Barrel vs Barrel | Lapco T15 Rifled Barrel x Nemesis Rifled Barrel Ep.2 

Looks like it :P

Meh, sort of. You can get somewhat better air efficiency with some lengths more than others depending on the operating pressure of your gun. 10”-14” seems to be optimum for most guns. Any shorter and you’re losing acceleration. Any longer and you’re adding unnecessary friction to the paintball. Otherwise, yes, you’re absolutely right, it really doesn’t matter. Go with whatever length you prefer, because of all the things that affect paintball performance, this is pretty close to the bottom. With bore size, the answer is, sort of. According to scientifically and objectively conducted testing, it generally goes like this: Overbore: low air efficiency, high velocity consistency, ever so slightly better accuracy (the difference is almost negligible, though) Match bore: moderate air efficiency, low velocity consistency, moderate accuracy Underbore: high air efficiency, high velocity consistency, ever so slightly poorer accuracy (again, almost negligibly so) So what affects paint accuracy? By an overwhelming margin, the answer is the quality of your paint. A 30 year old Tippmann with its stock barrel shooting tourney paint will get smaller groupings than the latest speedball marker shooting mediocre paint any day of the week.

It does affect man. I have done that before. More length means more area to transfer spin to a FS that have a horizontal spin. Of course tight bore its important to transfer the spin as you just mentioned.

Agree with you Length doesn't really matter with normal paintball but FS has totally different projectile physics.

Length def. too in terms of rifled barrels

I guess this dirty dad joke flew over a lot of heads 🤷‍♂️ lol

^^ This is a really good suggestion. Same MG100, same barrels, same distance, same number of shots, but do it with round balls. This will help us decide which is the better barrel if we play both FSR and round ball, which is pretty much every mag fed player.

At least they got to remember to adjust the FPS to the barrel then. If its to high or to low it will fly off. Just like with the Hammerhead barrels. adjust to the fps sweetspot for that barrel. Alot of people dont know about this or forget it and get shity accuracy with the balls going all over the place. From my own experience with the nemesis at least, when i have it crono for around 290 its fps with round ball often fall down to 275-280 where its shooting good with roundball. But not always, depends on the bore of the roundball.

These are rifled barrels, you definitely don't want to use roundball in them.

@@josh4461 yes they are rifled. But you can use round ball. Just like hammerhead are rifled barrel made for round ball. Only thing difrent is how the rifling on the nemesis is. Since they cut in the ball. Brittle paint gets shreded. But magfed dont usaly use brittle paint. Yes a smoothboore would be better than rifled. But for magfed running maybe 50% round vs first strike the barrel need to work on both. Then you can sacrefice accuracy on first strike with smoothboore or the round ball with rifled. So a test on what would shoot better round ball of the top first strike barrels could be intresting.

Noipr0x Literally everything you typed about barrel sweet spotting and balls flying off to the sides if velocity is too high/low is complete hogwash. When Hammerhead came out with their barrel, they made a lot of really ridiculous claims about their product. Don’t buy into it.

Might as well add in the Lapco if they have it already...

Roundball Isn't good with rifled barrels. Round balls take funky curves after 15 or so meters. Freak is what you wanna run with normal paint

Ya that bore is way too small now. Invest in a flexhone and open up the bore a little.

@@mackiv8612 hasn't been too small in my experience they work just fine! I'll even make a video, I bet I can beat his grouping!

Your .683 barrel has something to do with what, exactly?

@@Tomcat82 the fact that the Lapco barrel had some drifters compaired to the nemesis, and I think it's because he was shooting from a .686 rather than a .683

Novagunner I’m not sure I would say the Lapco really had any drifters. It’s accuracy was essentially equal to the Nemesis. Furthermore, let’s recognize that this barrel test here is far from being objective or scientifically sound, and therefore tells us almost nothing about these barrels. The gun should be locked in a vice to rule out human error in aiming. That’s the last thing you want skewing your results. A larger sample size of shots for both barrels is needed to help rule out random chance. Grouping size should be measured and statistically analyzed to determine whether any discernible difference is actually present rather than one guy looking at the two targets and picking which one he feels like came closer to the bullseye. And where’s the control? Results like these don’t mean much without a non-rifled barrel to act as your control. Also, I didn’t see any info as to the size of the spread. What is the diameter of these targets? If you know, let me know, because I must be missing that detail.

It's all dependent on the way the marker shoots. Every marker will have a barrel length that will be optimized for it depending on the speed at which you are shooting. usualy around 12 inches will be the best. The most important part however is the inner diameter matching the size of the balls you are shooting. A longer barrel doesn't provide any range improving capabilities.

