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- Batman Beyond (2010) #1-6
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- Batman Beyond 2011 #1-3 - The Heart of the Matter
- Batman Beyond 2011 #4 - Legends of the Dark Knight: Max
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- Batman Beyond 2011 #8 - Legends of the Dark Knight: Inque
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- Superman Beyond #0
- Superman/Batman Annual #4
- Batman Beyond Unlimited #1-10/Superman Beyond Digital #1-10
4. Batman Beyond: 10,000 Clowns (Trade Paperback)
- Batman Beyond Unlimited #1-13/Batman Beyond Digital #1-18
5. Justice League Beyond: Konstriction (Trade Paperback)
- Batman Beyond Unlimited #1-10/Justice League Beyond Digital #1-16
6. Justice League Beyond: In Gods We Trust (Trade Paperback)
- Batman Beyond Unlimited #10-17/Justice League Beyond Digital #17-25 & Superman Beyond Digital #11-20
7. Batman Beyond: Batgirl Beyond (Trade Paperback)
- Batman Beyond Digital #19-29
8. Batman Beyond 2.0: Rewired (Trade Paperback)
- Batman Beyond Universe 2.0 #1-16
9. Justice League Beyond 2.0: Power Struggle (Trade Paperback)
- Justice League 2.0 #1-16
10. Batman Beyond 2.0: Justice Lords Beyond (Trade Paperback)
- Justice League Beyond 2.0 #17-24
- Batman Beyond Universe 2.0 #17-24
11. Batman Beyond 2.0: Mark of the Phantasm (Trade Paperback)
- Batman Beyond Universe 2.0 #25-40
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@dcauwatchtower
@dcauwatchtower 4 года назад
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@Beisenterg
@Beisenterg 4 года назад
*THiS vIdeo iS tAkInG fOr EvEr!!!!!!!!!!!*
@topsdaily_productions
@topsdaily_productions 4 года назад
When will DCAMU Timeline part 2 come out because remember at the end of part one the producer guy said none of the dates where accurate!
@dcauwatchtower
@dcauwatchtower 4 года назад
TopsDaily Productions We won’t be doing another timeline of those movies until more than 1 of them have come out since the last video ;) But also, those plot points will be followed up on in future installments of our in-WDb storyline! Those are all premiere videos.
@captainrgd1565
@captainrgd1565 4 года назад
What about DCeased?
@insanemakaioshin
@insanemakaioshin 4 года назад
that weird music in the background has me thinking, someone is screaming from the otherside of the house! Please never use it again!
@MoreLikeMagicMan
@MoreLikeMagicMan 4 года назад
I swear to god if young James and old James meet, and you don't recreate the Batman meeting Batman scene, I will be tremendously upset.
@PhantomObserver
@PhantomObserver 4 года назад
You might want to be careful about the Blinovitch Limitation Effect, though.
@dusanstojsin4938
@dusanstojsin4938 3 года назад
"James this is James, or have you met?" "Not now!" "What did they used to call it, stereo?"
@kurthurt5068
@kurthurt5068 2 года назад
As will i.
@tessewact
@tessewact 4 года назад
I can't believe that James never gets a lab coat in 40 years.
@ItsButterBean1020
@ItsButterBean1020 4 года назад
From now, whenever now is
@corneliusbinklefredickbear9936
@corneliusbinklefredickbear9936 4 года назад
@@ItsButterBean1020 know?
@JayTVIndia
@JayTVIndia 2 года назад
He was only reserved for Earth whatever......,
@joeker5208
@joeker5208 Год назад
I can’t believe it took him 50 years from now….whenever now is (even though this video was published in 2019), for James to cover this comic
@iiirdvii840
@iiirdvii840 4 года назад
Earth 12 isnt even cannon with Earth 12... bruh.
@GarrettTheViking
@GarrettTheViking 4 года назад
My theory is that Earth 12 is the earth of the alternate timeline created by Chronos in the JLU episode "The Once and Future Thing." The changes made to the past and future by Chronos could've had butterfly effects that slightly altered things, making this universe very similar to the original DCAU timeline. That's gonna be my headcanon from now on.
