Yeah because he's thinking the same thing, like how many times am I going to be aloud to stand before a judge before one of them decides to execute me 😂
@@OfficialLatrell wait I thought he played batman in something recently? Didnt know he played Jason at any point. But I thought his voice sounded familiar
His name is jensen ackles, definitely did a great job and he also voiced batman in both long Halloween one and long Halloween 2 and now it seem as tho he will be batman for brave and the bold.
This is part always hurt because jason did understand and he even told batman "I'm not talking about killing scarecrow or dent or penguin, just him and doing it because he took me away from you"
@@Nepafariusthat was the part he couldn't understand, robin views batman alike a holy knight with a divine crusade, he. alike most within Gotham. can't imagine Batman once step from hell at all times,
I’m not entirely sure, but I read this somewhere that insane people can’t be sentenced to death. Which is why joker was scrambling to get money together in “Joker’s Millions” to pay off the IRS. Because if a person can commit tax fraud, they can be prosecuted for their trials. Or something like that, I’m not entirely sure
Its a mixture of corruption and bruce not doing anything to give all the evidence. Its stupid that batman doesnt just send him to supermans prison or something
After Jason's death in the movie, it is implied by the Joker that Batman put him in a body cast for almost a year. So, Batman definitely wasn't gentle with Joker when he put him away.
Batman can stay on his moral code, but what he doesn't understand is that the justice system is not properly dealing with joker. Allowing a problem to propagate when you can actively do something against it is negligent ash. Most of his other criminals stay in jail for a period of time before they come out. Joker is one that consistently never stays locked up and brings in the most dead bodies. If Batman were to take out joker, then criminals would want to mess with him less than they already do.
And the riddler, two face, penguin, Mr freeze, calander man, kite man, and the hundred others. He could just ki11 them all to send a message right? he did it once. Why not. Then the burgers to send a message to all burglers,then the shop lifters, then the Jay walkers until everyone in Gotham is to afraid to commit any crimes. And now Batman has ki11ed more than any of his villans ever did. This actually happened in many stories.
That’s the point Batman and his no kill rule is important because it represents justice that is incapable of happening in our world and as we see in Gotham it’s an impossible fight trying to be won in the hopes of that tiny chance of change
Batman clearly understands that, but he already said what would happen if he did kill the joker. He’d just keep killing all the criminals in Gotham just like Jason was doing (most of them deserve death but there are a few that aren’t even evil that deserve a second chance). That’s why he sticks to his moral code. Just look at what happened to injustice Superman, sure it’s not canon but it’s lead up to what he became is just as relevant here as it was there.
@Mega88888 in real life you have a point. But this is Batman, he is already a mentally broken person, one more push would put him over the edge, which is why the joker is always trying to do just that. He knows what will happen if batman breaks his rule. And his whole game is to make batman just like him. Thats why he calls super easy mode because it is so easy to make Clark turn tyrant.
No, Jason misunderstands. Yes, someone should kill the Joker. Just the Joker. But it can't be Batman. Batman won't be able to stop himself from killing again, and again, and again, because once he starts justifying it in his head, he'll think of all the others that he repeatedly gave second chances to and wonder if it's really worth it to keep doing that. If he goes down that road and starts killing them all, he won't stop. Also? Batman literally has one rule: he doesn't kill. Everybody knows this. All his villains know this. They use this knowledge to get away with stuff. If Batman starts killing? If he says, "Jail? I was thinking more like the morgue." Can you imagine the chaos? The villains would be desperate not to get caught, and might cause more casualties than they did before, just so they could get away. Desperation can drive a person to do some really incredible-or horrific-things. A great example of this was in the movie Megamind. Megamind was so used to Metroman always throwing him in jail after his crimes, he didn't plan for what to do when Titan was genuinely trying to kill him. Megamind had never truly won against Metroman, but it wasn't necessary, because he was never in any true danger. Now, he has to defeat Titan, who has all the same powers as Metroman, and none of his moral code. And he does it, because he finally has a reason to win. Another thing is that some of Batman's villains are mentally ill and they can get better with proper treatment. In Batman: Wayne Family Adventures, Poison Ivy is mostly, if not entirely, reformed, and Harley Quinn actually helps the vigilantes on occasion. If Batman starts killing, he takes away the chance to have that. Everyone jokes about how Batman beats up the mentally ill, but if the alternative is killing them just because they were mentally ill and did something less than legal? A few broken bones sounds like a small price to pay in comparison.
The best part here is that he doesn't say "I'll be as bad as him" he says "I'll never go back." Batman is all too aware of what he is and what he's capable of, he won't cross his line not because he can't, or that he thinks everyone is redeemable, it's because he knows that he will become as bad or worse than his villains if he does and I love that the writers put it that way here
Batman is the only hero i forgive for not killing his enemies, bc i genuinely dont think there would be enough of himself left afterwards to ever stop, and the world will always need a batman.
