Barret vs Dyne Boss Fight - Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth 

To be fair, Shinra - Hojo in particular - broke Sephiroth too.

​@@nicolasbanidol2371Yes, but Sephiroth happily embraces evil with open arms and never regrets what he did.

And kill him

Are you down to have sex

Barret has the best voice actor in my opinion.

@@RamenReignss He's great, definitely think him and cody christian deserve to be nominated... I don't know too much about other games coming out this year so I wouldn't be surprised if there's like 3 ff7 rebirth VA's nominated lol

@@linkshunter608 which one is Cody Christian?

Fav part of the game honestly. These two are always getting in each others way. For once that dies and a true friendship is born.

I remember when the first game came out and some woke articles were saying it was racist cause he sounded too black stereotype.. Man screw the woke s**t. And this Sweet Baby Inc crap. This is how you do story telling. Barret is an amazing character.

nah. should have been wesley snipes.

@@ssppeeaarr Nope. Mr. Bentley is an epic pick! Barret’s voice isn’t even his normal voice!

@@Swordmaster7th Why did you censor yourself saying the word S**t? You're not a woke hamas lover are you kid? Better not! Also why are you even into this game? It's about stopping climate change. Stopping authoritarians. And it has black people and strong mary sue type female characters. Things that alt right incels like yourself can't stand lolz. WTFF ARE YOU EVEN DOING WITH YOUR LIFE KID? Personally I'd walk into traffic and stay there if I was as brainless and pathetic as you. Some articles talking about games will never be as bad as a creep like yourself going on a mass shooting which happens just about every day with your kind. Eat my ballz loser.

Barrets VA also played the original game when he was much younger so he has knowledge on the kind of character Barret is

John Eric Bentley, the man💪first emotional scene for me. Touch hearing Barret scream out.

he killed it when the Plate fell and now does it again for Barrets backstory the man is such a good voice actor

Award for that exhausting comical voice??

​@@applekicks3902you need an award for being a prick

Same here, absolutely did not expect to tear up at a character I never really cared much for in the original. I’m so glad they approached this backstory with as much effort and attention as they did. Even the soundtrack was spot on.

@@Evanz111 It's funny. Playing the game as a really young kid... I must have been close to 10 years old. So I was too dumb to follow the story line and didn't remember much about Dyne. Growing up though little bits of reality seeped into my brain. Learning about how awful human history is... How it's often filled with militant groups of azzholes going around pushing around small town folk who are kind and decent and just want to get by in life... Reminded me of what happened to Dyne but in a vague way... Here comes rebirth to retell the story in greater detail and mannn it really hits you sooo much harder. Remember folks. Never let a corporation get too much control.

@@soyborne.bornmadeandundone1342 Yeah, I was very young when playing the original too. Surreal experience seeing a remake of it, whilst also being old enough to finally understand the themes and have enough experience to relate to the characters. I don’t think much can create a strong feeling like that.

This made me tear up a bit.

Same, wasn't expecting it to hit the way it did

I just passed this part not too long ago, it hit hard

They Made Dyne have a last stand this time, because in OG he just dies. Then at it, we don't get to have his weapon either.

kinda ruined it makin dyne curse barret till his last breath n oh how dyne unalived himself... it was way more impactful. then giving barret even more guilt to carry on. smh square. lol. suprised he didnt go off the cliff after all that. also no momento of marlens mom. epic fail. but their battle here in rebirth is hype.

lol no

Agreed.

Agreed, they improved him quite a bit imo. In og ff7, it always felt like he was less interesting than Tifa, Cid, Nanaki, and even Yuffie and Vincent at certain events, but in Remake/Rebirth they really dove more into his story and personality. I love the "remorseful hero" type like Cyan in FF6 and Cecil in FF4 the best out of all of the FF archetypes.