@billymccrary2246
@billymccrary2246 6 месяцев назад
That's seem like an interesting theory.
@Browser-go4eb
@Browser-go4eb 2 месяца назад
WOW. NICE THEORY. ITS MY HEADCANON NOW.
@PosthumanHeresy
@PosthumanHeresy 4 года назад
Ty Templeton: Oh, you wanna ignore my Red Hood? Now he's canon!
@michaelrhett4958
@michaelrhett4958 3 года назад
Exactly lol
@TevyaSmolka
@TevyaSmolka 4 года назад
Earth 12 sounds like a complete and utter mess
@jturner2577
@jturner2577 4 года назад
It is.
@TevyaSmolka
@TevyaSmolka 4 года назад
@@jturner2577 indeed and i am a huge fan of batman beyond
@ItsButterBean1020
@ItsButterBean1020 4 года назад
But we love it
@TevyaSmolka
@TevyaSmolka 4 года назад
@@ItsButterBean1020 i can agree with that
@mikeoxhuge423
@mikeoxhuge423 4 года назад
But they do have some great stories
@CapLives
@CapLives 4 года назад
I'd say it's DCAU adjacent
@marioss2167
@marioss2167 4 года назад
What does that mean?
@thedemon0843
@thedemon0843 3 года назад
@@marioss2167 it means the writers wanted a good story rather than perfectly aligned continuity
@VunderGuy
@VunderGuy 2 года назад
@@thedemon0843 No, what it means is that they were lazy. As a writer myself, I can confirm. And people wonder why Avatar: The Last Airbender is considered much better than the DCAU. The writers there never looked at continuity in that show, the biggest possible strength you could have if done well, as a burden, but something that is the biggest possible strength you could have if done well. It just requires excellence and most writers are ashamed to admit they're not as good as they want others to believe.
@matheus5230
@matheus5230 2 года назад
@@VunderGuy I love both the DCAU and Avatar The Last Airbender
@Emohawk707
@Emohawk707 4 года назад
Saying that Adventures in the DCU IS Earth 12 made my head explode, solved all of my issues with it and is now my head canon
@batman369able
@batman369able 11 месяцев назад
The concept of Tim as Batman Beyond was actually also hinted at the very end Tim Drake's Red Robin comic series
@Comic3247
@Comic3247 4 года назад
Justice league beyond is such an underrated team
@bashengatheblackmanta7003
@bashengatheblackmanta7003 4 года назад
I wish bruce timm would come up with a justice league beyond animated movie with the focus put on terry,micrpn,kai ro,aquagirl and warhawk
@ItsButterBean1020
@ItsButterBean1020 4 года назад
I’d love a whole show for them
@justchilling704
@justchilling704 3 года назад
@MOHAMMED WALI Where’s Wonder Woman as well?
@kurthurt5068
@kurthurt5068 2 года назад
@@justchilling704 Maybe she went back to themyscria?
@projekttaku1
@projekttaku1 Год назад
@@bashengatheblackmanta7003 I would personally just like a full on, massive scale reunion of the JL/JLU cast movie, put then all on some random island against a super strong big bad that requires the entire og 7 to beat them with cameos of heroes and villains also from the dcau, similar to JLU's big action scenes except on a much larger scale with it hopefully being theatrical (similar to phantasm).
@kevind.mendez7215
@kevind.mendez7215 4 года назад
good to know james ages as gracefully as bruce wayne does.
@kingjiggle4th789
@kingjiggle4th789 4 года назад
this episode is going to be so schway edit: it was schway
@Lone_Cyberman_Productions
@Lone_Cyberman_Productions 4 года назад
So shway
@dyland9745
@dyland9745 4 года назад
I don't wanna be that guy... But it's spelled "schway"
@kingjiggle4th789
@kingjiggle4th789 4 года назад
@@dyland9745 thanks it's now fixed
@MataNui.
@MataNui. 4 года назад
that word was always one of the dumbest things in that show.
@dyland9745
@dyland9745 4 года назад
@@MataNui. I like it. I actually use it in day to day life. I think it sounds cool.
