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Bass Amp Microphone Shootout 

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@bradbarker4041
@bradbarker4041 6 лет назад
Really surprised how good the SM-57 sounded!
@henrylee4856
@henrylee4856 4 года назад
Same, I wasn’t expecting that.
@arbitermatt
@arbitermatt 3 года назад
It sounds cool, I think in a mix the lows wouldn't be solid enough, but if you combined it with a DI signal will with a low pass filter it would sound awesome.
@kodykindhart8230
@kodykindhart8230 3 года назад
I record bass di and 421. Double the di and run thru amp sim if the 421/amp sound isn’t cutting it... Mute di and move mic and tweak amp then blend back di to taste I usually record w di muted and all color tone so I’m driving into the song with the sound
@mattygainesville
@mattygainesville 3 года назад
Same here!
@ToastedMusic00
@ToastedMusic00 3 года назад
The sm57 works for everthing!
@stevennemeth6256
@stevennemeth6256 5 лет назад
Great demo. It drives me crazy to spend good money on quality bass amps to only ever record a direct bass signal these days. I'm going back to the old school way of recording bass.
@gabrielrangel956
@gabrielrangel956 7 месяцев назад
The Beta 52 is amazing on the low end but it could definitely benefit from a blend with the sm57 for the top end
@JosephSmith-lm4ri
@JosephSmith-lm4ri 7 месяцев назад
What I was thinking after watching this
@GugaRamone
@GugaRamone 6 лет назад
Shure Beta 52 for me, as it doesn't have the low cut of the other two. The mid scoop / bumped lows can be lessened backing off the mic from the source.
@itikutok6568
@itikutok6568 Год назад
Thanks! Exactly the comparison I was looking for, I am now convinced SM57 will do the job!
@pepe7drum
@pepe7drum 5 лет назад
Man the 57 did amazingly great, next time im going to try a mix between 52a and the 57
@snakeface5652
@snakeface5652 3 года назад
I've tried this before. Tried using a 52a for the low end, 57 for the mid range and some high end. I would say it went alright, but you can also just use a bass DI for a clear low end.
@BigSmonk420
@BigSmonk420 6 лет назад
I like the RE320. It had the most clarity and presence, while not sounding tinny. The noise level is also a lot lower compared to the other two. The Beta 52 sounded a bit too boomy and hissy for me. The SM57 sounded decent but I think the sound quality of the other 2 is more suited for bass.
@danielkorladis7869
@danielkorladis7869 6 лет назад
Same. When using an SM57, you can reinforce the lows a bit by using a DI feed or a kick mic. I prefer an RE20 or an SM7-B for a single mic though.
@joshua.merrill
@joshua.merrill 3 года назад
This sold me on the B52a. I've been trying to record my octave-dropped bass with the SM57, and it doesn't really sound an octave lower, just due to the freq response. That B52a is super bassy!
@juliangramajo7010
@juliangramajo7010 6 лет назад
the beta52 on the cone does it for me, awesome video!
@juliangramajo7010
@juliangramajo7010 6 лет назад
hey guys, i have a suggestion, could you make a video testing aluminium vs. paper cones?
@duene2k
@duene2k 6 лет назад
Both sm57 and re320 are nice, really dislike the beta's hyped sound and mid scoop. As a standard the re320 probably is the best as it's the most neutral imo.
@danielkorladis7869
@danielkorladis7869 6 лет назад
Agreed. I prefer the RE20, but the RE320 is similar. After that on this video I liked the SM57. The Beta 52 is just way too scooped in the mids and harsh in the highs, to my ears.
@Big_Old_Bondy
@Big_Old_Bondy 4 года назад
The B52's got a glassy tone hasn't it. I reckon it would sound good on a guitar cab with a strat.
@haatock
@haatock 4 года назад
B52 on a subwoofer cutted at 120hz gives a super deep low end. But you need biamp system with crossover in it.
@NateThunder
@NateThunder 4 года назад
Kills me how many prefer the 57 over the 52a. What a killer bass sound!!
@pideuhweuh8459
@pideuhweuh8459 6 лет назад
Every mic had its own nice flavor, liked the 57 the least but was better than what I thought it would on bass ! But please, next time you do this king of video, plug that dingwall into this super bassman !
