A countryman is like a family member, you take them for granted because you see them every day... but when you meet one after being alone and surrounded by foreigners, it feels like home...
I'm a Serb who has lived in Peru most of his life. Since I was 11, in fact. Every odd year, I visit for a month. And I swear, every single time, I feel the exact same thing you're describing.
" Nothing could prepare Barry for the swell of emotion which came upon him, seeing another Irishman, after so many years in these cold - hearted foreign lands."
There was some serious attention to detail in this film. Each shot could be put in a gallery. That was kind of their intention with all of the painting references that were an inspiration for the scenes.
".. and a friendly voice, a look, brought the old country back to his memory again..". I can so understand it now, as an expatriate, have many a time felt the same way. Brilliant movie!
@@andytaylor4138an expatriate is someone who temporarily lives outside their home country, while an immigrant is someone who permanently moves to another country.
I disagree, I think it's absolutely necessary; the entire reason that Redmond blew his cover and joined the Chevalier is because they were both Irishmen. Imagine the emotions one would feel, after being abducted into a foreign army and being essentially lost in a foreign country for two years. I too would cry upon meeting a countryman and hearing a friendly voice. If you've ever traveled abroad for longer than a month or so, you'll understand just how bad the homesickness can get.
I can’t believe people disagree with this. It’s a simplistic human experience and that’s what makes it such a wholesome scene. In a greater sense, you can see Barry looking up to him as someone he wants or wanted to be like a father figure
Imagine the crap he had gone through since leaving home, only for things to get progressively worse. It's not like he didn't try to get himself out of these binds: broke joining the army, boxing, losing Grogan, pressed into Prussian service and assistance to Potsdorf. I think it's genuine emotion on both of their parts. It's a suicide mission from Capt. Potsdorf. How is Barry supposed to hide that he's Irish from an Irishman who speaks perfect French and German? The Chevalier would have "disappeared" him pretty quickly. Oh, Barry's cover is that's he's a Hungarian named Lazlo with badly accented German, who likely doesn't speak a word of Hungarian. Good luck with that. You can tell the Chevalier isn't buying it from the get-go. "Your name is Laslo?!?" lol. He was forced to gamble here, faites le jeu indeed.
Kubrick establishes a surface narrative that is almost always subverted by subsurface themes; Redmond had no plan for life, and thus exhibits behavior of an opportunist, he played the part of a sensitive Irishman who missed home in the same way he took the same mantle of the Masculine gentleman when he challenged Quin to a duel, and the role of English officer when he stole Jonathan Fakenham'a uniform and mount, and the role of the savvy officer when he seduced Leischen, and the role of the loyal subordinate when he was in the service of Potzdorf, and the role of sensitive lover when he fooled Lady Lyndon; Redmond's entire life story is that of relative insincerity relative to an exploitative situation.
🥺WAY he simply embraces him..no words of anger, no claims of denial..just two fellow countrymen in a strange land. Even as a child this scene "got me". thanks for uploading👍
I get where you're coming from, and I take your point but it is not *quite* exactly that simple, in my view : after all, neither Lady Lyndon, nor Redmond Barry's own mother are *'single mothers'* in the sense we understand the term, but rather widows raising a young boy in the absence of their deceased husband.
It's much MORE, really, about *Game Theory* and *The Vulnerability of Systems* based on rigid, yet *unenforceable Rules* built upon a mutual presumption of *Good Faith, Trust* and *Honour* -- Dueling, in particular -- to *ruthless exploitation* by *an unscrupulous, immoral, envious* and *ambitious CHEAT* with malicious intent and fantastic delusions of aspiring to social betterment -- he doesn't seem to understand that The Aristocracy will *never* accept him or grant him recognition as one of their peers and one of their own, having an as equal claim to respectability as they do, for the very simple reason that he is just utterly and clearly disreputable.
Lets all appreciate this film being made using only the sun for lighting.. Kubrick is a genius. He left us a film in which interior, landscape, the sky, the buildings are captured in real lighting. It is a masterpiece for all time. ❤ I wish all people today who have only known digital images would see this film.