@EmmanuelMarin07
@EmmanuelMarin07 4 года назад
LEX.~ 🎶 FLIPPIN'.~ 🎶 LU.~ 🎶 THOR.~ 🎶
@KairuHakubi
@KairuHakubi 3 года назад
boy I was really enjoying the video up to that point.
@joeeljalapeno1816
@joeeljalapeno1816 4 года назад
Really can’t wait to the next DC event that would contradict everything AGAIN
@ItsButterBean1020
@ItsButterBean1020 4 года назад
Get ready since it’s coming
@joeeljalapeno1816
@joeeljalapeno1816 4 года назад
James Burgess right the year of the villan, I forgot , I want to forget , dam
@rcbmmines4579
@rcbmmines4579 4 года назад
Joe el Jalapeño YOTV is just the beginning. The next Crisis is coming.
@GokaiDoctor
@GokaiDoctor 4 года назад
@@joeeljalapeno1816 Apparently next year will see the beginning of a new reset/reboot
@popburnsy3207
@popburnsy3207 4 года назад
@@ItsButterBean1020 it's not coming, it's been in progress since before Rebirth
@jacobwilliams1223
@jacobwilliams1223 2 года назад
I think the main issue and source of confusion is DC REALLY wants Terry to be tied to the main DCU universe in some capacity due to his popularity but it conflicts with the DCAU timeline for it to ever not confuse people.
@geoffreyrichards6079
@geoffreyrichards6079 4 года назад
It's possible that only a select amount of the DCAU is canon to Earth-12, with only certain episodes occurring as they were originally depicted, while other aspects differ. Of course, it's also possible (though possibly controversial) that the DCAU is a somewhat misconstrued account of Earth-12's history - sorta like how "Star Trek: The Animated Series" is regarded by particular Trekkies as an exaggerated depiction of the official canon rather than a straight-up portrayal.
@silvercomet6782
@silvercomet6782 4 года назад
I really like the idea that earth(-)12 is the adventures in the dcau earth, I'm gonna consider that canon
@cunnyman
@cunnyman 4 года назад
It's similar but not the same. I hate the parts like WW went to marry Justice Lords' Batman.
@joeker5208
@joeker5208 Год назад
I’ll just throw BTAC in that same timeline if you don’t mind
@turtleguy16
@turtleguy16 4 года назад
7:24 Marvel: We banished Nick Fury Sr. To the moon! DC: It’s free real estate.
@readyplayer3318
@readyplayer3318 4 года назад
Remember when Jason Todd didn't exist in the DCAU. Truly the dark ages.
@MrMegaman0607
@MrMegaman0607 3 года назад
*golden
@idkmantbhlol-fp8vq
@idkmantbhlol-fp8vq 2 года назад
Wiat he exists?
@JCOdrjones
@JCOdrjones 2 года назад
@@idkmantbhlol-fp8vq he does now in Batman The Adventure Continues comics
@KendrickHarrisKenfinity
@KendrickHarrisKenfinity 4 года назад
It's great to find out how the earth 12 beyond becomes more inspectable to find out what lines up, with our animated world! Keep it up!
@LAW-2905
@LAW-2905 4 года назад
Ok, no TV series I'm currently watching comes even CLOSE to getting me as hooked as this new Watchtower Database event! I can't wait to see how this will unfold!
@batmanfan6207
@batmanfan6207 4 года назад
So was that James's dad? And yeah I always figured earth 12 wasn't the dcau but a slightly altered version of it because hey, there is an infinite number of earths in the multiverse and why can't 2 earths be extremely similar but also quite the same :-)
@diegodankquixote-wry3242
@diegodankquixote-wry3242 4 года назад
Finally! Now this is _going_ to be *epik.*
@Velocity_AU
@Velocity_AU 4 года назад
I want a timeline on the Watchtower Database cause this is gonna cause some alternate timelines
@johnnydc7478
@johnnydc7478 4 года назад
the inferior five are OP how dare you !
@zediahcdemos9220
@zediahcdemos9220 4 года назад
The title alone is breaking my heart
@isetmfriendsofire
@isetmfriendsofire 4 года назад
My ambiguity: Exists This video: I'm about to end this man's whole career.
