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Basic Recording Techniques: The Piano 

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As far as acoustic instruments go, the piano is perhaps the most mechanically and sonically complex of them all. A grand piano can consist of over 7,000 parts and there are about 7,000 ways to mic one! Here are a few techniques to dial in the perfect piano sound.
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Комментарии : 85   
@lachlanjames9320
@lachlanjames9320 4 года назад
my god, how nice it is to see a comparison video where the instrumentalist is actually playing the same piece of music in each comparison.
@modernmusicstudio303
@modernmusicstudio303 3 года назад
Great video! I like how you explain how far away each mic should be from the other and the different sound you will get from each setup.
@l.matthewblancett8031
@l.matthewblancett8031 6 лет назад
Awesome information -- thank you very much. A minor note of correction - most of the sound of the piano is in the soundboard, not in the hammer/strings. A piano without a soundboard sounds very much like a cross between a guitar and a harpsichord -- the sound you hear is resonance within wood. So that changes target distance a little bit sometimes. However, you do have to beware of the 'striking' sound being closer to that sound source.
@GameAce6
@GameAce6 8 лет назад
I'm actually a big fan of the first setup, mainly because it sounds so much warmer and full. I actually thought the stereo effect was a nice touch, but hearing the lower notes coming out the right side was a bit...strange. I would have never thought having it flipped would make it feel so weird to me.
@unfinishedideas2
@unfinishedideas2 8 лет назад
I was just thinking the same thing. It's usually panned that way (bass notes on the left high on the right) because that's what people are used to hearing when actually playing the piano. What's funny is that it's actually opposite panning for drums. Most people don't hear the drivers seat so they pan it the other way around.
@andrelefebvre5453
@andrelefebvre5453 4 года назад
That is why piano sampling libraries offer both an 'audience' perspective and a 'player' perspective. I personally much prefer the 'player' one, and obviously you do too. As a pianist, it is much more natural sounding to me, including the presence of the strings sympathetic resonance.
@emreon3160
@emreon3160 4 года назад
The first set up was incredible. Real as i have 2 ears.
@sidthebassist89
@sidthebassist89 4 года назад
I love that you guys covered the AT2020. I got one when I bought pencil condensers for use as drum overheads and haven't used it for anything, now I know it sounds good
@carlotheatheist
@carlotheatheist 3 года назад
you have so many instrument talent. you can drum, guitar and piano.
@keithkullberg716
@keithkullberg716 4 года назад
The comparison in sound between the two setups was super helpful. Thanks!
@nottingham_ChrisAllison
@nottingham_ChrisAllison 3 года назад
Great Video and LOADS of clarity here..I have watched a few now on micing the Piano and sound is wishy washy and disappointing on nearly all of them
@sebastian-benedictflore
@sebastian-benedictflore 3 года назад
I was wondering why they were all audiotechnica mics xD
@MeatPopsycle
@MeatPopsycle 6 лет назад
That first setup sounds amazing
@GrotrianSeiler
@GrotrianSeiler 3 года назад
That was a great video. Really noticeable differences. My preference is 3,1,2.
@LuiGiSotres
@LuiGiSotres 4 года назад
Excelente, muchas gracias por los ejemplos!
@Taki_Music_TakuyaKimpara
@Taki_Music_TakuyaKimpara 3 года назад
Thank you for this comparison!
@bearbarianphuket9404
@bearbarianphuket9404 3 года назад
Thank you so much.
@bortonbob
@bortonbob 4 года назад
Great techniques! You initial comment about pianos being he most complex (more than 7,000 parts) of all acoustic instruments is flawed...the piano must take second place. The pipe organ is FAR more complex in a myriad of ways. Whereas a piano has only 88 keys and only 3 foot controls, a typical 3-manual theatre pipe organ has 215 keys, and 183 of those keys have two depths of depression (second touch) to produce a second sound from the same keys that effectively gives the organist 198 key strokes. The feet generally have a dozen controls, but the hands must manipulate hundreds of stop switches. And it's worth mentioning that a particular key can have nearly an infinite possibility of sounds not to mention a variety of different octaves produced from the same key; whereas, a piano key will always produce only one sound at one frequency. A brief research of the Atlantic City Midmer-Losh pipe organ shows it has 33,114 pipes that speak from 7 chambers into an auditorium of nearly 7 acres housed in 5.5 million cubic feet of airspace. There are 449 different sounding pipe ranks, and the largest pipe is 64' 9" and produces a zero distortion frequency of 8 cycles per second (about 1 octave above an earthquake), and it was crafted out of an Oregon fir tree that was 785 years old. The shortest pipe is 1/4" and produces a frequency of 17K cycles per second. There are 1,235 stop tab switches to control the infinite sound possibilities using the 510 keys from both hands and feet. The organ has 7 manual keyboards for the hands, four 5-octave, two 6-octave, and one 88-key manual...again, the second touch adds even more key action. It has more than 450 relay bars that electrically connect the pipe ranks to any of the keyboards. How much wire to connect up this instrument? The wire is so long that you could wrap all of them around the equator 2 1/2 times!! I could go on, but a piano has only 88 keys and 3 pedals to control sound. That said, thanks for sharing a great way to mic grand pianos!