@toastator13
@toastator13 3 года назад
They all have their place with different bass and amp combos.
@jcburn1973
@jcburn1973 4 года назад
Nice shoot out guys - I realise I'm late to the party here but the RE320 off centre takes the cake here.
@ScottFuckinRitchie
@ScottFuckinRitchie 5 лет назад
That Darkglass sounds bad ass with all the mics!
@JacobRestituto
@JacobRestituto Год назад
By far, the best shootout video I’ve ever watch. And I’ve watched many amp, pedal, guitar and plugin shootouts
@fearpocalypse8062
@fearpocalypse8062 6 лет назад
Thanks so much! You guys make the content that bassist want to see. I'm so sick of it all the other bass channels just slapping and recording on their iPhone. This channel is great!
@The_Metal_Man72
@The_Metal_Man72 5 месяцев назад
FINALLY A VIDEO THAT REVIEWS MICS WITH HEAVY STYLE BASS!!!!! The shure beta 52 is very much the clearest sounding mic that I've been wanting to search for. I've been trying my luck with the e609 but it just distorts when I play with the heavy sound💀
@igabo95
@igabo95 3 года назад
Great video! The only thing I missed is the slap sound! I was really curious to hear those mics with a slap sound.
@lochlanboebel394
@lochlanboebel394 6 лет назад
Yeah still Beta 52A for me!! It just nails the tone that I love! If it’s too boomy, just inch the mic a bit farther from the cab! Excellent guys! Thanks for this vid! I think I need to get me a Beta 52 now!
@MrTom-Songwriter-Composer
@MrTom-Songwriter-Composer 3 года назад
This is a really great review! For recording the bass, I use DI on one track and use a SM57 mic (off-axis) on the another track and then blend both tracks in the mix down.
@haatock
@haatock 4 года назад
B52 sounds as V shape e.q / SM57 sounds goods with punchy low mids / RE320 sounds as a mix of SM57 + B52 ... hard choice. I THINK BUY THEM ALL.
@kirkbolas4985
@kirkbolas4985 4 года назад
Granted that I’m late to this party, but I favor the SM57 for a couple of reasons. 1) It’s response, imoho, does not overly color the source sound. 2) Everyone has one, or should have one. There may be better purposed choices, but it’s like the coach airline ticket compared to the first class ticket. Both will get you there, but coach is far more popular option. It gets the job done. The SM57 is on far more bass cab recordings and is familiar to the ear. In evaluating another piece of gear or demonstrating techniques, the SM57 delivers a sound that does not confound the point being made by introducing unfamiliar aural information.
@marcuscarollo2080
@marcuscarollo2080 4 года назад
If you have a sennheiser e609 kicking around, definetly experiment with that as well! I have a cheap gk 15 inch combo, and i found that next to my 421, i liked using a combo of 57 and e609
@kirkbolas4985
@kirkbolas4985 4 года назад
Marcus Carollo Thanks for the advice. I don’t have an e609, but I do have an e906. It’s the same mic with an Eq switch. I’ll experiment with it and an SM57
@marcuscarollo2080
@marcuscarollo2080 4 года назад
@@kirkbolas4985 Oh that's awesome. I think you'll really like the results. It worked quite well for me until I could afford an old 421, but I still use it with larger speakers on occasion.
@ZeroMod
@ZeroMod 6 лет назад
Been using the RE20 for thirty years. Still loving it. But is there anything an SM57 CAN'T do? I really appreciate the quality and thoroughness of your reviews guys. Keep up the top shelf work!
@vinceisdead6063
@vinceisdead6063 Год назад
Honestly the beta57 is one of my FAV bass mics and it's just a sm57 but hyper cardiod. 57 capsule can do no wrong
@christopherstorrier5560
@christopherstorrier5560 11 месяцев назад
I wanted to check out the Shure 52 before buying one, got a good home cinema with SVS sub...after all these years the Shure 52 & AKG 112 , my choice of bass cab mic ,are still the best sounding to my ear's...the RE is good close miked,hard up beside your cab grille, a pinky thickness away..... good demo, i know there's no AKG 112 here but i like it & the Shure 52 sounds really good....i think i will buy one.... cheers
@marcelb7259
@marcelb7259 3 года назад
The Beta 52 and the RE320 sounds great. A little more rounded sound for the Beta 52 and a more neutral tone from the RE320. Both great microphones.