@andrescansecoorozco2788
@andrescansecoorozco2788 4 года назад
According to DC Entertainment Essential Novels and Chronology 2015 confirms that the tittle Batman Beyond Universe takes place on Earth 12; as it was published after the events of Flashpoint; meanwhile its prequel Batman Beyond Unlimited can also be deemed canonical. But it is unclear how previous stories such as Hush Beyond and the larger DCAU fit in Earth 12.
@BATTY3459
@BATTY3459 4 года назад
I think the long and short of it was multiple writers for the comics, each having different ideas on how their stories fit into the DCAU, but it would appear they didn’t consult each other or in some cases do their research into the shows properly.
@isetmfriendsofire
@isetmfriendsofire 4 года назад
BATTY3459 And now this comment is relevant again, seemingly, with The Adventures Continue.
@ForeverGotShorter
@ForeverGotShorter 4 года назад
Not sure if someone's brought it up in the comments already, but there's another major divergence between DCAU canon and Earth-12 canon. In an episode of Batman Beyond, Barbara mentions that Dick moved to Blüdhaven after he found out about Barbara and Bruce's relationship (ugh), and in ROTJ, she states that he was already living in Blüdhaven when Tim was kidnapped by the Joker. However, the Batman Beyond 2.0 book has Dick finding out about Bruce and Babs' relationship (once again, ugh) AFTER the events of the ROTJ flashbacks. I tend to think of Earth-12 as the "All-Star Superman" type version of the DCAU, it's got the same kind of "fuck it, let's use this universe as the base for it but throw stuff in from other versions of the these characters" approach to it, much like how All-Star Superman was mostly based on Silver Age Superman comics with some elements from different versions of Superman thrown in.
@AC-gb7do
@AC-gb7do 4 года назад
Ok, I’m gonna say it. Watchtower needs to be officially recognized by DC, they are that good!
@jturner2577
@jturner2577 4 года назад
@@mattiesavannahpahl9934 Can we read it?
@rcbmmines4579
@rcbmmines4579 4 года назад
@@mattiesavannahpahl9934 OOH awesome! I wish you guys good luck with that! Really you're work and obsession with continuity is almost unparalleled. You guys deserve some recognition and a bigger audience.
@rcbmmines4579
@rcbmmines4579 4 года назад
Great video guys! Damn I kind of knew about the low and mid tier stuff and IMO we can always ignore the Jason stuff (since it was only in a dream and he was never mentioned anywhere else) and even the Warhawk flashback (could be just Warhawk...having a dream?) but that Hawkman, Rann-Thanagar war and Joker part, plus the sheer amount of mid-tier stuff, convinced me. Good news I guess is that DCAU Bruce didn't impregnate Barbara and maybe we can have a proper Batman Beyond continuation in the DCAU loosely inspired by Earth 12.
@andrewhubbard1728
@andrewhubbard1728 4 года назад
I am looking forward to this and surely it will be stupendous.
@Gr4veM1nd
@Gr4veM1nd 3 года назад
I actually like Earth 12. While the continuity snarls with the DCAU can be infuriating, something about it just seems... I dunno, fuller than the DCAU itself in places. Like I can buy Jason Todd being in this universe better than how it was handled during BtAC. It establishes more elements to Terry that we sadly never got to see in the DCAU. I mean, in Earth 12, Terry gets his own Robin! And he gets his own Bat Signal! That's awesome! Not to mention he died and came back! That's practically a rite of passage in superhero comics!
@rcbmmines4579
@rcbmmines4579 4 года назад
Finally! I’ve been waiting a long time for this.
@Garrettsamuel98
@Garrettsamuel98 2 года назад
I don't take continuity errors that serious either :) BUT I love watching you break them all down & go into all the details! Whst about Green Lantern "First Flight" & Green Lantern "Emerald Knights"? I wonder if theres some fun continuity errors to break down with everything those add.
