oil. Japan was getting 4.5 million tons of oil per year...

@robertalaverdov8147 3 года назад

@@WadcaWymiaru The Sakhalin oil fields were not utilized until the 1970's as offshore drilling hadn't been invented yet. Japan produced about 2.7 million barrels of oil domestically. The domestic wells were located at Akita, Niigata and Nutsu. This was about 0.1 percent of world production in 1941. Comparable to a Single day of American oil production. The Japanese military and economy using strict rationing needed at least 36 million tons of oil per year. So a deficit of 33 million tons.

@WadcaWymiaru 3 года назад

@@robertalaverdov8147 Let's count basing on know data: - Akita, Niigata and Nutsu (409 077 tons/y) - Formosa, Taiwan (1 000 000 tons/y) - Fushun: Oil wells in Manchuria - (1 000 000 tons/y) then oil from the deal with reds: - Soviet Sakhalin(1 000 000 tons/y) Around 3 409 077 t/y of crude. Now stored: "Navy petroleum product reserves on 1 December 1941 were 1,435,000 tons of crude oil; 3,634,000 tons of of bunker fuel; 473,000 tons of aviation gasoline; 27,000 tons of isooctane; 6400 tons of aircraft lubricants; 13,600 tons of ordinary lubricants; and 921,000 tons of petroleum derivatives already loaded on ships or distributed to overseas bases." Stockpiled: 6 569 231 tons (42.7 million barrels of oil) pwencycl.kgbudge.com/O/i/Oil.htm Army need 876 923 t/y , civilian requirements 1 938 461 t and Navy: 2.7 milion t/y. So that's A LOT! Eventuall need for military vehicicles and tanks: 1.1 milion ton(Wehrmacht size armor) if Navy was not used much. (man, how hard to write like that)

@robertalaverdov8147 3 года назад

@@WadcaWymiaru So the amount of oil produced and in storage, was barely enough to last a year. Additionally most of it was in overseas territory vulnerable to submarine interdiction. And even then according to the very same link you sent me they poorly managed their limited reserves. I think we both know the same things we're just at odds over how to analyze the data. Lastly keep in mind estimated usage isn't correlated to real world experience. The US army thought they would need between 5,000 to 10,000 tons of fuel per day in the invasion of France. They ended up needing about twice that amount. And problems with the supply chain only exasperated the issue. For example, soldiers selling jerry cans to French civilians at a premium. Bottom line, oil or the lack thereof defeated the axis.

@michaeldebellis4202 3 года назад

I was one of the people that asked this recently so thanks, as always, a very clear and well supported analysis. I also like the inclusion of the original German quotes. I’ve been trying to learn German forever but I find it really difficult to learn new languages. I think if I watch enough of these,I’ll at least pick up some vocabulary.

@noobikus5475 3 года назад

Ich wünsch dir Glück mit der Deutschen Sprache

@cavalcadeofbobs3559 3 года назад

Basic military Vokabeln for any aspiring Panzerkommandant: Panzer: tank Maschinengewehr: Machine gun die Luftwaffe im 1945: A joke

@noobikus5475 3 года назад

@@cavalcadeofbobs3559 Excuse me let my inner grammar Nazi present you : * Die Luftwaffe im Jahr 1945: a complete failure ; D

@cavalcadeofbobs3559 3 года назад

@@noobikus5475 yes, I am a complete novice

@GeorgeSemel 3 года назад

Well stick with it, even when you think you are not getting anywhere, you are, I know I am almost two years into teaching myself to speak read and write in Russian. I have a better handle of the language today than I did when I started, that being said, I got a long way to go, and yeah there has been a lot of frustration. But I look at it as well, first, it's a different alphabet and sentence structure, so yeah as an English speaker, I am going to have a boatload of problems, ok I know that going in so I just accept that I will make a lot of mistakes, mostly spelling since I am hearing impaired, but it's the repetition that will win the day over time. I put my Russian- English dictionary to a lot of use. As for the German- Japanese Alliance, in name only, they did nothing but lie to each other on just about everything. The allies on the other hand didn't and shared information and the tech advancements. One of the reasons the war was as short as it was once the US became engaged.

@Abu-Talha-Al-Kurdi 3 года назад

Hey 👋 , ich will’s einfach mal raushauen, du machst einfach ungelogen die besten WW2 Videos. EXTREME Präzision die bei deutschen Dokus fehlt, Zerstörung von Mythen und das ständige und mühsame angeben von Quellenangaben zu allen aussagen. Danke für deine harte Arbeit, Grüße gehen raus Deutschland 🇩🇪 English: Hey, just want to tell you that you make the best WW2 videos by far. Very precise, something that’s missing in German documentaries, constantly debunking myths with all of your statements underlined with authentic sources. We appreciate your hard work greetings 🇩🇪

@pointlesspublishing5351 3 года назад

Quellen lesen ist eine verloren gegangene Kunst.

@firemangan2731 3 года назад

Shouldn’t you be Japanese?

@Abu-Talha-Al-Kurdi 3 года назад

@@firemangan2731 Tenno Heika Banzai! Long live the glorious empire of japan! May the emperors reign continue for another 2000 years! Kido is from "The men in the high castle" a tv show on amazon prime about the germans and japanese winning WW2 and splitting the us between them

@davidburroughs2244 3 года назад

Thank you for the english, my German is weak.

@hookybrickshooky9529 3 года назад

Before watching the video: I think the Battles of Khalkhin Gol did not necessary raise the Japanese appetite for war with the Russians. With a Japanese victory in this conflict I think there was a good chance for Japan siding with Germany against the Soviets in 1941. Gregory Zhukov was a Hero of the Soviet Union even before Barbarossa.

@lafuffarosa562 3 года назад

I agree. Another key aspect of the Battle of Khalkhin Gol is the great loss of prestige of the army. This led the japanese leadership to support more the navy and its plans

@alanpennie8013 3 года назад

@@lafuffarosa562 One of the most decisive, and least noticed, battles of WW2.