Nope it's surprisingly Cait Sith In this scene the emotional character is Dyne

@@xectyein133 Cait Sith is a silly fun character, but not an emotional character.

where is his grave? or is it where you fought him

@@FazFaz it’s where you fought him

Thank you

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VS the orig where barret cries, Cloud and gang just stand there going meh... And then the next part of the game acts as if Dyne never existed. LOL WHAT? This was much better lol.

I wish they had done the same for everyone with Jenova Lifeclinger. Someone the gang deeply cares about literally dies in front of their eyes, but everyone stays in quippy anime mode during the fight. It's a little jarring. Not the end of the world, but a fair nitpick.

during Cloud's solo fight against Gilga- oop, I mean, against the "Eccentric Swordsman," Cloud will say "I'm gonna sever all your limbs"

The Tales of Series does that a lot, in fact they never shut up during battles lol

“C’mon I can still save him” got me

I've been consistently impressed by him. I'm not surprised he would pour his whole self into that moment.

@@lundylow He poured his whole self into Barret entirely! But this moment takes the cake.

That's what real, fresh grief sounds like. If you shed tears, it's because you know what losing someone feels like.

@@salazardeltoro4561 I lost a cat. Does that count?😔

​@loganthevillager9176 of course my friend 😢

his personality look kinda like harvey two face.

Omg this right I couldn’t put my finger one it lol he does favor Bryan

With a little bit of las plagas tentacles

No he looks like a crackhe4d from breaking bad. The design didn't do much justice to him but i can see the high value for the "broken man" theme

Heisenberg? The breaking bad dude? Jk i kno what you mean lol i just thought it was funny

Same thing happened in the original 😂😂

@@kriss007G That's the beauty of this remake, absolute tone whiplash, stupid minigames out the ass, it's so wild how lock-step the developer's vision was with the fans

@@ILoveEvadingTax gotta love the lovely mess that is rebirth. It's so insane that even if you don't love this kind of thing in gaming... You still just end up loving it some how haha.

Yeah it was nice to see closure for Dyne, his life was destroyed and taken by Shinra's greed and power.

She looked surprisingly similar to Tifa imo

Is she alive?

​@@sbj6781Dyne believed both her and Marlene died. Eleanor is unfortunately gone but Barret saved Marlene

Ill be real, after AC and KH and other stuff i didnt like Cloud at all bc he was constantly this sad, broken little thing and i hated to constantly feel sorry for him. Like at this point, if life sucks so much, it just feels ludicrous. Remake Cloud is so much better and it reminded me that in OG, he was beaten down, but still strong in spirit. Hes a good man who isnt just fronting to be a badass, he is one.

@@KOTEBANAROT it’s actually a crime my first exposure to cloud was the edgelord sad sack. The more I’ve learned of 7 over the years the more butchered the KH version seems to feel. This also applies to the other FF characters, some to a lesser extent but it just feels like a parody now.

​@@Kozmokastat least we now have the remakes

@@KOTEBANAROT Fronting to be a badass is kid Cloud. Adult Cloud is the real deal haha.

There is also just technical limitations, im sure no one wanted to created a completly new model just for that one scene

Tricky to try and get some of the darker scenes while still keeping a T rating. But I still think they did a great job. Its probably why you don't see Barret and Dyne actually getting their arms shot off in the flashback. So they instead went with the "It was just so mangled it was better to remove the limb and get a prosthetic" which is fine.

@@rosenrot234 Also kind of unrealistic that anything short of like a minigun or something with an absurdly huge calibar could completely sever not just one but both of their limbs. More believable that the arm would just be mangled beyond saving.

@@shakeNbake91586 Well yeah that too. I was thinking more about the gore and how we don't really see stab wounds on the body showing gore or anything. Characters are instead clothed or just get a slice like Tifa did when they had her get her torso slashed. Anytime they actually show blood it does a damn good job at telling the player "Okay this is serious". Like when blood gets on Clouds face

I found that a nice touch of realism.

