7 Biggest Story Changes in Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth 

Thats what im saying this storyline should be the ff8 remake

it would be MAD if they end FF7 with a cross over of FF8 with Ultimecia peeking in

lol she’s still tryin to figure it out

SEEEEEEED!!!!

Im not suprise since the game went full kingdom hearts 😂

final fantasy after marvel's dr strange

What's kinda interstering is that the words 'Multiverse of Madness' was spelt using the same Final Fantasy font in the Marvel movie.

Cloud needs to summon Doctor Strange on his Materia speed dial.

Exactly, garbage

Sadly

Yeah we won't know until we see a bag of chips

Pretty sure hes just jenova poisoned and its not real

Or the dying time line, but she's definitely not dead, that's what that fracture was about, you changed fate, so she was forced out of rebirth's time line and replaced with a version of her that was dead.

Pretty sure the whole story of this game is about fate not being avoidable for long, whispers or no. Cloud saved her, but then the universes merged. Leaving her fate the same as OG ff7

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Almost like its another Cid than we've ever known.

@@SwobyJ oooohhhhhhhhh....multiverse baby!!🤑🤑🤑

Not really. Cid is well traveled and you always start somewhere. Cid started from the bottom and worked his way up as a pilot.

my only concerns with Cid is that he doesn't curse like he used to and he's too damn happy.

@@Berserk0653they barely showed his character to judge him

They don't understand what they are seeing because they don't understand all the source material past the original ff7. This video is terrible.

This makes the most sense. It would seem that even though there are tangent universes, there somehow seems to be a link to each person. Like, Aerith is our Aerith in every tangent. Though some tangent universes fail/die, there is a link to each individual person and their tangent selves. The fabric of time and space is likely the reason they don’t share memories, with the exception being that of Aerith and also Marlene. Perhaps it has to do with her being Cetra, or her white materia as it may only be used by an ancient. Her white materia allowed her to share memories between her tangent selves, and it also seem as if she touches someone they too may see the cracks in time of the universe. Marlene being example 1 and Cloud being example 2 as he can now see ripples in the sky and he can also see Aerith.

No no no no. This is more confusing. If its the same aerith, then why does she have the white materia fixed again?

@@rhovenom04When she goes to the timeline where Zack survived with Cloud she takes the white materia from the Aerith that Zack saved from Shinra at the beginning of the game. That's why when they return Aerith takes the full white materia and gives Cloud the empty one

You are indeed correct, whats why cloud wakes up confused asking where are they

Even though everything seems to be true to size, it is still a weird miniature of what it actually and realistically looks like.

@@HumbleRumbleDE People are quick to forget just how big things really are. A realistically sized world would take so long to simply travel through that you'd be sick of the game before you finish the first chapter.

​​@@LlortnerofI agree. Why would you want a game where it takes more than 6 hours using a plane to reach somewhere?

@@theseekersoflight2271 6h during which you can't really do anything but wait, at that. And while some people might not mind playing a flight simulator for 6h, many simply wouldn't have the time.

It might be smaller but the short distance between areas in the game isn't necessarily supposed to reflect that. Since they can't make an entire realistically sized planet to explore, the world is sort of condensed and we're just supposed to pretend it's bigger if that makes sense. It's much like the map in Horizon Zero Dawn and Forbidden West where you're in what was once the US but it's condensed in such a way that you can explore Montana within a few minutes

Sephiroth took the rains since that’s the same Sephiroth from Advent Children. He said: “Ill do it myself” 😂

true but the implication is still there tho, we see aerith died in cloud arms and we also see the gang at the lake which is implied that cloud put her in that lake

​@@kaycex1 Yes but as the audience we have been intentionally denied that scene. He spoke the lines but they were muted.

@@kaycex1 it’s not the same

Maybe they will put it in part 3 for a recap

But the Aerith at the Church definitely died after sacrificing herself Its similar to her ability in combat

Pathetic...

They butchered Dyne entirely. They had some random thugs beat him up, tie him to a chair and leave him to die, then made him to be some PTSD hero. He was supposed to be the baddest man in Corel Prison. Which they turned into fun minigame happy place.

Your all whiny nostalgia babies who are used to bad anime level stories.

Y'all don't know what "censored" means.

@@Geats-IX Ironic, considering this is an example of bad anime fanfic. The nostalgic claim is weak. People are allowed to criticize inferior writing when it occurs. It has zero to do with nostalgia. Also, you know many of us still like the game, right?

Or link in the ocarina in time 😂

Dream worlds within them. City of Dying Dreams, Tifa's Dream.

Yes and if you notice people deliberately refer to monsters as Fiends - another callback that is probably just the devs messing with us because they know it's a popular theory

Also Aerith’s staff dance in the temple of ancients just screamed Yuna’s sending cutscene. Lots of little nods!