@davidbrennan660 3 года назад

@@lafuffarosa562 I agree, politically it served the Imperial Japanese Navy in several ways.

@chrisperez9854 3 года назад

I would’ve thought Japan would want revenge for their defeat at Khalkhin Gol, such is their nature. Still, I don’t understand why they thought the US would be an easier opponent than the Soviets, seeing as how the USSR was busy with Germany while the US mainland was untouched and impossible to reach.

@hookybrickshooky9529 3 года назад

@@chrisperez9854 I think it was a complicated thing and it was also quite possible that the Japanese didn't trusted Germany completely. After all the video made some very good points besides the Khalkhin Gol incident. The non-aggression-pact between Germany and Russia was pretty much a affront for the Japanese. As for how the war went, I'm pretty sure that a combined effort of Japan an Germany would took out Russia out of the War in 1942. If Germany and Japan shared the resources of Russia, the basic Japanese raw material problem would be solved and maybe the USA never entered the war. But thats just my humble opinion and I assume that there are more aspects that I'm not aware of.

@davidburroughs2244 3 года назад

Subscribed. This is the clearest examination and summary of the J-G coordination through the latter days of 1941 I have ever come across. Quoting and citing your sources is top notch, as well as are your clear explanations of the specific reasons Japan logically declined attacking north. Thank you for including the efforts and results of their earlier northern efforts. Basically, it would have to be one or the other but not both, and, the western and southern directions were clearly far more rewarding than splitting their efforts by trying to go into China then splitting north and southboth. Clearly, even the mighty and experienced Japanese military had its limits and their assets had to be invested most wisely so as to not be misspent.

@MilitaryHistoryNotVisualized 3 года назад

thank you!

@eliasmiguelfreire8965 8 месяцев назад

Thank you for the videos, I've been consuming them daily and it's been teaching me a lot on my way to work!

@daybertimagni4841 3 года назад

Great video, as always!

@steviejohnson378 3 года назад

Great video as always Bernhard

@michaeldunne338 3 года назад

Good video on an intriguing topic. Nice review of Nomonhan and the implications of that battle. Many seem to overlook it when going through the decision making process in Imperial Japan from 1930 to 1941.

@user-yk9em3je6q 3 года назад

Goldman's book on Nomonhan also includes a very good survey of politics and international relations of the 1920s and '30s and just what an endlessly shifting morass they were.

@johngaltman 3 года назад

I love that you are using the foundational documents and not just some book written by a "historian" that got his translation from some other "historian'... Generally the "historians" can't read the documents that they are said to be quoting... Subscribed and rang the bell because of this.

@cbody70 3 года назад

Great analysis! Thanks for posting.

@johnaitken7430 3 года назад

Always solid work. And always leads me to the sources. I may not be a trained historian,but I learn what original sources mean vs third hand

@vladimpaler3498 3 года назад

Thank you for this. I always wondered why there wasn't a coordinated strategy. I had the individual pieces but had not put them together.

@ED-es2qv 3 года назад

Nice work sir.

@juancarlosbarranco8474 3 года назад

I was wondering if the German trained Chinese Divisions were also perceived as a betrayal by the Japanese, and if there are other examples of "German unreliability" that hampered cooperation between both nations.

@AntieCathyria 3 года назад

The German training of Chinese Divisions began in 1933, before Japan took fully invasion of China in 1937. So, I think it is not betrayal, as it already happened. But indeed, Japan protested to German after 1937, so German called their men back from China.

@iangreenhalgh9280 3 года назад

The key thing was oil - Japan desperately needed oil, even moreso than Germany. The oil was in the East Indies, whereas the far east of the USSR was vast empty wastes so Japan had very little to gain from invading the USSR and everything to gain by seizing the East Indies, so they launched their forces at the East Indies.

@WadcaWymiaru 3 года назад

There was proposition to build those: Synthetic oil: - 87 plants - 6.4 millions barrels of Gasoline (984 615 t) - 7.7 millions barrels of heavy Oil (1 184 615 t) but navy rejected that while Army wanted working technology.

@WadcaWymiaru 3 года назад

@lati long Japan would get the "safe backs" and if they drill for oil from desperation...this field: www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/what-if-the-japanese-discovered-the-liaohe-oil-field.416582/ Just 100 meters from huge success... BTW - i think USA would get scared and lifted entire embargo.

@johnshepherd8687 3 года назад

The Germans expected a swift victory that did not require Japanese assistance. In the meantime, the US oil embargo made it impossible for Japan to move against the USSR until the resources of Southeast Asia were secured. If Japan was going to maintain a capability to fight, even in China, they had to move South. Once committed to the move South it became necessary to secure victory against the Western allies before they could move against the USSR. Richard Sorge communicated the Japanese decision to opt for the Southern Strategy to Stalin and was able to reinforce his Western Front and defeat the Germans around Moscow. The Japanese decision not to support Germany in 1941 led to Germany's defeat. There is another factor that made the Japanese reluctant to take on the USSR -- the war in China. They simply could not fight both China and the Soviet Union at the same time. Chiang Chi Shek is the unsung hero of WWII. Without his will to resist China would have collapsed freeing a large Japanese Army to attack the Soviet Union. Chiang's role in saving China is now recognized by CCP. He is considered a national hero

@BobSmith-dk8nw 3 года назад

Outstanding. Thank you. .

@jasonharryphotog 3 года назад

Excellent, thanks

@JackOQuin 3 года назад

Already understanding the basic reasons, I almost didn't watch this video. That would have been a mistake, because as usual Bernhard added many interesting facts I hadn't known.

@ewok40k 3 года назад

Japan needed oil, and it was in opposite direction... Oh yeah no one discovered Siberia oil yet.

@WadcaWymiaru 3 года назад

Japan was 100 meters or so from: www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/what-if-the-japanese-discovered-the-liaohe-oil-field.416582/

@ranvabclc 3 года назад

IKR... Imagine if they knew back then.