Carrying a big part of metal as part of your body.. Now that's something you have to live with it

Seriously, you'd think learning that Marlene was still alive would make him feel better, but instead it made him feel worse; the fact that his daughter has a father that's a killer pushed him over the edge.

Other way around Cloud was the singer XD great line though FFA was hilarious

@@xanderasherclegain5710 yep

What’s is the name of the song?

Dyne is Rambo and Barret is Trautman. That's perfect.

Cyan was the friggin man

@@Brandonweifu I always love the remorseful hero type. Barret, Cyan, and Cecil are three of my favorite ff characters ever.

​@@spicysauce6533same! I have a type, definitely. I also really like Sazh from ff13 (it was like, one of the only things i liked abt this game). Sazh was a sort of a foil for Barret - both black gunsman hanging out with weather-named tough soldier, but Sazh, while also hating the world and being filled with anger and bitterness, turned this hatred onto himself. You know, how when some people externalize the anger by finding an enemy to hate, and some people start hating themselves. I always thought Sazh was extremely well written, very realistic portrayal of a su*cidal person. He jokes a lot, but if you watch, you'll notice that his jokes are all filled with self-hate and how much the world sucks. So when he finally puts his gun to his head, its a shock, but theres been many red flags leading up to it. Just like barret, he thought the world is a hateful place filled with ugliness and he couldnt protect bits of beauty he loved, and unlike barret, he thought it was useless to try at all. Its similar to what happened to Dyne and it shows how strong Barret is. He did make a lot of mistakes but ultimately he still held firm belief that you CAN do somethign about it, that the hope ISNT lost. Hes very deeply hurt, and at times misguided, but he never seases to try and be better. Barret is a true leader and its good that he makes mistakes and yet doesnt let that break him, he always tries to learn. Hes an example for us all.

@KOTEBANAROT Oh nice I'll look out for him. I'm playing all of the games in order, and when I get to 13 I'll be on the look out.

If Cyan didn't meet Sabin (and Shadow), I imagine you'd get someone like Dyne. The last living member of one's homeland, and a bloodlust-driven man driven by vengeance.

For me Dyne wanting to kill Marlene was kinda weird. It dehumanizes him, and If anything, makes me care less about his death. He just wasn't him anymore, he was dead already, so why should I care. It's disturbing in a fucked up way, not a tragic one. When the game makes you believe he actually may have some redemption, and he simply decides he's not worth living, that means he did it with what's left of his sanity, not just because his brain simply went kaput to the point of thinking about killing his own daughter. That's the death of a broken human, not just a carcass turning off. But I will say that there IS some cheesiness in all those soldiers coming again and again in specific moments so the drama could happen the way it did and the party kept holding back so Barret could have his moment. Just Barret and Dyne would feel more personnal. And I definitely agree that some lines were just too good to be left out. Barret saying his hands were as stained as Dyne's may be one of the best dialogues in the OG, and the game is full of good ones.

@@Daniel_Rodrigues_89 Yeah, the original game didn't actually want you to really feel bad for Dyne or feel like he still had a chance to redeem himself. You were supposed to have pity for Barret that his best friend was still "alive", but such a shell of himself that Barret essentially has to watch his best friend die again for a 2nd time. And by portraying Dyne as "too far gone" Barret has no choice but to let go of the past. The character development is all for Barret. In Rebirth they rewrote the story to still show Dyne as disturbed, but less psychotic and much more sympathetic. Which is why they give him the sort of sacrificial death scene (very similar to Zack's in Crisis Core.) For the original line from Barret about having too much blood on his own hands to carry Marlene, it was probably removed because in the original story Barret was responsible for the civilian deaths from the Reactor bombings. And he knew that was his fault even though he wouldn't admit it to anyone. In the Remake it was rewritten so that Avalanche only attempted to disable the reactor cores and President Shinra blew up his own reactors. So Shinra is responsible for all the innocent civilian deaths, not Avalanche. So in the context of the Remake trilogy, Barret doesn't really have innocent blood on his hands. So they cut that line because Barret's character arc isn't really going that direction anymore. I doubt that Cait Sith/Reeve will confront Barret on the Highwind about the Reactor bombing later on in the Remake trilogy. That scene will probably be cut completely or happen in a totally different context.