@erronblack3935
@erronblack3935 4 года назад
If Earth-12 and DCAU are different Earths but has some similarities this proves the saying of the opening of Injustice "I can say without a doubt that there are infinite number of universes. Some are just like our own...but for one or two significant,events exactly the same - Lex Luthor
@diegonei
@diegonei 4 года назад
I am so glad I subscribed to this channel a couple weeks ago.
@dtfilmmaker
@dtfilmmaker 4 года назад
Great video! The Lex flippin Luthor remix is dope and I can't wait to see what's next.
@juanpedro4129
@juanpedro4129 4 года назад
This is one of the best videos in channel. What an Amazing Job!!
@sebastienvondoom8615
@sebastienvondoom8615 4 года назад
LEX FLIPPIN LUTHOR
@MultiFirelover
@MultiFirelover 4 года назад
Gotta love me some will it cannon
@ShinySephiroth1
@ShinySephiroth1 Год назад
Yeah, in my toy collection I have three Batmen Beyond on display together: one for Earth 12 Terry, one for Earth 12 Tim (Future's End), and one for the DCAU Terry. On that note, I hate they never followed up the tease for whatever happened to Earth 12 Tim. I was certain he'd show up in Jor-El/Mr. Oz's cell alongside the Rebirth and Titans Tomorrow Tims, but... nope. :(
@infinityalbi9840
@infinityalbi9840 6 месяцев назад
Well, My Adventures With Superman claims that the DCAU is Earth 508, so if we want to give it a number, there it is. Though it could've been Earth 92, as a reference to when BTAS first aired.
@JamesLawner
@JamesLawner 3 года назад
These timelines are so confusing! But could explain some of the inconsistencies as "the universe was rebooted and now it's different".
@farrisward2211
@farrisward2211 4 года назад
Was hoping there would be more on the additional heroes introduced in all of the comics. Did your team see that the older Barry Allen introduced in his new year one story is active during the mainstream Beyond timeline? I love alternate futures and believe DC should be doing a lot more with the Beyond era. More legacy characters like Warhawk, maybe a new spin on the Question, Capt. Atom, Green Arrow, or Atom Smasher..?
@Madlibbber
@Madlibbber 4 года назад
This is the first time I’ve ever seen Matty out of his room
@andrescansecoorozco2788
@andrescansecoorozco2788 4 года назад
The way to identify the DC Multiverse is the following way: - Original Multiverse: The original multiverse is infinity and Every Earth below 52 are spelled out such as Earth-One, Earth-Two, Earth-Three, meanwhile every Earth above 52 is numbered with a hyphen. Also an earth can be designated with a word or letter such as Earth-S, Earth-X, Earth-Prime, Earth-Quality, etc. The 52 Multiverse: unlike the previous multiverse, this multiverse consists only with 52 universes and the designations are numbered with a hyphen. Such as Earth-0, Earth-1, Earth-2, Earth-3, etc. Multi-Multiverse: unlike the previous multiverse there are more of 52 universes, but outside of the local Multiverse. The designation is numbered but without the hyphen. Such Earth 0, Earth 1, Earth 2, Earth 3, etc. Also exists the monitor sphere, the god sphere, the speedforce wall, the bleed, the source wall, etc. The Dark Multiverse: unlike the previous multiverse, this multiverse is made of Dark Matter instead of positive Matter and is designated with negative numbers such as Earth -1, Earth -11, Earth -12, Earth -22, Earth -32, Earth -44 and Earth -52. Probably this Multiverse is infinity. This is according to convergence.
@joeker5208
@joeker5208 3 года назад
I don’t know what’s a better excuse, “Maybe Armory had a second kid with the same name” or “Sorry got to go I promised the guys at my dorm I’d clean out the fridge”.