I am using TMC for a second season now and I swapped the standart barrel for the aftermarket after first two games and result is noticable. I have Killhouse 12 inch barrel now and I say that any longer and I wouldnt be able to clear houses, and guys at the shop said that there is no increase in accuracy and range after 12 inch for round ball, and I can see that.

I use a 16 inch rifled barrel on my tmc and it shoots extremely straight over long distances

@@stupidxninjapb8524 Do you have a link to the barrel or a name? Your videos are pretty cool!

​@@logansmith9437 Thank you :) I guess since i'm playing mag-fed and don't burn through my paint very fast I should just stick to the barrel I have right now?

Yes. Its an extremepy common fact in ballistics. Twist rate that is relivent to your projectile provides optimum performance

By twist rate, I assume you mean gyroscopic spin. Yes, of course gyroscopic spin stabilizes the aerodynamic flight path of bullet shaped projectiles. I’m not questioning that. My question is whether these either of these rifled barrels produce any discernible difference in performance to smoothbore barrels. There’s two reasons why I’m asking this: 1.) First Strike rounds already impart gyroscopic spin on their own immediately upon exiting the muzzle, even when shot from smoothbore barrels. It’s possible that rifling increases accuracy by initiating gyroscopic slightly sooner, but is there any actual improvement made in performance? Maybe, but we don’t know until we actually test it in an objective and scientifically sound manner to rule out random chance, human error, confirmation bias, etc. Until then, we’re just assuming that a significant performance difference exists. 2.) I’m not wholly convinced that the type of rifling in Lapco and Hammerhead barrels imparts any spin at all on FSRs. Unlike the Nemesis, which cuts its rifling directly into the side wall of FSRs, Lapco and HH rifling expands away from the projectile rather than towards it. There doesn’t seem like there’s much to prevent projectiles from simply gliding right over all the rifling while being blasted down the inside of the bore. And if this is the case, then this may essentially make render them no different in functionality and accuracy to smoothbore barrels. But again, we can’t know either way until it’s properly tested.

@@Tomcat82 If the FSR leaves the barrel without spin (tight smooth bore barrel) you expend energy to spin it up and have 1 axial shift (shift in axis of rotation). If the FSR leaves the barrel spinning in the wrong direction (loose smooth barrel with blow by air spinning it backwards) you expend more energy to spin it up to speed and have 2 axial shifts. Rifled barrels that are tight enough to grip the round AND spin it in the correct direction get better accuracy and range. Hustle paintball made the first video showing this with the Dye DAM. They were shooting the .683 LAPCO barrel and that is back when the FSR were from the old mold at .688.

@@Tomcat82 by twist rate i mean twist rate. Google it. Its a ballistic term.

@@Tomcat82 rifling with fsr has been tested to death dynamically by the companies that make peripherals for them, and even by simply intelligent consumers (shapedprojectiletesting.com). Beyond that, there are non finned rounds they may never come out, but have been prototyped enough at least to test that that the rifling indeed does matter. The fins in fsr also flex a bit, so when the pocket of air hits the back of the round it helps engage the rifling.

It’s already been done to death by punkworks and others. There is essentially zero performance difference (accuracy, velocity consistency, and air efficiency) between a rifled barrel and an over-bored smoothbore barrel when shooting roundball.

Howshould a rifled bartel help on Roundball?? HOW???????? Jesus..

Hmmm, what do you think? 75 yards with roundball, sounds right

mg100 is ac threaded

Sam G And why do you think the barrel threading would make an iota of difference to the performance anyway?

@@Tomcat82 I don't, because there isn't, just answering his question

What about a t15 fs rifle

@@przemyslawjaworowski9320 idk what about it? They used an mg100 in the vid. The old vid was a t15

the barrels were approx 16". we are probably going to compare the hammerhead with the nemesis in a future episode.

What is a horizontal stringing barrel? And what do you mean that the Nemesis will keep you on target longer?

*It's very simple,* *The Hammerhead, Lapco, or any barrel that gives you a horizontal pattern will be less accurate the farther you shoot it, and you will consistently miss a human size target at long ranges.* *The Nemesis barrel is a vertical pattern, so as far as your gun will shoot - the round will still hit a human sized target.*

wow what a bullshit.. again a nemesis fanboy desperately trying to ignore the fact that nemesis isn't worth it lol

*it's pretty obvious you don't own a Nemesis, I have two.* *Run along now.*

@@veil1792 Exactlyly except with 1 mistake. The LAPCO is vertically stringing due to more velocity fluctuation due to the drag used to spin up the round. Even in the Carmatech tests the LAPCO barrel was vertically stringing. If you are concerned with the horizontal pattern then the LAPCO is the only way to go.