@firemangan2731 3 года назад

@@ranvabclc Then They surely would’ve came in banzai chrages blazing.

@fulcrum2951 3 года назад

Would it or the infrastructure (if there is any semblance of one) be intact tho

@gregcampwriter 3 года назад

Given my long experience playing Axis and Allies, I'll observe that Germany has a hard time unless Japan does something useful against Russia.

@captaingenius-o1c 3 года назад

I won as the Axis powers once, but that's because I tried for the 'wonder weapons'(forget what they were called) and got long range bombers and other things to defeat the USSR... BTW, the game takes forever to set up...

@RA10H56 2 года назад

The Axis would throw everything at the soviet union and ignore everything else in the game. Then they could compete economicly. I remember once my rolls as Germany didn't go as planned and my brother took western Europe from me and southern Europe and attacked Germany. But were repulsed.

@scottyfox6376 3 года назад

Would it be possible to do a video on anti armour air dropped ordinance for WW2 & its effectiveness ? Such as the Soviet PTAB for example.

@187mrsmith 2 года назад

I was always curious why they didn't try to form attacks together like the allies did

@aslkjdfhkasdasdklfjasdjk5310 3 года назад

good video

@villeuusivuori7150 3 года назад

Interesting that the German material used the Swedish name Hango instead of the Finninsh version Hanko, but it was swedish majority region at the time (or before the evacuation of 1940).

@logoseven3365 3 года назад

That was really good.

@butchoharechicago6657 3 года назад

Now that would have been interesting.Yaks , Migs and Lavochkins vs Oscars, Zeroes, Tony,s. PE-2s and Stormovicks vs Georges, Jacks and Franks.

@RA10H56 2 года назад

Well perhaps we will get to try it again. WW3, for those who thought WW1 and WW2 were fun but to short. I enjoy your videos and hope people learn from them. And we can find a better way and avoid another catastrophic conflict.

@hadrianbuiltawall9531 3 года назад

Before I watch it, I'm going to go with - someone looked at a map, saw the vast distances with almost no infrastructure and practically no resources and thought "my army doesn't run on sunlight and snow". After watching - With vast natural obstacles in the way, the various parties decide to make up their own problems so they don't even have to try.

@richardwales9674 3 года назад

Very interesting. It seems complex while you're talking about it. Khalkhin Gol told the Japanese that the risk v the reward was was too great. With the Americans, they still had to learn that lesson. Although from what I have read with regard to America, the Japanese decided that to fight and lose was better than to simply roll over. However to rewards of the Southern expansion and Japan's economic situation also points to risk reward being South as well.

@Riceball01 3 года назад

It's funny, I was just thinking about this the other day and here you are posting a video on this subject. Well done, sir. Now for a hypothetical question. What would have happened if the Japanese somehow managed to scrounge up the troops and resources to Invade the Soviet Union from the east? Would it habe been enough to make a difference and allowing the Axis to wing against Russia or would it have just knocked Japan out of the war that much ssooner?

@jakobrinsdorf7791 3 года назад

I think that the japanese involvement would have had only a minor influence. With their forces already stretched thin in china the Invasion force available without threatening their gains in china would have been rather small. Adding to that there were vast lands with next to no infrastucture to Support an Invasion. The biggest effect by such an Invasion on the would have been the supply cut by loosing the Eastern ports, which would have forced all the Land lease to go though Murmansk.

@huntermad5668 3 года назад

@@jakobrinsdorf7791 And Far East garrison was by no mean small and ill-equipped. They would have knowledge of the land and infrastructure to move forces around not the invading Japanese. Also, the Southern forces still need forces like the ones deploying here

@SusCalvin 3 года назад

The thing I notice from imperial Japan is opportunism. India, Australia and Singapore are lower priority than the war in Europe and a lot of little european colonies are just sitting there without the protection of the home countries. Imperial Japan is following the old meiji constitution, which lays out a pretty flat organisation under the emperor. A lot of ministries and armed forces branches and even local commanders are directly placed under the emperor and have to reach a consensus.

@patttrick 3 года назад

The army wanted north ,the navy south

@ElYeyuno 3 года назад

That's right. Simple.

@Grafknar 2 года назад

Wow. This is the first time I've ever seen your face. You look exactly like I pictured you would lolz :)

@MilitaryHistoryNotVisualized 2 года назад

😁

@aegirkarl1411 3 года назад

The Japanese military forces would have been overextended and underdeployed against the Soviet Union; the army would have struggled while the large Japanese navy would have overwhelmed the Soviet navy. Meanwhile intact and alerted US navy would be lurking.

@malickfan7461 3 года назад

I wonder if they would have gotten involved had the US not issued the oil embargo.

@MeatGoblin88 3 года назад

i seriously doubt it. why invade russia if you can't even knock china out of the war?

@SusCalvin 3 года назад

The US opinion in '36 is pretty strongly anti-japanese. The US public might be iffy about military intervention but they support economic and diplomatic pressure. There are US reporters witnessing the japanese atrocities in China, and chinese nationalists have been building international support for a few decades at this point.

@turdferguson3803 3 года назад

@@MeatGoblin88 They were unable to finish off China because most of the IJA was protecting the border with the USSR. If the Soviets could have been defeated then it would have freed well over 600,000 men and China would have been toast, hell the Japanese might have even overrun India too. It's very unlikely though, as the IJA simply wasn't equipped to fight a large ground war against a modern mechanized army. The IJA excelled in harsh terrain and amphibious operations but that type of warfare was nothing like what they ended up facing in 1945 when the Soviets eventually did invade Manchuria.

@merth4662 3 года назад

@@MeatGoblin88 Plenty of reasons. To capitalize on the seemingly successful German invasion, potentially gain territory and resources in the Far East, create a buffer zone between the USSR and their holdings in Manchuria, take revenge for the defeat at Khalkhin gol/ Nomonhan, assist in possibly dismantling their powerful northern enemy, further increase their military prestige.

