And yet when Damian dies, Batman shows just how much he truly loves his biological son. He went to darkseids homeworld to battle him for a shard to bring back Damian. Now that’s a unbreakable love a father has for his child
According to Dick Grayson both batman and superman were his main influence when it came to developing Nightwing. Dick Grayson is the one that keeps the bat family grounded and wholesome
But Dick would tell you it's because of Bruce that he was able to overcome his trauma. The father is supposed to provide a way for his son to surpass him, and that's what Bruce did.
@Dick Grayson "doesn't bring himself down" You really need to read the 90s run of Nightwing bcs he was really fucking depressed and traumatized in that one and pretty much loathed himself every issue ever since Blockbuster died.
Hearing Batman of all characters get sentimental in this way was really powerful didn’t fail to make me slightly emotionally. I love the story of Dick Grayson and Bruce Wayne. Props to this game for showing the tragically realistic father son relationship these two have. Bruce was a stubborn bastard but it’s easy to tell he wanted to be a good dad and loved Dick a lot.
The Older I get the more I realize that Dick Grayson is the only true person to ever replace Bruce as Batman and even then he doesn't need to as he is still his own hero.
@@discorddiscord2647 In gotham Knights batman dies while fighting Ra's al ghul. Barbara, Jason, Tim and Grayson take over to protect gotham and solve the case about the cult of owls, that bruce was working on, while also managing a few villains storyquests. There are many things you can find, such as these audio files. The game emphazises the Batfamilies releationship and shows bruces fatherly side. For me it's a very wholesome and enjoyable experience, even if the game is quite a bit unpolished i have a lot of fun.
@@pedrobernardes98 Yes, moments where you don’t feel anything because you felt nothing for the characters. Alfred barely had any emotion and Batman moved on from situations within two seconds. Only game with actual developed and earned heartfelt moments is Origins.
I want the Batsuit for Dick so bad, maybe as DLC someday. As Bruce says here Dick rejects and seems to be a far cry from what Batman is but in reality Bruce wants Batman to become more like Nightwing and would gladly give him the mantle.
Agreed! I wouldn't mind if we just got a customizable Knighthood suit that you can change the Symbol to a Bat symbol and his mask to a Bat cowl. I would be satisfied with that honestly
@@KSIDDHESH This isn't part of the Arkham Series, Barbara is Batgirl here, instead of Oracle, but in the Arkham Series, she's Oracle because of Joker shooting her in the spine and paralyzing her from the waist down, and this happens long before Bruce "dies" in Knight.
@@starkiller6558 Okay my man, let me correct few of your "mistakes" in this comment. First, it was hinted time and again, that this Babs was also paralyzed at some point. During that time she became Oracle. This pretty much follow it's comic books counterpart. In fact, after learning about to court of owls, she specifically said: "I was an Oracle...". After several years of being wheelchair-bound, there was some brilliant medical treatment meant for the people like Babs(whose spine, in the LOWER BACK, was damaged and so that she lost her legs). She underwent surgery, it was success and she returned as Batgirl. It was alluded several times through this game, that Babs was in deed in wheelchair till some point in the story(the one scene that is seared in my mind is when Babs is training with that "training dummy" and she tells Dick, that she has troubles with her LOWER BACK, which is exactly where she was shot). I am not saying this is a sequel, i am not even saying it is the same universe as Arkham series, but it is definitely AFTER Babs was shot and "cured", not "long before".
These audio logs have always been one of my favorite parts of the Batman games. My favorite has to be the Victor Zaaz audio logs from Arkham City but there are so many good ones. I love this one too.
Damn I just wrote something to this nature on a blog describing the Bruce Wayne and Dick Grayson dynamic “People forget because of the whole Batman and Robin theme is the reason why Bruce and Dicks relationship was much deeper than the other Robins including Damian. Not cause Dick was the first, but Dick saw Bruce at growth time in his life that Bruce as Batman and Batman as Bruce had yet to truly master. Bruce gets what Grayson is going thru, they’re the same. Losing someone you love is one thing, but witnessing it takes a huge toll. The only difference, is Bruce got to Dick super early and helped him channel his anger into crime fighting. While it’s not the best therapy, it helped Grayson early in his life and he is the embodiment of what Bruce wants to be as everyday man and a crime fighter. What he truly wants Batman to symbolize!! Some people see the heir to Batman in Dick, but Bruce will one day realize that as he is the better version of all Wayne men Nightwing is the better version of The Batman. He needs Dick to be Nightwing, not Batman” Idk if I was spot on with my response
Of all the people who took up the mantle of Robin he always looked at Dick Grayson as his real son. Yeah there was time Bruce was like a horrible father and very stubborn, but he did try and be a great father figure or just straight up father to Dick. He just want the best for him more than anything. They did have their arguments and all, but who doesn’t have their arguments with their parents?? For him to finally call Dick his son was emotional in a great way, he even showed it he wish deep down he can be like Dick because of him he hold Bruce together and there was times Bruce cannot help but smile at Dick. He is the definition of Bruce’s favourite and true son🥲
I always saw Dick as the next Batman growing up he's earned it sure he and Bruce had their anger issue moments but still they were so close love how Bruce call's him his son cause I also saw Dick as Bruce's son he'll never forget his real parents but Bruce did a good job raising Dick I'd say. Bruce may look really strong on the outside but as you can see here he's pretty soft on the inside he's had his moments when he can actually show his deepest emotions were we actually see him breakdown and even cry in Injustice when Dick died some fans were shocked Bruce cried and I'm like uh hello that was his son guys sure some of you may not think so but yes Dick is Bruce's oldest son Damien may be his biological son but blood doesn't matter when it comes to family can be a close friend as a brother or sister. And Dick was a good friend but more of a son to Bruce he loved Dick and probably never told him how truly proud he was of him so many words left unspoken like here in this audio recoding never said the words to Dick in person like he should have when he had the chance.