@@phillipwhite948 she literally committed multiple crimes against humanity to ensure the birth of Terry McGinnis, the genetic son of Bruce Wayne via high tech cuckolding of Mr. McGinnis (poor bastard) even arranging the attack that led to the death of Mr. McGinnis. just because she refused to let Batman's legacy die out, regardless of Bruce's opinions on the matter. I'm glad red hood can step in to be the angel of death Gotham needs, but I actually understand and forgive Bruce for not being able to finish the job
Batman is trash! he consistently lets joker escape and murder millions of innocent people! idk how people keep ignoring that simple fact! i lost respect after he let Joker do that to Robin! and then in turn still has conversations with Joker they even laughed together at one point which makes no sense to me!
If Batman DID kill the joker, the experience would change him into something unrecognizable. He is already teetering on the edge of sanity. He would cease to be Batman. I uniquely don't blame him for not killing his enemies bc his phyche just wouldn't handle it well at all. Other heroes have no excuses, but Batman knows his limit, and I can respect that.
Ngl if Jason or Injustice Superman saw many variants of Batman became psychopathic serial killers solely because Batman decided to break his one rule, they would be thanking him
But that hyperitce does the same and worse even damian is better than that criminal he shot batman who agreed to end the joker if he wanted to but didn't shoot the joker😂
The thing is if he killed joker he would become evil like him Remember the line :you see yourself die as a hero or live longer to see yourself become a villain
As crazy as it sounds its true, every alternate world batman has killed he alway turned evil and even killed his entire world which shows how dangerous he is
fr like when he killed joker he became the darkest knight. "For a universe as bright as day, there will always be... A Darkest Knight." -OfficialDivine
In alternative injustice world batman killed joker and goes to jail and world is fine In dark knight returns batman killed joker and also world is fine
The thing many people don't understand is that Batman CAN'T kill people. Not won't, can't. He's a man defined by trauma, already hanging onto his sanity by the thread that is Batman. If Batman kills, then Batman is gone, and only a broken man remains. In the best case scenario, he gives up on his crusade. In the worst case scenario, he becomes nothing more than another criminal prowling the streets of Gotham. Because if he justifies murdering once, what's stopping him from murdering twice? Thrice? He's not gonna turn into a homicidal maniac over night, but Gotham is so goddamn bad that there always will be criminal "worth killing". Once you cross the line, it's easy crossing it again, and again.
Y'all blaming Bruce for not killing him? While Bruce was right. It always starts with one, we saw when superman killed the joker what happened. And it was not a good thing.
@@stanleybalan55 if Bruce killed joker he'd become the batman who laughs which is way more worse than joker himself, batman doesn't play judge. He just arrest the villains and the GCPD is the one who's supposed to do the job,
@@Andy_DakLover. so you telling me batman doesn't have gadgets to stop that gas from reaching him? and if you fear you'll become just like joker maybe he isn't the hero he thought he was!
@@Darktrap11 buddy boy, being purple doesn’t mean you are William afton. You ain’t even got the intellectual skills to build such things as he has, get away with murder, and continue to “thrive” for years and years and years even with such suffering.
Robin slowly realizes he's right, his arm feels heavy and he brings it down and then pulls the trigger. "You won't have to worry about taking that path again."
Every time I think of Batman and Joker’s dynamic, I’ll always think of that line from DBZ Abridged with how Tien always messes with Vegeta Yamcha: “You know he can kill you right?” Tien: “At this point, it’s a game. If he gives in, I win.”
Its not batman's fault. Its the fault of the police, the staff at arkham asylum and the people in power of gotham city. If arkham had competent security, joker would never be able to escape innumerable times like he does or if the gcpd were actually competent they'd have gunned him down, and don't even get me started on the gotham courts, after everything joker has done, they still don't give him a death sentence so let me reiterate, it is NOT batman's fault.
@Delta1987 he only interferes if someone tries to kill joker illegally like other criminals or other vigilantes. Cops have every right to shoot joker, batman won't interfere if they shoot and kill joker because they're not acting outside the law. He only saves joker when people who act outside the law try to kill him. Its not batman's fault, blame the cops, arkham asylum security, gotham courts and the people in power of gotham.
@@idkidk503 after the second, third or fourth time of joker getting away with it, it is batman's fault, for him to apprehend such a dangerous individual, and making the mistake to deliver him to a flawed system, that's irresponsable and borderline incompetent, it's easy to clean his hands saying, it's not up to me to decide his faith, it's the systems, when he clearly sees time and time again the system fail to deal with it correctly.