@mladenmatosevic4591 3 года назад

Taking South Asia was too good opportunity to pass. Beside, Soviet tanks and artillery made obsolete in Europe in 1941 still overmatched most of Japanese equipment in 1945.

@PyromaN93 3 года назад

You forget about one point - Soviet Far East group was have expierenced troops, full manpower and armament, it wasn't affected by German invasion. It was literally the same divisions, what beat out a shit from IJA 2 years earlier, but in their territory. So, just simple logic - if you was beaten by bear once, stay out of his lair

@mladenmatosevic4591 3 года назад

@@PyromaN93 I know that part. I am talking about full army, and navy, going on Vladivostok instead of South Asia.

@looinrims 2 года назад

How you say trash like the T-26 overmatches stuff like the Chi Kai is beyond all reason

@mladenmatosevic4591 2 года назад

@@looinrims At Khallkin Gol were T-26 and they trashed Japanese. And in 1945 Soviets brought in lots of newer tanks too, like whole tank army with T-34 and IS-2 after end of war in Europe. As for Chi Kai, how many of them were in Manchuria in 1945? I cannot find this name but there were around 2000 produced Chi-Ha and Chi-He, inferior to T-34.

@looinrims 2 года назад

@@mladenmatosevic4591 you said the stuff they had in 1941 (so…dogshit including T-34 that died to Panzer 2s and Pak 36s) overmatched 1945 Japanese equipment This is just plain wrong

@theelectricwalrus 3 года назад

Wow! This video had changed my mind about this! Very helpful to put the treaty text in there. It seems Roosevelt and churchill thwarted Hitler's hope the US would focus on the pacific after Pearl Harbor instead of a Europe-first strategy. Hitler's decision to declare war on the US is even more of a blunder in this context. US ruthlessness in abandoning the Phillipines makes sense. Also, how publicized was Khalkin Gol? Did Hitler even know that there were skirmishes on the manchurian border at all?

@caryblack5985 3 года назад

I am sure that Germany would be aware of the fighting. The Japanese ambassador would have reported it in Germany.

@kaneo1 2 года назад

Another lecturer: the Axis, with everything in common, mistrusted & sabatoged each other. The allies, with little in common, coordinated & shared technology & intel.

@michaelkaylor6770 3 года назад

Note to self: When trying to take over the world, use allies effectively don’t treat them like mushrooms! Got it!

@budwyzer77 3 года назад

ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-LVwlUe_t3jg.html Our 'Mein Kampf' is not their 'Mein Kampf'

@thebunkerparodie6368 3 года назад

why do wehraboo believe nazi germany would have won with japanattacking the USSR? I feel like it would have make it much worst for japan

@kuwaitisnotadeployment1373 3 года назад

This is a interesting question

@thebigone6071 3 года назад

You’re the true 🐐 Bernhard!!! The greatest historian living or dead!!!!

@PalleRasmussen 3 года назад

I am going to be a "country matters" and say you do not know many historians do you? Bernard is a fine fellow and seems like a nice fellow too, but most research is done by other historians, Bernard just pass it on. A Thucydides or Glantz or Mommsen or even Bevoor, nor Hume, Ranke or Toynbee, Bloch or Hobsbawn, Snyder or Clark, Kagan or Elton, Kershaw or Taylor, etc, etc, etc- you get the point. Listen to your teachers in school buddy, they will impart on you the large picture, where Bernard give you some more details on a certain subject. At least I hope they will, not all schools are equally good, nor all countries' education systems.

@thebigone6071 3 года назад

PalleRasmussen Are you by any chance jealous of how awesome a historian Bernhard is? He’s the greatest of all time!

@PalleRasmussen 3 года назад

@@thebigone6071 not really. I am too old for that kind of thing, but not for disliking ignorance like the one you elicit.

@steviejohnson378 3 года назад

@@PalleRasmussen I still think Bernhard is better than most RU-vid 'historians'. Others don't cite their sources at all.

@PalleRasmussen 3 года назад

@@steviejohnson378 oh definitely and a favourite of mine. I have nothing but praise for Bernard, he also has a degree and he does fine work, but he is none of those I listed above, or even a Neitzel. Maybe he could have been if he went that way but he chose something else, as did I with mine.

@tjejojyj 2 года назад

Please do a video on why Hitler thought the Stalinist regime would collapse. There was definitely an ongoing crisis in the regime (the Great Terror) and events like Stalin’s sudden retreat to his Dacha at the end of July 1941 superficially indicate the Nazi estimate had some credibility.

@KMN-bg3yu 3 года назад

Do you think Hitler had changed his mind by Dec 1941? The situation on the eastern front was deteriorating and I can't help but think that one if the reasons for Hitler's declaration of war against the USA was that Japan would reciprocate by declaring against the USSR

3 года назад

Seams to me that Justin ist absolutly central to boath MHV and MAH :)

@GlaDi02 2 года назад

Germany: We're attacking Soviet union Japan: YOU WHAT?! OK I guess Later: Japan: We've bombed Pearl Harbor Germany: YOU WHAT?! HERR GOTT

@ebusitanus 3 года назад

All critique is of course in hinsight. Yet, maybe if Japan had assaulted the soviet east in spring of 1942 it might have been useful in easing german operations during Blau. Japan would not have needed to make lightening advances beyond Valdivostock, cutting vital US supplies to the Soviet union and tying vital red troops on the front. This is all of course in hinsight. No one even knew about the vast oil reserves in Siberia.

@davidlindsey6111 2 года назад

One word. Indochina. Japanese occupation of French Indochina resulted in much more harsh economic sanctions against Japan that created the dire need for capturing sources of oil and rubber. Occupation of Indochina also brought a southern plan into the realm of reality by serving as a logistical base extending down towards the South Pacific. So, in reality, even if no clash with the Soviets had happened, the dire need of oil and rubber dictated that a southern strategy was absolutely necessary for the continuation of the war.