@a.G
@a.G 3 года назад
SM57 it is for me. I am going to do all my bass recordings with my SM57 + DI, should kick a$$! Thank you for the video. very helpful
@jcburn1973
@jcburn1973 6 лет назад
Nice comparison. I liked the 57, both on cone and off centre.
@jjstudiosjj2408
@jjstudiosjj2408 5 лет назад
The RE320 to my ears sounds best. Perfect mix of low end, I use them on bass, kick and vocals live and recording It’s almost as if they are pre EQ’d already... best bet is miking and blending with a DI Even so 90% of the time I would use the RE 320 as the main blend on bass tracks
@jjstudiosjj2408
@jjstudiosjj2408 5 лет назад
Or go in reverb and get an RE 20...if you have and extra $150 or so... but only a good ear could tell the difference in a mix, and the average Joe wouldn’t care...anyway I have two RE 320s on for kick one for bass for tracking live. Great investment
@33AndAThirdRPM
@33AndAThirdRPM 4 года назад
Electro Voice RE320 takes the prize in my opinion. Articulate even frequency response across the spectrum. performs well in all musical styles demonstrated in this video. I have the other two mics but will be getting the EV RE320 for the studio my studios mic cabinet,... I can see many uses for this mic and it appears it will reduce much of the effort sculpting the tone I need with EQ during mix down as it initially delivers the frequencies I would be looking for in most genres of music.
@lilbump4
@lilbump4 Год назад
Everyone always hates on the sm-57 for bass. This video proves it’s just as good as any and even better imo
@ca_marchant86
@ca_marchant86 6 лет назад
I think you should use a mix of the 57 and the beta. That way you keep the mids and the low end
@jesusflores2121
@jesusflores2121 5 лет назад
I actually like this idea a lot. The 57 sounds like it can give some real character to the boomy presence of the 52.
@sigmundsound
@sigmundsound 2 года назад
The Beta 52 (or any kick mic) should be used to capture the low end, but they are are nowhere near picking up the full frequency range.
@sickmessiah
@sickmessiah 3 года назад
In the context of a mix that beta 52 does the heavy lifting for tone. Unless you like to not hear the actual fundamental note being played
@jazzman0173
@jazzman0173 6 лет назад
Great video , always used 57 but now I'm thinking EV in offset position! Like Wills bassline on Stingray but all were cool !
@hectikmgj
@hectikmgj Год назад
I've recently been experimenting with an EV RE320 and an Audix i5 for bass.
@studiodimanche
@studiodimanche Год назад
The Electro-Voice was really nice on the distorted bass!
@funkysxxt
@funkysxxt 6 лет назад
Great vid! I really liked the edge miking on the sting ray.
@kkkkkk-ys3xq
@kkkkkk-ys3xq 4 года назад
Beta 52, though the 57sounded better isolated from external noises
@dramius
@dramius 3 года назад
I liked the beta 52.
@robdelabassist
@robdelabassist 5 месяцев назад
To me the sm57 and re320 sound similar, the latter having extended lows and highs and former having a great midrange. The 52a sounds like its better for kick drums. All my opinion
@Adam_Mokanszki
@Adam_Mokanszki Год назад
This video was extremely useful to a beginner like me. Thank you.
@minnesotajack1
@minnesotajack1 4 года назад
52 in the center all the time for me, but mad props to the ol’ 57
@Ibanezman03
@Ibanezman03 6 лет назад
Now thats how you do a comparison video! You should try out a sennheiser md421 and a akg d12. Became my favourites very quickly
@danielkorladis7869
@danielkorladis7869 6 лет назад
The MD421 is very good.
@Ibanezman03
@Ibanezman03 6 лет назад
Definitely, but not so much alone. Blended with the d12 perfect though. But i make records so i chose the mics to work with the other instruments, might be different for solo bass.