​@@tanders4444 YES

Also the ancient writing in the temple looks eerily similar to the Yu yevon symbols

That would be an interesting thing to see in Part 3

Exactly, everything that happens is explainable with the lifestream and the original game

@@TeAXIIIT13no it’s not lol

Rather than having a multiverse as the canon, to tie-in the life/dead cycle of Lifestream makes much more sense and much more consistent with the lore.

@@Kr12B it also lines up with what the devs have said about following the OG and linking up to/adding upto AC. A multiverse wouldn’t do any of that and is counter to the themes of the original

Cloud be high off that mako ☠️☠️😂😂😂

High off those fossil fuels.

FF7 Clouds search for Advil.

So nothing changed to the original xD

Ff7: string theory

They really shipped Clerith in this game 😅. Plus, I’m not sure Cloud knows Aerith is dead. His mind is a little…messed up, and he doesn’t deal with death well 😅

@@natecarrasco7085 True. If we look at it from Tifa's perspective, Cloud _really_ has gone mentally ill in the end of the game

Omg you're right!

Actually Seven.And it's not a case 😏

Confusing indeed. I’ve read one explanation saying that in that moment, Cloud saw visions of multiple realities, including one where he stopped Sephiroth. However, ultimately he is still in the reality where she dies. Whatever the explanation, it seems to be Multiverse shenanigans that IMO didn’t positively contribute to this story.

As Sephiroth explained, defying fate creates branch realities. By saving Aerith, he split the timeline again, where one version died & the other survived. Cloud seems to be straddling the two realities, hence he sees the giant tear in the sky & Aerith (which the other party members can't see)

​​@@MinishDude this is an excellent interpretation of him being able to see her and the fracture. Haven't thought about this

What it is mostly obvious imo is that we saw two different variations of the same event, just like we say many different variations previously in Zack's event where he went to Shinra, he went to Biggs, he couldn't choose what to do, and so on. Those scenes were preparing us for that exact moment. What happened there will be answered in the next game but my theories are either Sephirot pulled another Aerith from another world that he actually killed, or he pulled the entire team to an universe where he managed to get to her. Crucial points are we didn't see two pivotal moments. Aerith being stabbed, and her burial. There must be a reasoning behind not showing them

@@anothermarvelfan5142 no he actually saved her in that moment because when aeirth joins the final fight she says thank you for what he did.

Sephiroth can’t directly attack in the physical world, he can only operate through the black cape guys. He wants Shinra away so they can’t use the cannon against his barrier on the northern crater.

Exactly. Sephiroth isn't fully "alive" following him being thrown into the livestream.

Maybe they shouldn't have called it a Remake then

​​@@dragonwarriorz1maybe you should just get over it and enjoy two excellent games for what they are. Remakes in film and video game world are rarely 1 for 1 copies, and the "Remake" title was clearly meant as a play on words, seeing as the games are still mostly faithful to the original.

@@kk_33 No

​@@dragonwarriorz1 the title Remake is appropriate because it is a title. Literally our characters were remaking the story. The word remake wasn't just a simple adjective to describe the game. It was the title

@@Nemo.404 "Remake" implies the same plot points but remade. Not a sequel. Don't be disingenuous.

Because no one ever cared about Biggs, wedge and jessue

Honestly the Biggs reveal was the biggest disappointment of the story for me! So sad he lived only to die in a flashback!

​@@josephosullivan9891He lived to die in an alternate timeline, not a flashback. But, yes, still sad. As if it was inevitable.

Bro literally talked about it in the video 💀

@@SolomonRasputin damn I'm dumb

Ff7: string theory

It’s not a multiverse. That’s what people with braindead reading comprehension have been interpreting the ending in Rebirth as. It’s simply the livestream from og FFVII. When Aerith, Zack etc die, they appear in the “other realm” which is just the lifestream where everyone goes to after they die anyway - except here in the remake they actually show it.

The problem is while it might be a split timeline, or likely they are already Dead it's still dumb and lazy and feels like the most basic emotional tugging and oversaturation of actually feeling for the story and characters we loved

​@@SoulsLordsthat doesn't make any damn sense

​@@SoulsLordsSure as hell sounds like a multiverse.

So basically yes but also no

They make a lot of games for Disney and FF7 characters fought against Goofy and Donald in KH so how is this a surprise?

They are playing a huge chess session against each other

for me it was the strengh of ff7. a broken cast that wasnt perferct but all had their redemption arcs. cloud with his delusions and jumbled memories of zack to cover his cowardly self. red and the facade he put to hide the shame about his father, barret and his destructive shinra hate cause of his past. cid as a man grumpy with regrets who finnaly can accomplish his dream and face the future.