@warrenpeece1726 3 года назад

What I find more interesting is that when Germany and the USSR jointly invaded Poland in 1939, France and England declared war on Germany but not the USSR.

@fulcrum1126 3 года назад

You will all have to excuse me for my ignorance, but I have never understood why Japan needed to invade China from 1933 onwards. Could Japan not simply have cultivated a relationship with the KMT and used them as their partners in China? They could have used Pan-Asian themes to build an alliance with KMT China. Anti-communist themes could also be used. Once the KMT position was consolidated in China they could then get their natural resources from them, buy them, instead of taking them by force. Japanese businessmen could invest in China. Tokyo and Nanjing could enjoy good relations. Chiang Kai Shek studied in Japan and Japan also had links to Chinese anti-colonial nationalists before it embarked on its military campaigns in China, i.e. 1910s, 1920s. Am I talking complete nonsense or would this have been possible? Why did Japan not do this instead? Japanese invasion of China seems to have not actually been in Japan's national interest, and all that Tokyo wanted to achieve could have surely been managed through diplomatic means. This would have also avoided war with the US and delayed conflict with the Soviets for as long as possible. Please do tell me if I'm talking nonsense.

@billd.iniowa2263 3 года назад

Simply stated: It wasn't Axis And Allies.

@marianmarkovic5881 3 года назад

they were everwhere else,...

@aramissebastian2817 3 года назад

This isn’t a close call, actually: the Japanese already had their hands full with the Chinese. And their ground forces matched up poorly with the Russians, quantitatively, and qualitatively, particularly in the area of armor (T-34/KV-1 vs. Type 95, anyone?). Also, there was good strategic coordination between the Chinese and the Soviets: Japanese forces simply would have been swallowed up whole. Lastly, the Japanese didn’t think the Germans would prevail. Who bets on a probable loser?

@philiphumphrey1548 3 года назад

Very informative as always. I suspect that the main reason was the Japanese were understandably reluctant to risk ending up fighting on two fronts at once. They must have known they were heading towards a war with the United States, taking on the Soviet union as well (and for what?, Hitler wasn't a reliable ally) would have been utter madness.

@WadcaWymiaru 3 года назад

Japanese underestimated the meaning of LL: "From October 1st 1941-June 30th 1942 over 1.4 million tons of LL came in. In the next 12 months that tonnage doubled. The Pacific was vital for food imports from the start of 1941 on, the majority of it coming in via the Pacific route until July 1st 1943-June 30th 1944. Losing the Pacific route for LL would mean the majority of food cannot come in prior to July 1st 1943, which is fatal to the Soviet military, who subsisted on US Spam, fats, oil, sugar, etc." without that Red Army would just starve to death...

@SusCalvin 3 года назад

The meiji constitution makes it hard to avoid multiple fronts. You have these junior officers just doing their own thing, starting a fight, telling people they were inspired by the emperor and getting away with it. And then the rest of Japan is forced to follow through on whatever they did. This is a place where rings of junior officers routinely assassinated ministers.

@podemosurss8316 3 года назад

3 reasons: 1. The Japanese had been beaten in Khalkhin Gol. 2. The Soviets had a ton of troops in Manchuria and Mongolia. 3. The Japanese army had their hands full in China.

@WadcaWymiaru 3 года назад

Meh...not this, US embargo. 1. And they do countermeasures because lost most of soldiers from the diseases, not the enemies. 2. They would crumble really quickly. 3. Free hands in Manchuria...around 1 million of them.

@podemosurss8316 3 года назад

@@WadcaWymiaru Soviet troops in fortified positions having superiority (in terms of both quantity and quality) in both tanks and artillery crumbling very quickly? Have you read about what happened when the Japanese actually engaged the Soviets at lake Khasan and at Khalkhin Gol? By september 1941 the soviets had 160 divisions in the area (10 of which were tank divisions) plus a total of 127 brigades/regiments (including 69 artillery, 9 rocket artillery and 14 tank brigades/regiments), without including the 16 fortified districts (brigade-size fortified garrisons) along the border. Given the fact that the Japanese in 1939 not only had problems trying to break through a Soviet detachment formed by 5 rifle divisions and 3 tank brigades but lost an entire army on that battle (Khalkhin Gol), it's dubious. Not to mention the fact that those "million troops in Manchuria" were mostly support garrisons (and were quickly defeated in 1945 when the Soviets actually went to war with the Japanese). For tanks, the average Soviet tank in the area for 1941 was the BT-7, and it was vastly superior in speed and firepower to any Japanese tank in 1941. For artillery, the Soviets had 122mm howitzers in addition to the 76mm field artillery (the Japanese only had 75mm field artillery), and also wielded more guns per division (not to mention the separate artillery brigades that reported directly to the corps command). The Japanese had 25 divisions (of which only 2 were tank divisions) and 6 mixed brigades, totalling 700000 men with 5000 artillery pieces and 700 tanks. The Soviets, as mentioned, had 160 divisions and 127 brigades, which gives a total of around 2.9 million soldiers, around 8000 artillery pieces (without counting rocket launchers) and 2176 tanks. That is a superiority of 4 to 1 in men, 8 to 5 in artillery pieces (not counting the fact that Soviet artillery was more powerful) and 3 to 1 in tanks. And the Soviets had already demonstrated in 1939 that in an 1 to 1 fight they would come on top.