@focusonjunta
@focusonjunta 6 лет назад
The RE320 by a long shot, that is if you will be using only a single mic. Particularly problematic is either the SM57 or the Beta52 on their own. Blending the RE320with the SM57, and mixing them to taste would probably yield best results. Ultimately, ‘best results’ cannot be independent of the genre being played; equipment testing is another matter of course - that requires consistency. After having tested these three myself, I landed on the Audio Technica AE2500 Dual-element Cardioid Instrument Microphone (a kick-drum mic which works beautifully on bass). This medium-priced mic features cardioid condenser and dynamic capsules combined in one housing - perfectly phase aligned! The downside is a custom XLR breakout cable (from one male end at the mic end to two females at recording interface end) which is not cheap to replace if you lose it - but it is not all that rare either. Here is a great technical review: www.soundonsound.com/reviews/audio-technica-ae2500 Cheers!
@hheerth
@hheerth 5 лет назад
ughhhh that dingwall looks so good
@Christopherjazzcat
@Christopherjazzcat 6 лет назад
I like the electro voice re320 best.
@derekwebb7577
@derekwebb7577 5 лет назад
I really like the Sennheiser 421 myself. Of these, the Beta sounds the best, if you know how to eq it.
@Stev0BabaGhanoush
@Stev0BabaGhanoush 3 года назад
I’ve been using an Audix i5 (their version of the 57) for live applications and it works amazingly well, while also being budget friendly. They’re regularly on sale for about $20 less than the 57.
@loganhill5680
@loganhill5680 6 лет назад
Beta off center is best for live apps! 57 off center best for in studio!
@RanDieBam
@RanDieBam 4 года назад
RE-320/SM57 for clean tones, Beta 52 for heavier distorted tones
@boriszhigarev
@boriszhigarev 5 лет назад
it will be interesting to use a pair of sm57 & beta 52a. they give no extra colors for sound, so bass sounds more natural. as for me, i prefer to keep the sound that i work with live, because it would be difficult to have "studio sound" all the time
@manuelestay7591
@manuelestay7591 2 года назад
Is the Fender Super Bassman fully equalized for the mid and low treble?
@Suped_BIGRIG_350mph
@Suped_BIGRIG_350mph 6 лет назад
Love this video. If I could make one suggestion, if it's not too much time and effort could you get a similarly shaped frequency spectrum graph? Maybe it's just that I'm a newbie when it comes to recording, but I really enjoy the addition of the graph but it's hard to notice what specific EQ bands are making a difference without pausing the frame before and after. Keep em coming boys (:
@TheBassChannel
@TheBassChannel 6 лет назад
I'm not sure how far into the video you got, but the back half has side-by-side comparisons of each mic. Glad you enjoyed the video!
@Suped_BIGRIG_350mph
@Suped_BIGRIG_350mph 6 лет назад
Oh noo I know! I meant like, the size of the graph. Like, for instance, the frequency response picture for the SM-57 is a bit smaller than the picture for the RE320. The idea itself is rad, I'm just being a little nitpicky. lol
@TheBassChannel
@TheBassChannel 6 лет назад
Oh, I see. I’m sorry I misunderstood. I pulled the graphs directly from the websites, but I agree it’d be nice if they were identical.
@talimere
@talimere Год назад
In the frequency response diagram, it says 0.06m (2 ft), but 2 ft is 0.6 m.
@emiliodecinti5059
@emiliodecinti5059 3 года назад
i would mix the re320 or beta52 on the side and really close to the speaker for bass boost and put the sm57 at the center at a decent distance, for all the mids and growl. my favourite colour was the shure on the center, but i think the nicest for all purposes was the re320 on the side. thnx 4 the video.
@rockboy360
@rockboy360 3 года назад
The 57 didn't sound as fat but it sounded tighter.
@mannishboy1
@mannishboy1 6 лет назад
I like the SM57. More mid presence. The Beta 52 sounded hyped in the lows and highs with scooped mids. The RE320 was unremarkable. Kinda "meh." Just my two cents...
@planefixerguy5188
@planefixerguy5188 4 года назад
Mix the Beta and the SM57. Probably not a one size fits all answer. Also I've had decent luck with AKG D112. Not saying any better than the Beta. Just different. Might be worth a look.