@Vilivagod2
@Vilivagod2 4 года назад
Top tier effects, great video
@thecreatornooj1328
@thecreatornooj1328 6 месяцев назад
If Hypothetically the DCAU had an earth number in DC's 52 universes before the events of Flashpoint, the inconsistencies could be explained by that. Flashpoint resulted in timeline changes for all 52 universes, not just Earth Prime. We do later learn that these were caused by the arrival of Dr. Manhattan in the Divine Continuum, but either way Earth-12 could still canon from the angle that the DCAU timeline was altered. Which would mean that the DCAU as we know it would be a hypertime world, and the new history of these beyond comics is the new version. But believing this means that events like Death Metal had an impact on the DCAU as well, and according to that storyline, the DCAU we know would be back as a different numbered universe. That is, if I understand that event's consequences correctly
@sadib100
@sadib100 Год назад
I argued with someone online who kept stifling a conversation by constantly insisting that Earth-12 was actually called Earth 12 (with a space instead of hyphen) and that Earth-12 only refers to Pre-Flashpoint Earth-12. It was super pedantic and gatekeepy, not to mention completely wrong. People should have a holier-than-thou attitude about comics if they don't even read comics.
@nickh3205
@nickh3205 4 года назад
14:53 to help with Darkseid being alive thing(I know this is a few months after this video came out and that what I’m saying will probably be seen by someone and they’ll either say “That’s a comics thing that’s not applicable” or “sure”) it has been stated that that’s an avatar of the real darkseid(who is from a higher plane of existence) and that all Darkseids(animated and comics plus others versions) are just avatars and that the version from JLU is still in the Source Wall with Luther and a new version manifested many years later(also that lex Luther might be a backup clone that’s been programmed to be the “new” Lex[ Its not out of the question it’s DC after all but would be cool to see if it’s that])
@slay3r2049
@slay3r2049 4 года назад
This is an amazing Channel.
@theldrakis
@theldrakis Год назад
i seem to recall the first watch tower [in dcau] was destroyed. which means the 2nd one could have been a rebuild. as for the call i believe they said he would forget.
@bdr113080
@bdr113080 3 года назад
Great vid guys! Thank u!
@vincent_mrc44
@vincent_mrc44 4 года назад
Hi! Your video was really great ! On the other hand i noticed you forgot a inconsistency. In justice League beyond 2.0 #10 when we see the zombie felix faust Superman talks about the annihilator while he is supposed to be destroyed in the jlu episode the balance.
@dcauwatchtower
@dcauwatchtower 4 года назад
Yep, we noted that down but didn’t include it in the video. The Annihilator could have been rebuilt, or a number of other things off-screen in the 40-ish years’ time. There were TONS of other small things like this-it was more important to focus on the bigger arguments.
@conradlecroy5821
@conradlecroy5821 4 года назад
3:09 Don’t you dare bring up countdown 4:55 and don’t even start with Futures End 8:19 at this point, just stop bringing up bad comic events
@RyanConIon
@RyanConIon 4 года назад
I have always wondered when they refer to Wonder Woman in future shock if it is a different Wonder Woman.
@BovineDesigns
@BovineDesigns 4 года назад
11:57 Nice motion follow 😃
@michaelnoga3737
@michaelnoga3737 4 года назад
0:19 at least Mattie is out of the basement.... Huh, déjà vu...
@isetmfriendsofire
@isetmfriendsofire 4 года назад
I always sorta saw the Higgins run (2.0) specifically as in-universe, but not the others. I suppose I can accept it as head-canon only now, though. I wasn't really aware that ALL this was Earth-12. I do find the Warhawk argument a little weak, though, because I see it ultimately don't put much stock into theories involving math about the years. But that's just a me-thing, and it's also a case-by-case basis. The other evidence is pretty compelling, though!
@OllieConnorsFilms
@OllieConnorsFilms 4 года назад
Schway! James aged gracefully.
@spiderslayer3640
@spiderslayer3640 11 месяцев назад
And now, according to My Adventures With Superman, THEY are now Earth-12
@Dungeonstone
@Dungeonstone 4 года назад
1. A ringless John is on Rann as an advisor due to his military experience as well as experience policing the galaxy. (Seriously, Rann's "greatest hero" is a normal earthman who got zapped there one day by accident. even a ringless John Stewart would be like "Adam Strange 2.0" to these people. 2. At some point during the war, he and Hawkgirl hook up and Shiera gets pregnant. 3. Warhawk knows about John meeting him because John told him and Warhawk is sloppy with the description of events.
@thewilhelmscream7912
@thewilhelmscream7912 4 года назад
Great effort, more Beyond...more!!!!