When I visited family in Germany back in '95 I went with an uncle to a riding stable. There I met a fellow American who just happened to have 2 baseball gloves and a baseball with him and we played catch for half an hour to the interest of the Germans there. Yes I had family there that I knew but it felt good having a catch with a countryman.
prunch72 also, the aristocratic classes of the 18th century, who largely produced the high culture and built the great palaces, would look down and laugh heartily at the vast majority of peasant and proletarian rabble who vote for far-right nationalist parties in Europe today in the sorely mistaken and conceited belief that they are asserting a common civilizational heritage on the basis of blood, soil and skin colour; there was no such thing, there were the lords and the commoners and the relationship between them was one of absolute separation, subservience, hierarchy and oppression. Your comment blurring the lines between the two estates is based on the grossest distortion of history. Unless you’re a Hapsburg or a Bourbon, your moronic, exclusivist claim to this European high culture on the basis of your race or blood is about as justified as a Mau Mau tribesman claiming the imperial throne of China. Oh and Kubrick was a Jew.
@@coco360 This is not true at all. The founders of scientific racism were some of the most educated and well-travelled people in the 18th-19th century. European aristocrats were very concerned by race-mixing, as well as the expulsion of allogeneous populations (for instance the expulsion of Africans from London in 1601). Not to mention that there was considerable social mobility even in the ancient regime. Ethnicity is culture and culture is ethnicity.
I know the feeling well. To hear an accent from home when you've been living for years as a stranger in a strange land can be a very emotional experience.
I dont know what it about this scene. I've watched it many times and it touches me deeply. I find the encounter between two Irishmen to be profound in me. It touches something in my heritage more than I can express.
in a way they influenced Kubrick he said so about Bergman, Kurosawa is my second fav director ever, seven samurai is my second favorite movie of all time. I like bergman too but I pick kubrick for the biggest throne.
I didn't have a reaction like that, but I did feel a sense of comfort and peace when I met a group of fellow Canadians in Hong Kong at a pub. Something about meeting your kin in a different land, a place that you'd never expect to find them relieves the senses of isolation and being left to your devices in a foreign land, like a familiar face. The Hong Kongers' are an extremely generous and welcoming people, but there's always those lingering cultural differences that make it harder for us to relate to one another as well as we can with another Canadian or another Hong Konger.
It’s not only the most beautiful film ever, but one of the most compelling- the equivalent of a book that’s a real ‘page turner’ - such a great yarn. Kubrick was a master storyteller as well as a great cinematographer.
As an Irishman lost and wounded many times abroad, I can attest to the sudden outpouring of emotion when you happen upon a compatriot in a lonely moment
One disease of the twentieth and twenty first century is our memory recall has been destroyed by mobile phones and computers. Who can remember a phone number these days without looking it up? They could take in much more information in those days and store it.
Uh yeah, Barry should've had notes scribbled on his shirt sleeve like a scruff student cheating on a classroom test does 😅. Dorfsman gave Barry a very basic outline to go by. Barry was able to stick to his own imposter story from the moment he met Dorfsman, until the moment he got called out. They both knew the goal was to be as convincing as possible, and both knew some improvising would likely be needed, at least in due time. It was all a complete bullshite story anyway, so here was the basic outline to start with.
Patrick McGee plays his part so well,like many cameo’s in this film little gem’s also Michael Hordern as the narrator should be given credit for setting the tone of the story
Kubrick has obviously put these scenes in here for a reason. It's a way of showing "why" Barry decides to betray the Germans and become a gambler to raise his wealth and class without clumsy expository dialogue. Barry is essentially a very selfish character so he cries at those moments for a reason; he sees himself in his son and his friend. He doesn't want HIS leg to go.
I remember in Iraq meeting a Iraqi visiting his relatives and he was from Texas. It was astounding to me and found myself having to hold back my elation.
Irishmen like Barry weren't uncommon in mainland Europe at that time. They were know as wild geese. Their existence can be traced back to the political upheavals of the wars in ireland in the 17th century. 36 000 were in the service of the Spanish king at one time.
Except Barry seems to be an Anglo-Irish Protestant. The Wild Geese were us Catholics and Native Irish. Nevertheless, all Irish in the dark 18th Century were cast adrift by the brutal English colonial rule, regardless of whether they were its minions or not. Even a multigenerational American like me of almost entirely Irish ancestry feels a kinship when I run into another Irish. Especially from the old peoples like my clan.
that's cause Europeans have been brow beaten into losing their national pride and identities and of course their sense of duty to their blood and forefathers.
At 1:49 Barry lets an English word slip when he says "Monsieur von Krennenberg *was* ein sehr gutte Herr," instead of "M. von Krennenberg *war* ein sehr gutte Herr." He was already close to blowing his cover.
Knowing Kubrick's propensity for numerous takes, I wonder how many times Kruger had to recite the"Veekness in da loineez" line. I wouId have been cracking up on the first take!