Remember a theory that in part 3 Zack would have his own party, Him, Biggs, Sonan, Zangan, Cissnei, and Dyne

i miss the shock of thinking barret actually shot up the place, but i dont think that would work in rebirth because he's so much more fleshed out, you'd know he'd never do that

@@Daniel_Rodrigues_89dyne wanted everything to die. If you go back and look you realize he wanted barret to kill him when he realized Marlene was still alive. That was because he wanted to watch the whole world burn and he didn’t want that yo happen ti Marlene. He knew and admitted he was too far gone It wasn’t weird he just had a moment of realization that he couldn’t survive for the sake of Marlene

I said that too, should of saved ‘Maximum fury’ as the move for getting Dynes weapon, would of made so much sense.

She takes her mako 'roids every day! 😂

​@@MrReubenTishkoffGiven that she could throw hands with Tifa in the original (the same girl who could suplex Kaiju-sized Weapons), it's entirely possible that's the case lol

She's got enough silicone to absorb the shock lol

Honestly i do believe Scarlet gives so little shit about her humanity she would take up hojos enhancements

@@aaronhussey8522 I think the enlarged lungs are proof. 😏

such an obvious question to ask yet nobody thought to ask it . . . they just immediately assumed the black guy did it

@@keeganlafferty1395 Barret's a wanted terrorist and is well known for having a gun on his arm. It's kinda an easy assumption given Dyne's managed to go under the radar for so long.

@@patrickflying17 but has there been reports of him attacking civilians? I don't think so

Dyne had a cloak on during the shooting though.

@@Rollenstone people also would've noticed that the gun was on his left arm, not his right

The entire FF7 game was already a criticism for capitalism, natural resource exploitation, and climate change before Greta Thunberg even born.

Why blame Barret for something the whole town voted on

⁠​⁠@@Soniman001I think it’s because he convinced the people into voting for the reactor being built, or at least was the loudest voice in support for it.

​@@MattProfittAnd like Tifa said in OG FF7, it's not Barret's fault that Shinra lied and hurt all of them with their empty promises.

@wchan39 It is realistic though. People need someone to blame. I think everyone was skeptical of Shinra, but Barrett “pushed” for the change the most. Even if he had good intentions and none of it was his fault, ultimately, people look to the closest person they can find fault with to take their anger out on. Shinra could’ve very well burnt the city to the ground if they said no, but they said yes, and a big part of that was because of Barrett. So all anyone can think of is “if it weren’t for Barrett, we wouldn’t be in this situation.”

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@@hunterthejokethegamerandst5567 Cloud: Yeah let's go kill people

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Loved it

Two men with guns for arms can shoot millions sof bullets at each other and not die??? Final fantasy 7!!!!

Let's see, sneaking up on 2 dudes too busy machine-gunning each other? Yes.

TBF Shinra soldiers are pretty stupid, they always were.

Sardaukuar? 😅

In a junkyard of all places 😂

Uww that’s weird!

@@RE_CAN It's aTFS reference

@@andredesouzadovale1426 so it’s mine!

​@@andredesouzadovale1426so was his comment lmao

Never had the time I guess

He did. Just too similar to the former.

@@bukojoetheslapsoils8273being an ex Soldier is also so intrinsically part of Cloud at this point that he probably just didn’t have it in him to drastically change it until Advent Children

@@loganwilliams6594 but he technically never was a soldier

didn’t wanna do it

not even close lmfao, og dyne was way more tragic and dark

Eh... I liked that there was more focus on Dyne and Barrett's past. But having Dyne's last words be a spiteful potshot at Barret kind of missed for me. The whole deal was that Dyne had realized how far gone he was. And while Barret realized he should be the same way, he recognized the only thing separating himself from Dyne was that Barret had Marlene and Dyne didn't. So Dyne committed alt+F4. Not to say this new, spiteful, hate filled Dyne can't work. I actually like the concept. But where do these Shinra troops keep coming from? And why does no one notice them until there's like 10 right on top of them?