@@alvercaine8893 shame cid was downplayed in this game

They already made the crisis core remake called Reunion

With Reunion already used, and the change of events with certain characters, i'm putting my money on Revive or Revival

@@anotherLwordwhich is basically rebirth

The other way around.

Wouldnt be surprised if zack becomes the leader after cloud loses his mind from lifestream poisoning.... If he still even loses it.

If square Enix had a brain between any of them, they would of just took final fantasy 7 remake, and rebirth, turning them into one game. The first disc of the original was around 20 to 25hrs, and could easily turn that into a 80+hr game instead of turning a 7 hr opening section into a 35hr game and a 15hr open world section into a 80+ hr game.

@@unownbob123 no, they did well the way they did. you don't know how to design stories well, while Kitase, Nojima etc do. They know their craft better than you.

And nor do you, just because it has big names on it doesn't mean they know what they're doing. Every actor, writer, and director has made a bad movie or few doesn't mean they know whats best.

Toriyama died therefore be grateful for kingdom hearts slop?

@@dragonwarriorz1 what?😂

Well technically everybody is alive and dead in parallel universe, considering thats how multiverse work, lol.

well if consciousness do transfer from tl to tl then the aerith that cloud saves after deflecting sephiroths attack is still our aerith

She dead there too

ah nice recall. yeah indeed this could be it.

Even if it wasn't intended, but instead just a reused shot from the start for cheaper development, to represent her watching from/to the Lifestream - this concept is still what they're going with now, yes.

16 obviously

Rebirth

They are too different from one another both in terms of story and in gameplay. If your prefer more "anime" like characters and plot FF7 is definitely more your style. If you prefer the more western type fantasy games with grand boss-fights, then ff16 is a better choice. If the main factor for you is gameplay, then ff7 is just straight up better in side activities, RPG elements like itemization and character leveling, and combat has a far more impact with its tactical layer to it then 16s DMC-like hack and slash, that only gets impactful enough at the later half of the game.

so much to do in ff7 rebirth. ff16 for me is somewhat linear, and the quests are not interesting and repetitive. the crafting system alone in ff7 blew away ff16.

In terms of narrative, FF16. In terms of gameplay, FF7 Rebirth.

Isn’t that the mobile game?

That’s why this game is so cheerful

@@LeadLeftLeon true has a way different tone. The OG was a dark depressing story about loss and corruption. This feels like kingdom hearts with FF7 characters.

​@@chadsmith7519good point, the tone never changes to anything really truly interesting

Basically. :)

CT was also the 1st to have synergy attacks

Isn't Rufus Cloud's cousin? (look at the hair colour and eye).

you still have the final part. save the best for last.

The weapons did not show up untill after areoth died in the og. Unless you did. Certain glitches or used game shark.

They show up when meteor is summoned, as the planet is in danger. They will be in the third game.....look closely at the posters in Tifa's room, they're literally foreshadowing them

Very true! 80% minigames and 20% main story.

65% mini games, 35% main story.

Maybe they've saving OmniSlash for the final game since the final battle has that one iconic moment at the end with omnislash.

Supernova and Omnislash are only attacks that safer Sephiroth uses

@@breguera77 Supernova is what Safer Sephiroth uses Omnislash is Cloud's L4 Limit Break

@@breguera77To stay really safe, he stole omnislash for himself. 😅

No, Reunion most likely.

@@SA-xl1tk FF7 Reunion already exists, it's the Crisis Core remake, they 100% won't name it that exact same

How about FF7 Requiem?

Nomura loves time travel and multiverse. Look at kh

@@castroh19 I'm pretty sure Nomura would throw a tantrum and froth at the mouth if Square told him he wasn't allowed to put time travel in a game.

Lemme guess, u nvr play kingdom hearts?

All this Was pretty heavily implied in og..

No lie detected

Double plot twist she is now schrodingers cat.

The uninteresting plot change. Just like most of these changes..

It's basically had its own multiverse since Cloud and Aerith showed up in Final Fantasy Tactics. It's also been hinted that the Gilgamesh that appears in each Final Fantasy is the same character in all of them.

Yeah, it's called Dissidia

Don't really care what they are as long as they are party members in part 3. They can be force ghosts, people from a different timeline, or whatever.

In main timeline, yes. In alternate timeline, Zack and Aerith are still alive.

The Star Wars influence is strong with this one

He was faking his voice in the original

hes 48 in his human years. 15 in his species

play the original ff7

@@Kev-O33I'm pretty sure most 15 year old humans have already gone through voice break. It's really weird to have him go from gravelly old liondog to excited anime puppy.

cutting out rocket town just made him feel completely irrelevant

You realize there is a third part coming? Leave your judgment for then

@@rawaali8451 a third part isnt gonna change how they completely changed him.

