Toronto Sun Editor-in-Chief Adrienne Batra talks with Sun political columnists Brian Lilley and Warren Kinsella about the consequences of Canada not paying it’s share of military spending as a NATO member.
It's all a part of people harming people for enjoyment! This so-called way of life is a fraud and/or a scam that keeps going because next to nobody cares enough to end it for an actual reasonable way of life that everyone needed long ago! But are you too harmed to even realize this ugly truth, let alone help stop this horribleness for an actual reasonable way of life that also has to be realized?
Yeah, Trudeau's far too busy sending BILLIONS of dollars to the Ukraine war. I'm sure Biden loves that. Canadians don't. Like you, we're stuck with Trudeau for likely about 16 more months. At least you get your chance this year to be rid of Biden.
Money comes from nothing! And it's mainly used to keep this sick & life ruining control & rule scam going, instead of becoming actually reasonable. Wish you could understand this or could have figured it out for yourself.
What are you referring to. What’s your context to this comment … or just on the “I hate Trudeau thing to do” that most seem to be at in their heads. Easy to bash him but most go on hear-say and not Facts. Saying same comments said millions of times before and think they are being clever. Even if there are some facts said. Hating someone’s a bit much he’s just a leader not a deity who’s suppose to be perfect. No one person is the right one to rule over everyone. It’s many people making decisions folks not one.
There’s not ever going to be one person for me to make all the big decisions. And will always come down to many having to come to a conclusion that makes sense. But I suppose if one needs a representative. But You can’t agree with everything one person will ever say and do. We are all different and people forget this.we say things different see things different and live life different. There’s laws in place for safe reasons and others all of which are to better us not control.. some controlling laws must be for real reasons. It’s considered when passing laws and or changing them as we learn more about one another this will also change laws and rules and regulations. We won’t ever live in some set way of life and must find some kind of common goals for our future to thrive. Everyone’s.
Get the Americans to say if Canada doesn't change the government. By 2025, they will no longer be allowed in the G7 and kick Canada out of the U. N. The world is fed-up with the Trudeau government. The conservatives with get us there, the Liberals will put Canada in danger. I hope all these Irresponsible voters from Toronto in 2015, are happy with what they've done to our country. Canada looks so different now with all the free loading immigrants, doesn't it.
TRUDEAU needs to be put in prison for life. That would give him time to think about how he has destroyed one of the best countries in the world, and the anger that hard working Canadians have towards him.
I hate it when the government decides what spending details the military will have. WTF do they know about it? All the government should be doing is setting the mandate for the military, such as...effectively protecting our vast coastline. Then it would be up to the military to create the plan and the material requirements to fulfill the mandate. Then the government provides the funding. We are so screwed as a country.
@westcoast_canuck1926. I saw a story on that a while back as well. Have to look into that further. We do know that they were operating law enforcement in our borders, that is well documented. Little potato admires their basic dictatorship so it doesn’t surprise me. Still waiting on those names of MP’s who are compromised.
The CAF has always had horrible people in it! Harmed people almost always harm people! And harmful people have & are harming people generation after generation! - so much so that the ugly truth escapes most people like you!
Better idea is to withdraw from NATO & properly use the 2 percent to fund the CAF. Canada need to withdraw from the gang promoting nuclear confrontation.
We've been under 2% since 1991. Mulroney started it during the last few years of his office. No government since then (Conservative or Liberal) has brought it up to 2%. You're being manipulated by people with an anti-Trudeau agenda.
Gee you sound like the orange turd from behind our southern border. No country pays anything to NATO. NATO member countries make a commitment to spend 2% of country’s GDP on their own defence.
As a country, most of us are too fat, dumb, and comfortable...and we vote Liberal because he has nice hair. Maybe we need some hardship to smarten us all up. We are getting what we deserve now from Trudeau.
I never voted for him I do not deserve the fallout from his idiotic policies. Do not make us pay for your stupidity in voting these clowns in. How about YOU deserve what YOU get. The rest of Canada can do without idiots that blindly vote for this party no matter what the cost for EVERYBODY
In Quebec it's more than that as we are taxed double from provincial and federal plus they tax our work which is why i work under the table i keep 100% of my work instead of giving up 50% to the government then the rest on housing etc when our hospitals and every other service gets worse and worse i will not give my money to that no thanks.
Point of clarity: The 67% gains tax means that 67% of the capital gain will be subject to tax rather than 50% of the gain. This is NOT a 67% tax on capital gains. To be clear, I think that taxing capital is idiotic, but I thought we should be clear on what is being taxed.
Trudeau just needs some time to figure out how to fleece Canadians out of more money without skipping a beat when it comes to giving Zelensky more money for a lost war.
@rickbaker8188. Richard, how ya doing buddy? Still getting whooped up on the comment section I see. Please, tell us all how it is bs? The numerous blocked investigations and violations are just a mirage, right Ricky? The fact that it is a matter of record that we are sending piles of cash to Ukraine while our servicing cost for our debt is far more than what we spend on healthcare is probably just me experiencing it differently, right Richard?