Gotham Knights: „Batman dies and records such emotional tapes for his protégées to find. Everyone is deeply hurt with Batman‘s loss...“ Also Gotham Knights: „Hey guys! The pride parade is next week and we all have to wear rainbows then! Also, Tim Drake needs help finding Bigfoot!“
Yeah, I felt the same way. Like, great you want to add the pride stuff.. how about you save that for a posting ending of the main campaign after the final chapter with the court of owls. It's just crowbarred in and tone deaf as to the priorities of the knights after their father/uncle figure died.
This made me think of the new injustice movie when nightwing is killed by accident by damien and bruce loses all composure and eventually breaks down with catwoman later like obviously this is from a different source but I was listening as if this was the injustice batman saying all the things he wished he could've before he died like even the last part "I'll tell him next time he's home" to me sounds like a parent would hasn't accepted their child is gone
I wish there was more to this game but goddamn they got the batfamily dynamic PERFECT. This family dynamic in the Arkham games would have made those games even better
Damn I’ll give the game this. Has to be one of the saddest messages from Batman. He was always proud of Dick he just could never say it to him honestly
I need to absolutely praise Michael Antonakos here. He absolutely nails the performance here he sounds destroyed and that is exactly the delivery he needed he didnt get caught up in being Batman here he just focused on a playing a father realizing how much his son mattered to him and how badly he screwed up their relationship desperately wanting a chance to see him and be close with him again
This game has lots of issues, it could have been more, so much better, it had lots of potential, but one thing I will say is that I can see that the developers had passion, they liked the lore of the bat family, of batman, they knew, and they did their best to deliver a good story, and I love this, I enjoyed the story, really, especially hearing these audios, listening the characters talk between each other, the family dynamic, wonderful. However, I still can't fully accept the fact that a story like this, that was meant to be played with all the bat family members together, with more lines, was instead developed as a single player run, sure they talked later, but it still missed something you know... I understand that they did it for gameplay reasons, but if they could have found a way, they made a bad call with this kind of gameplay in my opinion.
Dick Grayson: The son who over came the trauma through the hard work Batman put him through. Finds hope. While Bruce stares into the abyss, Dick smiles at it.
Still crazy to think people battered this game for shitty gameplay, and to be fair, it was no Arkham game. But the vast majority let that get in the way of acknowledging that it had an excellent story. Every characterisation is perfect to a tee.
I read one comic where dick was batman when Bruce disappeared and commissioner Gordon immediately knew that he was nightwing in that suit and Gordon said that some cops in the gcpd prefer him over bruce and I was like what 😂😂😂
After seeing what rocksteady did I’m going to buy this game At least it treats Batman with respect And I get to play as my all time favourite character Nightwing
I don’t blame you man, it’s exactly what I did too, and honestly after ssktjl i believe i judged Gotham Knights way too hard, it’s truly not that bad, not faultless but not bad
This game mite be mid but let it never be said it's has probably the best version of batman aside from the comics and arkham series and maybe telltale too
Bruce was never a adoptive father to dick and dick was never a adoptive son to Bruce what they had was real. when dick was growing up all he wanted was to be like batman/Bruce and all Bruce wanted was for dick not to be like him
Your kinda right, when dick was growing up he wanted to be like Bruce, be THE Batman, but as he aged he saw that darkness in Bruce, what drove him and he didn’t want to be that, nor did Bruce want him to become that, he wanted to steer him in the direction to be a better man, and that’s exactly what Bruce did. While Bruce may never be dicks biological father, we all know that Bruce loves him like a father would his son. That’s the beauty of their dynamic, dick is his own man and Bruce aspires to share that light he has just like he does Superman, he may not be perfect but he tries (when the writers let him anyway)