This film is legendary (mostly for the beauty of its compositions and cinematography), and to my embarrassment, I've never seen it, but wow...what a great scene.
i love this scene, its the few times we see Redmonds humanity. Not that he's a monster, but we dont really see many moments of emotion by Redmond if I recall correctly, in the film. The chevaliers reaction, when Redmond confesses, is a little hard to read for me, he seems shocked, but the embrace, we dont know if its the Chevalier is being manipulative, or actually empathizes with Barry (fully) haha
One of the curses of being human is that we so rarely have "pure" emotions, unmixed with self-interest or envy or something else (Barry only really has it for his son, Brian). So it's best to just accept that about each other and be compassionate.
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I find this scene very moving every time I see it, and I can't honestly tell how many times I've watched Barry Lyndon. Still, I can't help to think that the Chevalier is largely responsible for Redmond's moral corruption.
His moral corruption started with his mother. She is the one largely responsible for it. Not because she is a single parent but remember how she, with no conscience, told Barry to continue mistreat Bullington. She taught Barry no morals. When he is in the British army, he is looting the countryside because he is ordered to. Then he is in Prussian army, bascially, a criminal college, according to the narrator. The Chevalier only taught him how to act like a gentlemen. The movie had an anti-establisment sentiment. The father killed himself and left his child for pride. The caring mother hoard other people money. The army is full of bullies, cowards and criminals. And the well-behaved, proud gentlemen are conmen or actors.
Aye, but it's in the company of the decadent Chevalier that Barry learns to crave above anything else wealth, luxury and social status. These are the causes of his ultimate demise, and it's the world Redmond was introduced to by the chevalier that made it possible.
One word from the Chevalier's distinctive voice, and I'm terrified! If you ever get a chance to see the Marat/Sade, think very carefully - it can mark you for life!
The 18th Century should’ve been named the Age of Stiff Joints. Or The Age of Crotch Pain. Stuffed shirts, puffed wigs, tight pants and back aches! : - D
The chevalier looks so very Irish, really, it’s hard for me to think that he could come from anywhere else. Also bears a distinct resemblance to Joyce !
(I see it unfold from the window and i rush to Captain Potzdorf) Me: Hauptmann Potzdorf? Potzdorf: Ja? Me: I saw Corporal Barry being embraced by de Balibari. Captain Potzdorf: Was? For what reason is there to fraternize with the enemy? Me: I believe homesickness is the main cause, Hauptmann. I overheard that Barry and de Balibari both come from their native homeland: Ireland. Captain Potzdorf: Ah, i see. Sometimes i even miss my home village. I shall overlook this transgression for his sake. You are dismissed, soldier. Me: Vielen dank.
I think the narrator may be wrong. I think all the instructions Redmond was given at the last minute in the carriage were too much and too detailed for him to remember, and there was no time to memorize it and practice, so he wound up just breaking down and spilling the beans. But it pretty much worked out well for him, at least in the short term.
Not many people know that Hardy Kruger actually DID wear gray in the war. He was a sixteen-year-old drafted into the rather desperately, grandiloquently named "38th Division Niebelungend" that was hurled into combat during the last weeks.
38. SS-Panzergrenadier-Division "Nibelungen" is the full title. Sort of hastily formed but did put up some stiff resistance to the US 20th Armored Division. The soldaten that made up the Nibelungen though were trainees.
any german speaker can tell me something?. you can hear le chevalier addressing barry in third person, as in "er ist der junge mann, den mir seebach empfohlen hat" and "er ist mir sehr von monsieur de quellenberg empfohlen" . my question is why using "er" ( he ) and not "Sie" ( you ( formal)) when referring to barry.?
xmachina1 i thought le chevalier was addressing barry directly......?? do you mean then that the chevalier is simply reading what is in the letter then?
dekubaner Either that (i.e simply reciting what's in the letter) or he uses third person as a way to distinguish his rank/class from Barry Lyndon's (essentially elevating the rank of Le Chevalier). In a similar manner, Julius Caesar for example used to address himself in third person i.e. he would not say "I'll go to sleep" but "He'll sleep" (referring to himself) in order to sound important.
+dekubaner I'm not a language expert, but isn't the formal only used when addressing those of higher rank? It might be that the Chevalier viewed Barry as a commoner, a hireling. And that using the familiar was the way the upper crust referred to peasants and tradesmen.
Noblemen used to speak that way to their servants. That way of speaking would be seen as funny/outdated in modern Germany. (Like someone acting as if he is the Emperor of China.)