But seeing Dyne's reason for his attack was understood by Dio's easedropping, seeing him at the start for Barrett to see how far gone he was painful to him for any hope to saving Dyne from himself. And seeing Dyne going out in his own terms was better instead of dropping from a cliff, him going out in rebirth showed abit to Barrett that somehow he did manage through him abit. But nothing could bring back what he had lost: his wife and lost time with his Daughter

@@itsclean4827 Completely disagree, dude. Dyne's flawless voice acting alone sells the emotion much more any PS1 RPG could ever do with its blocky 3D. And I'm a fan of all the classics.

I can see that. I felt it was symbolism of shinra has unlimited power and reach. They destroyed their lives on a wim and Shinra will still march on. Also about spiteful, he does protect Barret from Shinra even if it's a suicide. He's lost everything, every part of himself to what Barret did. It makes sense he wouldn't forgive him. ​@@elevate07

OH

They couldn’t get it perfect. But they still made it a powerful and emotional scene

They kinda did the opposite by Barret leaving Marlene’s picture with Dyne’s body which I think is just as touching

@@MattProfitt yeah that part really hit hard

Nah, it was absolutely necessary. Shinra took everything from Dyne due to their greed. No matter how many he kills they'll keep coming and coming. That's why he says "Shinra! Always Shinra" They are powerful and endless in this world. That's important foreshadowing in this scene as we try to save the planet from Shinra.

@@awtodorDisagree. It's redundant writing because they already took everything away in the flashback. In the OG he takes the next step of losing his mind to the point of wanting to kill his daughter and self-destructing. There's a a better progression in the OG. "Shinra bad" is just redundancy.

​@@waves8545it does not matter how he dies,in this he tells barret He has to leave with this guilt which traumatized barret even further and in part 3 we might get more barret development cause of that

​@@stampoulisrafael5262Finally some who gets it

​@@waves8545Let's be honest Shinra killing him here was justified so I didn't really pull "Shinra bad" he self destructs just like og just in a fire fight this time

Could be interesting...

Yeah I probably preferred the original scene too but this is good in it’s own way

Either that, or the payload is so god-damn small in caliber it’s little better than a BB gun… which would make more sense then it probably should…

Considering the small damage that Barrett and the other gun users do, it's likely something like rimfire.

There's boob physics, and then there's anti-physics boobs. Yeah, you don't want to pander, but... at a certain point you're breaking some suspension of disbelief.

Shinra got to it before us.

it was unnecessarily dark tho. just pure edge and it was weird. Some call the new one bad writing because it changed the original, but the original was just distasteful.

@@bukojoetheslapsoils8273Yeah I can agree that Dyne's story in the original was a bit TOO dark.

thats just how a madman or a psychopath really is, they dont care if its her daughter, wife or whatever they just wanna inflict pain and death@@bukojoetheslapsoils8273

@@bukojoetheslapsoils8273Nah. Original was better. Grounded, unhinged. Just because it bothers your sensitivities doesn't necessarily mean it's distasteful.

@@waves8545go play your roblox game while we play the modern one we don’t give af which ones better

Yeah that part just really confused me and had me thinking he got caught by Shinra and got experimented on.

My first thought because I'm also a One Piece fan was Dyne has turned into Eustass Kidd. I'm wondering if anyone else thought the same! 😂

I also noticed a considerable absence of coal in this sequence. 1/5 stars, would not play again.

source? will be checking that out with freecam when the game comes to PC

​@FazFaz Yamazaki's (cloud's mocap) recent stream when he got to this part. It's on his yt channel.

Thats cool. Never noticed.

If you mean Dyne's VA, it'd Dave B. Mitchell