@markerworksstudio5322
@markerworksstudio5322 7 лет назад
Thanks a lot for this video. :D It helped a lot. Finally I know how does that At2020 sounds. :)
@AiMR
@AiMR 9 месяцев назад
These setups are all great, but what sounds great in a solo piano recording is not the same as that same sound will sit in a mix. AT makes top notch gear 👍
@tomyvrosales3535
@tomyvrosales3535 2 года назад
Hi… thank you all for this great insight on how to mic a piano…
@wesleycox5335
@wesleycox5335 5 лет назад
1st is amazing.
@LouisEmery
@LouisEmery 4 года назад
BTW the sound is mostly emitted by the soundboard, but you knew that. ;)
@badband4
@badband4 6 лет назад
legit wondering what song he was pulling from
@lucase3047
@lucase3047 6 лет назад
Often i like an XY setup best, AB always makes the low notes obviously go through 1 mic more and to me feel slightly unbalanced.
@waltertomaszewski1083
@waltertomaszewski1083 4 года назад
L. I like ORTF - gives a better stereo spread than XY.
@katk925
@katk925 4 года назад
CHARLIE!!!!!! was not expecting to see you when I loaded this video!!!!
@kevinchen6075
@kevinchen6075 3 года назад
Do you have any recommendations on recording the grand piano in a room with quite a bit of background noise? There are three fan openings in my room and when I play my recordings at loud volumes, the background noise becomes very noticeable.
@AudioTechnicaUSA
@AudioTechnicaUSA 3 года назад
Hi Kevin! Please contact our Audio Solutions Team for help. You can reach them at audio-solutions@atus.com. Thanks! - A-T USA
@cameratadelvalle.argentina626
@cameratadelvalle.argentina626 3 года назад
gracias
@StevenAH20
@StevenAH20 5 лет назад
Thank you, sir.
@BaritoneDeLaTorre
@BaritoneDeLaTorre 3 года назад
The two AT4060 sound outstanding but either I pay the rent for 3 months or I buy the mics :(
@notscience5581
@notscience5581 4 года назад
2:18 peanist
@nottingham_ChrisAllison
@nottingham_ChrisAllison 3 года назад
lol
@beezanteeum
@beezanteeum 3 года назад
More like "P" word
@xkhokokox
@xkhokokox 3 года назад
lmao
@revokdaryl1
@revokdaryl1 3 года назад
At 3:00, the pianist looks very... stoic.
@swingsetsounds7983
@swingsetsounds7983 3 года назад
i really liked the first option but when i tried it, the LDC's kept sagging. Are your stands counter weighted? If so, can you provide a link? I haven't been able to find any.
@AudioTechnicaUSA
@AudioTechnicaUSA 3 года назад
Hi there! Please contact our Audio Solutions Team for help. You can reach them at audio-solutions@atus.com. Thanks! - A-T USA
@giuseppepulella
@giuseppepulella Год назад
How did you solve it?
@alexoldroyd770
@alexoldroyd770 7 лет назад
Spaced LDC 1:26 XY SDC 2:24 Mono 3:20
@payvandpajoohi123
@payvandpajoohi123 4 года назад
Thank you! I was about to do the work.
@Littlecadent
@Littlecadent 6 лет назад
What if your recording upright piano?
@AudioTechnicaUSA
@AudioTechnicaUSA 6 лет назад
Hi there! Please contact our Audio Solutions Team for help. You can reach them at audio-solutions@atus.com. Thanks! - A-T USA
@christianhurtado1978
@christianhurtado1978 3 года назад
I like the first
@Sepharite
@Sepharite 5 лет назад
I have the third setup microphone and it does not sound like this at all. I am wondering if it's my microphone
@AudioTechnicaUSA
@AudioTechnicaUSA 5 лет назад
Hi there! Please contact our Audio Solutions Team for help. You can reach them at audio-solutions@atus.com. Thanks! - A-T USA
@OmariLiveHD
@OmariLiveHD 3 года назад
There are a lot of factors that can make a difference. Such as the instrument itself and the room that the instrument is in.
@langkuai6387
@langkuai6387 7 лет назад
why the first sounds like leftside right? I usually hear the bass on the left side.
@protoman247
@protoman247 5 лет назад
it's mastered as to reproduce the sound from the camera's perspective. As a right-handed drummer, I hate when the hi-hats are panned to the right.