@@15OgLoc according to you, all no kill rule superheroes suck because the same thing happens to them Spider-man lets carnage go, he escapes from prison Superman traps doomsday into the phantom zone, he breaks out Daredevil lets bullseye go, he breaks out of prison Countless examples, really. But no, yall have to go after only batman for some reason, never understood why.
The entire reason Batman doesn’t kill isn’t because of the whole “it makes me no better than them” mantra. It’s because he KNOWS he’s capable of it. He is fully willing to. But he also knows that it will be the end of everything he stands for. Of everything Batman stands for.
For a man whose will is so strong as to not kill someone who has brutally murdered and tortured members of his family, and the public, is his will power so lacking he can’t stop himself from killing innocent people after the fact? It’s completely ironic and wrong
The thing is that if the real world had a Batman or a Daredevil, there would be a Red Hood or Punisher as well. One will either inspire the other or they’ll both naturally come out. Neither will ever condone each other and they’ll fight each other if they ever cross paths. But they both represent the values of those who are failed by the established justice system. Criminals need to be stopped, one way or another.
@@Freddy-xz9nf He just made superman kill wife and his unborn child, also he nuke the cities, i mean with that population of death is kinda minimum compare to the amount of years and time Joker spent to kill and traumatized other people which it might haunt them to their death, and honestly the nuke in the cities really is a peaceful death to feel pain in 1 sec and then the pain go away
Check out Killing Joke if you wanna see a totally unhinged Batman & Joker. Joker literally fills a warehouse full of baby dolls and tricks Gordon’s daughter in to saving the “babies” and then he r*pes and murders her and sends the pictures of her corpse to Gordon’s phone…it’s fucked.
I love how batmans code works. But sometimes its misinterpreted by some shows or people. This show describes it greatly. HE'S afraid of what HE will do to OTHER villains or robbers who are not as close to being as bad as Joker, and yet he's afraid he'll want to kill all villains. Like it's explained, he'll become just as bad as Joker or even worse if he doesn't care about life.
YES thank you. So many people don't understand this. Killing the joker isn't the problem, it's the precedent it would be setting, the precedent that Batman can deal out death in judgement, which would cause more evil than any villain could.
There is a walking thin line between forgiveness and repentance; in Batman's case, he understood how there are certain boundaries that shouldn't be crossed.
They explain in the comics why Batman couldn’t kill the Joker, because he wanted to and he went to go do it but was stopped by Superman. The reason being that Joker was made the UN ambassador for Iran giving him diplomatic immunity (and at the time Superman was the US government’s bitch)
@Delta1987 because the guy in charge of Iran new it would allow him to escape prosecution for his crimes and give some kind of weird psychological advantage in the UN
I also think its bc Batman thinks about what other villians would do in response to the death of The Joker. Some of them would probably stay away from Crime but i feel others like Harley, Ra's al Ghul, Scarecrow etc... would actively do more to Batman which would only thurther damage him and increase his risk of harm and death to him, his fellow heros and civilians, in addition like the video says it could bring him deeper into this dark hole that he cant escape.
If he kills once it becomes "well i killed person A before so it's not like i can't just kill person B, it would be easier" and so on, the moment you deem it acceptable under any circumstance it becomes too easy to justify using it any time
Because Batman actively looked for evidence to exonerate the Joker when he was on Death Row, I'm not kidding; Joker got framed for a murder (ironic ain't it?) because someone got his hands on Joker's gasses and thus Joker got busted for it and placed on Death Row. Batman, realizing he didn't do it because he's Batman, actually got the real killer arrested and got Joker exonerated, and what's worse is Alfred and (I think, could be wrong) a few others actually told Batman to walk away and let Joker die and he refused...
“Why I’m not talking about killing Penguin or scarecrow or dent I’m talking about him, just him and doing it because, because he took me away from you”
Batman’s right here, he doesn’t have to be the executioner. It’s hypocritical to critisize batman for not finishing the job when the Gotham justice system had hundreds of chances to give Joker the death penalty.
It doesn't matter whether he kills Joker or Let others kill him,what's important is the reason behind that action,if its for good there is nothing wrong in that. If batman had ever read Indian philosophy he wouldn't be hesitant to kill joker. One relevant quote from the Mahabharata is: "In the war of dharma (righteousness), one may choose to fight against adharma (wrongdoing), but must not become adharma itself." This emphasizes the importance of maintaining one's moral integrity even in the face of great conflict, which resonates with Batman's struggle to uphold his principles while combating evil, including the Joker. 😂😅 i think i took this short too seriously bcoz Batman my favorite hero from DC😆.