Canada is not pulling it's own weight for Canadians. Thx trudeau. If canada pays 40 million Canadians $100,000 per yr it will equal $4 billion. Foreign aid should be the last thing canada needs to worry about. We didn't ask for war or be taxes out the a$$ to support a inevitably losing battle..
LOL. I understand your point. There is enough money. The government just needs to stop using their ideological liberal math and spend money on what needs to happen rather than contracts to pointless endeavors, slimy lobbyists, pandering to special interest stuff etc etc etc.
You clearly fail to find fault in your inability to stop Justin & yourself from letting & causing this life ruining control & rule scam to continue, instead of practicing an actual reasonable way of life. But now that I point this out are you too harmed to tell this & too harmed to tell how harmed you are & why?
@@grandmufftwerkin9037 Too harmed & too corrupted to even speak even half decent I see. SMH To those who can understand... you are needed to stop the harming & worse of innocent & helpless children! We must agree on what actual reasonableness is & figure out a way to get at least most of the majority to choose actual reasonableness instead of perpetuating this life ruining way of life for enjoyment; yes? ______ @grandmufftwerkin9037 39 minutes ago @01mustang05 Engrish?
It's a good thing that Trudy didn't build a larger military, as he can't be trusted to deploy it responsibly. He'd use it against Canadians, his own people, as we witnessed first hand, during the Trucker's Freedom Protest. Secondly, I stand FIRMLY opposed to our funding of and participation in the current Ukraine war.
Trudeau called in the UN Security Special Operations Troops for help to stand against the Trucker Convoy and Canadian citizens protesting peacefully because he didn't trust his own military and police with their loyalties. They wore unmarked military uniforms and hid their identities behind reflective helmets and covered their faces with ski masks. They flew them over from France; the large unmarked military planes were parked at the North Bay Airport. People noticed their arrival and took pictures of them. The government explained their presence as being there for routine maintenance, despite no maintenance being done to any planes. The Special Forces were bussed into Ottawa to dismantle and destroy the Trucker Convoy & the Lockdown Protest. These troops were equipped with batons and rifles and given orders to use deadly force if necessary. They were brutal in their physical attacks on the protesters and independent media reporters who sympathized with the peaceful protesters. All of this ugly truth will be revealed once Trudeau leaves office and people feel freer to talk and reveal documentary evidence of how far Trudeau went against his own people to hold on to power.
@ianme5. Fair question, however, we certainly are in a far worse position now than we have been in the past in so many ways that can be linked to terrible policy.
Here is Trudeau once again bringing his clown show to the world stage. Look at me, look at me, it's all about me! Canda is going to buy subs in the very near future, albeit it be at Mr Submarine or Subway. Mr. Trudeau has a tough choice ahead of him, where do you want him to buy subs from? Chrystia prefers gluten free for Subway.
Canada needs to protect its vast northern territories with stronger naval bases. I’m not sure about this NATO commitment. Nobody is talking about the artic!
Canada's military needs to be treated as an industry not an expenditure ,from R&D to manufacturing and procurement to implantation .We used to do it before and quit sending everything to china and india for manufacturing that money is gone forever ,they don't even like us .
Canada needs to give an ultimatum to all the NATO countries. Pull back to the original boundries of the treaty, when it was started or Canada withdraws from the treaty. NATO is agitating for nuclear war. I also have talked to some employees of the Toronto Sun & they admitted that originally conceived the Sun as a journalistic rag.
You're so mean. Trudeau's a peace loving man and turning Canada into the best socialist Communist country in the World.(i am throwing up as i say this)
@@user-yf9in9hb3oAmericans have an addiction to wars that we shouldn't support. Let them fight and pay for them on their own. Maybe they won't be so trigger-happy.
We should totally increase the pay of anyone that has something to do with the military. And make it easier to join the military, so it’s a very well paying job, that you can get in decently easy so you can feed your family.
And what's up with collecting the tax money, and not spending enough to defend our premium water resources & temperal climate. We will find ourselves alone, if the US is preoccupied in existing theatres elsewhere.
Canada ended WWII as a world power, by the seventies the USSR jokingly called us the vicious rabbit. For decades we have ignored our NATO commitments and now our allies are moving ahead without us. We are shut out of the 5 eyes because our government is compromised by foreign powers, we weren’t invited to join AUKUS, we sit at the kids table at NATO… in short we have fallen from a world power to the jester in the court and jesters are easily replaced. As for the Ukraine? Time for peace talks and stop trying to find a way for them to join NATO, Russia will never accept this and the planet cannot afford an all out war between Russia and NATO. US foreign policy led to this mess and it’s time for the world to pressure the USA to stop taunting the bear.
NATO and lack of spending is not new. I’ve heard all the Presidents that Brian mentioned. Now more than any other time in our recent history, we need to spend the expected rate or we may be hard pressed to have the US and allies on our side.
why is the former secretary there considering that he is no longer in the role? why do they have someone who is not part of nato take the stage with all those leaders? and why isn't the current nato secretary on the stage with all of them? what is going on with those folks?