@billmcentire9923
@billmcentire9923 4 года назад
I gotta ask what's the name of the song?
@chibuezengozi
@chibuezengozi 4 года назад
I am not my hair - India Arie
@josephkyle6271
@josephkyle6271 3 года назад
@@chibuezengozi I WAS LIKE BRUHH I KNOW THIS SONG!!!!
@youfang232
@youfang232 4 года назад
can i use itt on normal piano but not a grand piano ?
@GrantPmusic
@GrantPmusic 5 лет назад
Trying to save money here. Thinking about getting 2 AT2020 mics to record my baby grand. Would I get a full frequency range (nice lows, crispy highs) doing this? Thanks.
@AudioTechnicaUSA
@AudioTechnicaUSA 5 лет назад
Hi there! Please contact our Audio Solutions Team for help. You can reach them at audio-solutions@atus.com. Thanks! - A-T USA
@GrantPmusic
@GrantPmusic 5 лет назад
@@AudioTechnicaUSA - Thanks but I could have easily did a google search for audio-technica technical support for that info. I was hoping for a yes or no or perhaps it has good lows as well as highs... or maybe even an honest welllllll it's a little short in the lows but the highs are crisp. Whatever. A cut and paste response doesn't gain my confidence in any customer support if I actually did buy a few of these.
@AudioTechnicaUSA
@AudioTechnicaUSA 5 лет назад
@@GrantPmusic Hi there! We appreciate your continued interest in A-T, the Audio Solutions team is the best point of contact for product recommendations. - A-T USA
@MrRyancangri
@MrRyancangri 4 года назад
Absolutely Grant. They sound great.
@GrantPmusic
@GrantPmusic 4 года назад
@@MrRyancangri - Thanks Ryan!
@LiebJohnson
@LiebJohnson 5 лет назад
was that Reign of Kindo's Breath Again?
@studentjohn35
@studentjohn35 6 лет назад
In this fellow;s mind, omnidirectional microphones don't even exist.
@waltertomaszewski1083
@waltertomaszewski1083 4 года назад
Are AT4040s and AT4021s also good for recording piano?
@ewcho8995
@ewcho8995 4 года назад
yeah they are both quality microphones. I personally would choose the AT4021 since its more detailed
@barneycurran5774
@barneycurran5774 7 лет назад
One mic - mono track, that's how to do it.
@ivak4eto
@ivak4eto 8 лет назад
What was the name of this tune?
@moabl2020
@moabl2020 7 лет назад
you make me smile by Dave Koz
@ivak4eto
@ivak4eto 7 лет назад
Papo Reto Thank you!
@chibuezengozi
@chibuezengozi 4 года назад
I am not my hair - India Arie
@stevesmith1493
@stevesmith1493 2 года назад
Take the lid off
@ValentineGoloubev
@ValentineGoloubev 6 лет назад
It depends..
@mehrschwein7378
@mehrschwein7378 9 лет назад
I don't like the first recoding technique. I can always hear, that its recorded with 2 mic's. Doesn't sound good that way
@user-zk7fx2jq7d
@user-zk7fx2jq7d 8 лет назад
+mehr schwein That's a matter of personal taste.^^ Also, you can set the recorded audio to mono, so you don't hear it ;)
@hh-dr4db
@hh-dr4db 3 года назад
Wow this piano sounds like crap. I can't believe this is the same Yamaha that makes the CFX.
@amusic9825
@amusic9825 3 года назад
Yeah, so bright.
@pianistjustforfun
@pianistjustforfun 7 лет назад
above all, i hear a detuned piano which is in bad shape. this would be fine for me, if somebody is playing a piano cover at his home, but as a product video, i don´t know...
@mellowords
@mellowords 6 лет назад
pianistjustforfun I don't know, it sounds like it was probably tuned within a month or so. Are you a big Yamaha C7 guy or something?
@danhetzelvideo3502
@danhetzelvideo3502 6 лет назад
He's right - listen again at 2:00 and a few other spots.
@anonymusum
@anonymusum 6 лет назад
True - but at the same time the sound is very flat. Every mic setting produced a pop sound.
@TheBroadcastStudio365
@TheBroadcastStudio365 7 лет назад
It's sound not as good in my ears.
@ekstrapolatoraproksymujacy412
you have no idea how piano produces sound lol
@GarySchmidtPianist
@GarySchmidtPianist 7 лет назад
too the piano is not in tune but helpful video
@OE1FEU
@OE1FEU 6 лет назад
Wow. That's an exceptionally badly maintained and tuned instrument. Just perfect for crappy recording examples that gives you trebles on the left. Kudos for calling this a professional presentation of what I thought was a respectable company.
@qingshanli7511
@qingshanli7511 5 лет назад
Agreed. Wish they could have found a better pianist, too.
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