@randyromero4808
@randyromero4808 2 года назад
The Beta and the AKG D112 are basically the same mic, right? Just a slightly different design.
@torothomassen9581
@torothomassen9581 2 года назад
Running a bi-amped setup. Run all my drivepedals through one amp, thats mid-heavy, and a clean low and tubey amp for the low-end. I’m thinkin that running the 57 on the effects amp and the 52 on the subby amp would be the best from two worlds🤟
@TheBassChannel
@TheBassChannel 2 года назад
I’d be inclined to agree!
@nandanaaryancas
@nandanaaryancas 3 года назад
when you're recording the audio, are you mixing a combination of the mic and the direct out or just used a mic for recording?
@GoodSneakers
@GoodSneakers Год назад
The RE320 sounds really good!
@theblowupdollsmusic
@theblowupdollsmusic 2 года назад
Great video, excellent playing! Thank you.
@indelebi
@indelebi 5 лет назад
This content is great. Thank you guys
@singleproppilot
@singleproppilot 6 лет назад
I actually liked the XLR direct outs better than any of the mics.
@UOttawaScotty
@UOttawaScotty 5 лет назад
some pretty good bass playing, thanks for the video guys ;)
@geckovision
@geckovision 2 года назад
1.) RE320 The best of both worlds. Very smooth low tone and loads of character. 2.) BETA 52 Very nice deep tone and subtle articulation. 3.) The 57 is not smooth. It's articulate. Bass is about tone, and groove not voice. 57 for guitar never bass unless it's all you've got.
@BillRouck
@BillRouck Год назад
Super helpful video, thanks!
@myriaprod2025
@myriaprod2025 5 лет назад
where is AKG D112 MK2 ??
@salottin
@salottin 4 года назад
Very nice! And very instructional! Thanks!
@gaboquintana3628
@gaboquintana3628 6 лет назад
great comparison it gets some miths debunked, sennheizer 421 does a good as well
@jasoncarraway966
@jasoncarraway966 5 лет назад
Trying to figure out which mic ima need to get some reasonable tones. This is a great video but I don’t like how you changed amp and bass. Just able to hear any sort of significant change with same setup+ different mic? I dunno I’m new to all this, it’s like relearning another damn instrument in and of itself even.
@SeSalauyou
@SeSalauyou 6 лет назад
re320 or sm57. Beta is weird
@Maddocklifts07
@Maddocklifts07 2 года назад
5:25 and 8:20 I need to know what song these are
@sixsentsoldiers
@sixsentsoldiers 4 года назад
Mic cab with a b52 and DI. Blend. Dishes are done. If your still not happy, maybe time to give your ears some time off.
@hummarstraful
@hummarstraful 4 года назад
Listening through a sub speaker and can't tell any difference between the 52 and the 57 in terms of the low end. Pretty revealing.
@nicomolina1458
@nicomolina1458 3 года назад
Very true response but in the mind of a producer who is going to be recording bass: I'd keep in mind that most people who will be listening to their track won't be listening through a sub speaker and more often than not some apple earbuds or cheaper. And in the majority of cases that extra bass and depth the shure beta 52 will come in handy to deliver that extra bass needed when not using subs
@jkvasn
@jkvasn 5 лет назад
nice playing
@OlliLappalainen
@OlliLappalainen 4 года назад
I wonder how SM57 in the middle for high klonks and pic sounds combined with Beta 52 more on the side to bring low freq emphasis would work as a blend? I want it all. :ddd
@Traumm9
@Traumm9 4 года назад
Excellent upload, many thanks for sharing :-)
@craigmoran893
@craigmoran893 6 лет назад
Electro Voice RE320
@NtWarlock
@NtWarlock 5 лет назад
Thank you for this great video I personally prefer the re320 In your opinion, which microphone gives the most natural sound?
@TheBassChannel
@TheBassChannel 5 лет назад
Of these 3, the RE320 is most natural.
@NtWarlock
@NtWarlock 5 лет назад
Thank you!
@raihanshrk1955
@raihanshrk1955 3 года назад
Are they cheap? Cuz i want to buy one
@TheSimonarne
@TheSimonarne 5 лет назад
why werent any ribbon microphones or condensor microphones used?