I have an interesting question to ask. If at all levels of government , federal , provincial , and municipal they were able to cut the amount of politicians in half at minimum , would we notice the lack of 50% of the politicians ? How much money would we save annually . What could we do with money . Answer one question at a time in order and you will get your answer. The private sector has been doing more with less for years . Perhaps it is time our government does the same
Former commander of the Canadian Army said, in a presentation at Laval University, that what is top of mind for the U.S. and European NATO allies, is security. He goes on to say that the Liberal government has remained tone deaf to our allies concerns. How soon before the U.S. exert increase economic pressure to show their displeasure? How much patience will our Allies have for highfalutin promises of capability that will not be operational for years yet to come? How long before they demand: Show me the signed contract and proof of a hefty upfront down payment on the acquisition of a new weapon system/capability, otherwise the economic pressure will not fully ease off?
This discussion is pointless. Until Canadians face an existential threat to their entitled lives they won't vote for a party that makes the required funding increases. It would require cuts to entitlements or tax increases. If the Conservatives go down this path they will lose the next election. Quebec, Ontario, the Maritimes, Winnipeg and parts of BC will not allow it.
Exactly! UN, NATO and W.E.F are all external lunacies we can do without. All of us will be giving up most of our paychecks just to be blown to smithereens or rot away in a nuclear winter. FUCK THAT!!!
NATO should not exist anymore as its purpose re the USSR was gone a long time ago, and now it simply promotes aggression. Imagine what Canada would be able to do with all the funds we put towards NATO and the wars if we used that money here.
@@alanjackson1015 Actually, it is. It was agreed that NATO was to disband after the collapse of the USSR, as that was its purpose. Instead it kept expanding.
Sadly, 😢the still photo of PM says it all? Why do we have to contribute to “it”MORE ‼️ How about we realize the pledge is silliness and go back to the drawing board. Then act like the “Peace Keeping” we were once known for ✨
Folks India and Russia have been cozy for some time , have you all ignored the existence and growing momentum of BRICS .,???.Some ,developing countries are looking for other alliances and alternatives to the " west:" anf USD for reasons far too externsive to list.,
Seems like all things canadian defer to a later date because of budget concerns then pay 100 times as much later on doing what needed to be dine all along😊
NATO lost credibility as soon as it started bombing Serbia. Add to it Libya, Yemen and Afghanistan and you see the trajectory.... One of Russia's strategic aims is the overhaul of European security architecture. Imagine what today would look like if Russia had been allowed to join NATO. They would be westward looking. Bringing India with them. China isolated.
Canada and Hungary looseing credibility in NATO. I think Canada has become a security risk to the alliance. The Europeans have stepped up knowing the true seriousness of Russian aggression. Nothing to do with carbon levels. Ludicrous.
it is not just the finanacing but our overall state of preparedness to deal with the changes that will be coming in the arctic in particular, I am pretty sure that we can't even defend our own turf let alone participate in a significant manner in coming to the aid of other NATO members in their hour of need whenever that might arise. Probably we need at least 5: of GDP put to defense for the next decade to get us up to speed, the irony of having had a world class army, navy, and airforce when a loyal colony of Great Britain in the world wars and now as an independent nation we are sitting on butts doing very little to address the freight train of troubles coming toward us, is absolutely galling.
Ah.....the Trudeau way! Lets all hold hands and sing Kum-ba-yah. We can and will do better! Appeal to the "better angels of our nature".....solves all the world's problems!
What do you mean? Are you being sarcastic, delusional, or what? Are you too harmed to tell or even reply like the majority of people? SMH Child abuses have to stop damn it!
You live in a dream world we are bring the enemies into our home Canada has to pull its weight on the world stage Like at home here in Canada we got way to many freeloaders
There is important issues everywhere due to the incompetence of government. This makes the military and nato a part of this equation. There is more going on than what concerns you personally.
How popular would ANY elected official be if spending automatically increases by 40 billion defence. Ask beloved Pierre if he would do this. What would be cut...
Like Harper before him, he would likely cut the over bloated bureaucracy in just about every government department. The federal public sector has been enlarged by between 30 % or 40 % since 2015 when Trudeau was first elected. There is NO reason for it BUT to build his ' voter support base' IN the 'government institutions'. 'Cuts, cuts, cuts !!! ' as Liberals call them - are NOT always bad things when the taxpayer gets some relief from the OVER taxing going on in this country, and a lot of it going to pay 'government employees'.....
Hey men you out there don't think that Trudeau speaks for us ,if canada is not pulling his weght that is because of bad management and that's Trudeau he thinks he is a president he is a minister he suppose to manage the financial of the country and representing our views wich he has failed miserably, we want money in nato ,we our defense (nuclear submarine) we need to be strong with our allies but this minister is just horrible.
when those ministers met in cornwal some years ago they all suggested that they would be removing their clothes to get naked. how come they have not delivered on this yet?