@WadcaWymiaru 3 года назад

@@podemosurss8316 Few things: 1. *Japanese* strenght was far greater than you think: *Imperial Army* was 1.4 million man in June of 1941. It also possessed 1155 light tanks, 5360 guns, and 1800 aircraft. Plus around 1 000 000 Chinese collaborants. 2. *Soviet* : "Stalin transferred over 18 divisions, 1700 tanks, and over 1500 aircraft from Siberia and the Far East. 400 000 people, 250 000 for Moscow." "In December 1941 the Soviet forces in Manchuria and along the Central Asian frontiers still consisted of 1 568 000 men, 2541 tanks (almost exclusively light), 2951 airplanes." Is Stalin didn't lifted the divisions...Moscow would have fallen! *Far East Army* is badly beaten by Japanese within 6-8 weeks! And remember battle of *Khalkin Gol* was won by arrive of reinforcement: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-GGwUlET2tbw.html What saved the Soviet from repeating the *Battle of Lake Khasan* and capable commandor Zhukow. (mr. Roach) What's left in far East during the Barbarossa were armateurs, and really poorly trained soldiers. Japanese planes were also so superior they could overrun the fortifications.

@podemosurss8316 3 года назад

@@WadcaWymiaru 1. Still not enough. I mean, I posted the total strength for september 1941 for the Soviets (which was about average). 2. For December the Soviet strength in the eastern border included 78 divisions (4 tank), 214 brigades/regiments and 16 border regions. Still, for those "almost exclusively light" tanks, the mayority were BT-7 (which was superior to any Japanese tank in 1941). There was no "far eastern army", but two army groups (Far Eastern and Transbaikal fronts), plus those troops are superior numerically (specially in tanks) to the Japanese, not to mention that they were fortified, so the only way the Japanese would win in that situation is in a wild fantasy (them winning in "6 to 8 weeks" isn't in the realms of reality). What would actually happen is that the Japanese would end up losing thousands of men trying to banzai-charge against heavily fortified positions supported by howitzers, and then encircled by the Soviet tanks. "What's left in far East during the Barbarossa were armateurs, and really poorly trained soldiers. Japanese planes were also so superior they could overrun the fortifications. " Well, planes can fly over any fortifications, the thing is they cannot occupy terrain. Also, they cannot fight properly against a powerful anti-air screen (technique which the Soviets had mastered). About the Soviets being "amateurs", well, they were conscripts, the thing is that on that note most Japanese soldiers would be "amateurs" as well, not to mention the fact that the Soviets were poorly trained by their standarts, which differ from the Japanese standarts (IJA training was even worse). Not to mention that the Soviets won at lake Khasan (even though they sustained far heavier casualties than expected). In general, you are showing that you lack a proper knowledge on the abilities of both the Soviet and Japanese armies by 1941. Not to mention the fact that you are handpicking the most favourable date for a Japanese attack (in the sense that the Soviets had fewer troops in the area), but also you forget one of the big strengths of the Soviets (the one which basically won them the war): their units could recover from anything but total anihilation pretty quickly and be reinforced back to total strength within a few days.

@WadcaWymiaru 3 года назад

@@podemosurss8316 1. You posted wrong data. I can show you the source, while you can't: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battles_of_Khalkhin_Gol#Soviet_assessment 2. No... *Soviet* tanks were no mean better than Japanese ones, and remember Japan also have medium tanks. And A LOT of guns. Include high-caliber ones. Japan could amasse the armor and other of Navy was not used. One destroyer burns the fuel like 1000 tanks. 3. Planes like bombers can easly level the fortifications, in that time anti-air was really bad, especilly the soviets. They didn't have good cannons, with equal strenght and caliber of the rivals. 3. What would doom the Soviet East Army would be lack of capable commanders and supply, only one rail could supply them. No wonder: "the Soviet operations chief of the Far Eastern Front, General A. K. Kazakovtsev, was not confident in his army group's ability to stop an invasion if the Japanese committed to it (at least in 1941-1942), commenting: "If the Japanese enter the war on Hitler's side ... our cause is hopeless." I believe him, without Lend Lease provided dicretcly, he couldn't hope for the victory. Also Soviets were scared later: "In December 1943, when the American military mission proposed a logistics base be set up east of *Lake Baikal, the Red Army* authorities were according to Coox "shocked by the idea and literally turned white".

@TheLoyalOfficer 3 года назад

The Japanese needed oil. The Soviet Far East was not good for that.

@WadcaWymiaru 3 года назад

They have oil, but didn't knew XD

@pointlesspublishing5351 3 года назад

The Axis: "good question"

@crownprincesebastianjohano7069 3 года назад

I always answer this question, when asked by friends and students, with a question of my own: Given Japan's economic needs and the strategic situation with China and the US, why *would* the Japanese attack the Soviet Union? It makes no sense at all for them to do so. It only makes sense in a scenario where their war in China has concluded satisfactorily, and their economic needs are met whilst a workable, long-term peace treaty with the US was in place. The Soviet Far East is well down the list of Japanese priorities. There is virtually nothing of economic value, that they knew of in 1941, that they could not already get in Manchuko and Korea.

@nanananan6501 3 года назад

Oh well. We will never know if a meeting between imperial and Nazi armies would have the same effect as a meeting between the allies in 1945

@eq1373 3 года назад

Because Japan may have had naval victories, but they in no way had the resources to march a land army across Siberia

@manoleeen 3 года назад

any logical reasons to actually 'march through Siberia'? There were like 3 cities above 200k in 1940. Only taking Vladivostok could cut Pacific route (40-50% lend-lease).

@usg-647 3 года назад

Key Question - so after Japan deceided not to join the attack on the USSR (understandable, and well explained) - why did they let US Merchant Marine sail to Vladivostok. Indredibly, ss long as they were under USSR flags, US ships were allowed to sail thru. They actually delivered the majority of lend lease thru this port!

@WadcaWymiaru 3 года назад

Neutrality, that was.

@justinsmith1177 3 года назад

Without watching I would say there were no resources worth having except wood.

@Dori-Ma 3 года назад

About the only way Japan could have helped would've been to somehow convince the Soviets that if they withdrew troops from the East that Japan would exploit their absence. Thus denying the Soviet West those troops for countering the Germans.