@ModPhreak
@ModPhreak 2 года назад
Cause they are cheap ass .... um any mics works when it clearly is not intended for bass at all. Your point is spot on, but in any case they just mix DI in anyway for buttom. Real studios use the expensive condenser mics and have flat response down to 20Hz.
@TheSimonarne
@TheSimonarne 2 года назад
@@ModPhreak been mixing mostly live drums. But yeah dynamic mics ina in out setup. One iside port or inside and one on the front or in tje port depending on the setup. Seems to give good choice for bottom end and click on live setting. Not sure about studios i have been in a studio for a 6 months once a week but didnt get to do drums mostly choir sub mixing
@RaptorT1V
@RaptorT1V 2 года назад
The shootout was amazing! Could you tell me, what songs did you play on bass guitars, please? I really liked them all very much. I'm reviewing this video just for the sake of these songs
@Maddocklifts07
@Maddocklifts07 2 года назад
That’s what I’m saying
@slayjah2
@slayjah2 2 года назад
Pretty sure all of their videos use original riffing in order to avoid copyright nonsense. I.e. you can't find the songs anywhere
@300ampeg
@300ampeg 3 года назад
Start with the 57/EV direct on speaker and, depending on the bass, a beta 52 off set.It ain't rocket science.
@arbitermatt
@arbitermatt 3 года назад
Just use the EV, no need to over complicate it with potential phase issues etc.
@Dannyroo08
@Dannyroo08 6 лет назад
would be cool to see a boss lmb-3 limiter/enhancer reviewed. do you guys have any suggestion on a compressor that can handle active basses well? my aguilar tlc squashes my high output 18v bass no matter how low the settings are, however it's perfect for all my passives. love the channel!
@TheBassChannel
@TheBassChannel 6 лет назад
Have you tried the Seymour Duncan Studio Bass? Also, keep your eyes peeled for something cool from across the pond in the near future...
@just_kyashi
@just_kyashi 6 лет назад
Beta 52
@jasoncarraway966
@jasoncarraway966 5 лет назад
Also, was the sound we the viewers are hearing coming from just the camera or is all this recorded in a DAW?
@TheBassChannel
@TheBassChannel 5 лет назад
The mics were all plugged into the camera via XLR.
@jesusflores2121
@jesusflores2121 5 лет назад
Shure SM 58 beta sounded overall better. However, I can see using the Re 320 or the SM57 to give it some depth in the mix. I liked Re 320 2nd best over all. The 57 seems like it would just be better as a contrast, or to give depth to the mix. Perhaps you don't want to highlight it as the main bass track, but just to give it a little character.
@Loki_FPV666
@Loki_FPV666 5 лет назад
My votes for the EV
@AJbassist
@AJbassist 6 лет назад
what the difference between Electro Voice RE320 vs RE20?
@TheBassChannel
@TheBassChannel 6 лет назад
There’s probably someone better qualified to answer this, but the quick answer is the RE320 has a switch to change the frequency response to be better suited to kick drums and has a bit more presence in the top end than the RE20.
@danielkorladis7869
@danielkorladis7869 6 лет назад
That's basically the difference. The RE20 has a second mode, too, but it's low cut for broadcast use.
@endtimeguitarist
@endtimeguitarist 5 лет назад
The bass at 5:24 sounds exactly like the Rickenbacker vst from native instruments when you use guitar rig with it. It makes me more impressed with the program but it still sounds bad. I feel like for the most part they all sound the same with slight differences making them right for different songs or genres. All I know is my Conklin with a d.i blew everything heard so far on this video. I would never use these sounds for my own recordings.
@kingbeat101
@kingbeat101 5 лет назад
Sure Beta 52A was my fav..
@endtimeguitarist
@endtimeguitarist 5 лет назад
I wish we heard the basses without different amps
@sixsentsoldiers
@sixsentsoldiers 4 года назад
Cant have it all, where would you put it.
@KptnHaddock_
@KptnHaddock_ 6 лет назад
I swear by the Audix d4
@andreirlmeier
@andreirlmeier 3 года назад
Sennheiser MD 421 is best
@educassiano
@educassiano 3 года назад
sm57 so punchy
@necroplasmodeus4598
@necroplasmodeus4598 3 года назад
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