Hire deadshot to do it, get red hood to do it, make sure he doesn't escape before his execution. There's so many ways to kill him but mo the writers will never touch them
Guys, that moral code is what’s stopping him from turning into the punisher. My man pushes henchmen to the brink of death casually, he’d definitely become a mass murderer because each time he kills, it just gets easier and easier and he only becomes more apathetic
@@Blackout7177He does, he just dont agree with it. Batman doesnt kill simply because he's as mad as the Joker himself. He keeps letting sociopath serial killers having a chance of breaking out of prison, so he can haunt them down again. Jason would've been a way better protector to the city
This not only explains why he doesn't kill The Joker, but why he doesn't kill--period. If he crosses that liner once, it would be too easy--especially with his skills and gadgets--to keep crossing it.
I like Batmans refusal to kill. Shows, to me at least, that he knows just as well as the Joker that killing him wouldnt fix anything. Sure, people wouldnt be hurt by the Joker anymore but its obvious his fans would rise up in his absence. I doubt Batman would be able to stop after the first kill either, dealing with other criminals the same whether they deserve it or not. Batman cant kill the Joker. Bc it would only prove him right. Or funny comic or brrr, idk
I agree with you 100%, but I'll speak on behalf of Batman here. You see, once he kills someone, it gets easier to kill others. At the end of the day, he'll even be killing a hungry thief because they broke the code. Batman isn't like the average Joe who only kills because they did it out of self-defense and would never do it again. Batman is constantly fighting against people and beings who mess with his mentality. Beings like Joker , Darkseid, or any other villain. Do you know about the Batman who laughs? Yea, he'll become like that. Also, do you remember what Damian did in the injustice and how arrogant he became, he might also be like that.
@@amiinz4130 i 100% agree with you but i dont know why gotham doesnt just use the death penalty it would make everything much easier for batman and gotham like also gotham is the city with the most amount of crime so it would just make sense for the joker and all the villians to just get the death penalty
I always hated this scene because joker is just on the other side of the door and Jason says Bruce’s name and I’m like is joker deaf or is he just gonna pretend for the rest of time that he didn’t hear Batman’s real name
@@mnkdeadshot9072Istg say Batman Who Laughs one more time as an excuse for why Batman shouldn’t kill He inhaled Joker toxin. He didn’t go crazy on his own. Literally all he gotta do is snap is neck and not inhale the gas
"WHY THE HELL IS HE STILL ALIVE!?" said the man who hasn't killed him yet, just to have a petty shouting match with someone who he should be all means know the reasoning behin his decision to not kill. Jason isn't in the right here, he isn't as long as he lets joker live while he takes his sweet time being petty instead of bringing justice.
This animated movie series should’ve been a live adaptation ages ago. I think this is the kind of story that would attract people who aren’t even into the superhero genre.
His moral code might be the most stupidest one in all of fiction.......the real reason he doesn't kill joker because other than joker he has no nemesis to waste his time on
Still my fav explanation for why Batman doesn't kill. You can understand it both ways. Either it would be the end of the Icon of Batman, or it would be the end of the good Batman since he can't hold himself back anymore from just killing any villain. Bruce knows how dangerous he can be.
Spider-man lets carnage go, he escapes from prison Superman traps doomsday into the phantom zone, he breaks out Daredevil lets bullseye go, he breaks out of prison Countless examples, really. But no, yall have to go after only batman for some reason
He plainly explains the situation here. Batman is the greatest detective, meaning he has a perfect grasp of situations and people, including himself. He is never vain. He says that once he allows himself the privilage of killing he won't be able to stop. The joker is the worst person ever. After a month of his death there will be a next worst person ever and in 10 years Batman will be hanging people who ignored the red light.
The sad part is that both are right in thier way. Jason was the one tortured day and night and wanting to kill joker, while bruce cant as he if he does he will keep killing people to the point where he isnt batman anymore but just an another joker..
What's funny is that he never brings up that he doesn't kill because he doesn't want his parents to be disappointed, he wants to be a good guy and save everyone because if he just killed, their deaths would be in vain
Jason Todd is no better. The brat could've killed the joker at any given time but instead he lets the joker live just ton have a shouting match with Batman.
That movie damn! underrated That scenes plus music under background men damn! Good that's why it's the best scene in time 😎 we understand why batman will never break his rule he prefers to neutralize his enemies with concussions and trauma
this version of batman understands that he doesn't have the right to choose between who lives and who dies, he doesnt play God, like most superheroes do who feel like they are justified to kill, Batman has more dignity, integrity and discipline than any other, and it shows with how hard he is on himself with his Moral Standards
Imagine your entire family died bc Batman refused to kill the joker who then escaped Arkham again (which is so *escapable* they should replace the front desk with revolving doors) and you hear that Batman won’t kill joker (although completely in the power to do so) bc “it would be too easy”?!?!