@huntermad5668 3 года назад

They only moved a small portion of garrison forces in Far East to fight the Nazi. Most of the forces in the Winter counterattack were newly raised forces. The idea of Siberian divisions turning the tide is a Myth no more no less

@marcneef795 4 месяца назад

That surely did not backfire

@yamatomushashi5583 2 года назад

One of them was the non-aggression pact between the Soviet Union and Japan (this pact was eventually gone down the drain when the Soviets attacked Manchukuo (Manchuria) days after the US atomic bombing of Hiroshima.

@alloomis1635 2 года назад

they did in fact attack ussr, from mongolia. [plan a ] got a bloody nose from zhukov and friends, so they went to plan b. no luck there, either. don't you guys read history?

@rotwang2000 3 года назад

There is anotherher factor, other than the ports and some industry and mining, the prize in the Russian east is rather limited. If you want oil the nearest major production area then active was a thousand miles to the west from the Japanese jump off point. The USSR didn't start to develop oil infrastructure in the late 1950's, something that didn't get into gear in the 1970's at a frightning cost which left the Soviet economy reeling in the 1980's at the height of the confrontation with Reagan. So the usual idea that the Japanese had only to cross the border to get oil is pretty faulty. Similarly the argument that Rommel could have capture the oil of the Middle East is based on modern oil production, by 1941 the main producer was Persia and oil drilling had barely begin around 1938. Funny detail the man in charge of the Siberia project was also called to fix Chernobyl, some claim as punishment for the exhorbitant cost overruns of the project.

@quitecapable 3 года назад

Your remind me again how simplistic my view of the world is, and it is nuanced compared to Hollywood's. An excellent book, on explaining complex phenomena with simple rules, "Critical Mass" , demonstrated that with a couple of simple rules on geography etc, you could design an algorithm to predict who ended up on whose side in WW2, and the prediction was perfect except Poland should have been on Germany's side. At first, in Hollywood mode, i thought that was a bit ridiculous, but then realised the algorithm was probably right, and Poland was actually more likely a german ally, and the cards only fell differently because of random stuff, like, irredentism, mistreatiment of germans, poland's failed invasion of russia, and pilsudski's death. You realise everyone one was guessing back then, as now, and they didn't even have decent knowledge of their own government, let alone anyone else's, and couldn't separate what they wished for from what was likely .

@finny01b 3 года назад

Poland would much rather have allied with Germany against the USSR than vice versa. Poland is very Russophobic, with mutual antagonism going back centuries. Ultimately Polish arrogance and a baseless belief in French and British promises put it into its position between a rock and hard place in 1939

@frankmueller2781 3 года назад

Any contributor is the rivalry between the IJN & the IJN. At the time of Barbarosa the Japanese Navy was in political ascendancy and they were more in favor of expansion in the Pacific and against the U.S.

@WadcaWymiaru 3 года назад

Only because USA embargo struck like a lightning...

@EstParum 3 года назад

Japan:-"Ehh. Seems kinda hard"

@axeavier 3 года назад

neat

@apokalipsx25 3 года назад

Japan could try their luck in Mongolia in summer of 1941. This would be much easier and it would help the germans against the USSR. The soviet army was heavy depending on horses from Mongolia to move their army resources. Besides, this country has exported many other important stuff for the USSR. Why not to try it ?

@jayg1438 3 года назад

They did in 1939. Khalkan Gol on the Manchu/ Siberian border and got beat pretty badly.

@Gammo465 3 года назад

I wonder what history would look like with a quick Japanese victory in China. I still think Russia would somehow end up on top even with a duel invasion cause of its vast land masses. Both powers had "sprinter" armies not suited for the full on lengthy conquest of the millions of miles of Soviet homeland.

@romannerin2329 3 года назад

Quick victory over 400+ million China? For what? The resources needed are zero, there are a lot of problems, the chances in fact are zero. And even taking the fantastically variant of the Japanese success, how many Chinese would join the Soviet army? Million? 10? And what about the partisans in the occupied territories? And what about a Soviet group of at least 1.3 million soldiers with modern equipment that would be transferred from the Far East to the direction of the strike? Something is wrong in this plan =)

@Gammo465 3 года назад

@@romannerin2329 I mean a quick peace deal not necessarily the full conquest of China's, like a take what we can get scenario. Its extremely improbable because a peace deal with the nationalists doesn't mean a peace deal with the communists and vice versa but its still good food for thought.

@romannerin2329 3 года назад

@@Gammo465 Several facts. Since 1931, Japan has gutted China - seized territories, smashed troops, robbed, genocidal the population, sponsored extremists. By 1937, the Chinese had no illusions about their fate, therefore, with the assistance of the USSR, the Kuomintang and the Chinese communists were united (despite the fact that they cut each other before this and then continued). The USSR helped with loans, weapons, equipment and specialists to train the army for the government of the Kuomintang (the Chinese Communist Party was at that time very weak and could not serve as a basis, its Soviet colleagues convinced it to obey the nationalists). The help and temporary unification brought their results - the Chinese were no longer bad exchange in battles.

@looinrims 2 года назад

@@romannerin2329 you just said yourself why it would succeed, the 1.3m men won’t be bound for Western Europe, 26 divisions were rallied during the battle for Moscow, some raised from conscripts, many from the Siberian armies

@colepreston4872 3 года назад

This video not only make clear that why Japan didn’t join the operation but also give a mid finger to those “ Hitler super angry when Japan attack Pearl Harbor “ guy

@grumblesa10 3 года назад

They also didn't bother to tell the Finns until June '41. Literally a couple weeks before the attack...

@romaliop 3 года назад

I'm pretty sure the Finns were made aware of the plans through unofficial channels as early as the winter of 1939-40. Also the agreement with Finland was that they'll join the war if the Soviets strike first and until then even the German troops in Northern Finland would not be allowed to start their operations. So there wasn't much need for the Finns to know the exact date much earlier anyway.

@GeorgeHutchins 2 года назад

This cost the war for the Germans

@prdubi 3 года назад

I'm still a bit lost on why can't Japan see the benefits or any natural resources in the Soviet Far East. Isn't there any oil and rubber and other precious resources Soviet Far East territories or did Japan ever see that they had resources?