@Bunbaroness
@Bunbaroness 4 года назад
Nice! This is the one I'd been waiting for.
@Demonstryke13
@Demonstryke13 4 года назад
I remember hearing once that they named Batman Beyond Tim in that story by mistake, and that mistake carried over into the action figure of that story. I think they intended for it to be the one from the show, but of course I could be wrong and if I am it's no big deal!!!
@SilverScarletSpider
@SilverScarletSpider 2 года назад
I’m so thankful that Earth 12 universe is different from the BTAS-JLU-Beyond universe. This means Batman never got Barbara Gordon Pregnant behind Dick Grayson’s back in BTAS Canon thank god
@prometheusmodelow8322
@prometheusmodelow8322 2 года назад
lol true, and the recounting of how Barbara's relationships went out in the episode itself is highly contradicted by the comic anyways.
@juanpere3209
@juanpere3209 3 года назад
The likes are 1999 now like the year batman Beyond come out
@moviehoarder8382
@moviehoarder8382 3 года назад
Hey Watchtower Database I've red Batman Beyond: Hush, Batman Beyond: Industrial Revelation, Batman Beyond 2.0 Volumes 1-3, Batman Beyond 10.000 Clowns and I really enjoyed them such amazing and fantastic Batman storylines!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Huge fan of Batman Beyond and thanks to y'all's video I'm going to re-read these Batman Beyond graphic novels!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thank you so much for the amazing DCAU videos :)
@HunterX05
@HunterX05 3 года назад
The "Jason Todd is not DCAU canon" as an evidence point did not age well
@dcauwatchtower
@dcauwatchtower 3 года назад
It’s also the shortest part of the video 🙏
@mechajay3358
@mechajay3358 4 года назад
13:54 Solid counter-point 🤔
@binsoku6
@binsoku6 3 года назад
Greetings from 2021 We no longer have the Multiverse, we have the Omniverse & Infinite Frontier.
@inesatt1313
@inesatt1313 Год назад
James you seriously need a PHD for all the efforts you made😍😊🥰👍
@shelbybayer200
@shelbybayer200 7 месяцев назад
I would like to think that Earth-12 Is a Fused Continuity universe It uses DCAU Story bites with it's own stuff Definitely not the DCAU itself
@dylanbeebe4403
@dylanbeebe4403 3 года назад
At this point I think to make things simple for DC I think there is a difference between Comic Multiverse and Media Multiverse (such as TV, Movies, and Games) since Earth 12 according to The Arrowverses Crisis On Infinite Earths is either Ryan Reynolds GL Movie or The New HBO Max Green Lantern Series so its probably not DCAU
@Juankprieto
@Juankprieto 5 месяцев назад
This video confused the heck out of me and I READ all those comics and events.
@garphan9535
@garphan9535 4 года назад
8:50 That’s not what happened in convergence, after convergence all the multiverses that was erased by reality altering events now exists alongside the current version of the DC multiverse
@cookiesnugglez7318
@cookiesnugglez7318 4 года назад
It's one of those universe that were like another but some things went down differently
@maxalain9948
@maxalain9948 3 года назад
3:35 DOESNT SEEM SO MUCH LIKE A CONTRADICTION NOW I SUPPOSE
@dcauwatchtower
@dcauwatchtower 3 года назад
It’s also the shortest segment of the video ;)
@coolguyhino92
@coolguyhino92 4 года назад
And here I was thinking, "Wow. He REALLY does have a very similar cadance and timbre to James." Whelp. Got it backwards. James has a remarkably similar voice to his father.