REUNION

​@@wavion2they've already done reunion lmao

@@expattrading Just b/c they used it for CC doesn't mean they can't use it again. It would just be kind of lazy

He was faking a deep voice. He’s a teenager.

as if sales ever reflect anything. Pokemon games can be released unfinished and still sell 10+million copies.

Literally always been like that. The lifestream is a cycle, not a straight line

It's simple really. Original FF7 is a premonition that is destined to take place, where the remake is that very vision occuring in that present reality of the remake.

What did you expect? Nomura himself is the creative director.

? How

The bad version is cloud and sephiroth is the evil version.

Red is a teenager and was faking his deep voice.

It was explained that he’s about 75 years old but compared to the full lifespan of his species that would only put him at around age 16/17 relative to a human lifespan. He deliberately put on an older voice to not be looked down on as a “pet” according to himself when going back to his hometown in cosmo canyon. While in his hometown he was able to reveal his normal self and was more comfortable with speaking in his regular voice with others now that the truth of his age was revealed.

In addition to what mx10589 is saying, some of the changes may have been to accommodate for Cait Sith. Unlike the original, Rebirth Cait Sith is more than just (unnecessary) comic relief, providing wise insights, progressing the narrative, and being key to situational events. But to keep some differention in the party and character roles, they may have opted to remove the wise guide role from Red XIII, and give it to Cait, while using 'child Nanaki' and exploring his character growth in that lane. Maybe in game 3, the role may shift again, to someone like Vincent/Cid. Characters tend to flip their roles in long narratives like this one, albiet temporarily.

In the OG japanese for ps1, red xiii's dialect and mannerisms change after cosmo canyon. In the US release it's not as obvious, and so in the remake they kept it more true to that

@@fosterkmasI would argue OG Cait Sith was also more than unnecessary comic relief too. He has some pretty pointed back-and-forth with Barret about Avalanche's disregard for collateral damage and "ends justify the means" attitude, and helps to humanize a lot of Midgar.

og ff7 are the events that fate (whispers and arbiter of fate) set to happen, when sephiroth lured cloud party to kill the arbiter, fate ceased to exist creating infinite realities with each of them made of any possible different events detour, in second reality (the one where zack is still alive and avalanche was captured or killed by shinra) it seems aerith didn't manage to use the holy spell so the planet is about do die because of imminent meteor impact. In other realities zack took different decisions (try to save cloud, go to save biggs) creating further new realities according to each different decision. Unfortunately not only the multiverse concept is quite cheap, but is also terribly bad explained

Alternate timeline in a different dimension.

@@isiludtengille 3rd timeline, second dimension. Please. Somebody make it stop.

​@@larrymunn5279morbid curiosity towards seeing the 3rd game attempt to bring this mess together

Its Weird But Think Of Her Death Acting Like A Loop It Repeats BUT In Kingdom Hearts She Is Alive BUT Her Light Is Hurting And Has Called Out To Sora For Help So We Will See Her Again In KH4

A Vincent and Cid side story wouldn't surprise me. Dunno what they'd do with them but Intermission was basically hey do you wanna try out Yuffie for a few hours before we put her in Rebirth

@@Itsumi456 I’d say Vincent for side story origins that connect to Dirge of Cerberus a bit and maybe even First Soldier

There is no DLC story planned for Rebirth, they have stated that this time they're going straight into developping the 3rd game

​@@alexisc.7887😭

​@@kleberson777are you mad? that's the best answer! Let's not praise devs chopping games into dlc. that dlc will *never* be part of the main disc down the road. look at ff13-2, ff15, and unfortunately ff16 is also getting dlc...

Whispers are the perfect plot device for fake-out-death. In general they can do everything and excuse it with them. That’s just lazy writing.

The whispers are def the purist fans

It isnt difficult. You just want everything the same

such a garbage story, waited decades for a faithful remake. now when we finally get it, some 2nd rate writer has to hamfist his fanfiction into it, what a tragedy

@@av-ls5df the writer of the remake is literally the writer of the original game, the only original developer who is not present is Sakaguchi (and his absence is felt for sure)

Remake it a sequal to the og.

@@itsbeyondme5560 And you want so many multiverses that there is no definitive answer to if a character is dead or alive. Literally Schrodinger's cat. If that's what you get off to hey, power to ya. Glad someone is enjoying it.

The old man voice he used to make the team think he was older and wise, and not a teenager.

Those who played the Japanese version say it mirrors what happened with the way he spoke in the OG before and after Cosmo Canyon

@@claudelorrain-bouchard6941 He sounds like Tidus now, it's unbearable