@vuktodic1356 3 года назад

Lol no this was not even discovered until like 1960 s there was i think only one mine komosomolsk producing steel and it was very small production Thats not even what japan needs in first place

@prdubi 3 года назад

@@vuktodic1356 but from memoirs, it was being stated by various Japanese researchers who were western educated that the far east region possibly holds valuable resources but what got myself lost is that nobody pursued it due to the animosity of the Navy and Army and also the scientific community of Japan and their various research and development units within. All vying and clamoring for their share of the pie.

@ReSSwend 2 года назад

Only a very small amount of oil was produced in the Soviet part of the Kachatka Peninsula, which the USSR sold to Japan under a concession until 1945. Huge deposits of oil in Siberia were explored only after the war, and the construction of the infrastructure for its extraction and delivery would also take time. Do not forget that Japan has been at war with China, which has been in a state of civil war since 37, and has never been able to capture them. Although the Chinese Army did not even have boots. There is a photo on the Internet of how the Americans transported barefoot Chinese infantrymen to fight in Indochina.

@GeistInTheMachine 2 года назад

I think that if Germany won in Europe and Japan won in Asia, even in the best case scenario, they would come to blows eventually. How soon, I do not know. Seems like the alliance was always a convenience thing. And not any real comraderie or respect. Then again, maybe you could say that about most political arrangements between nations in general.

@kennethferland5579 3 года назад

Because the Germans did not tell the Japanese about Barbarossa, and even if they had known they would not have done anything even if the strongest German pleading had been done. Japan was fully committed to the Southern strategy at this point, and wanted Russia to be the party to mediate the eventual peace with the US, so any war with the USSR was off the table by this point.

@fightefx 3 года назад

Dr. Sorge funkt aus Tokio

@jim99west46 3 года назад

Were not the Germans and Italians supporting Chian Kai Shek fighting the Japabese with weapons and advisors at that time?

@88porpoise 3 года назад

The Nazis largely ceased aiding China in 1937 when open war with Japan commenced. There were already scheduled deliveries and ongoing aid that continued for a while after but massive cuts were made and no further new support was provided.

@zeitgeistx5239 3 года назад

Plus it’s often missed that several German generals helped plan with Chiang, China’s long term strategy of defeating Japan by exploiting its logistical and industrial weakness by defending in depth into interior China.

@romannerin2329 3 года назад

It's funny, the Germans helped China, the USSR helped, then went to war and were replaced by the United States and England. Nobody "liked" the Japanese =)

@ArcticTemper 3 года назад

Germany was a better ally to China than Japan, lol

@501Mobius 3 года назад

How many divisions did Russia actually have in the East in 1941?

@PyromaN93 3 года назад

1,5mln troops, 2500 tanks and 2900 planes - approximately 95 divisions before relocatin part of this troops in the Soviet-German front

@manoleeen 3 года назад

Sadly not all reasons were mentioned. In autumn 41 Soviet Union was one step from disaster. Red army stopped Wehrmacht near Moscow only by relocating large forces from Far East. Japan could destroy SU at that moment, but they did not even try. There were two main reasons: one major and one minor, but very funny. 1. USA. Japanese forces were very busy and highly "entertained" in Pacific war vs USA. 2. Soviet-Japanese oil trade. Almost whole duration of WW2 (till mid 44) soviets supplied Japan with Sakhalin oil to help them in war vs US while getting fuel and other stuff from USA.

@nottoday3817 3 года назад

Judging by the thumbnail picture, I would say because stabbing a bear with a short sword is a bloody bad ideea. You are not Old Shatterhand, for Gods sake

@AK-hi7mg 3 года назад

Like so often the the German high command was wrong about the war in the Pacific .japan lost the moment they attacked pearl harbour .

@webkeeper 2 года назад

I think that Hitler's mentality should also count. As an ultra-nationalist, his pacts with Japan were as good as with the USSR. If the USSR would fall and the US too, somehow, a small provocation would be enough for Hitler to finish up with Japan too.

@maximilienrobespierre7927 3 года назад

Germany: *declares war on USA just because Japan attacked USA* Japan: *doesn't declare war on USSR when Germany attacked USSR* Germany: "This has been th worst trade deal in history of trade deals, maybe ever." (Yes I know that Barbarossa happened first, don't ruin the joke)

@jrooney58 3 года назад

A more interesting question was why did Hitler declare war on the US after Pearl Harbor. This is particularly puzzling if your argument that Germany wanted to deter the US from entering the war is correct.

@vuktodic1356 3 года назад

Well he did not Read atlantic charter and find out why fdr is responsible for us entery into the war He did not officially declare war on germany but selling war materials sinking german u boats and escorting your and british ships in uk waters is like what? Undeclared war? Hitler by used this to justify his declaration of war if japan did not attack usa it would be possibly early 1942 when germany would declare war on usa but nobody was idiot and this was a strategic move because usa provoked the axis to attack them nobody else

@leftcoaster67 3 года назад

Because Japan didn't do so well in Gol.

@cavscout888 3 года назад

Bernard says 'Japan,' "Japanese,' or 'Pacific' and I give the video high priority, as I know I'll learn something and it'll be entertaining. Commenting also helps the algorithm, and other people need less communism in their lives!

@zainmudassir2964 3 года назад

Preferably socialism. Capitalist greed causing too many wars. US war in Afghanistan is now in 20th year and private military contractors (mercenaries) are heavily involved because too much money is being made.

@DirkusTurkess 3 года назад

@@zainmudassir2964 "Socialism" like Northern Europe, or Venuzuela?

@zainmudassir2964 3 года назад

@@DirkusTurkess preferably socialism in Afghanistan in 1970s with increased literacy and women rights. It was a noble experiment which was destroyed by Islamic Extremists which was supported the US and other 'Democracies'