@ecks2087
@ecks2087 4 года назад
This just speaks volumes of how comic have an amazing amount of PLOT holes and barely give a F to clean them up. Marvel does it too but DC does it more than anyone else
@dandywaysofliving
@dandywaysofliving 3 года назад
Ayeee when u don't give a fuck. Why start now 🤣🤟😜
@jalapenoofjustice4682
@jalapenoofjustice4682 2 года назад
maybe John told Warhawk about those earlier events later? maybe there was a second Rann-Thanagar war? honestly most of these discrepancies are things I can look past, bigger discrepancies have happened within the comics
@JonathanLittle001
@JonathanLittle001 Год назад
@11:00... etrigan Doesn't rhyme?? Which episode I gotta rewatch to prove you right? 🤔at 19:00... wouldn't removal of his organic wings(+amnesia) explain th prosthetic ones... also where how did her realy get working prosthetic wings would they work on any human or just thsnsgatisns w/clipped wings? Forget if he was stronger or not🤔 curious
@Kyomusha
@Kyomusha 4 года назад
I honestly don't want it to be canon. The whole Bruce and Barbara thing really left a bad taste in my mouth :/
@Ahmed-DB
@Ahmed-DB 4 года назад
I mean, that was established in BB already so
@Kyomusha
@Kyomusha 4 года назад
@@Ahmed-DB Is that supposed to change my opinion?
@jturner2577
@jturner2577 4 года назад
@@Ahmed-DB True but it didn't go to deep into it.
@isabelr3467
@isabelr3467 4 года назад
Yeah same. I'm also not a fan of Vixen being killed by Shadow Thief in the Earth 12 timeline. That just felt cheap to me.
@ItsButterBean1020
@ItsButterBean1020 4 года назад
I mean it is meant to
@sinnyboy9317
@sinnyboy9317 4 года назад
31 minutes left. Can't. Contain... EXCITEMENT!!!
@prosperotorres7965
@prosperotorres7965 4 года назад
I always assumed that the Batman Beyond comics post-Future’s End & DC Rebirth took place in a timeline separate from the Timm-art style comics (that ran when tv show aired); Hush Beyond; Industrial Revolution; and the digital Unlimited comics (Batman; Superman & JL Beyond Unlimited). Batman Beyond shouldn’t be this convoluted LOL.
@Kpengie
@Kpengie 4 года назад
22:30 we... uh... we don't talk about that one...
@JohnDoe-qy5eu
@JohnDoe-qy5eu 4 года назад
I thought everyone already knew this
@dontemorgan1517
@dontemorgan1517 4 года назад
*sigh in happiness* Thank you.
@OmegaMan541
@OmegaMan541 10 месяцев назад
I have a theory that they have their own multiverses, DC's cartoons, shows, movies have their own multiverse separate to comics thats why they have their own crisis' and other things like their own Monitor and Anti-Monitor. Maybe multiverses have their own main timelines that create parallel multiverses? Who knows, ask Morrison. 'Nuff said.
@metal87power
@metal87power 4 года назад
You missed the fact that the Young Justice TV series is based on the comic series with the same title - Young Justice.
@dcauwatchtower
@dcauwatchtower 4 года назад
The DC site is specifically referring to and linking to the animated series.
@tincat2347
@tincat2347 7 месяцев назад
Okay blight getting the terminology wrong makes sense because he was pinned under water and probably lets off enough energy to boil the water around him which probably injured him at some level because well he is still mostly human
@marktaylor6553
@marktaylor6553 2 года назад
Each Earth of the 'Main Earths' has Quantum variations. In other words, those are each 'prime Dimensions' of their own, whereas the 'echoes' from each Earth are merely 'Planes', or to put it in DC Comics lingo, they 'vibrate at a slightly different frequency'. Basically, the New 52 is an Omniverse, and 52 are multiverses containing very similar versions of itself.Thus, traveling from one Dimension (52 'known') to another will not always lead to the same version of that Dimension from your last encounter.
@CinematicController
@CinematicController 4 года назад
My personal theory was awlays that earth 12 WAS the dcau but we know that events like flashpoint and convergence changed the entire multiverse and so the earth 12 we've seen sense has been just that. The for lack of better words post reboot dcau. A world built from the same material and fundamentals but still edited in several small but signifigant ways. And admitidly while we "saw" the previous earth 12 we also know that some worlds have had their numbers changed before.
@dtfilmmaker
@dtfilmmaker 4 года назад
13:56 the best part
@cleverfoxseer7023
@cleverfoxseer7023 4 года назад
Well E12 is DCAU Earth with new paint so some events happened other way
@vanceamania
@vanceamania 11 месяцев назад
Great video
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